[00:12] <lamiastella> I have installed latest version of MATLAB however after installation is complete, when I search for it in search bar I cannot find it. Could you please help how to fix it? Seems it is not on the path
[00:14] <sarnold> hopefully the installer would say where it put it; if it said nothing, look in /opt and /usr/local/
[00:20] <Bashing-om> lamiastella: sarnold Snap ? As I do not find in our rep. But, snap find matlab >> octave 5.2.0 ??
[00:21] <sarnold> Bashing-om: I figured lamiastella has bought a copy of matlab :)
[00:22] <sarnold> which is why I assume it had a moderately jankey installer
[00:22] <Bashing-om> sarnold: Your "assumtions" are always so right on :D
[00:22] <sarnold> Bashing-om: hah, not always; but it's surprising how often my guesses work out
[00:26] <lamiastella> I had to install it via a licensed link from university
[00:26] <lamiastella> it is installed in /usr/local now sarnold
[00:28] <lamiastella> sarnold: Bashing-om https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/VbfySnRwvC/
[00:29] <lamiastella> why didn't the installer add the path to ~/.bashrc and how should I do so?
[00:33] <lamiastella> worked $ sudo ln -s  /usr/local/MATLAB/R2020a/bin/matlab /usr/local/bin/matlab sarnold
[00:35] <lamiastella> any idea why the font on MATLAB GUI is super small? I barely can read it. Here's a screenshot of screen https://i.imgur.com/ZHFIGps.png
[00:36] <Bashing-om> lamiastella: Huh ? I expected "/usr/local/" to ne in the deafault path. what shows: sudo sh -c 'echo $PATH'
[00:37] <lamiastella> Bashing-om: that problem is solved I have a new problem. the fonts on the GUI are super small!
[00:37] <lamiastella> Bashing-om: /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/snap/bin
[00:41] <lamiastella> documented my question here https://askubuntu.com/questions/1262836/why-some-of-the-gui-fonts-are-so-small-in-ubuntu-20-04-and-how-to-fix-them
[00:42] <Bashing-om> lamiastella: Hard to say wbout the GUI - is a resolution set ? ' xrandr -d :0.0 --verbose ' . "*current +preferred" is what ?
[00:43] <lamiastella> I am not familiar with ' xrandr -d :0.0 --verbose ' . "*current +preferred" Bashing-om could you please share the full command line?
[00:44] <Bashing-om> lamiastella: ^ is the command - a lot of output - you want to see in a pastbin my result ?
[00:46] <lamiastella> Bashing-om: yes please
[00:48] <Bashing-om> lamiastella: Mine: https://termbin.com/re37 where I use a Nvidia card.
[00:56] <sarnold> Bashing-om: oh *strange* -- when I seearch for "current" on that page, I get exactly one hit; but when I search for "preferred" I see a second "current" that firefox couldn't find! waaat??
[00:57] <lamiastella> Bashing-om:  what is this a result of https://termbin.com/re37 what command did you enter?
[00:58] <Bashing-om> lamiastella: xrandr -d :0.0 --verbose .
[01:00] <lamiastella> Bashing-om:   3840x2160 (0x1e9) 573.410MHz +HSync -VSync *current +preferred https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/vdr9r8sQzG/
[01:01] <Bashing-om> sarnold: Got me too . Lemme see what a search of the terminal output reveals.
[01:02] <sarnold> welcome back irccloud, sheesh
[01:02] <sarnold> lamiastella: try this? https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/HiDPI#MATLAB
[01:05] <lamiastella> sarnold: awesome it worked
[01:05] <sarnold> lamiastella: yay :D
[01:06] <Bashing-om> !cookie | sarnold
[01:07] <sarnold> COOKIE!! NOMNOMNOM
[01:07] <WoC> heh :)
[01:07] <lamiastella> gave answer to my question by giving credits to you https://askubuntu.com/a/1262841/165324 sarnold
[01:08] <sarnold> oh yeah that looks actually legible now
[01:13] <Bashing-om> sarnold: ^^ *Current and +preferred in my output I find only one instance of each.
[01:15] <sarnold> Bashing-om: Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1600 x 900, maximum 16384 x 16384
[01:15] <sarnold> Bashing-om:   1600x900 (0x67) 118.250MHz -HSync +VSync *current +preferred
[01:15] <ntiy> hello #ubuntu. Anyone here is using mate desktop environment? Do you know if there is a way to import color themes for mate-terminal?
[01:15] <sarnold> hmm, funny, *now* firefox can find both instances of 'current'
[01:16] <Bashing-om> sarnold: Yup that is mine.
[01:16] <Spiffdaddy> !topic
[01:17] <Bashing-om> ntiy: Any hints here: https://www.maketecheasier.com/mate-review/ ?
[01:20] <ntiy> Bashing-om, thank for link, but it doesn't have much to address my question
[01:21] <lamiastella> is there a way for me to figure if the laptop hardware is damaged or is it a driver problem for the audio? It is a gaming laptop from SAGER priced at 2800$ bought in October 201. It always had a noise problem (lots of jitter)
[01:22] <lamiastella> *October 2019
[01:23] <lamiastella> the sounds are kind of like echoish
[01:23] <sarnold> oh strange, I haven't heard that one before
[01:23] <Bashing-om> ntiy: Mate is not in my experience range - if get no response here maybe try Mate's dedicated channel: #ubuntu-mate ?
[01:23] <sarnold> if you don't make progress on it, you could try the folks in #lau
[01:24] <lamiastella> the problem is same in Windows
[01:24] <ntiy> Bashing-om, thanks again. I've asked at #mate, will wait may be someone answers there. Thought I'll try here as well )
[01:25] <sarnold> lamiastella: oh :( that's not encouraging :(
[01:45] <quazimodo> i created a nested seat using lightdm's dm-tool
[01:45] <quazimodo> how do i destroy it?
[01:47] <quazimodo> nvm
[02:03] <lamiastella>  I installed Ubuntu 20.04 alongside with Windows 10. However, when I restart, it only shows me the Ubuntu and recovery Ubuntu. How can I login to Windows now?
[02:08] <Bashing-om> lamiastella: In the ubuntu install ' sudo update-grub ' does it now pick up the Windows install ?
[02:10] <lamiastella> I'll try and let you know Bashing-om thanks
[02:26] <lamiastella> Bashing-om:  so I used that command and it told found windows in boot option but when I restarted it wasn't found
[02:26] <lamiastella> and I am back to Ubuntu Bashing-om
[02:29] <Bashing-om> lamiastella: Well, how are you booting up ? - maybe there is more than the one boot menu option ?
[02:34] <gnoob> um, can you see your windows drives while inside linux?  Are the partitions still there?
[02:35] <gnoob> Hopefully they were not overwritten?
[02:36] <lamiastella> I am just using the restart button how else do you suggest to get into boot options? Bashing-om
[02:37] <lamiastella> gnoob: how can I see them?
