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ubptgbot<matv1> thanks very much for that great Teleports update. Finaly makes my Pinephone that much more usable!00:14
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ubptgbot<bittin1> some UBPorts talk in this weeks LUP07:49
ubptgbot<bittin1> https://linuxunplugged.com/36407:50
ubptgbot<bittin1> 33 minutes in07:50
ubptgbot<Stereofont> @zoomer296 [I understand why it was removed, and I'm glad it was. There was just a bit of a …], They do. The forum is often a better place for a question or very specific advice. There, it can be picked up a week later and threads can develop08:22
ubptgbot<mark alexa> Can a caller blocking be implemented at some point on UT devices ? You can consider it a request feature. I've got this person keeps calling me and I want to block the person without having to change my number. Redirecting to voicemail would do but there's no such option specifically.09:40
ubptgbot<Stereofont> @mark alexa [Can a caller blocking be implemented at some point on UT devices ? You can consi …], The carrier may be able to help? I agree that in phone would be good. It has been discussed before. Confinement may be an obstacle? If we could assign ringtones you could select a silent one 😎09:43
ubptgbot<mark alexa> I searched how my carrier can help, the thing is carrier advice was applicable to Android and iPhones users only. UT is third-party mobile os not supported by major carriers. The only thing they could do is change the number.09:47
ubptgbot<Stereofont> Dual SIM is a good way to transition gradually09:49
ubptgbot<NotKit> technically it can be probably handled inside telephony-service09:49
ubptgbot<Stereofont> Harassment by phone is a criminal offence of course. Also could get their account closed09:50
ubptgbot<NotKit> there is in particular telephony-service-approver09:50
ubptgbot<NotKit> if anyone wants to dig into code, that is the relevant function: https://github.com/ubports/telephony-service/blob/xenial/approver/approver.cpp#L425 - it already fetches contact, so probably some kind of flag could be checked to avoid sound/vibration09:54
ubptgbot<Stereofont> If you switched your SIM to Android for a few days and blocked, maybe they would give up?09:56
ubptgbot<j2g2rp> @mark alexa [Can a caller blocking be implemented at some point on UT devices ? You can consi …], There is a app, but is closed source and unconfined. … I don't know if it works yet because my bq got broken and I didn't purchased it again for my nexus 5 . I don't know if it works on pinephone either. … http://f-call-dev.blogspot.com/11:31
ubptgbot<j2g2rp> @mark alexa [Can a caller blocking be implemented at some point on UT devices ? You can consi …], [Edit] There is an app, but is closed source and unconfined. … I don't know if it works yet because my bq got broken and I didn't purchased it again for my nexus 5 . I don't know if it works on pinephone either. … http://f-call-dev.blogspot.co11:31
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ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @NotKit [if anyone wants to dig into code, that is the relevant function: https://github. …], mark perhaps we should file a feature request on this repo? perhaps with the tip Thekit gave, that way we can track it better12:09
ubptgbot<NotKit> @Fuseteam project management is probably a better place12:10
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> actually there's a open issue about it https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/issues/73812:11
gitbotubports issue 738 in ubuntu-touch "Feature Request: Some way to ignore/silence nuisance/unwanted callers (such as custom ringtone per contact)" [Enhancement, Open]12:11
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> project management?12:11
ubptgbot<NotKit> The one you linked :)12:11
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> ah lol12:11
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> let's add the info to it xD12:11
ubptgbot<mark alexa> Guys, silencing the call isn't good enough. The caller needs to be redirected straight to voicemail.12:12
ubptgbot<NotKit> One step at a time I guess12:13
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> step 1 add your thoughts to the issue you get subscribed to it xD12:14
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> i am almost tempted to copy paste the link to the code TheKit mentioned 😂12:15
ubptgbot<arudy> @mark alexa [Guys, silencing the call isn't good enough. The caller needs to be redirected st …], Silenting without knocking out to the voicemail is good when you just want to pretant you were AFK and didnt silenced them (for your own reason)12:16
ubptgbot<arudy> @mark alexa [Guys, silencing the call isn't good enough. The caller needs to be redirected st …], [Edit] Silenting without knocking out to the voicemail is good when you just want to pretend you were AFK and didnt silenced them (for your own reason)12:16
ubptgbot<arudy> @mark alexa [Guys, silencing the call isn't good enough. The caller needs to be redirected st …], [Edit] Silencing without knocking out to the voicemail is good when you just want to pretend you were AFK and didnt silenced them (for your own reason)12:16
ubptgbot<mrcyjanek> @arudy [Silencing without knocking out to the voicemail is good when you just want to pr …], +112:17
ubptgbot<arudy> it's a feature my reason (my privacy) first :)12:18
