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ubptgbotalikarakoc was added by: alikarakoc00:08
ubptgbot<Elias> How to make a screenshot with a fairphone 2 under ubports?00:13
ubptgbot<Elias> I found these two volume keys ^^00:16
ubptgbotlomalkin was added by: lomalkin00:23
ubptgbotrbetzen was added by: rbetzen01:05
ubptgbot<RealDanct12> @Elias [I found these two volume keys ^^], press both of them at the same time?01:33
bqvDo any of you use ubuntu touch as your daily?03:00
ubptgbot<PhoenixLandPirate> yes.03:01
bqvWhats the biggest downside?03:13
bqvAnd are you at all a special case?03:13
bqvI'm considering it…03:14
ubptgbot<dohbee> @bqv [Whats the biggest downside?], none of the "big" apps are available03:16
bqvYou don't use anbox?03:16
ubptgbot<PhoenixLandPirate> I second Rodney, App selection can make some things difficult03:16
bqvI wouldn't even be considering it without anbox03:17
ubptgbot<dohbee> anbox isn't the same as running android natively on a phone03:35
bqvBut you can run the apps03:43
bqvWhat else |atters03:43
ubptgbothacker1024 was added by: hacker102404:49
ubptgbotGordon was added by: Gordon04:53
ubptgbot<Fran> @bettehem [Im not either. Sorry if the wording wasn't clear enough. What I meant was to use …], ok thanks for the suggestion i will try that05:22
ubptgbot<Danfro> @arthurabdulin [Hello All, has anyone got issue with time zone synchronisation from Next Cloud C …], Seems to be fine here. Syncing with Evolution on Desktop.05:37
ubptgbot<Venji10> @mateosalta [Oh, who is on the volla port - from here https://github.com/HelloVolla/ubuntu-to …], I think I saw a compatible of a radio driver in arch/arm64/boot/dts/mediatek/mt6763.dtsi05:54
ubptgbot<bettehem> @Fran [ok thanks for the suggestion i will try that], Cool06:47
ubptgbot<Flohack> @bqv [But you can run the apps], Well not really, Anbox is an alpha-grade container and many apps dont work07:13
bqv:/07:20
ubptgbot<Allusernamesaretaken2> I searched in the group history it is said that pinephone doesn't have hotspot feature by default. Does anybody know if there has been any change about this? Or is this feature in the queue?07:20
ubptgbot<RedXXIII> (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/TdTxSrQJ.odt08:14
ubptgbotjedi2light was added by: jedi2light08:42
ubptgbot<jedi2light> How can I push some files into clickable docker container before  app starts?08:42
ubptgbot<rs2009> (Photo, 614x201) https://irc.ubports.com/GJ0gAj34.png The spelling of Ubuntu is wrong on ubuntu-touch.io08:56
ubptgbot<Flohack> @rs2009 [<reply to media>], LOL WTF!!!08:56
ubptgbot<rs2009> 😊08:57
ubptgbot<rs2009> :)08:57
ubptgbot<Flohack> Forwarded to Website team thx08:58
ubptgbot<Flohack> Fwd from randycharleston: Hi Florian, spelling is fixed09:01
ubptgbot<Flohack> @rs2009 [:)], ^^09:01
ubptgbot<Flohack> Reload page probably due to CLoudflare caching09:01
ubptgbot<rs2009> (Photo, 77x37) https://irc.ubports.com/0UhU0NvL.png Still doesn't work. 😞 Also, I noticed that the default Odoo favicon was being used on ubuntu-touch.io09:04
ubptgbot<rs2009> (Photo, 77x37) https://irc.ubports.com/HjwataEo.png Still doesn't work. 😞 Also, I noticed that the default Odoo favicon is being used on ubuntu-touch.io09:05
ubptgbot<rs2009> @rs2009 [<reply to media>], @Flohack It's alright now, although the favicon is still the default Odoo one (on ubuntu-touch.io)09:08
ubptgbot<Lorxu> Nah that's just Obonto Touch09:09
ubptgbot<Flohack> @rs2009 [@Flohack It's alright now, although the favicon is still the default Odoo one (o …], And this is also fixed now09:54
ubptgbot<jedi2light> @rs2009 [<reply to media>], Секд ыршае к09:54
ubptgbot<jedi2light> @rs2009 [<reply to media>], [Edit] Ctrl shift r09:54
ubptgbotPeter was added by: Peter10:33
ubptgbotSir_Goose_1 was added by: Sir_Goose_110:43
ubptgbot<arthurabdulin> @Danfro [Seems to be fine here. Syncing with Evolution on Desktop.], Thanks for your reply!10:52
ubptgbotAlex was added by: Alex11:06
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @bettehem [Im not either. Sorry if the wording wasn't clear enough. What I meant was to use …], i think we should add this to the documentation scp using scp to pull the key from the pc to the phone rather than push from the phone to the pc. hmm not too straightforward tho11:50
ubptgbotiammosab was added by: iammosab12:39
ubptgbot<Fran> please that would be helpful12:40
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @Fran [please that would be helpful], Did you manage to enable ssh?13:56
ubptgbot<Fran> didn’t try yet maybe later tonight13:57
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> feel free to ask when you're stuck14:02
