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callmepkgood morning00:45
dufluMorning callmepk 01:22
callmepkmorning duflu 01:22
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didrocksgood morning04:33
oSoMoNgood morning desktoppers05:47
dufluOops05:54
dufluGood morning didrocks and oSoMoN 05:55
oSoMoNhey duflu05:55
jameshhi didrocks, oSoMoN, duflu 05:55
oSoMoNhey jamesh 05:55
dufluMy weekend was so long I forgot to check IRC occasionally05:55
oSoMoNit's happened to me more than once05:55
oSoMoNlike these days I forgot to connect to IRC altogether, and only realized towards the end of the day when thinking "what a productive day"05:56
oSoMoNsalut didrocks 05:57
didrockshey duflu, jamesh, salut oSoMoN 05:58
didrocksdisabling notifications worked for me some years ago!05:59
marcustomlinsonmorning callmepk duflu didrocks oSoMoN jamesh07:00
dufluHi marcustomlinson 07:01
callmepkhey marcustomlinson didrocks oSoMoN jamesh 07:01
jameshhi marcustomlinson, callmepk 07:01
jameshmarcustomlinson: I put in a request to add 'slots-per-plug: *' to gtk-common-themes and gtk-theme-traditionalhumanized, which should help test that autoconnect of multiple theme snaps actually works: https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/auto-connect-and-greedy-plug-behaviour-for-for-gtk-common-themes-and-gtk-theme-traditionalhumanized-snaps/19113?u=jamesh07:11
marcustomlinsonjamesh: excellent! thanks07:18
jameshmarcustomlinson: in theory it should mean installing the extra snap autoconnects to all existing apps, and gets autoconnected to future app snaps07:18
jameshhopefully practice matches theory07:18
marcustomlinsonyeah had a read07:19
marcustomlinsonjamesh: does this mean all theme snap developers need to make this request?07:20
jameshmarcustomlinson: yes.  Although once we have good automated review in place, it shouldn't require much bureaucracy07:21
jameshwithout a snap-declaration from the store, the content interface won't autoconnect across publishers07:22
marcustomlinsonmakes sense yeah07:23
didrockshey marcustomlinson, callmepk 07:38
seb128goood morning desktopers07:58
marcustomlinsonhi seb12807:58
seb128hey marcustomlinson, how are you?07:59
marcustomlinsonseb128: pretty good thanks, had a decent sleep for a change :) you?08:00
Laneymoin oin oin oin08:01
didrockshey seb128, ça va ?08:05
dufluMorning seb128 08:06
jibelsalut seb128 08:06
jibeland all08:06
dufluAnd hi jibel 08:06
marcustomlinsonhi Laney and jibel08:07
didrockshey hey Laney 08:07
Laney wb jibel!08:23
Laneyyou're looking sun tanned08:23
Laneymoin marcustomlinson & didrocks 08:23
seb128hey Laney, didrocks, duflu08:27
seb128wb jibel, did you have nice holidays?08:27
seb128marcustomlinson, I'm alright but could do with some extra sleep!08:27
* didrocks opens the weather forecast for the next days and close it08:29
didrockswant to time travel on Sunday08:29
jibelseb128, thanks. holidays were nice and much needed.08:29
seb128great :-)08:30
seb128didrocks, I don't remember, do you have a/c in the new house?08:30
oSoMoNgood morning callmepk, marcustomlinson, seb128, jibel, Laney 08:32
dufluHi Laney08:32
seb128lut oSoMoN!08:32
Laneysup seb128 oSoMoN duflu 08:37
didrocksseb128: we don’t, it’s 28 inside right now08:37
didrocksseb128: issue with the little one, who got fever yesterday :/08:37
didrocksseb128: ah, and same with the new one, no a/c08:38
seb128:-(08:43
Laneydidrocks: and nice big glass windows facing to the south?09:13
didrocksLaney: rrrrrrrrrrrright09:17
Laneygood for growing tomatoes!09:17
luna_morning 10:04
luna_FX 79 release day today 10:04
oSoMoNgood morning luna_ 10:21
oSoMoNI'm doing final validation of the Ubuntu packages for the RC, everything is on track10:22
seb128jamesh, hey, any idea how to debug bug #1889067 ?10:50
ubot5bug 1889067 in snapd (Ubuntu) "Error logging in snapd: (most recent call last): (snapd-error-quark, 10) when trying to log in from settings" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/188906710:50
seb128GoaBackend: WARNING: Error logging in snapd: (most recent call last): (snapd-error-quark, 10)10:50
jameshseb128: I'm not even sure what code this is.  Let me see.11:01
jameshseb128: I'm not sure where the "(most recent call last):" message comes from.  The "(snapd-error-quark, 10)" bit indicates this is SNAPD_ERROR_FAILED, which is the non-specific error produced by snapd-glib11:20
jameshseb128: I suspect this is the first line of a Python traceback from a service snapd is talking to, somehow truncated down and passed back to the client11:22
seb128jamesh, ok, thanks, I will try to check with Robert11:43
WimpressAfternoon desktopers13:31
oSoMoNhey Wimpress 13:31
Wimpressseb128: Do you want to drive this or shall I?13:31
didrockshey hey Wimpress 13:31
seb128Wimpress, I'm fine either way13:31
seb128feel free to do it if you are around13:31
WimpressSure thing.13:32
seb128thx13:32
hellsworthhi folks13:32
Wimpress#startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2020-07-2813:32
meetingologyMeeting started Tue Jul 28 13:32:16 2020 UTC.  The chair is Wimpress. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.13:32
meetingologyAvailable commands: action commands idea info link nick13:32
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WimpressRoll call:  didrocks, duflu, hellsworth, jamesh, ji_bel (out), ken_vandine (out), Laney, marcustomlinson, oSoMoN, seb128, tkamppeter, Trevinho, robert_ancell, callmepk13:32
oSoMoN🐼/13:32
seb128_o/13:32
marcustomlinson13:32
Trevinhoo/13:32
hellsworth\o13:32
jibelo/13:33
Wimpress#topic rls-bb-bugs13:33
