[00:23] <lamiastella> I am trying to download a 40GB file from DropBox but it keeps getting interrupted (perhaps bad wifi connection). Any tips on how I could have an uninterrupted or resuming type download via the command line?
[00:28] <sarnold> lamiastella: curl -C -   I believe will do that; I think wget --mirror will turn on something similar, but I'm not spotting what that would be in the manpage :/ it might be my memory is poor
[00:29] <sarnold> lamiastella: does dropbox offer rsync support? either rsync directly or rsync via ssh? rsync is fantastic at this kind of thing
[00:29] <sarnold> lamiastella: did you get your cuda packages sorted?
[00:29] <lamiastella> idk that's why I am asking here sarnold
[00:30] <lamiastella> actually cannot remember completely followed a bunch of tutorials online
[00:30] <lamiastella> it says it takes 4 hrs to download 40GB :/
[00:32] <sarnold> ~2.8 MB/s, I wonder where the bottleneck is. my guess is that's just as fast as they're willing to go, since going faster costs more money..
[00:32] <lamiastella> now it is 1.6 and says 6hrs sarnold
[00:33] <lamiastella> my download speed is 19.1 MBPS
[00:33] <lamiastella> and upload is 9.53MBPS
[00:33] <lamiastella> though I have two roommates :/
[00:37] <lamiastella> cannot download via wget from dropbox using ?dl=1 2020-07-21 20:36:22 ERROR 400: Bad Request.
[00:37] <sarnold> :(
[00:39] <leftyfb> lamiastella: your issue is with dropbox. Not ubuntu. Try wiping ~/.dropbox and see if that helps. Otherwise, contact dropbox support. The downloads speeds are also a limitation of dropbox
[00:41] <lamiastella> IDK dropbox installed in my machine I am downloading via direct link in firefox leftyfb
[00:42] <lamiastella> I don't have * instead of IDK leftyfb
[00:43] <lamiastella> sarnold: here is a bug report if you are interested https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-cuda-toolkit/+bug/1888440
[00:45] <leftyfb> lamiastella: can I ask what you are downloading that is 40G?
[00:58] <lamiastella> it is a video file with .ats format (private file in our group)
[01:35] <bet0x> Hello everyone
[01:37] <bet0x> I have a HD screen (1920) and a 4K screen (3840) and i cannot do scaling coz it gets all weird
[01:42] <Bashing-om> bet0x: Can not vouch; but, have you seen: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/HiDPI#Fractional_Scaling ?
[01:42] <bet0x> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mutter/+bug/1884754/comments/15
[01:43] <bet0x> mmmmmmm
[01:43] <bet0x> Found it
[02:00] <bet0x> Well i don't think it will work
[02:00] <bet0x> Resolution: 9984x3456
[02:00] <bet0x> lol
[02:18] <cluelessperson> My laptop likes to drop from 1.5ghz to 700mhz, which is completely intolerable
[02:18] <cluelessperson> how do I stop this insanity?
[02:20] <quadrathoch2> why wouldn't you like to save power (battery)? cluelessperson
[02:20] <cluelessperson> quadrathoch2, Because I'm on AC power
[02:20] <Kill-Animals> does the file name effect the value of a md5sum? I am trying to evaluate my iso
[02:21] <cluelessperson> Kill-Animals, no.
[02:21] <Kill-Animals> cluelessperson: thanks
[02:21] <cluelessperson> Kill-Animals, also md5 is broken, I suggest SHA256
[02:22] <Kill-Animals> cluelessperson: why is it broken?
[02:22] <sarnold> cluelessperson: check cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpufreq/policy*/scaling_governor  -- if tht's powersave, try changing all those to performance
[02:22] <Kill-Animals> there is also keccak https://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qcryptographichash.html#Algorithm-enum
[02:23] <cluelessperson> sarnold, a month ago I was trying out different software to control this and found it was all generally not very effective, but I'll try setting all these manually.
[02:23] <cluelessperson> sarnold, they are all powersave
[02:24] <cluelessperson> Kill-Animals, md5 is easy to produce collisions for, so it's not useful for security any longer.
[02:24] <sarnold> cluelessperson: I think the two that aren't garbage are powersave and performance; and performance sounds more like what you want
[02:24] <Kill-Animals> got it.
[02:24] <sarnold> md5 is still okay for "I used scp to copy this file from one machine to another machine". but sha256sum is installed everywhere these days, so it's easy enough to switch
[02:25] <cluelessperson> sarnold, I set them all.
[02:26] <Kill-Animals> sarnold: and what about https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SHA-3 ?
[02:26] <sarnold> cluelessperson: alright, now see if your sysmte is more responsive to changes in load
[02:26] <quadrathoch2> as the cpu is controlling the speed of the cpu, there is nothing you can really do about it
[02:26] <cluelessperson> sarnold, seems to be. :D
[02:26] <cluelessperson> sarnold, why is it powersave by default?
[02:26] <cluelessperson> also, is there non crap software for managing this?
[02:27] <cluelessperson> all the software I've tried, like ubuntu cpufreqd is annoying.