[02:37] <lamiastella> gnoob: I used the option 'install ubuntu alongside windows'
[02:38] <Bashing-om> lamiastella: No real idea - as with modern machines it is EFI and each manufacturer implements different.
[02:38] <EriC^^> lamiastella: type 'sudo parted -ls | nc termbin.com 9999' and paste the link here
[02:46] <lamiastella> EriC^^: https://termbin.com/2anv4 thank you
[02:48] <sarnold> oh strange; that looks like several different installs... /dev/sda looks like it has a legacy windows, a legacy linux; /dev/nvme0n1 looks like it has an EFI windows install
[02:48] <sarnold> there may not be a happy way to boot all three operating systems
[02:49] <lamiastella> sarnold: yeah the laptop came with a preinstalled Windows 10. I am not sure how I could find windows 10 now
[03:01] <gnoob> EriC^^: that command will output your terminal directly to a that termbin page?
[03:01] <gnoob> that's crazy
[03:04] <sarnold> gnoob: not the terminal, just the stdout of the command
[03:05] <gnoob> sarnold: understood.
[03:29] <lamiastella> EriC^^: any solution in your opinion? https://askubuntu.com/questions/1262861/i-installed-ubuntu-20-04-alongside-windows-10-but-now-windows-in-not-shown-in-bo
[05:35] <b247_eu> Hi, I have this problem: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-screensaver/+bug/1889277, anyone here can give me a hint on how to solve/debug?
[07:32] <RadSurfer> DOES anyone know how to give an SD card a Label?
[07:32] <blue_rog> RadSurfer: https://askubuntu.com/questions/868894/how-to-name-an-sd-card
[07:33] <RadSurfer> hopefully not only at time of formatting...
[07:33] <blue_rog> Have you tried gparted though?
[07:33] <Conqueror> Hello, I have Jetson nano and am having problems with ssh service. Namely, my Jetson nano does not provide SSH from the other machines unless I login to the GUI. Jetson runs on Ubuntu 18.04.4 LTS and how can I solve this problem? Thanks in advance.
[07:33] <blue_rog> And if you have, has it raised any error
[07:34] <Conqueror> Even if I do not login, I cannot even ping the machine from the same network...
[07:35] <blue_rog> What does the ssh error message say when you try to ssh?
[07:37] <Conqueror> blue_rog: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/3yKTr27NSn/
[07:40] <blue_rog> Are you running openssh-server by chance.
[07:44] <Conqueror> blue_rog: As I said, If I login to the Jetson via GUI, all is well. But, jetson is rebooted or something like that, I couldn't to the SSH...
[07:45] <Conqueror> blue_rog: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/97CJzVY9pm/
[07:46] <Conqueror> blue_rog: ssh from jetson for you :)
[07:47] <blue_rog> Conqueror: can you ping it
[07:47] <Conqueror> blue_rog: ping what?
[07:48] <blue_rog> ping the jetson
[07:48] <Conqueror> from the local machine?
[07:48] <blue_rog> Yse
[07:48] <blue_rog> Yes
[07:48] <blue_rog> It's possible that your jetson's firewall is blocking things
[07:48] <Conqueror> blue_rog: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/XFRcP8HVBJ/
[07:49] <blue_rog> Okay so login via the gui
[07:49] <Conqueror> yep
[07:49] <blue_rog> However you did before
[07:50] <blue_rog> And make ufw allow for 22/tcp
[07:51] <Conqueror> It does not have ufw. root@jetson:/home/jetson# ufw status verbose // bash: ufw: command not found
[07:51] <blue_rog> install ufw
[07:51] <Conqueror> Why?
[07:52] <Conqueror> I just want to SSH from my machine. It does not the firewall..
[07:52] <blue_rog> To check if the ssh route is blocked.
[07:54] <Conqueror> Who or what can block ssh without any firewall?
[07:56] <Conqueror> I think we should configure ubuntu to run all services without login.
[07:56] <lupulo> the another day i test the installer of ubuntu 20.04 and it fails after create the partitions
[07:56] <lupulo> it does a report and restart from language selection
[07:56] <tatertotz> Conqueror: that could be the way Jetson functions by design...check with Jetson community, forums, mailing lists, and chat rooms
[07:57] <tatertotz> Conqueror: until you do, you have no evidence that suggests it should operate in any other way
[08:19] <lupulo> the another day i test the installer of ubuntu 20.04 and it fails after create the partitions, , it does a report and restart from language selection. i tried to update the installer to next language selection but nothing
[08:20] <lupulo> if the partition is not gpt, it gives a error with json or something
[08:20] <lupulo> but it is another problem
[08:43] <Conqueror> tatertotz: I guess the problem is GDM... Namely, I set the AutomaticLoginEnable true on GDM configuration, after that, I rebooted the Jetson and I am able to connect Jetson via SSH but this time problem is connected screen in the Jetson :D
[09:18] <LordChaos> help
[09:19] <LordChaos> Sorry, trying to switch between buffers on Weechat
[09:31] <sine0> hey, I need to update my remove server I have only cli, I normally do things in tmux in case i disconnect etc (which i do alot) I just wondered what happens if tmux is part of what gets updated
[09:32] <LordChaos> sine0: you could use screen instead
[09:32] <sine0> ok but my question still stands
[09:32] <sine0> replace tmux with screen
[09:33] <LordChaos> sine0: I don't think nothing will happen, the process will still run I guess
[09:33] <sine0> ok, well im guessing as well, I just wanted to know.
[09:34] <sine0> I have done it before, but it was just one of those hmmm type questions in my head
[09:36] <sine0> VERSION="18.04.3 LTS (Bionic Beaver)"
[09:36] <sine0>  Kernel: Linux 4.15.0-112-generic
[09:36] <quadrathoch2> sine0 yeah tmux still runs (because it's in memory) and the underlying executable gets exchanged. so the next time you run tmux, it's the newer version (but the old session is still the old version)
[09:37] <sine0> quadrathoch2: roger that. shall I do apt-get upate && apt-get upgrade
[09:38] <quadrathoch2> normally I use apt than apt-get but yes
[09:38] <sine0> what is the difference between apt and apt-get
[09:38] <sine0> am I conditioned from just typing that when installing bins and the correct way is to apt *
[09:40] <quadrathoch2> apt has a nicer output, doesn't cache packages and is the recommended way. the only thing apt-get is better at is the script interface is better
[09:49] <sine0> quadrathoch2: do you know how much more 18.04 has LTS for
[09:50] <quadrathoch2> about 3 years
[09:50] <quadrathoch2> (and then payed support)
[09:53] <cariveri> Hi. Does anyone know a way to add audio files to pdf slides?
[09:54] <LordChaos> cariveri: as in a PowerPoint presentation?
