[04:52] <didrocks> good morning
[05:47] <callmepk> morning didrocks 
[05:50] <jamesh> hi didrocks, callmepk 
[05:50] <callmepk> hi jamesh 
[05:53] <duflu> Hi didrocks, callmepk, jamesh 
[05:54] <duflu> Surprisingly busy at Scarborough today, jamesh
[05:54] <duflu> (just did lunch)
[06:19] <didrocks> hey duflu, callmepk, jamesh 
[06:22] <oSoMoN> good morning desktoppers
[06:24] <duflu> Hi oSoMoN 
[06:24] <callmepk> hi duflu oSoMoN 
[06:34] <didrocks> salut oSoMoN 
[08:03] <Laney> hey
[08:04] <duflu> Morning Laney and seb128 
[08:05] <didrocks> hey Laney 
[08:06] <Laney> duflu: I hope the herbs were in abundance
[08:06] <Laney> & moin & moin didrocks 
[08:06] <Laney> today you got tab completed properly
[08:06] <seb128> goood morning desktopers!
[08:06] <seb128> hey duflu, how are you?
[08:06] <Laney> hey seb128 
[08:06] <seb128> hey Laney, wie gehts?
[08:06] <duflu> Laney?!
[08:07] <duflu> I'm well seb128, you?
[08:07] <Laney> nicht schlecht
[08:07] <seb128> I'm great, had an uninterrupted night and I feel less tried as a result!
[08:07] <duflu> gut
[08:08] <Laney> duflu: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ccgk8PXz64
[08:09] <duflu> Righto. Though there was one guy who looked worryingly too high to cross the road safely
[08:09] <Laney> Not the right kind of herb
[08:09] <duflu> At least he was dancing. Entertaining
[08:09]  * Laney shakes head
[08:11] <didrocks> Laney: proper tab completion FTW!
[08:27] <Laney> UPDATE MANAGERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
[08:27] <didrocks> …R?
[08:27] <didrocks> (I felt one was missing)
[08:27] <Laney> ah yes you're right
[08:27] <Laney> UPDATE MANAGERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
[08:28] <Laney> it's always fun when you get to work on that
[08:28]  * Laney looks at marcustomlinson for agreement
[08:29] <marcustomlinson> nods
[08:30] <didrocks> I felt do-release-upgrade was ok, unsure of update-manager, hasn’t touched it for a long time (if ever?)
[08:30] <Laney> slight element of sarcasm
[08:30] <Laney> ask me in a week how much :>
[08:31] <didrocks> lucky you, you will be able to compare!
[08:35] <seb128> Laney, I'm sure it's nothing compared to britney *g*
[08:40] <seb128> Laney, speaking of britney, did you see the foundation's channel comment about the csv having 0 (I guess they were speaking about the backlog value?)
[08:41] <seb128> just mentioning it in case it's something interesting, feel free to ignore me if it's not
[08:42] <Laney> what csv?
[08:42] <Laney> no I didn't
[08:44] <seb128> Laney, https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.csv
[08:45] <Laney> k
[08:47] <Laney> I dunno who's doing what with it, guess they can contact me if they have specifics
[08:47] <seb128> right, makes sense
[10:13] <seb128> tseliot, hey, do you know why https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-418-server was building on ppc and isn't anymore? it's not described in the changelog but blocking migration
[10:14] <tseliot> seb128, we don't have the hardware to do the testing on, so we dropped it
[10:15] <seb128> tseliot, oh, I see there was a 0ubuntu1 where it's documented, thx
[10:15] <tseliot> np
[11:07] <Laney> Trevinho: frederikf[m][m]: https://people.canonical.com/~laney/weird-things/checkbox.png got an opinion on whether this is a yaru bug or an update-manager one (e.g. should allocate more space for the checkbox)?
[11:08] <Trevinho> Laney: looks like more a gtk / u-m one to me
[11:08] <Laney> ok
[11:08] <Laney> it's the same with adwaita too
[11:08] <Laney> will see about fixing it with this update
[11:09] <Trevinho> is it using a tree model?
[11:09] <Laney> dunno
[11:09] <Laney> probably
[11:20] <marcustomlinson> Laney: what changes are you working on in u-m by the way?
[11:20] <Laney> display if there's an oem support package to install, and do the installation
[11:21] <marcustomlinson> ah ok
[11:21] <marcustomlinson> jolly good show
[11:21]  * marcustomlinson runs away
[11:23] <Laney> I think that update-notifier should be running "ubuntu-drivers list-oem --package-list /run/ubuntu-drivers-oem.autoinstall" from time to time and spawning update-manager based on that
[11:23] <Laney> don't really want to run that in process, it is kinda slow
[11:32] <Laney> systemd timer unit
[11:32] <Laney> SOUNDS GRRRREAAAATTTTT
[11:40] <didrocks> I heard some great projects are using them :)
[12:11] <luna_> GUADEC has started now btw 
[12:11] <luna_> afternoon
[12:19] <Trevinho> yeah, in more or less two hours will open 
[13:07] <luna_> Trevinho: yeah the test stream starts in 10 minutes
[13:37] <oSoMoN> ricotz, FYI https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/firefox/firefox.groovy/revision/1414
[13:38] <oSoMoN> I smoke-tested it and it looks alright, but feedback welcome, and if it appears to be fine I will apply to all release branches and merge back to beta branches
[13:50] <ricotz> oSoMoN, great, ack
[14:45] <Trevinho> Laney: since you're in update-manager lands, I've noticed in the GNOME session it shows the debian icon as "Ubuntu base" updates icon
[14:45] <Trevinho> Laney: I expect because it's using XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP instead of os-realease?
[15:12] <Laney> Trevinho: It's a GThemedIcon "distributor-logo"
[15:13] <Trevinho> Laney: mh, I see... well I noticed before I got it as debian logo in a virtual machine where I had GNOME session running
[15:13] <Laney> I dunno how that works
[15:13] <Laney> maybe that is influenced by the current desktop
[15:13] <Laney> or XDG_DATA_DIRS or something
[16:21] <Laney> fml
[16:21] <Laney> if you're checking for gnome-terminal being installed in a script
[16:21] <Laney> don't run the script in a chroot