[02:27] <cluelessperson> (and I'm not sure they even work)
[02:28] <quadrathoch2> as this is hw controlled (firmware) you can't really do anything about it. live with it
[02:29] <sarnold> cluelessperson: probably a systemd-tmpfiles.d snippet would be my first choice
[02:29] <sarnold> cluelessperson: all the applets and similar things I've seen for this are crap
[02:29] <sarnold> cluelessperson: hmm, there's a gamemode application that does a bunch of things, I wonder if you'd like it or hate it :) heh
[02:30] <sarnold> Kill-Animals: iirc sha-3 is usually slower than sha-2, so I don't think sha-3 will be anyone's first choice algorithm for a while
[02:30] <sarnold> unfortunately openssl speed command is beyond stupid and I can't figure out how to get it to benchmark sha3 for me
[02:30] <Kill-Animals> sarnold: that is a good answer. I just need a fingerprint, but I need it to be performant.
[02:31] <sarnold> Kill-Animals: depending upon your goals you may also like blake2b or blake2-something else. (I hate that there are multiple blake2* algorithms, I think this is part of why so few programs use it)
[02:38] <cluelessperson> sarnold, I'm willing to check it out
[02:39] <cluelessperson> sarnold, I've been playing hollow knight and it basically just costs me button presses.
[02:39] <cluelessperson> The frustration  makes me want to chuck things.
[02:39] <cluelessperson> sarnold, right now snapping to edges just stopped working for no reason I can tell
[02:40] <cluelessperson> and the on screen keyboard just randomly stops responding and crashes
[02:40] <cluelessperson> why are these softwares even included if they're unstable?
[02:41] <cluelessperson> Kill-Animals, almost all CPUs have a SHA256 module built in
[02:41] <cluelessperson> so it should be in general insanely fast
[02:43] <sarnold> cluelessperson: no idea on the desktop stuff -- if you're using gnome, maybe uninstall any extensions you may have installed, I understand those are often a source of reliability problems
[02:45] <cluelessperson> sarnold, I don't think I have any extensions up, at least not abnormal ones.
[02:45] <cluelessperson> ubuntu dock and app indicators.
[02:46] <cluelessperson> sarnold, The thing that truly truly frustrates me, is that these things are just built *into* gnome and you can't troubleshoot them as far as I know
[02:46] <cluelessperson> there's no module for me to uninstall, disable, tweak
[02:46] <cluelessperson> ---
[02:47] <cluelessperson> sarnold, there are other concerning things too.  You know the feature to "Press Control to create an animation that highlights the pointer" ?
[02:47] <cluelessperson> At 120hz refresh rate, the animation is sped up.
[02:47] <cluelessperson> sarnold, Which informs me the software plays some animation frame by frame, rather than understanding that different displays work at different framerates.
[02:48] <sarnold> cluelessperson: lol that's hilarious
[02:48] <sarnold> I mean it's frustrating
[02:48] <sarnold> but it reminds me of the day when we had to hit the turbo button to downclock our 486es because games were written for 286...
[02:49] <oerheks> there is a block caribou solution, ​https://sourceforge.net/p/ourorgan/discussion/962125/thread/bf6288066d/?limit=25
[02:49] <oerheks> and https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/1326/block-caribou/
[02:49] <cluelessperson> sarnold, I mean that, someone included it as a basic feature in ubuntu, apparently without understanding how displays even work.
[02:50] <cluelessperson> That bothers me.
[02:50] <cluelessperson> oerheks, that doesn't work.
[02:50] <cluelessperson> oerheks, Rather, it partially works, and when it fails, it gets stuck open.
[02:50] <cluelessperson> like wtf
[03:09] <TimothyP> Hi, what's currently a good way to create a portable Ubuntu on a USB stick. I have a demo I need to run on Ubuntu but I might not have access to a Ubuntu system where I am going
[03:18] <sarnold> TimothyP: I think I've heard if you write the live image to one partition on a usb stick, and make an ext4 filesystem on a second partition, you'll be able to use that second partition pretty easy
[03:18] <sarnold> TimothyP: hopefully it's only a few minutes to test it out, assuming you've already got the usb stick you want to overwrite
[03:19] <TimothyP> ok that makes sense
[03:19] <TimothyP> thnx !
[03:19] <TimothyP> will give it a try
[03:23] <sarnold> TimothyP: I think I've seen screenshots that suggest the rufus.ie tool can do this, but that requires a windows system :) if you've got one of those around, it might be even faster than goofing around with gdisk or fdisk or cfdisk or whatever it is that's the best fdisk thse days :)
[03:23] <sarnold> time for me to run, have fun :)
[03:23] <oerheks> mkusb too..
[03:24] <oerheks> https://www.linuxuprising.com/2019/03/create-persistent-storage-live-usb-with.html
[03:24] <sarnold> with what? with WHAT? cmon slug tll us!
[03:24] <TimothyP> let's see
[04:45] <satousan> anyone here ever try ubuntu touch?
[04:45] <satousan> is it any good, is it even really ubuntu?
[05:20] <oerheks> kernelupdate
[05:25] <lotuspsychje> oerheks: updating
[05:28] <M_aD> already updated
[07:54] <me-1> hi..I am looking for Ubuntu 32 bit for an old Pc
[07:55] <CrackedCracker> hello! upgraded to 20.04 yesterday and now there's a mismatch between biber and biblatex versions
[07:56] <CrackedCracker> namely, it says: ERROR - Error: Found biblatex control file version 3.4, expected version 3.7. This means that your biber (2.14) and biblatex (3.10) versions are incompatible.
[07:57] <CrackedCracker> which is surprising since both come from the biber package?
[07:57] <CrackedCracker> is it really broken or did I just screw up something locally?