[09:54] <tatertotz> I have never seen audio or video clips in a PDF
[09:54] <LordChaos> tatertotz: me neither
[09:54] <tatertotz> a PDF is electronic "document" format
[09:55] <tatertotz> so there must be some confusion
[09:55] <tatertotz> cariveri: audio doesn't belong in a PDF, PDF is a electronic "document" format
[09:59] <olegb> cariveri: I guess the obvious answer is to use something like: https://helpx.adobe.com/acrobat/using/rich-media.html - but since this is a Ubuntu channel I guess you would like to do this with Ubuntu, right?
[09:59] <cariveri> LordChaos: as in LibreOffice Impress . that works like a charme. The exported pdf does not seem to provide working audio.
[10:00] <cariveri> olegb: in deed in ubuntu.
[10:00] <LordChaos> cariveri: I don't think audio is supported in a pdf file, neither is video I think. They can't be embedded if that's what your looking after.
[10:02] <cariveri> LordChaos: https://youtu.be/hwLOdLlarBE?t=157
[10:03] <olegb> cariveri: I would try to fiddle with pandoc: https://pandoc.org/MANUAL.html - but I dont know If it will work *smile*
[10:04] <cariveri> hmm. seem I would have to revert to the idea of using latex and embed the sound from there, or produce a screencast of the slide show.
[10:08] <LordChaos> cariveri: interesting
[10:09] <LordChaos> cariveri: can't you do this with Impress?
[10:12] <cariveri> Oh. it worked! The exported audio is played back, embeded in the pdf. nice.
[10:14] <cariveri> somehow after installing okular it worked. I guess it was adding some dependencies.
[10:33] <DrSlony> Hey, when I 'sudo apt update' it fails because: W: An error occurred during the signature verification. The repository is not updated and the previous index files will be used. GPG error: https://packages.gitlab.com/gitlab/gitlab-ce/ubuntu xenial InRelease: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 3F01618A51312F3F
[10:33] <DrSlony> how do I fix that?
[10:37] <quadrathoch2> DrSlony you would need to add the gpg key
[10:38] <coconut> ... or comment out the line in sources.list you added
[10:42] <DrSlony> quadrathoch2 coconut thanks, solved
[10:42] <DrSlony> now, someone has been messing on this server, and there is a problem with mysql
[10:42] <DrSlony> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[10:42] <DrSlony>  mysql-server : Depends: mysql-server-5.7 but it is not going to be installed
[10:47] <shibboleth> ub version?
[10:48] <coconut> DrSlony, have you checked whether your repo sources is still ubuntu default?
[10:53] <DrSlony> coconuthmm no, how do i do that? im not familiar with ubuntu
[10:54] <DrSlony> shibboleth Ubuntu 16.04.6 LTS
[10:56] <shibboleth> well, 5.7 is the version carried by xenial
[10:56] <shibboleth> check /var/log/apt/history and see what's been going on
[11:04] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[11:15] <DrSlony> shibboleth what repo sources should 16.06.6 have? where can in find this info?
[11:18] <shibboleth> https://paste.debian.net/hidden/24907d80/
[11:18] <DrSlony> thanks shibboleth
[11:41] <DrSlony> Another daft question, how do I list all available versions of some program?
[11:42] <DrSlony> i mean full packages names with version, so i know how to install that specific version
[11:42] <DrSlony> `apt list -a foo` lists versions only, not full package names
[11:43] <Peanut> DrSlony: apt info <packagename> ?
[11:43] <DrSlony> Peanut `invalid operation info`
[11:44] <Peanut> DrSlony: But generally, there's only one version of a package available.
[11:44] <DrSlony> hmm
[11:44] <Peanut> DrSlony: Oh, you must be on an older Ubuntu? Try 'apt-get info'
[11:45] <DrSlony> apt-get info gitlab-ce
[11:45] <DrSlony> E: Invalid operation info
[11:46] <DrSlony> apt-cache search gitlab-ce
[11:46] <DrSlony> gitlab-ce - GitLab Community Edition (including NGINX, Postgres, Redis)
[11:46] <DrSlony> no versions
[11:46] <DrSlony> gitlab-ce tells me that i may not upgrade directly to the latest version 13.2.1, I must first upgrade to 13.0.x
[11:47] <Peanut> DrSlony: apt-cache show <pkgname>, just double-checked that for you on a 16.06 machine.
[11:47] <geirha> apt-cache policy gitlab-ce
[11:48] <DrSlony> apt-cache show gitlab-ce shows there is a version '13.0.0-ce.0'
[11:48] <DrSlony> but how do i install that?
[11:48] <Peanut> DrSlony: Does apt-cache policy show more than one version?
[11:49] <DrSlony> https://paste.ee/p/kAhzc
[11:49] <DrSlony> Peanut yes, see the link
[11:51] <Peanut> DrSlony: try apt-get install gitlab-ce=13.0.0-ce.0
[11:52] <DrSlony> yay, that works! thank you
[11:52] <DrSlony> wow, not very intuitive
[12:28] <bryanroderyck> hello ubuntu can someone help me installing a printer driver ?
[12:32] <EriC^^> !ask | bryanroderyck
[12:34] <bryanroderyck> hi im using ubuntu 20.04 lts and my cannon printer mg2545s is not working
[12:35] <auxin> kubuntu overwrote some of my zfs pools and my bootloader and I am upset about it.
[12:36] <auxin> how can I approach this issue, when zpool.cache was deleted.
[12:36] <auxin> I don't want to and did not intend to lose data
[12:36] <Peanut> auxin: Were the pools overwritten, or just zpool.cache? Can you do 'zpool import' ?
[12:36] <auxin> the installer damaged the partition table
[12:36] <oerheks> bryanroderyck, bad luck; Unfortunately your device is no longer supported under the selected operating system
[12:36] <auxin> and has since mounted the partitions
[12:36] <oerheks> https://www.canon-europe.com/support/consumer_products/products/fax__multifunctionals/inkjet/pixma_mg_series/pixma_mg2545s.html
[12:37] <auxin> I cannot do zpool import from here
[12:37] <bryanroderyck> i just bought this printer few days ago
[12:38] <Peanut> auxin: Ouch, if it damanged the partition table, and actually overwrote stuff, recovery may be difficult. Was it a pool with redundancy, and how many vdevs were affected?
[12:38] <LordChaos> bryanroderyck: what does "not working" mean exactly?
[12:38] <auxin> 1 was affected 2 were unaffected
[12:38] <auxin> thank you for your attention
[12:38] <LordChaos> Is the printer not detected for instance?
[12:39] <tryauuum> question that is hard to google due to many ancient results: can I still use /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules on 20.04 focal fossa? provided that I do not mess with kernel commandline option and use default options.
[12:40] <Peanut> auxin: Might still be fixable, you could try a netboot, do a zpool import, and then resilver the array. That does of course undo whatever xubuntu did, but I guess that's what you want for now.
[12:40] <bryanroderyck> it adds driver for the printer mg 2500 ..but when printing is run a messages says "could not start your printing"
[12:41] <tryauuum> I mean it's systemd anyway who is doing all renaming, does it matter if I do renaming with .link files or old persistent-net.rules?
