| didrocks | good morning | 05:14 |
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| jibel | good morning everyone | 05:18 |
| jibel | Salut didrocks, ça va? pas trop en train de fondre? | 05:19 |
| duflu | Morning didrocks and jibel | 05:19 |
| duflu | Also, back later | 05:19 |
| jibel | hi duflu | 05:19 |
| didrocks | jibel: salut ! le matin à 5h, ça va :) ça commence à chauffer là, mais bon, aujourd’hui, c’est un peu le répit avant jeudi/vendredi/samedi | 05:22 |
| didrocks | et toi ? | 05:22 |
| didrocks | hey duflu | 05:22 |
| jibel | didrocks, ça va bien. Content de retrouver la fraicheur bretonne. | 05:23 |
| oSoMoN | good morning desktoppers | 05:42 |
| didrocks | salut oSoMoN | 05:59 |
| oSoMoN | salut didrocks | 06:01 |
| marcustomlinson | morning desktoppers | 06:25 |
| callmepk | hi jibel duflu didrocks oSoMoN marcustomlinson | 06:29 |
| didrocks | hey callmepk! Congrats again :) | 06:32 |
| callmepk | didrocks, thanks! that fellowship is really a surprise to me | 06:34 |
| jamesh | congratulations callmepk | 06:39 |
| duflu | Morning oSoMoN, marcustomlinson | 06:40 |
| callmepk | Hi jamesh, thanks! | 06:40 |
| duflu | Afternoon and congrats callmepk | 06:40 |
| duflu | and afternoon jamesh | 06:40 |
| callmepk | Hi duflu , and thanks! | 06:43 |
| oSoMoN | good morning marcustomlinson, callmepk, duflu, jamesh, jibel | 06:44 |
| duflu | factorial(good morning) | 06:45 |
| seb128 | goood morning desktopers | 07:50 |
| duflu | Hi seb128 | 07:54 |
| didrocks | salut seb128 | 07:58 |
| Laney | yo | 08:01 |
| duflu | ello Laney | 08:03 |
| jamesh | duflu: I've been trying to get gdm up and running on an Ubuntu Core system without much success. I was wondering if you might have some pointers based on this log: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/42fQkhv64y/ | 08:03 |
| jamesh | it looks like it is having trouble switching virtual terminals, but I'm not sure which permission that indicates it's missing | 08:04 |
| duflu | jamesh, I know practically nothing about gdm. Probably Laney is the expert here | 08:04 |
| jamesh | Laney: ^^^ do you see any obvious culprits in that log? | 08:05 |
| duflu | jamesh, isn't the issue "VT_ACTIVATE failed: Operation not permitted" ? | 08:05 |
| duflu | Based on using 'chvt' I think you usually need to be root | 08:06 |
| duflu | or get the right privileges at least | 08:06 |
| jamesh | duflu: this is from doing a "sudo systemctl start gdm.service" with the standard 20.04 unit | 08:06 |
| Laney | I think you need CAP_SYS_TTY_CONFIG | 08:10 |
| Laney | anything in dmesg? | 08:10 |
| Laney | did you try wayland? | 08:10 |
| jamesh | Presumably wayland failed and it fell back to an X serssion. I didn't change the default config | 08:11 |
| jamesh | I wonder if some xattrs got lost when making the image? | 08:12 |
| jamesh | nothing in dmesg when I try to start gdm again | 08:13 |
| Laney | can you turn on gdm's debugging in /etc/gdm3/custom.conf? | 08:15 |
| Laney | and maybe arrange for G_MESSAGES_DEBUG=all to be set | 08:15 |
| Laney | I'm thinking something in the wayland attempt might be less inscrutable | 08:15 |
| didrocks | hey Laney | 08:15 |
| didrocks | seb128: do you mind subscribing desktop-packages to https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fonts-material-design-icons-iconfont ? | 08:15 |
| jamesh | lets see. I can probably bind mount a new version of the config file over the top | 08:16 |
| Laney | moin didrocks | 08:17 |
| jamesh | Laney: here's a log with debugging turned on: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/QTTCZVfWwr/ | 08:20 |
| seb128 | lut didrocks | 08:22 |
| seb128 | didrocks, | 08:22 |
| seb128 | o fonts-material-design-icons-iconfont: fonts-material-design-icons-iconfont | 08:22 |
