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ubptgbot<mateosalta> @dohbee [i don't think snaps exist for ARM yet, and maybe no "official" anbox image. alpi …], there were some back in the 'snappy' days00:33
ubptgbot<mateosalta> yep you can get the ubuntu core snaps00:35
ubptgbotA N was added by: A N00:35
ubptgbot<A N> Hey I was directed to this group when I tried to connect with someone on the Ubuntu phone website. I was hoping someone might be able to give me a bit of advice00:36
ubptgbot<A N> I’m looking for a really secure unhackable simple phone to replace this problematic iPhone I’m using00:37
ubptgbot<RealDanct12> "unhackable" is untrue00:37
ubptgbot<mateosalta> well "unhackable" is a high target00:37
ubptgbot<RealDanct12> nothing is unhackable, there'll always be exploits that hackers can take advantage of00:38
ubptgbot<mateosalta> you will have problems because all the phones bootloaders are unlocked00:38
ubptgbot<A N> But is there anything that you can’t hack just by having my phone number00:38
ubptgbot<A N> How do I protect myself then ugh I’m ready to do anything it takes00:38
ubptgbot<mateosalta> what kind of attack are you wanting to protect against?00:39
ubptgbot<mateosalta> are you talking about the attacks where they will take your phone number to get sms access to your account?00:40
ubptgbot<A N> Like just ppl who want to invade my privacy or record calls or just avoid being easy prey00:40
ubptgbot<A N> Like I know someone said iPhones are easy to hack all u need is the number but they also said all u need to do is reset it and it’s gone which prlly isn’t true lol00:41
ubptgbot<A N> I just want to be left alone00:41
ubptgbot<A N> Shouldn’t be so hard00:41
ubptgbot<A N> Also I do my banking online thru a phone so I need that to be safer00:42
ubptgbot<RealDanct12> a phone number hack could not compromise the entire phone00:42
ubptgbot<mateosalta> ubuntu touch is good at limiting background services, so if you are worried about apps doing certain things with, we do have an advantage in that area00:43
ubptgbot<A N> So how do I scan for it or get rid of it or anything00:43
ubptgbot<A N> I’m not so worried about the apps00:43
ubptgbot<A N> But that’s handy00:44
ubptgbot<mateosalta> after seeing what data facebook collects from its app ;P00:44
ubptgbot<A N> Ya I guess ppl could get to me thru there00:46
ubptgbot<A N> But if they have my number that’s pretty simple isn’t it00:46
ubptgbot<A N> I’m so lost in all this00:46
ubptgbot<A N> Everything I read says something different00:46
ubptgbot<A N> I’m tired of being violated00:46
ubptgbot<A N> I will pay to get help in this00:46
ubptgbot<A N> I don’t even care00:47
ubptgbot<mateosalta> I'm not sure what type of number attack you are talking about00:53
ubptgbot<mateosalta> oh, looked it up - seems that vulnerability is fixed, your firends may be misinformed and trying to scare you?01:01
ubptgbot<mateosalta> anyway some security steps to take on any device, including ubuntu touch01:07
ubptgbot<mateosalta> - always update … - don't install unknown things, only use app store - even then read all the permissions it can use (if you don't want to allow what it lists, don't install it)01:08
ubptgbot<mateosalta> -don't click on links in emails, texts, don't call numbers from emails or texts ( always consult official pages to get the official support number)01:09
ubptgbot<mateosalta> use a 2factor authentication app01:11
ubptgbot<RealDanct12> also dont punch your imei number to some page or whatever, it is used to get most of the details about you or preventing the baseband from working properly01:11
ubptgbot<dohbee> @mateosalta [there were some back in the 'snappy' days], I meant for anbox01:13