[12:42] <bryanroderyck> LordChaos, any idea
[12:43] <LordChaos> bryanroderyck: did you install the printer yourself?
[12:43] <bryanroderyck> yes
[12:44] <LordChaos> Did you use the cups interface to do that?
[12:45] <bryanroderyck> no cups interface .its add the driver throught the setting
[12:46] <oerheks> canon does not provide drivers, maybe you are lucky with this ppa, fork from michael gruz (canon)  https://launchpad.net/~thierry-f/+archive/ubuntu/fork-michael-gruz
[12:47] <LordChaos> bryanroderyck: not sure what you mean by that. But could you remove the printer for now, make sure it is turned on and install it through the cups webinterface on https://localhost:631?
[12:49] <bryanroderyck> LordChaos, can you guide me with the cup.
[12:52] <zethius> Any GPU utilities you can install on Ubuntu or Linux in general to go with your graphics card?
[12:52] <LordChaos> bryanroderyck: well, you need to login first.
[12:52] <oerheks> zethius, for what GPU? nvidia installs -settings
[12:53] <zethius> AMD Ryzen
[12:53] <LordChaos> bryanroderyck: and then add a printer, but cups should detect it.
[12:53] <bryanroderyck> LordChaos, where do i log in?
[12:54] <oerheks> zethius, amd ryzen + amdgpu ?
[12:54] <zethius> I'll run neofetch and copy and paste both
[12:54] <oerheks> for AMD; no need for settings, it is supported in the kernel now
[12:55] <zethius> Sorry! Not Ryzen
[12:55] <zethius> Not Radeon
[12:55] <zethius> *Radeon is the one I have
[12:56] <auxin> Peanut, thank you, I managed to import the pool zroot, I see it's DEGRADED and one of the devices is unavailable.
[12:56] <auxin> what does it mean to resilver an array?
[12:57] <LordChaos> bryanroderyck: https://localhost:631 on your machine
[12:57] <bryanroderyck> LordChaos, i dont have password
[13:01] <bryanroderyck> LordChaos,
[13:02] <Peanut> auxin: Resilver means that ZFS will read all the disks, verify the checksums, and will repair the damaged disk by using the data from the good disks. However, make sure your partition table is back to its original form before you do that.
[13:02] <oerheks> if cups ask for password, just your user pass
[13:03] <bryanroderyck> is site secure?
[13:03] <LordChaos> bryanroderyck: it's a daemon running in your own machine with a self signed certificate
[13:04] <oerheks> it is not a site, just a webpage of your local cups printer server
[13:04] <LordChaos> oerheks: thanks for clarifying
[13:04] <bryanroderyck> ok im trying now
[13:04] <oerheks> LordChaos, help him with that ppa, please
[13:04] <LordChaos> bryanroderyck: login with your own account, you should be in the lpadmin group
[13:05] <oerheks> canon is not cooperative with linux
[13:05] <LordChaos> oerheks: I have a Canon printer myself, works flawlessly. But his might be an issue, we'll see.
[13:09] <bryanroderyck> oerheks,  where do i get my username
[13:13] <bryanroderyck> suceeded ,but dont find my model of printer in the list
[13:14] <ledeni> bryanroderyck: what is your model for printer
[13:14] <bryanroderyck> mg2545s
[13:16] <oerheks> canon does not provide drivers, maybe you are lucky with this ppa, fork from michael gruz (canon)  https://launchpad.net/~thierry-f/+archive/ubuntu/fork-michael-gruz
[13:16] <oerheks> bryanroderyck, ^^
[13:17] <bryanroderyck> :)
[13:18] <auxin> can I access a geli device on ubuntu?
[13:19] <bryanroderyck> after installing the ppa hat must be done?
[13:20] <oerheks> auxin, geli as in geli BSD encryption?
[13:20] <auxin> oerheks: yah
[13:20] <oerheks> ubuntu uses luks, you might want to try with a VM
[13:21] <oerheks> https://www.reddit.com/r/freenas/comments/6c7gk5/geli_encrypted_disks_on_linux/
[13:30] <abdulhakeem> I'm trying to create a torrent and seed it, but when I load the .torrent into Transmission, it tries to download the data instead of seed it. But of course, it can't download anything because tehcnically there's nothing seeding yet. What am I missing?
[13:30] <abdulhakeem> I don't want it to download anything I want it to seed
[13:32] <rr123> is there a way when my cursor is moved to a window it will not only be activated, but also show front
[13:32] <rr123> e.g. two windows tiled if I move my cursor to the edge of the hidden one, it will move to the top without mouse-click
[13:37] <rr123> http://xahlee.info/linux/mouse_hover_auto-raise_window.html  i.e. "raise windows when the mouse pointer moves over them"
[13:43] <rr123> gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.wm.preferences auto-raise true
[13:43] <rr123> the above magic cmd will do it, cool
[14:23] <linuxr> hello anyone..so I've just had this situation where my 4 gigs of memory were exhausted because of firefox, resulting in a complete system freeze. How can this happen in 2020? How can one single process take all the memory and not being prevented by the OS?
[14:24] <lotuspsychje> linuxr: wich version of ubuntu are you using?
[14:24] <linuxr> lotuspsychje, Ubuntu 20.04 LTS
[14:24] <oerheks> must be firefox with multiple tabs open?
[14:25] <lotuspsychje> linuxr: gnome is more adviced to run with 8GB ram, unless you go tweaking your system real profound
[14:25] <linuxr> yes, firefox is a bloat whore, even even more so are thousands of websites with gigabytes of unnecessary bloat..but still..why does the OS not prevent this and kill the process before it's killed by the process?
[14:25] <oerheks> so, it is not one single process..
[14:26] <linuxr> It was firefox..clearly..without firefox, my system barely uses any memory
[14:26] <linuxr> what about OOM killer?
[14:26] <linuxr> why didn't that work?
[14:27] <Geniack> hello, i just got hold of a mobile display which uses USB-c to connect to my laptop... its working fine under windows, when i connect it under ubuntu i see in dmesg "usb root hub lost power or was reset", can anyone point me in a direction to solve my issue?
[14:27] <oerheks> linuxr, nobody can answer that, it must be caused by websites, .. maybe the new 3rd party cookie blocker is the issue
[14:30] <lotuspsychje> Geniack: wich graphics card chipset and driver version are you using?
[14:31] <Geniack> lotuspsychje: having an optimus device here, usually my graphics is set to use the internal intel chipset
[14:31] <Geniack> let me check which one it is
[14:31] <lotuspsychje> linuxr: try lubuntu 20.04 might have positive influence for your hardware
[14:32] <Geniack> intel UHD 630
[14:32] <lotuspsychje> Geniack: did you try to switch to performance mode yet as a test for that display?
[14:33] <Geniack> lotuspsychje: i only know of the "prime-select" command which allows me to switch, what is performance mode?