| seb128 | [Reverse-Recommends: freetype2-doc (MAIN)] | 08:22 |
| seb128 | but freetype is owned by foundations | 08:22 |
| seb128 | so shouldn't it be there to subscribe? | 08:23 |
| seb128 | hey duflu, jamesh, Laney | 08:23 |
| didrocks | seb128: in similar cases in the past, it was desktop-team for the fonts | 08:23 |
| didrocks | so this is why I think we should do the same than other fonts package | 08:24 |
| didrocks | if you don’t want, happy to spend some time with foundations playing ping-pong | 08:24 |
| seb128 | I think we did for things which were pulled in by one of our packages | 08:24 |
| seb128 | not that I really care either way | 08:24 |
| seb128 | let me try playing pingpong while you are on holidays so you don't have to be bothered by it | 08:24 |
| didrocks | I don’t think this is a big load for fonts package, but just tell me what is your preferred way | 08:25 |
| didrocks | ack | 08:25 |
| seb128 | thx | 08:25 |
| didrocks | feel free to promote it once done :) | 08:25 |
| didrocks | (no MIR bug needed) | 08:25 |
| Laney | jamesh: huh, it just tried x immediately | 08:29 |
| Laney | is this a gdm you built? | 08:29 |
| jamesh | Laney: it's 20.04's gdm | 08:29 |
| jamesh | Laney: before it tries to start the X server, there is "gdm-launch-environment][1113]: GdmSessionWorker: could not take control of tty: Operation not permitted" | 08:29 |
| Laney | what's happened to it? somehow inserted into a snap? | 08:29 |
| Laney | I think it's going to come down to that stuff | 08:30 |
| Laney | apparmor does capability mediation doesn't it? | 08:30 |
| jamesh | I built a version of the core20 snap that includes GDM plus dependencies, then built an Ubuntu Core image that boots from that base | 08:30 |
| jamesh | It's just another service in the boot file system, so no special snap security policies | 08:31 |
| Laney | hmm | 08:32 |
| jamesh | Laney: I've also made /var/lib/AccountsService and /var/lib/gdm3 writable: I couldn't get as far as starting gdm without that | 08:35 |
| Laney | jamesh: Yeah, I'd have ~expected that | 08:45 |
| Laney | jamesh: try https://gist.github.com/iainlane/1277e2446e8503fc698f1a175fd4561f in ExecStartPre of the service or something? | 08:45 |
| Laney | I'm hoping that it's unavailable, and the question will be to figure out why | 08:46 |
| Laney | I don't have super loads of clue tbh | 08:46 |
| Laney | oh good, I got GNOME commit access back | 08:46 |
| jamesh | actually, I have an idea. It might be console-conf | 08:47 |
| seb128 | Laney, ah, you too :) | 08:47 |
| Laney | seb128: I was like "surely it hasnt been two years since I committed something" | 08:48 |
| seb128 | did you at least check the calendar to see that it was not 2022 and that you just had slept for that long? :p | 08:49 |
| jamesh | Laney: "systemctl mask console-conf@tty1.service" did the trick | 08:49 |
| Laney | never heard of that | 08:49 |
| Laney | is it some core thing? | 08:49 |
| jamesh | console-conf is the first-run Ubuntu Core setup tool | 08:49 |
| jamesh | it looks like it was holding /dev/tty1 open, preventing GDM from starting | 08:50 |
| Laney | ah | 08:50 |
| Laney | ok, that makes perfect sense | 08:50 |
| jamesh | one more thing to add to my readme | 08:51 |
| Laney | gdm already has Conflicts/After on getty@tty1.service | 08:51 |
| Laney | make a drop-in to add that other one too maybe | 08:51 |
| Laney | unless you need to run the wizard once to get a user ... | 08:51 |
| jamesh | in theory I should be able to get a user account created via a system-user assertion. Haven't got that working yet though, so I have been relying on console-conf to get a login | 08:53 |
| Laney | conflicting off stuff which wants to own gdm's tty is a sane thing to do in general | 08:53 |
| Laney | eventually you'd probably want to use gnome-initial-setup to do a similar job to the wizard | 08:53 |
