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 @mateosalta [nope, terms were changed not to allow, but I'm sure some semi controversial but …], The display of my PinePhone UBpCE running the latest UBports (non-factory) image started flashing while browsing reddit. Not sure what triggered it, but it may have been rotated into landscape and immediately back into portrait.
 For future reference, how do I pull a log?
 Forgot to mention that I'm on the stable channel.
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 Any one have note 7 pro ubuntu touch port rim
 Rom
 @zoomer296 [<reply to media>], Looks like a horror movie (oh my eyes)
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/Q0bJGcDa.webp
 I removed it. Strobe is very harmful to people with epilepsy. Also, I am not sure that posting large movies is helpful
 @Stereofont [I removed it. Strobe is very harmful to people with epilepsy. Also, I am not sur …], As long as you post it with a warning that theres a lot of flashing you should be alirght
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[11:04] <ubptgbot> <ma ma> hey everyone, does anyone know if there is contact to https://www.shiftphones.com/ ?? they do kind of the same as fairphone and state that they are using shiftOS  (android 8)
 @ma ma [hey everyone, does anyone know if there is contact to https://www.shiftphones.co …], No but its a good opportunity, will write them an email :)
[11:31] <ubptgbot> <ma ma> nice one! thanks! i made a knew topic in the forum https://forums.ubports.com/topic/4683/phone-vendor-shiftphone-potential-to-team-up-with-ut
 Hello comrades … I redesigned ubuntu touch in figma, tell me what you think about it? … may be worth removing, correcting or changing something? … thank you in advance … https://www.behance.net/gallery/101483677/Redesign-Ubuntu-Touch
 Looks nice
 Which device is it? Volla?
 @donkeykonger [Hello comrades … I redesigned ubuntu touch in figma, tell me what you think about …], I like the overall feeling, though I must admit that an always-visible launcher looks like a waste of space.
 @donkeykonger [Hello comrades … I redesigned ubuntu touch in figma, tell me what you think about …], fantastic ui
 Thank you very much!  … I will consider your opinion) … And I will still refine this project)
 @Kaizennn [Which device is it? Volla?], One plus 6
 @donkeykonger [Hello comrades … I redesigned ubuntu touch in figma, tell me what you think about …], niiiiice
 Guys, how about making a table like that of Linux mints, with donations who donated how much, so we will see progress
 That's a pretty smart idea   @Kaizennn  ^
 @donkeykonger [Hello comrades … I redesigned ubuntu touch in figma, tell me what you think about …], overall I like it, I agree with Alfred that an always visible launcher feels like wasted space.  I also feel like the toggles might be a bit big and cartoony, maybe shrink them like 5% or possibly a little less cause they are in a UI desi
[12:43] <ubptgbot> gned for fingers, and maybe make the centers a different color than the background, other than that good job
 Any one have kernal that support  Wifi adaptor supported for note 7 pro??
 Did ubuntu touch support Wifi adaptor ??
 Your device is not supported. Talk to whomever is working on the port, in the porting group instead. UT does not generally include drivers that the android kernel didn't
 @Qiangong2 [Can pidgin run on ubports without libertine?], you can package it in a click like this https://gitlab.com/Fusekai/Surfer/ you'll need at least a clickable.json, manifest.json a desktop file and an apparmor file
 @simylight [Guys, how about making a table like that of Linux mints, with donations who dona …], That is great idea but we are lack information yet :) @wayneoutthere
 @simylight [Guys, how about making a table like that of Linux mints, with donations who dona …], [Edit] That is great idea but we are lack of information :) @wayneoutthere
 "this will improve"
 @wayneoutthere [niiiiice], Thanks ))
 @wayneoutthere ["this will improve"], I can make up numbers if you want ;)
 i still think the launcher should be hidden cause we have the short swipe to access it :p
 @donkeykonger [Hello comrades … I redesigned ubuntu touch in figma, tell me what you think about …], Nice
 @Fuseteam [i still think the launcher should be hidden cause we have the short swipe to acc …], I still think the launcher AND the drawer should be fully visible because it is apps I am after. 😇
 Neverending story...