[07:59] <TimothyP> sarnold mkusb worked great
[08:01] <me-1> does Ubuntu still supports 32 bit architecture
[08:05] <oerheks> 18.04 is 32 bits supported, AFAIK
[08:06] <CrackedCracker> still with the same question: or how do I check biblatex version in the packages to verify that the problem is indeed there?
[08:06] <oerheks> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/netboot/18.04/
[08:07] <oerheks> biblatex ? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/biblatex
[08:07] <oerheks> old ..
[08:09] <CrackedCracker> I think it comes from https://packages.ubuntu.com/focal/texlive-bibtex-extra, but it doesn't tell me the version
[08:10] <DeathandGravity> I'm having some issues getting nvidia drivers functional on my 20.04 LTS. On running nvidia-settings I'm getting error pings that the Driver is not loaded but prime select indicates Nvidia is loaded and I seem to have the full dependancies requisit for 440 as well as
[08:10] <DeathandGravity> I'm also getting this as output when I run nvidia-settings :
[08:10] <DeathandGravity> (nvidia-settings:1791): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: 01:18:05.602: g_object_unref: assertion 'G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed
[08:10] <DeathandGravity> Anyone able to assist?
[08:10] <oerheks> https://packages.ubuntu.com/source/focal/texlive-extra (2019.202000218-1) [universe]
[08:12] <CrackedCracker> oerheks: yep, found that one, but version there doesn't really correspond to anything? biber is complaining that biblatex is 3.4 and I can't find that number anywhere there
[08:14] <CrackedCracker> there is some bug report with very similar error message, but given that it worked on 18.04 I suppose my case is different? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/biber/+bug/1770516
[08:15] <CrackedCracker> :^)
[08:15] <CrackedCracker> it's also from 2018
[08:15] <oerheks> but biber is a fork ..
[08:16] <CrackedCracker> hmm, didn't quite get it, can you elaborate?
[08:16] <oerheks> i think you should ask the maintainer,w e share packages from debian http://metadata.ftp-master.debian.org/changelogs/main/t/texlive-extra/unstable_changelog
[08:16] <oerheks> 'biber: Much-augmented BibTeX replacement for BibLaTeX users'
[08:17] <CrackedCracker> oh, so you mean "a fork of bibtex"
[08:17] <oerheks> oke, maybe not correct,..
[08:19] <CrackedCracker> ok, thanks! Maybe there is someone else on 20.04 with similar issue?
[08:25] <herol3oy> .
[08:28] <CrackedCracker> hmm, there is a note in the changelog saying "break against TL version with current biblatex"
[08:28] <CrackedCracker> I wonder what TL version stands for
[08:28] <CrackedCracker> here https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/biber
[08:48] <Peanut> Hi folks - I'm re-installing my Ubuntu machine with ZFS. I netbooted the installer, but I don't get a ZFS option in the partitioning menu?
[09:00] <Peanut> Great.. netboot installation says 'apt install cd-boot-images-amd64', which only exists for 'groovy', not for 'focal'.
[09:08] <CrackedCracker> ok, I seemingly solved my problem. biblatex was coming from ~/texmf dir, which I think came from previous installation of tex with tlmgr? I nuked ~/texmf altogether, stuff seems to work now
[09:26] <sazawal> Hi all. I have Ubuntu/Gnome 20.04 on my Thinkpad E560. This has happened the second time that when my laptop ran out of battery and shut down, the touchpad stopped working when I booted it the next morning. The last time it started working by itself one day later. I couldn't figure out the issue. Please help!
[09:33] <Peanut> Is ZFS install not available on the server installer yet? (Focal)
[09:36] <lotuspsychje> sazawal: when your issue arises, can you still movie the mouse pointer slowly? or no touchpad at all?
[09:37] <lotuspsychje> sazawal: i have something similar with bug #1807818 haunting me across several ubuntu versions
[09:37] <lotuspsychje> Peanut: try asking in #ubuntu-server
[09:37] <sazawal> lotuspsychje, It doesn't work at all. Neither the touchpad clicks, nor scrolling.
[09:38] <sazawal> Let me see this bug
[09:38] <makara> hi. Im running 20.04 and connecting to my office L2TP IPSEC VPN. They say my connection is not encrypted. How do i encrypt it?
[09:38] <lotuspsychje> sazawal: ok, that sounds like a bit different bug, but mine also happens one day, then works few weeks, then again 1 boot
[09:40] <sazawal> Does your xinput shows the touchpad device? For me it doesn't as much as I understood it.
[09:41] <sazawal> lotuspsychje
[09:42] <lotuspsychje> sazawal: SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad yeah
[09:43] <lotuspsychje> sazawal: check the id number when you 'xinput' in terminal
[09:44] <sazawal> lotuspsychje, It is not showing right now for me, only "Virtual core XTEST pointer". I don't remember if it shows normally, but it should because it works.
[09:44] <lotuspsychje> sazawal: ok thats weird, lets see your dmesg in a pastebin please?
[09:46] <sazawal> lotuspsychje, Just checked my dmesg, could this be the issue: "[0.712486] ima: Error Communicating to TPM chip". I am sending you the dmesg output in a minute.
[09:47] <sazawal> lotuspsychje, Here it is, https://termbin.com/r3an
[09:51] <lotuspsychje> sazawal: tnx, not really sure on your case, but an idea could be trying acpi methods and/or biosupdate on your lenovo
[09:51] <lotuspsychje> !acpi | sazawal
[09:51] <lotuspsychje> !biosupdate | sazawal
[09:52] <sazawal> lotuspsychje, Is it safe to do a biosupdate on an os-installed system? Or do I need a new Ubuntu installation after that?