| Laney | gdm has a "no users? run gnome-initial setup" codepath | 08:54 |
| jamesh | you're supposed to be able to put a removable drive with an "auto-import.assert" file containing signed instructions to create a user | 08:55 |
| Laney | sounds ok for a POC | 08:55 |
| Laney | once it works :> | 08:55 |
| jamesh | Laney: looks like I still have an X11 greeter session even when switching the VM to virtio-vga with virgil support. | 09:34 |
| jamesh | the X server logs seem to indicate it is using Virgil acceleration | 09:34 |
| Laney | I'd expect to see evidence of it at least *trying* wayland first | 09:44 |
| Laney | but the log you pasted just went straight to X | 09:44 |
| Laney | that's why I asked if you rebuilt it, because I was suspicious that the wayland support didn't get compiled in | 09:44 |
| Laney | perhaps I just forgot what the logs look like though | 09:46 |
| Laney | don't think virgl should preclude wayland, should it? | 09:48 |
| Laney | not that I've tried | 09:48 |
| jamesh | I was running with qxl as the vga device before: was wondering it it might be too stupid for Wayland | 09:49 |
| jamesh | and if virtio-vga/virgil might have more luck | 09:49 |
| Laney | qxl should be ok anyway: https://people.canonical.com/~laney/weird-things/qxl-wayland.png | 09:53 |
| Laney | if there's instructions for how to build this thing, ideally with a modified gdm, I could poke it at some point | 09:55 |
| Nafallo | hi guys! latest update to gnome-shell and gnome-control-center left the sound panel without any detected sound card. known bug? | 11:34 |
| oSoMoN | Nafallo, no other updates? | 12:13 |
| Nafallo | oSoMoN: not entirely sure when I restarted last time I'm afraid... | 12:29 |
| oSoMoN | Nafallo, I'd suggest filing a bug against gnome-control-center (using ubuntu-bug), and make sure to attach /var/log/apt/history.log | 12:30 |
| Nafallo | I'll corolate some logs :-) | 12:30 |
| seb128 | check in pavucontrol first if the devices are listed | 12:31 |
| seb128 | it seems more likely that pulseaudio isn't working | 12:31 |
| seb128 | rather than it being a gnome-control-center bug | 12:31 |
| Nafallo | looking at the changelog entry for pulseaudio this looks like exactly what was trying to be solved :-D | 12:34 |
| Nafallo | think you might be right seb128 :-) | 12:35 |
| Nafallo | downgraded pulseaudio, rebooting for good measure. brb. | 12:37 |
| Nafallo | nafallo@wendigo:~$ systemctl status pulseaudio.service | 12:43 |
| Nafallo | Unit pulseaudio.service could not be found. | 12:43 |
| Nafallo | that looks like a problem :-P | 12:43 |
| Nafallo | ah --user | 12:45 |
| fossfreedom | seb128: re bug 1889317 ... have to admit this is a new area for me. Your comment about default.list ... are you referring to a package dpkg-divert type thing? | 13:11 |
| ubot5 | bug 1889317 in file-roller (Ubuntu) "When clicking a .deb, file-roller gets launched ( instead of an installer for .deb )" [Low,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1889317 | 13:11 |
| oerheks | fileroller? that is not a bug, it is by design, AFAIK | 13:15 |
| seb128 | fossfreedom, I don't remember offhand but I think it uses XDG_DATA_DIRS | 13:16 |
| seb128 | fossfreedom, so I think you could ship your own version in /usr/share/<desktop>/applications/defaults.list | 13:17 |
| seb128 | fossfreedom, https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=defaults.list&mode=&suite=focal&arch=any | 13:17 |
| Nafallo | seb128: thanks for the pointing, filed #1889416 | 13:18 |
| seb128 | bug #1889416 | 13:18 |
| ubot5 | bug 1889416 in pulseaudio (Ubuntu) "pulseaudio.service: Start request repeated too quickly." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1889416 | 13:19 |