 Yeah. I know someone who will not be so happy 😹
 @Danfro [I still think the launcher AND the drawer should be fully visible because it is …], eeeeh? no way that would be clunky :P
 besides whether or not the launcher is hidden apps are always a single swipe away xD
 Add always show option problem solved
 nah that does add a layer of complexity to it, making it harder to maintain/troubleshoot :P
 But it's there for desktop
 recent phones are getting more and more strecthed out screens now
 horizontal space is expensive on them compared to vertical
 @Fuseteam [besides whether or not the launcher is hidden apps are always a single swipe awa …], One needless swipe.
 @Fuseteam [nah that does add a layer of complexity to it, making it harder to maintain/trou …], True, but I do not think we will cover all usecases without a switch.
 Just two different opinions based on different priorities. Qickaccess to apps or a nice view on the background image.
 Both right, none wrong.
 Current setup is a great compromise. Quick access to some apps (launcher) with as much as possible of the background visible.
 @NotKit [horizontal space is expensive on them compared to vertical], Sadly
 If there was a widget or something where you could pin two or three apps to the homescreen, not the sidebar, I think it would be more usable
 It just feels like a lot of dead space at the moment
 Or at least an analog clock
 why is it just gnome
 @dohbee [why is it just gnome], Wdym
 Also how do you say GNOME
 guh-nome
 @dohbee [guh-nome], Good
 i mean that behance is clearly the GNOME design in Ubuntu 20.04 with some fakery to make it look sort of reasonable for a phone
 I mean that gnome was meant to be like unity
 But not unity
 Hello guys, any OnePlus 3T users here? I would love to ask what is missing in Ubuntu touch port other then fingerprint. Is there difference in Ubuntu support from OnePlus 3?
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 @amyosx [But it's there for desktop], cue "ubuntu touch is not a traditional desktop" :P
 @Danfro [One needless swipe.], tbh i wouldn't say "needless" per se one swipe too many maybe. my counter argument to that is that it would function the same whether or not an app is open xD and no i'm not gonna say either vision is wrong just stating my view of it
 @amyosx [I mean that gnome was meant to be like unity], i wouldn't say that, the gnome guys are not interested in mobile design at all
 @Danfro [True, but I do not think we will cover all usecases without a switch.], ohw i do have an idea to cover both without a switch; four words "autostart app" and "launcher modular" … it doesn't have to be LM but tis an example
 @Fuseteam [i wouldn't say that, the gnome guys are not interested in mobile design at all], No as in Ubuntu desktop gnome
 There weird config
 @Fuseteam [i wouldn't say that, the gnome guys are not interested in mobile design at all], We wanted always to steer clear of Gnome mainly to the performance in rendering of controls and the claim that QML stuff is better suited for that. We need to minimize CPU cycles to not was te too much energy and at the same time deliver a nice UX
 ah was wonder about it ever since screen on time was mentioned
 so it more into minimizing cpu cycles hmmm
 @amyosx [No as in Ubuntu desktop gnome], that's why i said "i wouldn't say that" unity was made to eventually be convergent gnome is not :P … also unity had the HUD gnome has those ugly header bars
 @amyosx [No as in Ubuntu desktop gnome], [Edit] that's why i said "i wouldn't say that" unity was made to eventually be convergent gnome is not :P … also unity had the HUD gnome has those (ugly) header bars
 @Fuseteam [that's why i said "i wouldn't say that" unity was made to eventually be converge …], I hate gnomes ui
 and i like unity's ui
 ok
 or should i say lomiri xD
 arguing about gnome vs unity (lomiri) is off topic :)
 arguing? i don't think we're arguing perse :p
 but to be on topic flo mentioned something about cpu cycles and qt
 That statement is off topic too. ;)
 lol
 is it tho we are talking the cpu cycles on ut no?
 no?