ubptgbot<mateosalta> @dohbee [I meant for anbox], yeah, the probally didn't make one for ubuntu core01:14
ubptgbot<mateosalta> althought that would be handy for a server box01:14
ubptgbot<mateosalta> @A N [I’m not so worried about the apps], that is mostly what worries me :) but anyway, the way I think if if you don't need it don't use it. you can't hack icloud photos you don't have - so if at all possible don't use any syncing, or storage, or online services, put the phone on airplane mode, or better off so you can't be hacked whi01:18
ubptgbotle out, or better I leave mine at home while at work ( no time to really use on breaks)01:18
ubptgbot<mateosalta> then I have diffrent phones for diffrent purposes - one that only has music loaded on it for the car ( no cell service, nothing else but music) one to do tv show stuff at home01:21
ubptgbot<mateosalta> the other for general calling01:21
ubptgbot<mateosalta> [Edit] and  another for general calling01:21
ubptgbot<mateosalta> and lastly never use facebook :)01:24
ubptgbot<RealDanct12> could've bought a tablet for tv show :P01:24
ubptgbot<mateosalta> ooo, yeah. that one will be coming once they make the pinetabs ;)01:24
ubptgbot<RealDanct12> :D01:25
ubptgbot<RealDanct12> pinetabs are great, i tell you01:25
ubptgbot<RealDanct12> i have an actual unit at home which if you want i can take pictures of it01:26
ubptgbot<mateosalta> that could be cool, I'm sure a lot of people here would like to see01:26
ubptgbot<Wolf> Hello, …      I installed Ubuntu os on my OnePlus one, but it is not connecting to wifi, is there any procedure to get wifi.02:11
ubptgbot<mateosalta> https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/issues/99502:12
gitbotubports issue 995 in ubuntu-touch "Oneplus one wifi switch after OTA6" [Bug, Device: Bacon, Open]02:12
ubptgbot<mateosalta> this may have info you can gather to see if you have the same bug02:13
ubptgbot<Wolf> Friend Thank you for the reply, may be it's a big.02:13
ubptgbot<Wolf> Bug*02:14
ubptgbot<mateosalta> the same happened to my opo02:14
ubptgbot<mateosalta> something about how it gets info from a partition, some versions didn't have that info02:14
ubptgbot<Wolf> Did U got fixed?02:14
ubptgbot<mateosalta> I haven't touched my opo in a long time :)02:15
ubptgbot<Wolf> Oh ok!02:15
ubptgbot<Wolf> Let me try if I can fix, any way thank you .02:16
ubptgbot<mateosalta> Oh, who is on the volla port - from here https://github.com/HelloVolla/ubuntu-touch-beta-tests/wiki/High-level-epic-overview-for-Ubuntu-Touch-port am i right in thinking you have some drivers for fm or nfc?02:27
ubptgbot<mateosalta> if so qt-master has example apps, I have had sucess compiling many of them to run02:29
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ubptgbot<Flohack> @Wolf [Hello, …      I installed Ubuntu os on my OnePlus one, but it is not connecting to …], As already someone posted you can try to create yourself a config file with a new MAC address. The instructions are under the above link I rhink05:39
ubptgbot<Wolf> Thanks! Florian, I am on it.06:02
ubptgbot<Flohack> @Wolf [Thanks! Florian, I am on it.], Unfortunately 2 flavors existed for the OPO it seems, while we fixed the issue for the one we broke wifi for the other lol06:04
ubptgbot<Wolf> May be.06:04
ubptgbot<Flohack> @Wolf [May be.], Well I know I did those repairs. The problem was that all OPO devices had the same MAC address. So people with 2 or more OPOs in the same house had huge troubles in using WiFi. I fixed that but then other OPO users complained about lost WiFi ;)06:35