[14:34] <lotuspsychje> Geniack: from nvidia-settings you can switch the optimus/prime setting powersaving vs performance mode
[14:34] <Geniack> but i am not even using the nvidia card right now?
[14:35] <lotuspsychje> Geniack: but you said you are using a hybrid card intel/nvidia right?
[14:35] <Geniack> yes but its basically never set to nvidia as long as i am on ubuntu
[14:35] <Geniack> so i was wondering if nvidia setting will affect my intel chip?
[14:36] <lotuspsychje> Geniack: well setting it on performance mode will enable your nvidia, unless you disabled it via bios or so?
[14:36] <linuxr> lotuspsychje, when I tell you that firefox was the problem, why should switching the Desktop Environment help?
[14:37] <Geniack> lotuspsychje: naw its enabled in bios, just not selected in prime select... but now i get it, performance mode will overwrite that prime-select setting? and maybe it helps in not shutting down the display, i will try that
[14:38] <lotuspsychje> Geniack: its just as a test
[14:38] <lotuspsychje> linuxr: Firefox exhausting your full system making it freeze..i'm not convinced
[14:39] <pavlushka> linuxr: How many open tabs you have in your firefox?
[14:41]  * pavlushka can confirm the case and also the reason, too many open tabs (I had 100 or more, lol)
[14:41] <linuxr> pavlushka, only a few tabs, but poorly implemented pages like youtube and a large image gallery which probably did not proberly release resources when scrolling through it
[14:43] <pavlushka> linuxr: well you can always htop or some other system resource monitor to check
[14:43] <pavlushka> *can use
[14:48] <kedar_apte> @SrPx - you will need to install openssh-server on the desktop and then u will either need a static public IP or a dynamic dns account. You will then need to either configure dyndns account on your desktop or your router.. if on desktop then just ssh into the hostname you have created on the dyndns else you will have to port forward on the router
[14:48] <linuxr> firefox with only one youtube video open consumes a whopping gigabyte of memory...this is so insane
[14:50] <kedar_apte> better option would be to install teamviewer or anydesk, enable password based login and access the desktop using anydesk or team viewer
[14:50] <kedar_apte> none of these methods are super secure....
[14:50] <kedar_apte> unless necessary, you should not do the above on a consistent basis
[14:55] <pavlushka> linuxr: Then you should complain about it on https://chat.mozilla.org/
[14:56] <hylian> this is not so much a problem as it is a request for your opinion. I am using irssi, and i love it... just wondering if anyone has another suggestion for a cli irc client, or if irssi is the best option?
[14:56] <linuxr> pavlushka, not really..there can always be misbehaving applications..but a modern system should be able to handle that
[14:56] <Geniack> lotuspsychje: :) its working, i had to do a reboot
[14:56] <Geniack> lotuspsychje: can this be done with the intel driver?
[14:56] <Geniack> or does windows do it with the nvidia driver too?
[14:58] <oerheks> interesting.. so youtube caches a part of the stream
[14:58] <oerheks> is this your\ real issue, linuxr ?
[14:58] <leftyfb> linuxr: I would look into video drivers and hardware acceleration settings
[14:58] <pavlushka> linuxr: or may be here, https://wiki.mozilla.org/Matrix#Connect_to_Matrix, if they confirm it is not browser specific issue or what ever the reason is.
[14:59] <pavlushka> linuxr: or would listen to leftyfb
[14:59] <linuxr> oerheks, I think this is quite and issue, indeed
[15:00] <linuxr> leftyfb, how would that help when applications are eating memory up to the point where the system collapses?
[15:00] <leftyfb> linuxr: did you try it?
[15:00] <leftyfb> linuxr: are you here looking for help or just want to complain and continue with the issue?
[15:01] <linuxr> leftyfb, I am here to check if there is an option to tune the system to properly handle this type of problem
[15:01] <linuxr> apparently not
[15:02] <leftyfb> linuxr: not if you refuse to listen to advice you have asked for
[15:02] <Maik_aD> seem like i missed out on something
[15:03] <leftyfb> linuxr: I'll repeat: I would look into video drivers and hardware acceleration settings
[15:03] <linuxr> leftyfb, yes I see this is your advice, but I fail to see any connection to my problem which is excessive memory usage by firefox
[15:04] <leftyfb> linuxr: ok, good luck
[15:04] <linuxr> or better, which is the OS not killing havoc processes
[15:04] <Maik_aD> linuxr: running any add ons?
[15:04] <Maik_aD> on FF that is
[15:04] <linuxr> Maik_aD, only ublock
[15:04] <linuxr> which should reduce resource usage
[15:05] <Maik_aD> and what is excessive memory usage by FF?
[15:05] <Maik_aD> i mean how much it uses up
[15:07] <Maik_aD> linuxr: ublock doesn't reduce resource usage
[15:08] <linuxr> Maik_aD, of course it does..even by not loading/displaying all the advertisment gfx
[15:09] <Maik_aD> ublock is just a adblocker which is resource friendly as in more lightweight than AdBlocker
[15:09] <linuxr> Maik_aD, my base system uses about 800M, and FF exhausted the remaining memory of my total 4G
[15:09] <linuxr> Maik_aD, exactly...and loading/displaying ads requires..a lot of resources
[15:09] <Maik_aD> never had any issues and i also have only 4GB on two machines
[15:10] <linuxr> you can even extend battery life on a notebook using adblockers...this has been proven experimentally
[15:10] <Gnjurac> how to see in exmaple in what package is libvorbis.so.0 its pain in ass to manaly go ubuntu packages compy paste in search for 50 packages
[15:12] <Maik_aD> the problem sounds too familiar by the way, seen someone elsewhere talking about the same thing not to long ago. However he had more add ons running but refused to turn them off to see which one caused the issue.
[15:15] <pavlos> linuxr: ps aux | awk '{print $6/1024 " MB\t\t" $11}' | grep firefox
[15:17] <Gnjurac> anyone?
[15:20] <LordChaos> Gnjurac: dpkg -S <filename>
[15:22] <leftyfb> Gnjurac: install "apt-file". Then run: sudo apt-file update # then run: apt-file search libvorbis.so.0
[15:24] <avemilia> I have black screen with artifacts when I try to boot live iso. by that I mean that I can see that something is going on in the console, but the output is multiplied to like 5 consoles on the screen at the same time and the output is so distorted that it looks like just some pixels here and there. nvidia 2070s, 4k screen. any ideas?
[15:25] <Gnjurac> i am atrying to appimage stupit viber
[15:25] <Gnjurac> when i do i cant play video so i  installed normal viber form deb ad it works
[15:26] <Gnjurac> so i did ldd to get what all libs it uses so i want to package them in appimage too
[15:26] <leftyfb> Gnjurac: sorry, we can only support packages available from the official Ubuntu repo's here. Not appimage
[15:27] <oerheks> hmm ublobk and firefox blocking 3rd party cookies..
[15:28] <oerheks> what happens without?