[09:55] <lotuspsychje> sazawal: biosupdates should be safe to do, if you are sure you pick the right biosversion for your computer model
[09:55] <lotuspsychje> sazawal: if you are unsure, read up lenovo bios update methods, or ask in ##hardware for the right guidance
[09:56] <sazawal> I see. I guess the link you sent tells me how to pick the right version?
[09:56] <lotuspsychje> sazawal: from your dmesg this is your current bios version: DMI: LENOVO 20EV000RGE/20EV000RGE, BIOS R00ET38W (1.13 ) 02/24/2016
[09:57] <lotuspsychje> sazawal: so, browse lenovo support website for this same model, and see if there are latest bios versions available for your machine
[09:57] <sazawal> Great!
[09:59] <lotuspsychje> sazawal: did you notice your bug across several ubuntu versions or kernels?
[10:27] <sazawal> lotuspsychje, No, this is the first time I have encountered such a bug. I am only a user, not a developer.
[11:38] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[11:53] <afidegnum> i installed vsftpd on ubuntu 18, i was able to connect to the server even anonymously but i'm not able to browser directory listing, i'm faced with timeout,
[11:53] <afidegnum> what can be done ?
[11:55] <Peanut> afidegnum: That sounds like the usual firewall issue with FTP daemons. Check whether you're using passive or active connections. Especially when using active, try passive.
[11:58] <afidegnum> Peanut: from the client or server ?
[11:59] <afidegnum> from the client it's showing passive mode
[12:10] <Peanut> At the client should be enough. If you have root access to the server, you can see whether the data connection gets established.
[12:11] <jduggan> hey guys, looking for official or atleast well documented instructions to join a domain and serve files - there's lots of 3rd party documentation for lots of different approaches/versions, can anyone point me in the right direction ? server 20.0 fwiw
[12:17] <tatertotz> jduggan: realmd + sssd
[12:18] <tatertotz> jduggan: you've been pointed
[12:19] <ferz> Hi, I need to run a gov application written in java some years ago.
[12:20] <ferz> It seems that it is not compatible with default java versione installed. I think to install openjdk-8-jre/focal.
[12:20] <ferz> Which is the difference between headless or normal package?
[12:20] <ferz> How can I force this app to run using this version of jre?
[12:22] <ferz> Headless is without Swing and gfx/keyboard support.
[12:22] <Peanut> Does anyone know why ~/.cache has permissions 'drwx--x---+' (note the +) ?
[12:23] <tatertotz> Peanut: + means additional permissions i.e ACL's
[12:24] <Peanut> tatertotz: Thanks, how can I view them? I'm trying to move my ~ to a ZFS file system, and it chokes on ~/.cache.
[12:25] <Peanut> tatertotz: 'getfacl'. Turns out it is something that libvirt-qemu did.
[12:26] <Peanut> So the libvirt-qemu user has rwx on my .cache directory.
[12:26] <Peanut> Or at least '--x'.
[12:41] <sazawal> lotuspsychje, I went outside and kept the laptop lid closed for say 20 minutes, now the touchpad started working again.
[12:42] <sazawal> lotuspsychje, xinput now shows the touchpad hardware, AlpsPS/2 ALPS DualPoint Stick, AlpsPS/2 ALPS DualPoint TouchPad
[12:52] <zethius> Hello?
[12:52] <zethius> I need help
[12:52] <Phruis> so ask the question
[12:52] <zethius> How do I get a driver I want?
[12:53] <zethius> I can get it using the additional drivers app
[12:53] <Phruis> use the driver program jockey
[12:53] <zethius> However, I want to get it using the command line
[12:53] <Phruis> then apt search
[12:53] <zethius> I cant find it unless I install using the additional drivers software
[12:54] <nbusrone> Anyone here using nvidia driver Desktop ?
[12:55] <tarzeau> i've got like 50 computers with nvidia drivers (450+cuda)
[12:55] <tarzeau> most of them are desktops some are rack nodes with 8 gpus...
[12:55] <tarzeau> i'm using 20.04/18.04 with cuda.list (nvidia cuda repos) and own repo for cudnn
[12:56] <nbusrone> tarzeau : I really need some help
[12:56] <nbusrone> The brightness get reset for every restart , logout or wake up on the monitor , opening a web browser with youtube also affected
[12:57] <tarzeau> my help: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/cuda.list with this as content: deb http://developer.download.nvidia.com/compute/cuda/repos/ubuntu1804/x86_64 /
[12:57] <tarzeau> nbusrone: use xgamma?
[12:57] <tarzeau> in .xsession(rc)
[12:57] <nbusrone> tarzeau : It is not really about cuda
[12:57] <nbusrone> tarzeau : When I lower the Birhgtness to -50 https://i.imgur.com/FfCPFhJ.jpg and -1 value https://i.imgur.com/2TFGdhP.jpg of the Nvidia setting graph line lower top and bottom x and y axis equaly but when I lower the brightness , the graph line only gets lower at the top and not equal.https://i.imgur.com/xoO4mTz.jpg and reduce to none https://i.imgur.com/9q7ofeI.jpg only flatten the graph compare to nvidia setting
[13:05] <nbusrone> tarzeau : it's just a desktop 440 driver , but I am facing brightness reset. I need someone to confirm whether it affected user using nvidia before reporting as a bug
[13:07] <tarzeau> nbusrone: i can't tell you since i use xgamma for gamma correction
[13:16] <nbusrone> tarzeau : how do I view my xgamma ? and command ?