ubptgbot<arudy> if i want to send to voicemail, just clic the red button :)12:18
ubptgbot<arudy> [Edit] it's a feature, my reason ,my privacy first :)12:18
ubptgbotMauricio Ardila was added by: Mauricio Ardila12:49
ubptgbot<malditobastardo> There is a paid app13:21
ubptgbot<malditobastardo> The one @j2g2rp linked13:21
ubptgbot<malditobastardo> Give it a try13:21
ubptgbotDmitriy was added by: Dmitriy13:42
ubptgbot<Dmitriy> How hard would it be to add ath9k usb-wifi adapters support ? Assuming that Android 3.x kernel is available ? Or where can I find halium-enabled kernels. Let's say device is `nexus 5` or `xiaomi x4 santoni`13:45
ubptgbot<Flohack> @Dmitriy [How hard would it be to add ath9k usb-wifi adapters support ? Assuming that Andr …], Here for N5 (note that this is Halium 7.1 kernel which is not yet released to public) https://github.com/ubports/android_kernel_lge_hammerhead/tree/halium-7.113:51
ubptgbot<Danqok> https://github.com/ubports-santoni13:53
ubptgbot<anpok> @ma ma [hey everyone, does anyone know if there is contact to https://www.shiftphones.co …], We received a few dev devices.. @NotKit had ut running to some degree14:00
ubptgbot<Dmitriy> @Flohack [Here for N5 (note that this is Halium 7.1 kernel which is not yet released to pu …], So it is matter of editing config file, run `make_defconfig.sh` and it should spit up new kernel which I should replace with my TWRP ?14:01
ubptgbot<anpok> So yeah there is contact..we are looking forward to their upcoming hardware..14:01
ubptgbot<gischpelino> I think call blocking on UT is a must have. *Feature request*14:02
ubptgbot<Dmitriy> @Danqok [https://github.com/ubports-santoni], Do you have by chance also kernel for Xiaomi Kenzo/Kate ? (Ideally with halium support)14:04
ubptgbot<Flohack> @Dmitriy [So it is matter of editing config file, run make_defconfig.sh and it should spit …], No, you need to run mka halium-boot from top level folder (after setting up the whole tree correctly). Android builds are a bit different than ordinary Linux kernel make14:08
ubptgbot<Flohack> because boot.img contains kernel + initrd stuff that brings up the rootfs14:09
ubptgbot<Danqok> https://github.com/sailfishos-kenzo but sailfish is using libhybris, not halium14:11
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @gischpelino [I think call blocking on UT is a must have. *Feature request*], please comment about it here https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/issues/73814:12
gitbotubports issue 738 in ubuntu-touch "Feature Request: Some way to ignore/silence nuisance/unwanted callers (such as custom ringtone per contact)" [Enhancement, Open]14:12
ubptgbot<Danqok> @Dmitriy [Do you have by chance also kernel for Xiaomi Kenzo/Kate ? (Ideally with halium s …], I own kate device (currently broken display), was trying porting before, but not many things worked. My repos: https://github.com/dano614:14
ubptgbot<Danqok> I dont know about anybody else working on it14:16
ubptgbot<ma ma> @anpok [We received a few dev devices.. @NotKit had ut running to some degree], ah okay, thanks for answer! so there was a contact to shiftphone before. there also is a topic in the UBports forum/general on this.14:18
ubptgbot<Dmitriy> @Danqok [I own kate device (currently broken display), was trying porting before, but not …], Understood, thank you!14:21
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> after hearing more about /e/ and some services they offer i wonder if the /e/ foundation and the ubports foundation can also collaborate to a certain degree14:23
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> [Edit] after hearing more about /e/ and some services they offer to users i wonder if the /e/ foundation and the ubports foundation can also collaborate to a certain degree14:24
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ubptgbot<anpok> The main dev is from austria.. maybe Flo already knows him14:32
ubptgbot<Flohack> @anpok [The main dev is from austria.. maybe Flo already knows him], Wut? No14:34
ubptgbot<Flohack> Let me get in touch with him 😆14:35
ubptgbot<dohbee> i thought it was estonia14:35
ubptgbot<Steve Kueffer> @gischpelino [I think call blocking on UT is a must have. *Feature request*], I do agree! Perhaps it’s possible to block incoming calls from specific numbers using a key sequence on the dialler as temporary workaround                                  , (ex: *#31+16784534*...) But I’m unable to find those keys on the web...15:32
ubptgbot<gischpelino> @Steve Kueffer [I do agree! Perhaps it’s possible to block incoming calls from specific numbers …], that one does not show your number to recipient. … Maybe tis helps, search web for 'gsm service codes'. … http://www.borgus.net/gsmkode.htm15:54
ubptgbot<Steve Kueffer> @gischpelino [that one does not show your number to recipient. … Maybe tis helps, search web for …], Oh great Thank you. That’s what I was looking for. Unfortunately there’s no key to bar a specific number...16:26
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ubptgbot<Flohack> @dohbee [i thought it was estonia], Confirmed he is Austrian 😆16:44
ubptgbot<zoomer296> One thing I've noticed with Ubuntu Touch during my time using it is that for an OS designed with phablets in mind, a lot of its controls are placed out of reach. … Is there any way we could get a back gesture on the bottom-right edge?17:02