| seb128 | Nafallo, could you try to start | 13:19 |
| seb128 | $ /usr/bin/pulseaudio --daemonize=no --log-target=journal | 13:19 |
| seb128 | by hand and see if it prints any error? | 13:19 |
| fossfreedom | seb128: Interesting.... ok definitely never played in this area. Cheers. Going to see how budgie-desktop plays here. Just hoping that our heavy gnome dependencies doesn't get in the way here | 13:20 |
| Nafallo | seb128: nothing at all. just starts happily. | 13:21 |
| seb128 | fossfreedom, it shouldn't ... what's echo $XDG_DATA-DIRS on bugdie? | 13:21 |
| seb128 | Nafallo, is there an active instance already when you try to start the unit? | 13:21 |
| Nafallo | seb128: well, not when I try. you mean when it fails? | 13:23 |
| Nafallo | the failures is when I check after reboot and login. | 13:23 |
| seb128 | it's weird :-/ | 13:24 |
| Nafallo | after that I can start it manually with systemctl --user start pulseaudio.service | 13:24 |
| seb128 | did you try to downgrade to the preSRU version? | 13:24 |
| fossfreedom | seb128: /usr/share/budgie-desktop:/home/dad/.local/share/flatpak/exports/share:/var/lib/flatpak/exports/share:/usr/local/share:/usr/share:/var/lib/snapd/desktop:/var/lib/snapd/desktop | 13:24 |
| fossfreedom | ... so /usr/share/budgie-desktop/applications/defaults.list is worth a try | 13:24 |
| Nafallo | I can try again, just in case. | 13:25 |
| Nafallo | seb128: sudo dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/{libpulse,pulseaudio}*_1%3a13.99.1-1ubuntu3.4_a*.deb | 13:25 |
| Nafallo | that one? | 13:25 |
| seb128 | fossfreedom, right, try to just copy the /usr/share/applications/defaults.list there and edit the gnome-software line and see if it works | 13:25 |
| seb128 | Nafallo, well, the one you had before recent updates so probably yes? | 13:26 |
| Nafallo | yeah, that one then :-) | 13:26 |
| seb128 | fossfreedom, note that we do it with a file in /etc and a symlink so it's a conffile and it can be changed as such locally without being overwriting on upgrade | 13:26 |
| Nafallo | okay, rebooting again. brb. | 13:27 |
| Nafallo | seb128: this one works :-) | 13:28 |
| Nafallo | time to read the patch :-) | 13:30 |
| fossfreedom | seb128: cheers - that seems to have worked. We'll do the same with the /etc/ symlink idea. | 13:38 |
| Nafallo | seb128: Jul 29 14:59:18 wendigo pulseaudio[2728]: Failed to create secure directory (/home/nafallo/.config/pulse): No such file or directory | 13:41 |
| Nafallo | so for some reason the latest update break ext4 encrypted home directories ;-) | 13:42 |
| Nafallo | s/break/& on/ | 13:42 |
| seb128 | weird, the patch is basically a retry loop on an existing function | 13:45 |
| Nafallo | hmm. I guess the next step is to upgrade again and see if it's reproducable... | 13:48 |
| Nafallo | actually. looks like I got this with the lower version as well, but it kept restarting and succeeded before it gave up. | 13:52 |
| Nafallo | retried 4 times, and on the last attempt it started :-D | 13:53 |
| seb128 | so is that because it tries before the userdir is decrypted? | 13:59 |
| Nafallo | I believe so, yeah. | 13:59 |
| seb128 | k, so probably just not a regression, just timing and random | 14:00 |
| seb128 | could you add the details in the bug report? | 14:00 |
| Nafallo | pulseaudio breaks faster, and the retry counter reaches zero before it's decrypted :-) | 14:00 |
| Nafallo | yeah. better do that before I try to figure out how to add a condition to the service to wait for the home directory to be available :-D | 14:01 |
| Nafallo | what is it with assumptions in IT? :-P | 14:01 |
| Nafallo | okay, updated. | 14:05 |
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| luna_ | Installed Ubuntu on a non broken SSD | 17:21 |
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