[13:16] <tarzeau> nbusrone: xgamma -h
[13:17] <tarzeau> nbusrone: xgamma shows you what you have, i often use xgamma -gamma 1.6
[13:19] <nbusrone> tarzeau : https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Rq9ScHHKrT/ looks like it show nothing
[13:19] <tarzeau> nbusrone: just run xgamma without anything
[13:19] <tarzeau> -h is for help
[13:21] <nbusrone> tarzeau : sorry newbie , -> Red  1.000, Green  1.000, Blue  1.000
[13:22] <nbusrone> tarzeau : i think i am using xcalib for gamma
[13:25] <nbusrone> tarzeau : actually , why on nvidia setting able to set and reduce x and y axis ? what is your nvidia setting on gamma graph line ?
[13:26] <tarzeau> i don't have nvidia @home, home office for until august
[13:27] <nbusrone> tarzeau : no matter your how your xgamma setting , it'll show curve line while on nvidia setting you can set a straight increase on reduce axis x,y .
[13:29] <nbusrone> tarzeau : actually your xgamma is just a brightness control gamma.You can't reduce your xgamma brightness at all.
[13:29] <nbusrone> tarzeau : so what pc you are using right now ?
[13:30] <tarzeau> imac that is very old with ubuntu 20.04
[13:30] <tarzeau> 4 core, 16 gb memory
[13:31] <nbusrone> tarzeau : using nvidia driver or intel ? 4 core isn't old , 16gb ram is more than everyone here
[13:40] <nbusrone> Anyone here using nvidia driver Desktop ?
[13:57] <bipin> Hi , free -m , command is showing : total : 3853 ,used : 650 , free : 388 , I dont understand why free : 388 , It used to be a lot before , what went wrong , I Have 4GB RAM laptop , I guess used+free=total , but whats wrong ?
[13:59] <hggdh> bipin: most probably nothing is wrong. The kernel uses free memory for I/O cache. If a program requires more memory, the kernel will release as much cache memory as needed
[14:00] <bipin> but just right after reboot , free shows something like in 3333 , what about that ?
[14:00] <hggdh> bipin: and no, used+free != total because of the kernel cache
[14:02] <hggdh> bipin: right after reboot, there is not enough filesystem activity. As time goes by, and memory allows, the kernel will keep caching filesystem data to improve response times
[14:02] <aaabbbbbbbbbb_> Hi, does anybody know what would be the best way to obtain the command that is run to start an upstart service; the exec line in the /etc/init/service.conf file ... I don't want to parse the init files myself, since they live in different directories (unless there is a command to determine where the service's configuration file is located); This is really easy with systemd, where I can use "systemctl show", but sadly I'm on Ubuntu 14.04 and it
[14:02] <aaabbbbbbbbbb_> uses upstart.
[14:03] <bipin> Ok , I was just wondering because My laptop went slow past 3 days
[14:04] <hggdh> bipin: what I said applies in general -- this is why I started with "most probably"
[14:04] <hggdh> bipin: you can run htop, and order by memory usage
[14:08] <leftyfb> aaabbbbbbbbbb_: why mess with upstart at all? It's at the end of it's life
[14:10] <leftyfb> aaabbbbbbbbbb_: Ubuntu 14.04 is EOL and not supported here anymore as of 1.5 years ago
[14:12] <aaabbbbbbbbbb_> leftyfb, I also have RHEL6 system that also has upstart
[14:12] <aaabbbbbbbbbb_> I need to add a script that will provide information about some of the upstart services
[14:15] <nbusrone> aaabbbbbbbbbb_ : upstart is startup on daemon ?
[14:16] <aaabbbbbbbbbb_> upstart is the startup manager for the Linux system ... if this is not the answer you're looking for, please clarify the question a little more?
[14:16] <aaabbbbbbbbbb_> nbusrone, ^
[14:18] <nbusrone> aaabbbbbbbbbb_ : I want to know what does this startup function call /usr/lib/gnome-settings-daemon
[14:18] <nbusrone> aaabbbbbbbbbb_ : newbie here
[14:19] <aaabbbbbbbbbb_> nbusrone, this is a directory on my system
[14:19] <aaabbbbbbbbbb_> I don't know what's your end goal
[14:21] <nbusrone> aaabbbbbbbbbb_ : My brightness on Nvidia setting reset for every restart , logout or wake up on the monitor , opening a web browser with youtube also affected.
[14:22] <nbusrone> aaabbbbbbbbbb_ : I suspect it had to do with /usr/lib/gnome-settings-daemon startup program that reset the brightness
[14:22] <nbusrone> aaabbbbbbbbbb_ : I plan to inspect is it really the start up program that really affecting the reset of brightness.
[14:24] <Peanut> Is it not possible to netboot the Desktop CD? It works with the server live CD, but the desktop CD loads, then gives me 'unable to find a live file system on the network'.
[14:24] <Peanut> And I'm stuck in initramfs.
[14:26] <leftyfb> Peanut: maybe start here? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveCDNetboot    # first result on google for "ubuntu netboot live cd"
[14:27] <leftyfb> also https://forums.fogproject.org/topic/12365/booting-ubuntu-18-04-live-cd?_=1595428023687&lang=en-GB   # also from the google results
[14:29] <Peanut> Thanks leftyfb, I didn't realise I had to nfsroot them, looking for alternatives solutions now. Not sure why my search engine didn't get me those pages.