ubptgbot<FJW_Schnettler> »  The problem was that all OPO devices had the same MAC address « … On my Sony X X too ... My first device has in 5GHz Wlan the same MAC-Adress how the second device on 2,4 GHz. … After an update and reboot, both device has the same adress. On their fist starts every day is this not, it's ok ... … 🤷🏻‍♂️08:28
ubptgbot<Flohack> @FJW_Schnettler [»  The problem was that all OPO devices had the same MAC address « … On my Sony X …], Well the same MAC for 5 and 2.4 should not matter, does it?09:12
ubptgbot<FJW_Schnettler> I don't now but I can tested it ... i had it seen in the router device ....09:18
ubptgbot<Flohack> @FJW_Schnettler [I don't now but I can tested it ... i had it seen in the router device ....], The WiFi card is the same why it should have 2 different MACs ?09:21
ubptgbot<FJW_Schnettler> @Flohack [The WiFi card is the same why it should have 2 different MACs ?], ❓ … Testing pass ... …  ... On my first Sony X X after the first boot in 5GHz are this MAC (not all codes..😎)  ::AF:33:7C:E0 and in 2,4GHz ::4C:11:22:33. … In a lot after boots most used the MAC ::4C:11:22:33 ❗️in all WLan Ghz ... … The second Sony X X had10:05
ubptgbot after the first boot in 5Ghz this MAC ::4C:11:22:33 the same on the frist Sony X X❗️and in 2,4 GHz ::EA:3E:D5:5D … Also here in a lot after boots most used the MAC ::4C:11:22:33 ❗️in all WLan Ghz ... … Sometimes also not in such a way ... 🤷🏻‍♂️ … I can seen it on the Router (FritzBox 7390) … I know its peculiarly, magic ...🙈 … If the MAC's are10:05
ubptgbotsame in the two devices and the WLan GHz others, both devices in Wlan good. 🤷🏻‍♂️ … Then I am confused very much...🤪10:05
ubptgbot<FJW_Schnettler> @Flohack [The WiFi card is the same why it should have 2 different MACs ?], [Edit] ❓ … Testing passed ... …  ... On my first Sony X X after the first boot in 5GHz are this MAC (not all codes..😎)  ::AF:33:7C:E0 and in 2,4GHz ::4C:11:22:33. … In a lot after boots most used the MAC ::4C:11:22:33 ❗️in all WLan Ghz ... … The second Son10:08
ubptgboty X X had after the first boot in 5Ghz this MAC ::4C:11:22:33 the same on the frist Sony X X❗️and in 2,4 GHz ::EA:3E:D5:5D … Also here in a lot after boots most used the MAC ::4C:11:22:33 ❗️in all WLan Ghz ... … Sometimes also not in such a way ... 🤷🏻‍♂️ … I can seen it on the Router (FritzBox 7390) … I know its peculiarly, magic ...🙈 … If the M10:08
ubptgbotAC's are same in the two devices and the WLan GHz others, both devices in Wlan good. 🤷🏻‍♂️ … Then I am confused very much...🤪10:08
ubptgbotUwe_Herczeg was added by: Uwe_Herczeg10:34
ubptgbot<NotKit> @mateosalta [if so qt-master has example apps, I have had sucess compiling many of them to ru …], interesting, thanks10:41
ubptgbot<NotKit> for NFC there is Sailfish middleware that can be packaged10:41
ubptgbot<ItsMeShouko> (Photo, 1080x2160) https://irc.ubports.com/7vpSaBOk.png11:29
ubptgbot<ItsMeShouko> Can regular ubports get volte as well now?11:30
ubptgbot<Flohack> @ItsMeShouko [Can regular ubports get volte as well now?], Sure if someone adds it ^^11:31
ubptgbot<ItsMeShouko> @Flohack [Sure if someone adds it ^^], *proceeds to spam erfan* jk lol11:32
ubptgbot<Flohack> @ItsMeShouko [*proceeds to spam erfan* jk lol], Ah you mean Android phones?11:32
ubptgbot<Flohack> Or Pinephone? Android = we must reverse engineer a lot of code, I dont think this will come early. But, if you are lucky your modem already does VoLTE by default. YOu wont notice it except better audio quality11:33
ubptgbot<ItsMeShouko> Basically, yes11:33
ubptgbot<Flohack> So then no ^^ This is on Pinephone, where things are open source ^^11:33
ubptgbot<ItsMeShouko> My modem does support volte, but I switched to other operator to get calls on sfos and ubports11:34
