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[07:14] <knome> DarkTrick, have you reported bug reports for these?
[08:24] <DarkTrick> knome, @freecad, yes, @menu doing it now
[08:24] <DarkTrick> general question: is it usual, that this release is rather unstable?
[08:24] <DarkTrick> I can't even use vlc player anymore -> seg fault on video playback
[08:27] <DarkTrick> knome, what package is the menu? I thought xfce4-popup-whiskermenu, but ubuntu-bug says it's not installed
[08:27] <DarkTrick> so probably it's something else...
[09:15] <brainwash> DarkTrick: xfce4-whiskermenu-plugin
[09:26] <DarkTrick> brainwash, thank you.
[09:28] <Unit193> Curious, did you try newer whiskermenus?
[09:28] <DarkTrick> Unit193, no, just upgraded
[09:29] <DarkTrick> which is the latest version?
[09:29] <Unit193> 2.4.6
[09:30] <DarkTrick> 2.4.3 here
[09:30] <DarkTrick> probably just a matter of updating repos
[09:30] <DarkTrick> probably -> maybe
[09:31] <brainwash> what is the problem/bug?
[09:32] <DarkTrick> brainwash, bug after upgrade 19.10 -> 20.04 @ application menu: (1) open menu (2) search something (eg "office") (3) press arrow-down key (4) actual: nothing happens, expected: select first entry of menu
[09:32] <brainwash> I think that was fixed
[09:32] <brainwash> or at least it was reported already
[09:33] <brainwash> https://gitlab.xfce.org/panel-plugins/xfce4-whiskermenu-plugin/-/issues/8
[09:33] <ubot93> Issue 8 in panel-plugins/xfce4-whiskermenu-plugin "First down arrow key press after search ignored" [Closed]
[09:33] <brainwash> fixed a week ago
[09:33] <Unit193> Groovy has 2.4.5
[09:34] <DarkTrick> hm..
[09:34] <Unit193> I haven't yet backported to the PPA, was waiting for .6.  I can do that now though...
[09:34] <DarkTrick> is it worth then to open an "update-repo" request on launchpad?
[09:35] <DarkTrick> Unit193, I'm not sure what your last message means.
[09:35] <DarkTrick> that will fix the bug within the ubuntu repos?
[09:36] <Unit193> DarkTrick: Xubuntu team has a PPA that backports 4.14.x and panel plugins/etc.  non-development releases that go to Groovy.  I haven't yet updated whiskermenu in there, and was stating that I could do so (I noted I was waiting until .6 was uploaded to groovy)
[09:38] <DarkTrick> groovy = 20.10, focal = 20.04, I guess
[09:38] <DarkTrick> That mean, hopefully the bug is fixed with 20.10 after you backported
[09:38] <DarkTrick> (let me know if I'm wrong :) )
[09:39] <Unit193> Yeah groovy is development, backport would be to the PPA for focal.
[09:39] <DarkTrick> :)
[09:41] <DarkTrick> sorry, just to make sure: After the backport it will be in ubuntu repos and shared via general system update?
[09:41] <Unit193> Nope.
[09:42] <DarkTrick> so I'd file a "update package"-report on launchpad...
[09:42] <brainwash> !sru
[09:42] <ubottu> Stable Release Update information is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates
[09:42] <brainwash> read this
[09:44] <DarkTrick> I'm aware, that only special things get fixed. But 20.04 is going to be an LTS release... I think a bug in that place is pretty,pretty naster for UX
[09:45] <brainwash> is that the case? I mean did anyone report the bug on launchpad yet?
[09:45] <DarkTrick> well, the LTS is not out yet. I wanted to report it right after figuring it out.
[09:46] <brainwash> it has been out since April
[09:46] <DarkTrick> and there is https://gitlab.xfce.org/panel-plugins/xfce4-whiskermenu-plugin/-/issues/8
[09:46] <ubot93> Issue 8 in panel-plugins/xfce4-whiskermenu-plugin "First down arrow key press after search ignored" [Closed]
[09:46] <DarkTrick> so... yes?
[09:52] <brainwash> you can try your luck with a SRU then
[09:53] <DarkTrick> brainwash, is there an easy way to fix to problem for me? e.g. add the ppa of xubuntu and run a SW update?
[09:54] <brainwash> note that this would update other packages also
[09:54] <DarkTrick> :/ 
[09:54] <brainwash> maybe you don't want that
[09:55] <brainwash> so only update the whiskermenu package
[09:56] <brainwash> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archive/primary/+files/xfce4-whiskermenu-plugin_2.4.5-1_amd64.deb
[09:56] <brainwash> or try to install the groovy package
[09:57] <Unit193> Well, note .6 says: - Fix crash during grab check. (xfce4-whiskermenu-plugin Issue #19)
[09:57] <ubot93> Issue 19 in panel-plugins/xfce4-whiskermenu-plugin "Whisker menu hotkey disappears panel icon no start menu" [Closed] https://gitlab.xfce.org/panel-plugins/xfce4-whiskermenu-plugin/-/issues/19
[09:58] <brainwash> here's an example of a SRU
[09:58] <brainwash> bug 1886824
[09:58] <ubot93> Bug 1886824 in xfce4-whiskermenu-plugin (Ubuntu) "Search delay -> update to 2.4.4" [Undecided, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1886824
[11:19] <DarkTrick> brainwash, thank you for the link
[11:20] <DarkTrick> I think I'm not going the SRU
[11:27] <DarkTrick> is there a (e.g.) wiki page showing the PPA you mentioned above?
[11:28] <DarkTrick> I would (1) add the PPA (2) update whiskermenu only (3) deactivate PPA. As the version is higher than in official repos a sys update should not overwrite the newer version
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[23:27] <Unit193> Hrm, last I knew I didn't have permissions to create PPAs?