[14:30] <nbusrone> aaabbbbbbbbbb_ : You have no idea what is gnome-settings-daemon ?
[14:30] <leftyfb> nbusrone: apt-cache show gnome-settings-daemon
[14:32] <nbusrone> leftyfb :$ apt-cache show gsd-power
[14:32] <nbusrone> N: Unable to locate package gsd-powe
[14:33] <leftyfb> nbusrone: why are you running apt-cache show gsd-power ?
[14:34] <nbusrone> leftyfb : I want to know whether it's gsd-power affect the brightness reset.I want to know what log or lib it use.
[14:34] <leftyfb> nbusrone: gsd-power is a binary that is part of the gnome-settings-daemon package
[14:34] <nbusrone> leftyfb : can I know the log that use gsd-power ?
[14:36] <nbusrone> leftyfb : My brightness reset may be due to gsd-power
[14:42] <Peanut> leftyfb: fixed it, I don't need an NFS server - I just hadn't replaced the server initrd/vmlinuz with the desktop client initrd/vmlinuz.
[14:45] <nbusrone> leftyfb : should I fill both bug report on nvidia driver or gsd-power ?
[14:58] <scwoobles> i could use some help setting up mysql
[15:02] <scwoobles> when I add the package for mysql and then i try to log in with user root with no password specified and it gives me an error of 1698
[15:04] <scwoobles> nvm i missed the sudo
[15:05] <leftyfb> scwoobles: the password auth is disabled by default in the later versions of mysql. You can login locally as root/sudo
[15:10] <nbusrone> leftyfb : can explain more on gnome-settings-daemon gsd-power ?
[15:14] <Peanut> Wud? I'm running 20.04, and my network interface name just changed from enp3s0f0 to enp2s0f0, either because I removed my graphics card, or added a NVME M.2 card. Aren't those device names supposed to be stable?
[15:17] <leftyfb> Peanut: https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames/
[15:21] <Peanut> leftyfb: Thanks. So enp2* should be the 'physical location of the hardware connector', which for sure didn't change from slot 3 to slot 2. Puzzling..
[15:56] <whitepacket> hello
[15:57] <Phruis> hello fellow human
[15:58]  * Phruis tries to act natural
[16:13] <Vincent_VV> test
[16:15] <mindbyte> test back
[16:21] <leftyfb> Vincent_VV: there is an almost infinite number of channels you can join or create to test your irc client. This is a support channel for Ubuntu and isn't an appropriate place to test your client
[16:22] <Vincent_VV> sorry for disturbing. noted
[16:38] <flying_sausages> My time is changing whenever I wireguard into my server in a different timezone, any suggestions where should I bring that up?
[16:38] <flying_sausages> i.e. the timezone is being changed
[17:23] <auspugs> does anyone chat in here?
[17:24] <coconut> auspugs, barely, which is how it should for this channel... if you want to chat, to #ubuntu-offtopic please.
[17:24] <auspugs> no worries thanks for the heads up
[17:43] <jasonsmr> hello ubuntu channel
[17:44] <jasonsmr> interesting thing happened installing ubuntu server...
[17:44] <jasonsmr> I downloaded what I thought was the amd version for my HP Workstation right?
[17:45] <jasonsmr> well I actualy downloaded the arm64 version understandable mistake I didnt read it well
[17:46] <jasonsmr> but crazy thing is the arm64 version install completed on a amd64 system, shouldent there have been a warning preventing this?
[17:47] <jasonsmr> after instal there was all kinds of write errors ultimatly debunking the system but stil I find myself amazed it installed
[17:50] <abdulhakeem> If I use NetworkManager over networkd, should I disable the networkd services? Does leaving them enabled harm anything?
[17:50] <abdulhakeem> Server 20.04
[18:09] <abdulhakeem> If I use NetworkManager over networkd, should I disable the networkd services? Does leaving them enabled harm anything? Server 20.04
[18:11] <tatertotz> abdulhakeem: server edition doesn't have network manager by default, if you're dependent on things from the desktop edition why even use server edition? if you're only going do the best you can to add packages found in desktop edition
[18:15] <abdulhakeem> tatertotz: Because I want a server, but I also want a GUI :)
[18:18] <tatertotz> abdulhakeem: .....yeah
[18:24] <abdulhakeem> please show me the rule that says all servers must be headless
[18:29] <cncr04s> there was some recent update to openssl and all of my ssl applications get segmentation falts
[18:30] <compdoc> rule #237: all servers must be headless
[18:31] <cncr04s> it is headless
[18:31] <cncr04s> exception at 0xffffffffc9df9e20
[18:32] <rfm> abdulhakeem, without getting into this discussion about whether it's a server with a gui or a desktop that runs services, a desktop install has systemd-networkd disabled but other stuff like systemd-resolved running.
[18:33] <abdulhakeem> yeah my DNS keeps getting overwritten
[18:33] <abdulhakeem> trying to figure out why
[18:33] <abdulhakeem> figured maybe networkd or one of the other systemd services might be conflicting
[18:34] <abdulhakeem> something edited my netplan yaml but idk what
[18:34] <abdulhakeem> so maybe i need to disable resolved?
[18:35] <rfm> abdulhakeem, if something is fiddling with netplan it's probably cloud-init you need to disable
[18:36] <abdulhakeem> ah okay yeah wasn't sure what cloud-init was
[18:36] <abdulhakeem> I'll look into that
[19:08] <jasonsmr> hello ubuntu channel
[19:09] <jasonsmr> question is there any reason why there would be no /etc/network/interfaces file? using LTS server 20
[19:18] <mbeierl> Has anyone tried using their Ubuntu machine as a handsfree mic/speaker for their bluetooth phone?