[15:28] <Gnjurac> my question was ubuntu realted how from ldd output to get whats package name
[15:32] <leftyfb> Gnjurac: ldd is not the appropriate tool to find what package a file belongs to. Use apt-file for that a suggested
[15:32] <LordChaos> Gnjurac: why use ldd for this?
[15:32] <LordChaos> leftyfb: or just dpkg -S
[15:32] <Gnjurac> cuz dpkg -S dosent vie me anything
[15:33] <leftyfb> dpkg -S only works for installed packages AFAIK
[15:33] <leftyfb> apt-file is the better solution
[15:33] <Gnjurac> i have viber installed
[15:34] <Gnjurac> apt-file list viber ?
[15:35] <leftyfb> Gnjurac: please read my post above regarding apt-file
[15:36] <LordChaos> I was under the impression he already installed viber
[15:39] <leftyfb> apt-file will tell you what package(s) a file(or partial name) can be found in
[15:40] <oerheks> viber itself points to https://download.cdn.viber.com/cdn/desktop/Linux/viber.deb
[15:40] <melatonina> Hello
[15:40] <oerheks> appimage is unofficial, even our own snap is unofficial too
[15:41] <Gnjurac> ye i pull that deb
[15:41] <Gnjurac> am trying to make appimage with it
[15:41] <Gnjurac> so i can firejail it on voidlinux :P
[15:42] <leftyfb> Gnjurac: This is a support channel for Ubuntu. Not for making appimages for other distros
[15:42] <oerheks> good luck, not in this channel
[15:42] <melatonina> I moved a directory that I had shared with samba on another disk. Now there are a subset of the files that don't appear at all if I use "unix extensions = no" and that appear as zero bytes directories if I use that settings. Do you have any idea of what could be the cause?
[15:43] <oerheks> melatonina, on another disk, what filesystem is that?
[15:45] <melatonina> oerheks: checking.
[15:46] <melatonina> oerheks: both the original disk (my main disk) and the new one are ext4.
[15:46] <Gnjurac> eat fruit .). cya
[15:48] <futureRich> hello, there is good example of .vimrc setting
[15:49] <futureRich> for vim editor?
[15:51] <leftyfb> futureRich: do you have a support question or just looking for documentation?
[15:51] <futureRich> leftyfb, no idea
[15:52] <oerheks> melatonina, not sure why you need 'unix extensions = no' ..
[15:53] <leftyfb> futureRich: https://vimhelp.org/starting.txt.html#vimrc
[15:54] <leftyfb> futureRich: from within vim, run:   :h vimrc
[15:55] <futureRich> https://pastebin.com/32hWhBu4  <--- it is mine
[15:56] <futureRich> leftyfb, it is not enough.
[15:56] <futureRich> i think that i add some text more leftyfb
[15:56] <leftyfb> futureRich: enough for what? What is your support issue exactly?
[15:57] <futureRich> i want to make colorful text editor
[15:57] <futureRich> for vim
[15:57] <futureRich> leftyfb, ?
[15:58] <leftyfb> futureRich: https://linuxhint.com/vim_syntax_highlighting/#:~:text=After%20opening%20login.sh%20file,off%E2%80%9D%20to%20disable%20syntax%20highlighting.
[15:58] <leftyfb> futureRich: I'm pretty sure syntax highlighting is enabled by default in ubuntu
[16:00] <Maik_aD> can't really call it a support issue :)
[16:01] <futureRich> https://vimcolors.com/1113/synthwave84/dark   <--- how can i make it? leftyfb ?
[16:01] <Maik_aD> futureRich: ask in #vim
[16:02] <leftyfb> futureRich: you enable syntax highlighting like I linked you to. Which should already be enabled by default
[16:02] <futureRich> ok
[16:02] <futureRich> thanks
[16:03] <leftyfb> futureRich: your vimrc is invalid. Please remove, what looks like attempts at comments at the end of your lines
[16:03] <futureRich> leftyfb, ok
[16:03] <futureRich> i will go to #vim thanks
[16:41] <sybariten> okay
[16:41] <sybariten> so i have an ubuntu 16.04 machine that seems to have lost its connection to the internet, its like a home server but i have a screen for it and i'm sitting by it.
[16:42] <sybariten> The start of the problem was _probably_ that i noticed it had changed from 192.168.0.2 to .3 , and i wanted to change it back manually to make it work with some samba scanner setup etc
[16:42] <sybariten> So i probably did something wrong there.... but what shall i start doing? I suspect its not seeing my gateway.
[16:43] <sybariten> route -n gives two lines, one startging 169 and one starting 192
[16:43] <sybariten> i have not rebooted the machine as i thought that would be a last resort
[16:47] <jmgb4> Anybody know what port / proto the ubuntu media share works on?
[16:48] <leftyfb> jmgb4: got a link about this media share?
[16:49] <leftyfb> sybariten: is this a desktop environment or just command line?
[16:50] <jmgb4> leftyfb, its in the settings...
[16:50] <leftyfb> jmgb4: what version of ubuntu?
[16:51] <sybariten> leftyfb: i have a desktop. Actually i just realized its not the most common ubuntu desktop, this might be a xubuntu machine (xfce)
[16:52] <leftyfb> jmgb4: https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/sharing-media.html.en   looks like it might be DLNA which is port 1900 UDP
[16:52] <oerheks> what 'media share' exactly? samba, nfs,..
[16:52] <oerheks> ?
[16:53] <jmgb4> Currently I am on 20.04
[16:53] <jmgb4> oerheks, Thats really what I am trying to figure out
[16:55] <sybariten> took out the network cable, reinserted it.... a popup came up on the desktop "your current network has a .local domain, which is not remommended and incompatible with the Avahi network service discovery. The service has been disabled"
[16:55] <jmgb4> Interesting
[16:55] <jmgb4> Nothing can find it
[16:56] <sybariten> (that is probably unrelated though. )
[16:56] <jmgb4> Even nothing on the same network
[17:02] <leftyfb> jmgb4: did you not see my reply?
[17:02] <jmgb4> leftyfb, Yeah
[17:05] <jmgb4> leftyfb, I say its not serving up either, both dlna and upnp gets shutdown
[17:07] <oerheks> ports on your router, or your firewall?
[17:08] <jmgb4> rst from server according to the logs
[17:08] <jmgb4> I could nmap it and see but already losing interest
[17:09] <jmgb4> If its UDP though, could take a while
[17:09] <oerheks> what port is specified in /etc/minidlna.conf ??
[17:10] <oerheks> i expect 1900 too ..
[17:12] <jmgb4> Doesnt exist
[17:12] <pavlos> sybariten: ip a | nc termbin.com 9999
[17:12] <pavlos> sybariten: route | nc termbin.com 9999
[17:24] <oerheks> good, firefox patch is out https://ubuntu.com/security/notices/USN-4443-1
[17:31] <sybariten> pavlos: one sec
[17:33] <sybariten> pavlos: https://termbin.com/ybn8
[17:33] <sybariten> pavlos: https://termbin.com/t30vc
[17:33] <sybariten> theres some kind of voodoo service that can take input from netcat into their webserver ?