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Wimpresshttp://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks13:33
WimpressLooks in hand.13:33
Wimpresshttp://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-tracking-bug-tasks.html13:33
WimpressEverything is assigned there.13:34
Wimpress#topic rls-ff-bugs13:34
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seb128wooot :)13:34
Wimpresshttp://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-incoming-bug-tasks.html13:34
WimpressAll fine13:35
Wimpresshttp://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-tracking-bug-tasks.html13:35
WimpressSome Unassigned but Fix committed.13:36
didrocks(magically fixed? :p)13:36
Wimpresshttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/virt-manager/+bug/187252713:36
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1872527 in spice-vdagent (Ubuntu Focal) "Clipboard doesn't work 100% of the time in Ubuntu 20.04 (in KVM guests)" [Undecided,Incomplete]13:36
seb128we already discuss that one and stated it was handled by the server team iirc13:36
didrocksyeah, the last comment from Christian13:37
WimpressI think that is the only one. 13:37
WimpressSo many unassigned fixes!13:37
didrocksghost devs13:38
Wimpress👻13:38
Wimpress#topic rls-gg-bugs13:38
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Wimpresshttp://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-incoming-bug-tasks.htm13:38
Wimpresshttp://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-gg-incoming-bug-tasks.htm13:38
Wimpresshttp://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-gg-incoming-bug-tasks.html13:39
Wimpress😊13:39
WimpressLooks good.13:39
Wimpresshttp://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-gg-tracking-bug-tasks.html13:39
WimpressAlso in good shape.13:40
Wimpress#topic update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages13:40
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Wimpresshttps://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages13:40
seb128I can handle that part13:41
WimpressAnthing in there anyone need help with?13:41
seb128not much in fact13:41
seb128the current issues on pygobject and software-properties are being handled by foundations afaik13:42
seb128firefox oSoMoN knows about it13:42
oSoMoNfirefox: I'm on the case, slow progress13:42
marcustomlinson13:42
seb128the other ones are new expected fun following the gcc10 landing and new icu transition13:42
seb128some usual libreoffice retries to be done on arm13:43
WimpressoSoMoN: Is that a new nodejs build regression?13:43
seb128and that's it13:43
oSoMoNWimpress, the new britney now blocks migrations from -proposed on build deps, and nodejs is a build-dep for firefox13:43
oSoMoNand nodejs is blocked on a bunch of reverse dependencies that need fixes for the new major version13:44
WimpressAh.13:44
oSoMoNthere are too many node-* packages in the archive, if you ask me13:44
seb128shotgun those out13:44
seb128:-)13:44
WimpressSame for golang-* IMO13:45
marcustomlinsonI've never heard anyone complain about "too many" node packages13:45
didrocks(vendorize all the things \o/)13:45
seb128and haskell ...13:45
Laneythis bloody 'distro'13:45
seb128Wimpress, I think we can move on to AOB :)13:46
Wimpress#topic AOB13:46
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WimpressAnyone have anything?13:46
jibelme13:46
jibelreminder: It's 20.04.1 this week13:47
jibelany help for testing is welcome13:47
didrocksRC is already out or are we waiting on a new respin?13:47
jibelthere is a respin coming with a new ubuntu-drivers13:47
seb128we should probably have a post on discourse about that?13:47
jibelbut it's almost there13:47
seb128would reach more people than the IRC meeting13:48
jibelyeah, I'll post something13:48
seb128thx13:48
WimpressI'll see what we can do to get more community involvemtn.13:48
jibeljust back from holidays, expect a small delay :)13:48
* didrocks will allocate some testing time once you give the go :)13:48
seb128didrocks, thursday, 16h? :p13:48
* seb128 hides13:48
didrocksseb128: exactly! :)13:49
WimpressAnything else?13:49
seb128sorry I think it's the heat, turning troll mode on today13:49
seb128I'm just going to mention that GNOME 3.37 rc is in 10 days13:49
seb128sounds like a good time to start onboarding with the new serie, so I will set up a trello board and start working on those updates, probalby next week, help is welcome as usual13:50
WimpressNice :-)13:50
WimpressOK, are we all done?13:50
seb128I think so13:50
WimpressThanks everyone!13:50
seb128thanks!13:50
Wimpress#endmeeting13:50
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meetingologyMeeting ended Tue Jul 28 13:50:58 2020 UTC.  13:50
meetingologyMinutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2020/ubuntu-desktop.2020-07-28-13.32.moin.txt13:50
didrocks(seb128: don’t complain about the heat, just looking at the temperature where you are :p)13:51
seb128Wimpress turned on the efficiency mode13:51
didrocksThanks!13:51
hellsworththanks!13:51
seb128didrocks, man, 27°C yesterday ...13:51
seb128ok, I hide again now :p13:51
marcustomlinsonnice one Wimpress13:51
didrocksseb128: less than what I have inside the appartment right now :p13:51
Laney20 in here14:15
Laneyquite nice14:15
seb128is anyone else having issues with the Canonical infrastructure?14:54
jibelnot me14:55
seb128k, I disconnected/reconnected the VPN and now it's fine14:57
seb128thx14:57
luna_this months all Firefox releases is done now15:15
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