[19:29] <leftyfb> !yy.mm | jasonsmr
[19:29] <leftyfb> !netplan | jasonsmr
[19:30] <jasonsmr> oh yaml configurations
[19:30] <leftyfb> jasonsmr: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MigratingToNetplan
[19:31] <jasonsmr> i used to be familure with configuring yamal files for suse yast plugins
[19:31] <jasonsmr> yaml
[19:32] <jasonsmr> been away for a while
[19:46] <trashly> ,
[19:48] <cluelessperson> now bluetooth won't turn on
[19:59] <jasonsmr> okey the LTS ubuntu server version 20.04 is shutting down my pc often I dont know why
[20:00] <jasonsmr> and Im getting acpi errors and pci error and noveau error
[20:02] <jasonsmr> acpi error and apparently it is entering sleep state?
[20:04] <texla> Ubuntu 20.4 under the icon files catagory other locations partitions is listed as 70 gb volume instead of the names Folac and or mint can this be changed??
[20:11] <KOLANICH> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=966084
[20:15] <trashly> On 18.04. Firefox has a bug with the bookmarking feature and refuse to shutdown without killing.
[20:16] <trashly> It only happens with Ubuntu
[20:25] <cluelessperson> I don't blame ubuntu for crappy radio/hardware, but I do blame ubuntu for unresponsive UI when hardware screws up
[20:27] <cluelessperson> Right now bluetooth isn't working at all.
[20:40] <Loshki> abdulhakeem: it's a typo. All *servants* should be headless/
[20:47] <zethius> Any one here?
[20:47] <Ben64> 1176 people
[20:47] <zethius> Wow, my /var/log directory was recently deleated by some one
[20:47] <zethius> What are my options?
[20:53] <Ben64> boot into recovery mode and recreate /var/log i guess?
[20:54] <cluelessperson> zenguy, "some one" ?
[21:01] <jo-erlend> I don't know when it started, but recently I've noticed that low-level audio keeps dropping off. Like in movies, for instance, talking is never choppy, but say birds in the background come and go as if they audio is turned on and off. Does anyone know if this is a known bug?
[21:04] <cluelessperson> jo-erlend, many audio interfaces shutoff when they think there's no sound.
[21:04] <cluelessperson> jo-erlend, maybe there's a setting not to do that
[21:04] <jo-erlend> The problem seems to go away if I turn up the audio, but that's still annoying because it means I have to have my amplifier at a lower level, giving me less range than I would like.
[21:06] <jo-erlend> cluelessperson, thanks for the suggestion. I'll look into that.
[21:28] <cluelessperson> Once a bluetooth device is paired, how is connecting capabilities handled?
[21:29] <Paddy_NI> Is there anyway to exaggerate the "locate pointer" animation when you press control?
[21:29] <Sven_vB> are there ways to limit the reach of a PPA? maybe giving a whitelist of (patterns of) which package names are acceptable from that PPA and which paths their files may be extracted to?
[21:30] <cluelessperson> Paddy_NI, no, and it's not very well implemented.
[21:30] <Sven_vB> (in focal, if relevant)
[21:30] <cluelessperson> Sven_vB, yes.
[21:30] <cluelessperson> Sven_vB, looking
[21:30] <Paddy_NI> I would like it to be much more attention grabbing as I am volunteering with a group of disabled people and it would help tremendously
[21:30] <Paddy_NI> cluelessperson, It's nice but a little too subtle for my intentions
[21:30] <cluelessperson> Sven_vB, "apt pinning" or similar
[21:31] <cluelessperson> Paddy_NI, I believe there's accessibility software that can create full screen crosshairs on the mouse.
[21:31] <sarnold> Sven_vB: no, there's no limits on what packages may be installed via a ppa, nor can you confine what those packages can do when they are being installed
[21:31] <cluelessperson> Paddy_NI, you can also greatly increase the size of the mouse pointer.
[21:32] <cluelessperson> Paddy_NI, You can also use a pointer magnifying glass in the corner.
[21:32] <Paddy_NI> I have been toying with that and also Gromit
[21:33] <Paddy_NI> Compiz had a great mouse pointer locator
[21:33] <Paddy_NI> Plugin
[21:33] <cluelessperson> Paddy_NI, I think you want Ubuntu xScope
[21:33] <Paddy_NI> cluelessperson, Thank you, I will have a look :-)
[21:33] <cluelessperson> uh, maybe not
[21:33] <cluelessperson> that's mainly for screen measuring, not accessibility
[21:34] <Paddy_NI> Ah
[21:37] <Sven_vB> sarnold, thanks!
[21:38] <cluelessperson> sarnold, I thought you could with apt pinning
[21:42] <sarnold> cluelessperson: I think pin is better understood as saying "I want only this handful of packages from this repo, and most everything else to come from that repo"
[21:42] <Sven_vB> is there a way to plug something into apt that will modify the list of package offers from a repo, after the original version has been downloaded and its integrity verified? then I could remove unwanted package offers at that stage. maybe with a custom apt transport?
[21:42] <cluelessperson> sarnold, yeah
[21:43] <cluelessperson> sarnold, I thought that's what they're asking.
[21:43] <cluelessperson> doesn't that do what's requested?