[17:35] <lotuspsychje> Geniack: sorry was afk abit, i think if you want full force of your hybrid card, you should enable the nvidia
[17:35] <pavlos> sybariten: ip and route look ok
[17:37] <pavlos> sybariten: it's a service termbin.com offers, nothing voodoo
[17:38] <sybariten> pavlos: hm ok, strange
[17:39] <sybariten> hey its working again
[17:39] <sybariten> but, once again i'm at .3   .... theres no simple little command line trick to get me to .2 instead ?
[17:42] <pavlos> sybariten: sudo ifconfig enp1s0 192.168.0.2 netmask 255.255.255.0  ... then do, ip a again, you should have a .2
[18:18] <kalighost> hello everyone...so you know how the xhost command lets you access the x server and using the example command 'xhost si:localuser:username' grants that permission but on reboot you have to enter that command again. is there a way that would make that command permanent? like is there a file i need to edit or anything else i can do so that i do not have to enter that command after each new boot up?
[18:24] <luiserebii> Hello, which channel should I jump to for questions on older Ubuntu versions? As in, 6.06 (are there any?)
[18:25] <sarnold> luiserebii: probably there's very few people that remember any details about a 14 year old release.. you can try asking here..
[18:26] <sarnold> kalighost: it's been ages since I've done "real" networked X, but my recollection is that you could get xdm or gdm etc to handle all those authorization details for you
[18:27] <luiserebii> Ok. Perhaps I'm actually in a bit of an X/Y problem, so I'll describe the former first. I've been trying to work with the GNU GCC 3.4 compiler, and I couldn't find any online ones, and so, to avoid any complexities that might arise from building or installing on my own machine, decided to use a VM to install an older flavor of Ubuntu, 6.06.
[18:28] <luiserebii> The installation of 6.06 was successful
[18:29] <luiserebii> However, whenever I attempt something like `sudo aptitude gcc-3.3-base`, I seem to get nothing ("Need to get 0B of archives")
[18:30] <luiserebii> I also tried to install build-essential per someone's recommendation found online, but it can't seem to find any package by that name
[18:32] <luiserebii> If anyone happens to know if there are good ways to get older version of gcc on my current installation also (Ubuntu 20.04 LTS), I'd be happy to know also
[18:32] <leftyfb> luiserebii: https://askubuntu.com/a/91821
[18:33] <luiserebii> Thank you, I'll take a look now leftyfb!
[18:34] <Pinchiukas> Do I need a special kernel to run in GCP with Shielded VM enabled?
[18:34] <leftyfb> Pinchiukas: that is a question for Google support
[18:36] <sarnold> luiserebii: did that link head to old-archives.ubuntu.com? :) I hope so
[18:36] <sybariten> pavlos: after doing that, the network actially gets unreachable again...... when trying for instance links www.google.com . which worked right before
[18:37] <sybariten> pavlos: and i cant do the termbin thing ofcourse
[18:39] <pavlos> sybariten: can you modify /etc/hosts, add the 192.168.0.2 ip and reboot ?
[18:39] <Pinchiukas> Would the default kernels boot under Secure Boot?
[18:39] <luiserebii> sarnold: yup, seems it has!
[18:39] <sarnold> luiserebii: sweet :) happy archaeology :D
[18:40] <luiserebii> sarnold: Thanks xD
[18:40] <sybariten> pavlos: just add that IP on a line of its own?
[18:41] <leftyfb> Pinchiukas: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UEFI/SecureBoot
[18:42] <pavlos> sybariten: you may have a 127.0.0.1 localhost add after that 192.168.0.2 thehostnameyouwant
[18:43] <sybariten> pavlos: ah. you know what i have, i have 127 0 0 1 localhost, and the second line is 127.0.1.1 adriane ... which is a name of this machine
[18:43] <Pinchiukas> leftyfb: how can I find out if my current kernel is signed at all?
[18:44] <leftyfb> Pinchiukas: is this on GCP?
[18:44] <Pinchiukas> leftyfb: yes.
[18:44] <leftyfb> Pinchiukas: I'm pretty sure GCP does not use stock Ubuntu/kernel installs so we won't be able to help you with that here
[18:45] <Pinchiukas> leftyfb: you mean they build their own?
[18:45] <leftyfb> Pinchiukas: I think so, yes. I could be wrong
[18:45] <pavlos> sybariten: change that second line to "192.168.0.2 adriane"
[18:46] <sybariten> pavlos: i dont neeed the 127.0.1.1 ? cant remember manually adding it..
[18:46] <Pinchiukas> leftyfb: at any rate, how could I check if the kernel I'm currently using has any signature whatsoever?
[18:47] <pavlos> sybariten: https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch05.en.html#_the_hostname_resolution
[18:47] <sybariten> pavlos: thanks
[18:49] <tomreyn> Pinchiukas: a recent reminder why UEFI "Secure Boot" should always be written in quotes: https://eclypsium.com/2020/07/29/theres-a-hole-in-the-boot/
[18:49] <tomreyn> Pinchiukas: journalctl -b | grep -i 'secure boot'
[18:49] <pavlos> sybariten: the 127.0.1.1 is a debian/ubuntu thing, you can replace 127.0.1.1 with a static ip within your network
[18:50] <sybariten> pavlos: great, thanks
[18:51] <tomreyn> Pinchiukas: tainting is relevant to identify unsigned kernel modules: https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/admin-guide/tainted-kernels.html
[18:52] <luiserebii> sarnold, leftyfb: I have been successful. Thank you so much!
[18:53] <sarnold> luiserebii: yay :D
[18:53] <sybariten> pavlos: rebooted, seems i still got a .3 IP if i understand correclty
[18:54] <sybariten> oh wait
[18:54] <pavlos> sybariten: you modified /etc/hosts with sudo, added 192.168.0.2 adriane, saved, rebooted and still ip a shows .3 ?
[18:54] <tomreyn> Pinchiukas: kernel lockdown (also logged to your system log) is applied in secure boot mode to restrict the root user: https://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/55105.html
[18:54] <sybariten> pavlos: may have made a sloppy error.... one sec
[18:58] <sybariten> pavlos: hm. I dunno. NOw when i reboot, for starters i am "disconneced" (this is a witrd connection btw) .
[18:58] <sybariten> i have a maenu choice where it says disconnected, ill click on the NIC now and see if it connects....  but shouldnt need to do this from the frsktop i guess
[18:59] <sybariten> witrd = wired
[19:00] <sybariten> yup as soon as i click on the nic i get connected, albeit with a .3 adress
[19:01] <sybariten> etc hosts definitely says 192.168.0.2 on the second line
[19:01] <pavlos> sybariten: so this machine, 16.04 is not configured static but dhcp (get an ip from your router) ?