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> then here's the question to you: what could be used as a back gesture?17:38
ubptgbot<dohbee> throwing the phone17:41
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> the idea of a way to "go back" has been discussed a couple of times but so far there has been no idea how to do it in the design in the os17:41
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> shaking the phone has been mentioned yes but no verdict on that iirc xD17:42
ubptgbot<dohbee> no, i mean like throwing your phone into a volcano17:44
ubptgbot<dohbee> go back, whence ye came, infernal beast17:44
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> I believe it's called a "yeet" nowadays17:45
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> lol17:50
ubptgbot<amyosx> @UniversalSuperBox [I believe it's called a "yeet" nowadays], YEEEEEEETTTT THOSE 'NADES18:00
ubptgbot<amyosx> @UniversalSuperBox [I believe it's called a "yeet" nowadays], [Edit] YEEEEEEETTTT THOSE 'NADES BOOOYYYYYSSSSS18:00
ubptgbot<amyosx> - my friend when we play PUBG18:01
ubptgbot<Flohack> @Fuseteam [shaking the phone has been mentioned yes but no verdict on that iirc xD], Now that I see rotation sensor is working how about a 90° rotate along z axis (the exis that goes along the long side of the device)? That would feel quite natural18:35
ubptgbotiifraz was added by: iifraz18:44
ubptgbot<mateosalta> @Fuseteam [the idea of a way to "go back" has been discussed a couple of times but so far t …], there is many diffrent ways of going back, within app, and within os navigation18:52
ubptgbot<mateosalta> so are we talking of within app - if we implement a second shortcut for the page navigation, this would perhaps only work with qml apps, maybe only ones using our toolkit18:53
ubptgbot<mateosalta> but if tracking app, and window navigation, you would need tracking of every movement18:54
ubptgbot<mateosalta> a 'chain' of navigation18:55
ubptgbot<mateosalta> but what do you do when hitting back after opening app? close it? navigate to blank screen, previous app?18:56
ubptgbot<dohbee> @mateosalta [so are we talking of within app - if we implement a second shortcut for the page …], it would have to be implemented in a way that synthesizes the "back" keypress18:57
ubptgbot<mateosalta> then you have the idea of back within the browser18:58
ubptgbot<mateosalta> erg, then i remember when chrome desktop linked 'backspace' to back...18:59
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> That is implemented in morph-browser as well19:00
ubptgbot<mateosalta> if you hit backspace a few times while editing text, it went to the previous page19:00
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> That was more a case of your cursor leaving the text field19:00
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> But yes, does exist.19:00
ubptgbot<mateosalta> so bad, happened many times on fill out forms for stuff19:01
ubptgbot<mateosalta> of course our gov stuff didnt implement properly - quote at the top said not to use the browsers navigation... or all work lost19:03
ubptgbot<dohbee> yeah computers are bad19:03
ubptgbot<mateosalta> i think apps handling it per app is good for now19:04
ubptgbot<mateosalta> rather that then something that works diffrently in diffrent situations, or not at all in some19:05
ubptgbot<mateosalta> but maybe there could be a uuitk hack that moves the header bar?19:08
ubptgbot<dohbee> no19:09
ubptgbot<mateosalta> not offically of course19:09
ubptgbot<dohbee> it's a bunch of c++ and stuff19:09
ubptgbot<mateosalta> would be an ugly mess19:10
ubptgbot<mateosalta> because most apps also have something else linked to the osk19:11
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @Flohack [Now that I see rotation sensor is working how about a 90° rotate along z axis (t …], could work why not? xD19:32
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @mateosalta [there is many diffrent ways of going back, within app, and within os navigation], and then there's that aspect19:33
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> tldr; is a not so easy to implement19:35
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> especially across different form factors19:35
ubptgbotyatman7117 was added by: yatman711721:30
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @mateosalta [i think apps handling it per app is good for now], actually this is a good point21:47
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> like say teleports could have it's own bottom swipe(which is currently unused) that includes a way to go back while that doesn't apply to morph21:49
ubptgbot<iifraz> Does Ubuntu Touch work on Redmi Note 8 Pro23:00
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> the only devices where it works in at devices.ubuntu-touch.io23:09
ubptgbotDanielS79 was added by: DanielS7923:09
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> any other devices will have to be ported by owners of the device in question23:09
ubptgbot<iifraz> 🙂 thx23:11
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> (Photo, 371x237) https://irc.ubports.com/9UAovJbU.png23:13
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> this deffo feels better worded now haha23:13
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> still a bit wordy but better23:13
ubptgbot<Flohack> @Fuseteam [<reply to media>], Great message!23:16

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