 and come to think of it the gnome thing started due to the ut behence looking like gnome 😂
 it doesn't look like gnome. it is gnome
 @Flohack [We wanted always to steer clear of Gnome mainly to the performance in rendering …], this statement is not about ubuntu touch? really? 👀
 i don't know why flo said that
 lol how fun
 guess we'll have to ask him xD
 People confuse me
 it's not like UBports foundation made any such decisions about the design of Ubuntu on devices, considering it was Canonical creating it
 @Fuseteam [this statement is not about ubuntu touch? really? 👀], The statement was: People wanted us to implement more GNOME and we said no, among other reasons was the better performance of QML/Qt stack but I did not create that argument. I just believe in it ;)
 a lot of the lomiri stack is built on GNOME stuff anyway; it just uses qt/qml for the UI instead of GTK+
 Well people always referred to visuals. AFAIK
 @dohbee [a lot of the lomiri stack is built on GNOME stuff anyway; it just uses qt/qml fo …], well.....that's interesting
 well people who want gnome can go install pmOS with phosh or something
 @Fuseteam [well.....that's interesting], Like network-manager, or you look through https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects you might find other known names ^^
 ohw yeah that's true
 @dohbee [well people who want gnome can go install pmOS with phosh or something], PinePhone-only though
 @NotKit [PinePhone-only though], other things too. or pureos on librem. or on any phone if they want to deal with the problems of doing so. just because we aren't doing all the work for them to get such things working, doesn't mean they can't do it. it just means that Ubuntu Touch isn't what they want
 @Fuseteam [ohw i do have an idea to cover both without a switch; four words "autostart app" …], I remember during earlier stages of this discussion 😉 we already had this idea before. I like it very much. Be autolaunched app LM or Sprint or weather app or music. But I don't think this idea got anywhere. 🤔
 @Danfro [I remember during earlier stages of this discussion 😉 we already had this idea …], not yet hehe we need to work out what would be needed for such a "feature" and what can be considered reasonable on a mobile
 i mean unlike on desktop i would think it should be limited to a just one single app set by the user
 They did not publish on the blog the Q&A 80
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/cPR0Ib7K.webp
 @dohbee [well people who want gnome can go install pmOS with phosh or something], Mobian
 or manjaro arm :p
 @Fuseteam [or manjaro arm :p], Aren't they plasma
 and phosh and lomiri
 Oh cool
 @donkeykonger [Hello comrades … I redesigned ubuntu touch in figma, tell me what you think about …], Guys, it's just an icon that seems to be one used in GNOME, it's not gnome at all.
 The design seems quirky, it's true that launcher always on top is a missed opportunity of space. I don't even use the weather app in android or PC xD
 I would add transparency to the chat bubbles and maybe a wallpaper, that user could change in the settings, and never forget stickers, animated stickers rule
 But, the video in the weather app rocks. I know it can reduce performance
 But kicks that feature would kick iOS in the bottom
 [Edit] But kicks that feature would kick iOS hard, yeah that's sounds less offensive
 I posted about a problem I was having last night, but apparently the video failed to upload. I will address that real quick.
 [Edit] that feature would kick iOS hard, yeah that's sounds less offensive
 @zoomer296 [I posted about a problem I was having last night, but apparently the video faile …], it was deleted because it's a large video (57.8MB) with no warning about how it might trigger epilipsy attacks
 @dohbee [it was deleted because it's a large video (57.8MB) with no warning about how it …], Ah. My apologies.
 check that battery connections and everything are all good
 also you might want to ask in @utonpine instead, which is a group specific to ubuntu touch on pine
 @dohbee [also you might want to ask in @utonpine instead, which is a group specific to ub …], Will do.
 Also, I mean no offence by this, but a warning the first time would've been helpful. … Thanks for the work you guys are doing.
 @zoomer296 [Also, I mean no offence by this, but a warning the first time would've been help …], https://t.me/ubports/287929
 Ah. I missed it because of no @.
 Is ther a May to block a number in UT?
 *Way
 there's currently no call blocking in UT, no
 @Kaizennn [That is great idea but we are lack of information :) @wayneoutthere], In the sense?
 Thx
 @simylight [In the sense?], Idk when I create my own foundation for a great cause I would know.
 @b4thed4wn [Is ther a May to block a number in UT?], @b4thed4wn There is a non free app named F-Call PRO
 @Alexprox [They did not publish on the blog the Q&A 80], I was a little slow this time. It will arrive…
 @zoomer296 [Also, I mean no offence by this, but a warning the first time would've been help …], I removed that post. I didn't limit you in any way. The Welcome room is a good place to ask about any problems you are having
 @Stereofont [I removed that post. I didn't limit you in any way. The Welcome room is a good p …], I understand why it was removed, and I'm glad it was. There was just a bit of a misunderstanding at first as I didn't realize the initial upload was removed rather than failed. Messages get buried pretty quickly in this room.