[01:41] <lotuspsychje> good morning
[01:56] <Maik_aD> good morning lotuspsychje
[01:56] <lotuspsychje> hey there Maik_aD
[01:56] <lotuspsychje> picked a new nick?
[02:01] <Maik_aD> yup
[02:01] <lotuspsychje> not at work today baking bread?
[02:02] <Maik_aD> one night off  :)
[02:04] <Maik_aD> but apparently the timetable will be adjusted next week so that I am off for two nights in a row
[02:05] <lotuspsychje> oof
[02:05] <lotuspsychje> bakers life is hard right
[02:05] <lotuspsychje> all to please those customers with roomsoesjes you need to work your ...off
[02:06] <Maik_aD> and if they switch it again we need to have a talk, i'm not a puppet
[02:06] <Maik_aD> lol, yep
[02:06]  * Maik_aD blames oerheks
[02:06] <Maik_aD> :P
[02:08] <lotuspsychje> lol
[02:09] <lotuspsychje> oh no, the kali thread again.. :p
[02:12] <Maik_aD> going to watch some tv and finish this bottle of wine
[02:13] <lotuspsychje> cheers
[02:15] <Maik_aD> thanks, been a while since i actually drank alcohol
[02:18] <lotuspsychje> i bet
[06:19] <ducasse> good morning
[06:21] <oerheks> hi di hi ducasse
[06:24] <Maik_aD> ducasse: good morning
[06:26] <ducasse> \o oerheks Maik_aD
[10:42] <DarkTrick> Why do we actually need a desktop linux OS?
[10:43] <DarkTrick> Wouldn't all the energy be better focussed on customizing Windows or OS X instead of trying to bake another OS?
[10:43] <oerheks> LoLz ..
[10:43] <oerheks> and wait for updates, once a month?
[10:44] <oerheks> and pay, register, the need of antivirus ...
[10:45] <tomreyn> no source code, most of all
[10:45] <oerheks> security by obscurity
[10:45] <daftykins> they don't restrict updates to once a month
[10:46] <daftykins> yeah it's a proprietary product, you can't just work on some other company's OS
[10:46] <daftykins> that's an extremely basic and poorly thought out argument
[10:46] <oerheks> sure they do, 2nd tuesday, right?
[10:47] <daftykins> but if something is serious enough then they do out of band updates too
[10:47] <daftykins> with the many ubuntu servers i manage, i've been getting seriously sick of how often they push regular kernel updates throughout a week, it'd be much nicer if it were limited
[10:48] <daftykins> so there are pros and cons either way
[10:48] <tomreyn> ubuntu has a schedule, too
[10:49] <tomreyn> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/StableReleaseCadence
[10:51] <DarkTrick> about a month ago there was a kernel update, that froze my computer every 5 minutes for 10 to 20 seconds
[10:51] <daftykins> don't really feel like reading through that to get an idea of how they intend to release them
[10:51] <DarkTrick> I cant remember the last time Windows did that
[10:51] <daftykins> all updates though can just be peppered along a week, pretty frustrating when you handle a bunch of boxes
[10:52] <DarkTrick> sure, Win and OS X have problems, but I recently feel, that Ubuntu has problems on a much lower level
[10:52] <daftykins> it's been called macOS for several years now btw
[10:52] <DarkTrick> e.g. it takes days to find anything close to mspaint... and even that doesn't work properly (regular crashes)
[10:53] <DarkTrick> daftykins, had a 50:50 chance with OS X. I knew either of one was the correct one :D
[10:53] <daftykins> this sounds very much like your own system, nobody else is coming in support saying so
[10:53] <DarkTrick> Maybe because most of the people gave up?
[10:53] <daftykins> lol no
[10:54] <DarkTrick> Aunt Tully woulnd't use irc
[10:54] <daftykins> she also wouldn't embrace Tux
[10:55] <DarkTrick> don't get me wrong btw., I'm not trying to rant. I'm merely trying to find some sense in the last years I spend for linux
[10:56] <DarkTrick> I want to get on fixing bugs but I feel like I'm to busy getting a running system
[10:58] <DarkTrick> So the question: why spending millions of hours on linux ... which is ... Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xunbuntu, Suse, lalala
[10:58] <daftykins> you must have a hardware incompatibility somewhere or not know what you're doing, then
[10:58] <DarkTrick> for servers, sure, but as desktop?
[10:59] <DarkTrick> well, I plug it in
[10:59] <DarkTrick> maybe that's the problem :D
[11:01] <daftykins> plug what in, power? riiiiight
[11:02] <DarkTrick> usb mic
[11:09] <daftykins> you're really peppering us with your issues there
[11:14] <DarkTrick> perhaps I got too much into detail.
[11:16] <daftykins> from the outside here's your thought process as it appears to me
[11:16] <daftykins> "i couldn't get x working, had a problem with y... so why does this OS even exist?"
[11:17] <DarkTrick> yeh, perhaps I should've ordered my thoughts first :/
[11:19] <DarkTrick> It's more like this: "We're working on getting a filemanager - a "problem" "solved" years ago, while people are starving or held slaves"
[11:20] <daftykins> no idea which desktop you think is searching for a file manager
[11:21] <DarkTrick> hm...again, this is merely an example
[11:21] <DarkTrick> take the hibernation feature instead
[11:22] <daftykins> irrelevant, it's been disabled on most modern OSs
[11:22] <daftykins> or at least - hidden
[14:27] <sonicwind> hey Maik_aD
[14:34] <Maik_aD> sonicwind: hey
[14:41] <Maik_aD> i still need to find a way to stay logged in on irc so can check in from work durng my breaks.
[14:41] <jeremy31> Maik_aD: bouncer
[14:41] <Maik_aD> maybe turn the old netbook into a server with quassel core on it
[14:42] <Maik_aD> jeremy31: tried it once, didn't work out well
[14:46] <jeremy31> I use irccloud, works on my phone and linux computers
[14:51] <Maik_aD> i'll have a look, thanks
[14:56] <lotuspsychje> or just showup oldskool style :p
[14:57] <jeremy31> Mirc?
[14:57] <lotuspsychje> lol jeremy31
[14:57]  * lotuspsychje slaps jeremy31 with a very large trout
[14:57] <jeremy31> Don't be mean to trout
[14:58] <lotuspsychje> sorry pushed the wrong mirc button
[14:58] <jeremy31> I think that is even in irccloud
[14:58]  * jeremy31 slaps everyone around a bit with a large striped bass
[14:58] <lotuspsychje> haha
[15:06] <lotuspsychje> they are just toying with us again
[15:09] <Maik_aD> lotuspsychje: futurerich?
[15:10] <lotuspsychje> a lot of nicks in the weekend
[15:10] <lotuspsychje> they join by gangs and invent some fictive issues to troll
[15:11] <lotuspsychje> it needs a bit of training to recognize them
[15:11] <jeremy31> An outbreak of trolls?  Call the WHO
[15:12] <lotuspsychje> lol
[15:12] <jeremy31> wear a mask and wash your hands
[15:12] <Maik_aD> lotuspsychje: i know, seems they have nothing better to do
[15:13] <lotuspsychje> i'd rather call gandalf the grey, instead of WHO sauron :p
[15:13] <Maik_aD> lol
[15:22] <Maik_aD> right... time to get ready. See you in the morning.
[15:22] <lotuspsychje> work em Maik_aD
[15:23] <Maik_aD> thanks