ubptgbot<ItsMeShouko> [Edit] My modem does support volte, but I switched to other operator (non volte only) to get calls on sfos and ubports11:35
ubptgbot<Flohack> So your operator does VoLTE only?11:49
ubptgbot<ItsMeShouko> Yes11:53
ubptgbot<Flohack> @ItsMeShouko [Yes], Thats a pity then. VoLTE is a proprietary technology and each vendor implements it a bit differently. So far nobody had the chance to analyze this and it will be superhard without source code11:59
ubptgbot<ItsMeShouko> @Flohack [Thats a pity then. VoLTE is a proprietary technology and each vendor implements …], I read somewhere that ofono supports (with a few changes) volte on mtk chipsets12:00
ubptgbot<Flohack> @ItsMeShouko [I read somewhere that ofono supports (with a few changes) volte on mtk chipsets], Find this please. I doubt it12:04
ubptgbot<ItsMeShouko> Okay will try searching12:04
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ubptgbot<ItsMeShouko> @Flohack [Find this please. I doubt it], I saw it a year back, someone was stating it in some issue in a github repo, can't find anymore, maybe the repo/issue got delted12:53
ubptgbot<ItsMeShouko> @Flohack [Find this please. I doubt it], [Edit] I saw it a year back, someone was stating it in some issue in a github repo, can't find anymore, maybe the repo/issue got deleted12:53
ubptgbot<Uchihaitachii> @ItsMeShouko [I saw it a year back, someone was stating it in some issue in a github repo, can …], Nice13:50
ubptgbot<TomasOqvist> Just managed to install UBports to a Oneplus 6, but it asks for a password which I never entered during the initial setup process. What can I do?14:16
ubptgbot<lduboeuf> is it 0000 ?14:20
ubptgbot<TomasOqvist> Nope14:20
ubptgbot<YougoChats> leave empty? Ubuntu? Phablet?14:21
ubptgbot<dohbee> probably `phablet`14:22
ubptgbot<mrcyjanek> @TomasOqvist [Just managed to install UBports to a Oneplus 6, but it asks for a password which …], phablet14:22
ubptgbot<dohbee> i think it's not a properly supported device yet and using GSI orsuch14:22
ubptgbot<mrcyjanek> @dohbee [i think it's not a properly supported device yet and using GSI orsuch], EY!14:22
ubptgbot<mrcyjanek> It is14:22
ubptgbot<TomasOqvist> @mrcyjanek [phablet], Bang, there it is! Thanks14:22
ubptgbot<mrcyjanek> I have built my own GSI for it14:22
ubptgbot<mrcyjanek> And it works14:23
ubptgbot<mrcyjanek> @TomasOqvist [Bang, there it is! Thanks], but keep sim in slot 214:23
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ubptgbot<TomasOqvist> Thanks, that works too ☺!15:13
ubptgbot<mrcyjanek> @TomasOqvist [Thanks, that works too ☺!], c:15:17
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ubptgbot<amyosx> What qt is used rn18:28
ubptgbot<dohbee> still 5.918:28
ubptgbot<amyosx> Ok18:28
ubptgbot<amyosx> I knew the update hadn't happened18:28
ubptgbot<amyosx> I just couldn't remember which version18:29
ubptgbot<mateosalta> I think they might have been working on the qtwebengine version18:29
ubptgbot<dohbee> qtwebengine is 5.14 in devel18:29
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> Does anyone know if Webber stores click files for the webapps it installs - and if so what folder these would be found in?  I want to make backups of the ones I have created so that I can save time if I want to have them on other devices or after a system reset and restore.19:00
ubptgbotFran was added by: Fran19:01
ubptgbot<dohbee> `find . -type d -name "*webber*"` ?19:01
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> @dohbee [find . -type d -name "*webber*" ?], Thanks - will try that. I've looked in my .local and .cache folders and hadn't found anything yet.19:02
ubptgbot<dohbee> it might delete the files after the content-hub sending is done19:02