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> the current suggestion is to transfer you're ssh public key by running `scp pcuser@pcip:/path/to/public/key ,` on the phone14:03
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> notice the dot is used to copy it to the homedirectory or whatever folder you are in14:03
ubptgbotRenataPuspitaDewi was added by: RenataPuspitaDewi15:33
ubptgbot<TartanSpartan> Is there anything like a forum post or Telegram group for a community project to port Firefox for Android to Ubuntu Touch?16:40
ubptgbot<TartanSpartan> By which I mean a native mobile port, not the desktop version within Libertine.16:40
ubptgbot<dohbee> @Fuseteam [notice the dot is used to copy it to the homedirectory or whatever folder you ar …], you typed a comma though :P16:43
ubptgbot<dohbee> @TartanSpartan [Is there anything like a forum post or Telegram group for a community project to …], no, and not really doable as it's a java app there16:43
ubptgbot<TartanSpartan> What would be a better approach to port it? Use desktop source?16:50
ubptgbot<dohbee> just having firefox be responsive and touch friendly i guess16:52
ubptgbot<dohbee> at least once UT is all wayland everywhere16:52
ubptgbot<Javacookies> I would think with the pinephone and firefox being the most common browser used in different distros on it, they might put some effort to make the UI responsive16:59
ubptgbot<TartanSpartan> But I'm saying you'd be better off adapting desktop FF to be responsive and touch friendly on mobile rather than porting it from Android, right?17:01
ubptgbot<dohbee> yes17:01
ubptgbot<TartanSpartan> Gotcha.17:02
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @dohbee [you typed a comma though :P], dang it 😂17:47
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> [Edit] the current suggestion is to transfer you're ssh public key by running `scp pcuser@pcip:/path/to/public/key .` on the phone17:48
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> wouldn't a firefox package also require gtk anyway?17:49
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> i would assume it would require gtk to be shipped with firefox on ut17:50
ubptgbot<TacoBarz> Konqueror, min browser and falkon are web browsers that use qt, aren't them?18:40
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> sure?18:40
ubptgbot<TacoBarz> yes18:40
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> why do you ask?18:40
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> [Edit] why do you ask that here?18:41
ubptgbot<TacoBarz> instead of using firefox, that uses gtk, broswsers that use qt aren't better to run under ut?18:41
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> ah good question18:41
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> but those browsers are likely still using X18:42
ubptgbot<TacoBarz> I'm not quite sure, maybe they could give a surprise18:42
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> ut uses mir and mir is being migrated to wayland18:42
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> i mean sure we can try ofcourse18:42
ubptgbot<dohbee> well morph uses qtwebengine already18:43
ubptgbot<dohbee> just like falkon18:43
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> ohw falkon uses qtwebengine18:44
ubptgbot<TacoBarz> konqueror use Wayland-EGL to plays videos and html5, it's what rek2gnulinux commented in this post: https://www.reddit.com/r/wayland/comments/834dix/wayland_native_browsers/18:56
ubptgbot<TacoBarz> it's from 2 years ago18:57
ubptgbot<TacoBarz> maybe morph is the mobile version of falkon and konqueror18:57
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> wow "the firefox port is dead as is chromium"18:57
ubptgbot<TacoBarz> is what they posted time ago18:58
ubptgbot<TacoBarz> haha18:58
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> well morph actually morph to be usable on desktop aswell tbf18:58
ubptgbot<Pascal> Does anyone know the reason why we have almost have two updates per day on Xperia X (suzu) ? I’m simply curious about that.18:58
ubptgbot<Pascal> [Edit] Does anyone know the reason why we almost have two updates per day on Xperia X (suzu) ? I’m simply curious about that.18:59
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> because the suzu is in active development18:59
ubptgbot<Pascal> @Fuseteam [because the suzu is in active development], It’s very regular.18:59
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> and you are likely on the development channel, probably because there is no stable channel yet18:59
ubptgbot<Pascal> @Fuseteam [and you are likely on the development channel, probably because there is no stab …], Yes, it is.19:00