[21:43] <sarnold> cluelessperson: oh, perhaps I misread Sven_vB
[21:44] <cluelessperson> sarnold, my understanding is they're attempting to limit what packages might be installed from a repo
[21:46] <Sven_vB> cluelessperson, sarnold, ignoring unwanted packages would at least deter some low-motivation attacks, like uploading a kernel into the vlc PPA :)
[21:47] <scwoobles> hello people of the net, where do i find the setting to change the hostname of my pc
[21:47] <Sven_vB> cluelessperson, sarnold, of course it would still leave the problem that an evil package with legit name could still replace arbitrary files.
[21:47] <tarzeau> scwoobles: i use hostname, the command to set it and maybe also /etc/hostname /etc/hosts
[21:48] <sarnold> scwoobles: check out hostnamectl, systemd has its own ideas too
[21:48] <Sven_vB> scwoobles, the "hostname" command can set it temporarily, and the /etc/hostname says what name to use on next reboot.
[21:48] <sarnold> Sven_vB: the preinst, postinst, prerm, postrm, scripts in packages can do whatever they want as root
[21:48] <sarnold> Sven_vB: adding a malicious repo is giving someone else full root privileges on your computer
[21:49] <Sven_vB> sarnold, thanks for reminding me. yes those scripts are a problem, too.
[21:49] <tarzeau> Sven_vB: you can set it instantly, without reboot, if you have telinit q
[21:50] <Sven_vB> I guess I'll have to use another package manager in addition to apt then.
[21:52] <sarnold> Sven_vB: indeed; this is how we got to snaps. our click packages had a bunch of rules to try to let us reuse debs to do things safely but they brought a huge number of problems with them... so we started over to get declarative and sandboxed and so on from the start. snaps aren't perfect by any means, but that's how we got there.
[21:54] <abdulhakeem> I have ubuntu server 20.04 just functioning as a home server, is there any reason to keep cloud-init? I'm pretty sure I don't need it but I don't want to break something by removing it
[21:54] <abdulhakeem> it's not a cloud server/cloud instance so I'm pretty sure I don't need cloud-init
[21:55] <sarnold> yeah I think it should only have run once and then never again anyway; you should be good to purge it
[21:55] <abdulhakeem> ok ty
[22:00] <abdulhakeem> and then if I've switch to NetworkManager from networkd, should I just go ahead and disable all network-related systemd services? like resolved, networkd, etc.?
[22:01] <sarnold> turning off resolved is apparently pretty difficult
[22:01] <sarnold> so long as you configure systemd-networkd to not do network things first it should do nothing gracefully
[22:21] <juniorrubyist_> hello
[22:21] <juniorrubyist> hello
[22:22] <juniorrubyist> (just testing, sorry)
[22:24] <ryaeng> Where can I go to edit package descriptions?
[22:27] <Bashing-om> ryaeng: In what context ?
[22:29] <Peanut> Hi - I've booted from the 20.04 live CD, and have created /dev/md0 (to mirror my root fs) and copied the data over. Now I want to install grub, and update the initramfs on the new copy of the root, to make it bootable. Any suggestions? update-initramfs doesn't actually exist on the livecd (it just says: disabled since running on read-only media).
[22:30] <ryaeng> @Bashing-om I'm looking at the following bug.
[22:30] <ryaeng> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxsession/+bug/1085355
[22:30] <ryaeng> Typo in the description.
[22:31] <ryaeng> Upsteam it was noted that this was fixed in the latest version of lxsession but it's not a problem with lxsession. It's a problem with lxsession-edit.
[22:32] <ryaeng> This is the description that was pulled from Debian's FTP archives.
[22:32] <ryaeng> Description: configure what application start up automaticlly in LXDE
[22:36] <Bashing-om> ryaeng: A quick look - appears has been bumped to upstream - do not know what else we can do but wait and see.
[22:37] <OneM_Industries> So, I have a weird issue.
[22:37] <OneM_Industries> I have one window that will not fully maximize.
[22:38] <OneM_Industries> It "locks" to the taskbar, but won't actually maximize. It's like it's stuck in windowed mode instead of fullscreen.
[22:42] <ryaeng> @Bashing-om I suppose I could attempt to patch upstream.
[22:44] <ryaeng> @Bashing-om New to bugs in Ubuntu. Can you educate me? If a package is maintained upstream, there's nothing more we can do than report the bug upstream? Is that correct?
[23:08] <jo-erlend> Sven_vB, Debian packages are installed by running scripts as root. You can use apt pinning to make sure PPAs lose any competition with distro archives, but it does nothing for malicious packages. It's one of the reasons for Snapd.
[23:08] <Sven_vB> jo-erlend, thanks for summarizing it again!
[23:10] <Bashing-om> ryaeng: Not "that" familiar with the bug reporting process myself.
[23:10] <Bashing-om> !bug | ryaeng
[23:11] <jo-erlend> Sven_vB, I was scrolling my backlog. Didn't see that it was elaborated later. :)
[23:16] <lewie67[p]> anyone here a preseed expert? i'm having a partitioning/early_command issue i can't seem to figure out
[23:21] <Sven_vB> jo-erlend, yeah, I thought so. my reply was badly worded, I think "??? for the compact confirmation" would have been more what I meant.
[23:23] <shivaya> hi folks, I am trying to set up new autoinstall for Focus with iPXE and I can't find any reference on how to set up pxe boot file for UEFI. is there any reference somewhere?
[23:56] <snackoverflow> anyone hiring python/django devs?