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meenaI've been invited to the canonical org again!13:28
Odd_Blokemeena: powersj: Yep, it was so we could request you as a reviewer; we're adding you back ATM.13:28
Odd_Bloke(Our IS department are introducing automation to sync LDAP and GitHub to ease starter/leaver tasks; you just need adding to an allowlist. :)13:29
Odd_Blokehttps://github.com/canonical/cloud-init/pull/493 is no longer WIP, and is ready for review/landing.16:32
Odd_Blokesmoser: rharper: Given ds-identify should mean that we only use the OpenStack DS when we should expect a response, https://github.com/canonical/cloud-init/pull/501 seems like a reasonable change; any thoughts?17:42
smoserso current behavior is it will try once, with a socket timeout of 10 seconds ?18:02
smoserbefore ditching it?18:02
smosernon-intel is an issue18:04
rharperOdd_Bloke: I wonder if we should order the 90_dpkg.cfg datsource_list by increasing timeout?   for non-intel, they are trying all ds ; NoCloud, ConfigDrive, OpenNebula, DO, Azure, AltCld, OVF, MAAS, GCE before openstack ;   for intel they'll head right for it (and not trying anything else);18:24
Odd_BlokeOh, because non-Intel don't (necessarily) have DMI data?18:34
rharpercorrect18:37
rharperso it's a maybe and you don't get the short list18:38
rharperbeyond optimization; for non-ds id paths;  the change seems fine; though going from 10 to 120 is a big jump for timeouts;    but generally I don't think there's anything wrong with the change;18:39
smoserits hard... because the truth is, if your metadata service isn't there, its because you have a failed cloud.20:45
smoserin the past 10 years, i have never seen ec2 metadata service down.20:46
smoserbut, imo because of bad design, every openstack has issues with terribly slow metadata service.20:46
smoserso one par tof me says "sure, change cloud-init to work better on your little toy"20:47
smoserand the other part says "fix your silly cloud."20:47
smoserbut we do not want a larrge timeout on non-intel unless there is only one datasource in the list.20:48
rharpersmoser: we had a similar discussion around ipv6 imds for openstack ...   without a non-networky way to know whether it's worth waiting or not; you just end up waiting;21:06

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