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @Pascal [It’s very regular.], yes because there are automated builds whenever something is updated19:00
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @Pascal [Yes, it is.], the frequent updates is actually a characteristic of the development channel, it should slow down by the time we hit feature freeze19:01
ubptgbot<Pascal> I wanted to be sure of the automated build. Thanks !19:01
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> sure19:02
ubptgbot<Flohack> @Pascal [Does anyone know the reason why we almost have two updates per day on Xperia X ( …], 2 updates could also be a CI failure resulting in 2 identical builds, I will investigate19:09
ubptgbot<livrecinq> @Flohack [2 updates could also be a CI failure resulting in 2 identical builds, I will inv …], I noticed that mostly the 2 updates don’t have the same sizes to download.19:12
ubptgbot<Fran> @Fuseteam [the current suggestion is to transfer you're ssh public key by running scp pcuse …], ok i did it thanks, next point i see in the documentation is sudo android-gadget-service enable ssh to enable ssh server but this doesn’t work on the pinephone right?19:17
ubptgbot<Danfro> @Flohack [2 updates could also be a CI failure resulting in 2 identical builds, I will inv …], One regular update is always the same size 77.1 MB. I guess that is the auto build one. The other one does not happen every day and is a few MB only, that I suppose to hold some actual new merged PR's.19:17
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @Fran [ok i did it thanks, next point i see in the documentation is sudo android-gadget …], indeed i think a simple sudo service ssh start should work?19:24
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> not sure if i got the syntax right19:25
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> ah no tis `sudo start ssh`19:25
ubptgbot<livrecinq> @Danfro [One regular update is always the same size 77.1 MB. I guess that is the auto bui …], It’s what i understood. Thanks19:26
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @Danfro [One regular update is always the same size 77.1 MB. I guess that is the auto bui …], eh? i though there would be no update is there's no change 👀19:28
ubptgbot<Danfro> @Fuseteam [eh? i though there would be no update is there's no change 👀], I am not the pro. Just doing educated guesswork. 😁 There was a period of a very few days without the 77.1 MB around release of OTA 12. But otherwise they are there every day.19:29
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @Danfro [I am not the pro. Just doing educated guesswork. 😁 There was a period of a very …], you're am educated guesswork pro tho :P19:31
ubptgbot<Danfro> (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/Dy05SkMa.webp19:31
ubptgbot<Danfro> Whatever works. 😁19:32
ubptgbot<Fran> @Fuseteam [ah no tis sudo start ssh], super thanks! i connected, again i think it could be useful to have this explained somewhere for noobs like me19:34
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> sure sounds like we need to one extra general command and one pinephone specific command in the docs19:35
ubptgbot<dohbee> we need to fix "developer mode" to be a more robust thing19:36
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> it isn't "robust"?19:38
ubptgbot<dohbee> well it doesn't "exist" on pinephone because the way it's built is only for enabling adb19:38
ubptgbot<dohbee> it should be more like developer options on android so we can toggle individual developer options, like adb, ssh, adb on wifi, etc…19:39
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> ah interesting19:39
ubptgbotKarstenDietrich was added by: KarstenDietrich20:30
ubptgbot<Fran> how unstable is devel with the pinephone? is that bad?21:01
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> depends on what you mean with "stable" 😂21:05
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> jokes aside devel almost never breaks in my experience and you fixes faster than other channels21:06
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> [Edit] jokes aside devel almost never breaks in my experience and you get fixes faster than other channels21:06
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> edge on the other hand there be dragons21:06
ubptgbot<Fran> haha ok then i will try devel thanks21:09
ubptgbot<mateosalta> @Fran [haha ok then i will try devel thanks], strange things happening with the browser on dev on pinephone22:06

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