ubptgbot<dohbee> but you can choose to "open" with file manager and just save it wherever, no?19:03
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ubptgbot<Fran> one question, is there specific documentation for the pinephone? because i see the oficial documentation does not apply19:30
ubptgbot<dohbee> what specifically doesn't apply?19:32
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ubptgbot<Sunaris> Hello, gys19:40
ubptgbot<Sunaris> I hardly, can see qhen im typing on ubuntu Touch . just install today.19:41
ubptgbot<Sunaris> i really like the phone. and ui.19:43
ubptgbot<Fran> @dohbee [what specifically doesn't apply?], how to connect using ssh? adb works with the pinephone?20:19
ubptgbot<PhoenixLandPirate> Adb doesn't work with the pinephone20:20
ubptgbot<dohbee> @Fran [how to connect using ssh? adb works with the pinephone?], adb doesn't work. you need to set up ssh. somehow you need to get your public key onto the phone and added to `~/.ssh/authorized_keys` (self-message, pastebin, or gitlab/github/launchpad ssh key pages are common ways to do this), and run `sudo start ssh` on the device; then y20:22
ubptgbotou can connect to ssh over wifi20:22
ubptgbot<dohbee> hopefully at some point in the future we can get adb working though20:22
ubptgbot<Fran> ok thanks for the info, this drives me to the next question how do i access to the phone using cable? i know how to do it with nexus5 but here i am lost.21:01
ubptgbot<dohbee> there is no user-friendly way at the moment. mtp and adb do not work yet on pinephone.21:06
ubptgbot<Fran> ook thanks!21:07
ubptgbotarthurabdulin was added by: arthurabdulin22:21
ubptgbot<arthurabdulin> Hello All, has anyone got issue with time zone synchronisation from Next Cloud Calendar? It appears Next Cloud events show +1 in Ubuntu Touch Calendar.22:22
ubptgbot<bettehem> @dohbee [adb doesn't work. you need to set up ssh. somehow you need to get your public ke …], Just use scp to copy ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub from your pc to your phone and add it's contents to ~/.ssh/authorized_keys22:30
ubptgbot<dohbee> @bettehem [Just use scp to copy ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub from your pc to your phone and add it's c …], you can't do that of course when the key isn't already added22:31
ubptgbot<dohbee> password auth is not supported22:31
ubptgbot<bettehem> Yes you can. Use scp on the phone to copy the key from the pc22:32
ubptgbot<dohbee> ok, maybe sure; the point is you need some other way than connecting to the phone from the PC, to do it22:32
ubptgbot<bettehem> Yes, but what I'm saying is that scp is far more straight forward than having to first upload the key somewhere from the pc and then go download it on the mobile device. … With scp you can do it with one command22:36
ubptgbot<bettehem> @dohbee [ok, maybe sure; the point is you need some other way than connecting to the phon …], You shouldn't connect to the phone from the pc, you should connect from the phone to the pc. I never said that the point was somewhere else. I just gave a better suggestion on how to go about copying the key over22:47
ubptgbot<dohbee> @bettehem [You shouldn't connect to the phone from the pc, you should connect from the phon …], why are you trying to argue with me. the wording you originally replied to me with suggested something else. i am not trying to bloody argue with you so chill22:49
ubptgbot<bettehem> Im not either. Sorry if the wording wasn't clear enough. What I meant was to use scp(on the phone) to copy the file from the pc to the phone22:52
ubptgbot<bettehem> @dohbee sorry, not trying to argue.22:55

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