[19:03] <Pinchiukas> tomreyn: I don't have SB enabled yet but I'm lookimg into it. I want to figure out if my kernel is signed.
[19:04] <tomreyn> Pinchiukas: then i suggest reading through the documentation and links provided, startting with what lefty gave you.
[19:09] <sybariten> pavlos: as far as i can tell when looking in the gui network settings under IPv4 yes
[19:09] <sybariten> pavlos: method: automatic (DHCP)
[19:10] <sybariten> I mean i guess i could just change the .2 to .3 in the receiving ends instead, i just wanted to avoid to go through that hassle
[19:12] <sybariten> if i look at "network connections" and then press edit on enp1s0, it actually does not have a check in the box "atumatically connecto to this network when available", so maybe that is why i manually had to clik on that network/NIC in a menu, for it to get internet access now... but i guess the .3 is a bit strange. I better look in my router so no one else has taken that.
[19:13] <sybariten> nope
[19:15] <pavlos> sybariten: your router has cached 192.168.0.3 -> adriane so you cannot change the ip.
[19:17] <oerheks> maybe your router has a mac filter, to assign a static ip
[19:21] <sank> hi folks!
[19:21] <sank> https://askubuntu.com/questions/1262984/integrated-isight-camera-on-apple-cinematic-display-does-not-work-with-ubuntu-20
[19:21] <sank> can someone take a look at this? ^
[19:21] <sank> and help me out?
[19:22] <sank> It involves connecting my 20.04 Ubuntu machine with an Apple external monitor that has an insight webcam. I am unable to access the webcam from my machine
[19:23] <sarnold> sank: i suggest editing the question to includ what applications you're trying to use, what error messages they report, the output of the standard output and standard error from those applications, journalctl output, etc
[19:23] <sank> sarnold: doing that right away.
[19:23] <oerheks> sank,  i found this in top results;  http://mate-macos.blogspot.com/p/using-apple-led-cinema-display-in.html
[19:24] <oerheks> see; Activating the iSight Camera
[19:24] <oerheks> !info isight-firmware-tools
[19:26] <sank> oerheks: dang. i have been searching the net for the last 2 days, and hadn't found this link. mad seo chops there! : )
[19:26] <sank> I tried that solution and unfortunately it still does not work
[19:26] <sank> let me try restarting my machine
[19:30] <sank> oerheks: sarnold that doesn't seem to help. I have the firmware installed. I am trying to use cheese, and I can't see the second webcam.
[19:30] <sank> I also cannot see it on guvcview
[19:30] <oerheks> sorry to hear that, it has worked before.
[19:31] <sank> yeah. i wonder if there is a way to debug. : /
[19:31] <ioria> sank, not restart; try to shutdown completely and boot again
[19:31] <sank> ioria: yep that's whaat i did actually. i selected "Power Off"
[19:32] <sank> and then restarted my machine from scratch
[19:32] <ioria> sank, have you tried with cheese ?
[19:32] <fcastillo> hi everybody, does anybody know of a tool that cleans dconf? something that will find unused keys and deletes them.
[19:32] <sank> ioria: yes, with cheese!
[19:33] <leftyfb> fcastillo: dconf is not the registry. Unused keys aren't going to affect your systems performance
[19:33] <pavlos> sank: seems you need to patch appleusbvideosupport See the link oerheks posted, section "Activating the iSight Camera"
[19:33] <sybariten> pavlos: a restart of the router then perhaps?
[19:34] <ioria> sank, check if you have this file : ' AppleUSBVideoSupport'
[19:34] <pavlos> sybariten: what are the dhcp settings on your router? does it offer ip range from .2 to .250 ?
[19:34] <sank> pavlos: ioria yep, i have that file, i installed the isight-firmware-tools and used ift-extract to extract it
[19:34] <sank> still no luck.
[19:35] <sank> the camera definitely works, because I have an old mac, and it works with that.
[19:35] <ioria> sank,  ls /lib/firmware/isight.fw
[19:35] <sank> ioria: yes!
[19:35] <sank> i have that.
[19:36] <ioria> sank,  have you copied AppleUSBVideoSupport in your home ?
[19:36] <sank> ioria: yes
[19:36] <ioria> sank,   sudo ift-extract -a AppleUSBVideoSupport
[19:37] <sank> ioria: yep i did that
[19:37] <ioria> sank,   do it again ans paste the output
[19:37] <pavlos> did it report patch successful?
[19:38] <sank> ioria: pavlos: yes. https://paste.centos.org/view/2358fdbf
[19:39] <ioria> sank,   shutdown
[19:40] <sank> ioria: wwill do
[19:40] <sank> meanwhile, also take a look at https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/g2J7d3HDwg/
[19:40] <sank> brb good folks!
[19:42] <sank> back, and started cheese, and still does not work
[19:42] <sank> the lsmod does show the facetimehd drivers right?
[19:43] <sank> and i also have "facetimehd" in `/etc/modules`
[19:43] <ioria> sank,   try with guvcview
[19:44] <sank> ioria: hmm, yeah, don't see the isight camera.
[19:44]  * sank thinks
[19:44] <ioria> sank,   in lsusb ?
[19:44] <sank> don't see it there too ioria
[19:45] <ioria> sank,  ok, i'am out, sy
[19:45] <sank> : /
[19:45] <sank> thanks for trying!
[19:46] <sybariten> pavlos: it should yes and now after a reboot of also the router, the server seems to have received .2 !
[19:46] <sybariten> pavlos: so thanks!
[19:48] <pavlos> sybariten: yw
[19:50] <pavlos> sank: old post but see steps 5,6,7 (not sure if needed) ... https://askubuntu.com/questions/100527/how-to-fix-webcam-on-macbook-pro-5-5
[19:51] <sank> pavlos: thanks, I think my biggest concern right now is that the camera does not even show up on lsusb. : /
[19:52] <sank> wonder if it's not a usb camera
[19:55] <pavlos> sank: this post (3 years ago) step 6, you've done those ... https://medium.com/@darioems/install-fedora-26-on-macbook-4-1-white-or-black-6e09c0fecbba
[20:03] <oerheks> grub2 update https://ubuntu.com/security/notices/USN-4432-1
[20:14] <sank> pavlos: yep I've done all that. : ) So, as a sanity check I tried again to see if the camera works with my Mac OSX
[20:14] <sank> and surprise surprise it doesn't!
[20:15] <sank> so i wonder if something is borked with the camera
[20:15] <sank> will keep debugging and update my askubuntu answer  when i find out
[20:15] <sank> thanks so much for helping me debug
[20:15] <sank> : )
[20:31] <DoYouKnow> hey, I'm on a surface pro. Is there any image I can dd to my hard disk to install ubuntu? it seems install is corrupt
[20:32] <DoYouKnow> can I just redownload the install iso and dd it?
[20:33] <DoYouKnow> ugh nvm
[20:39] <wolfman> i already asked this in #xchat but thought to ask it here as well. so, i have this odd issue with xchat auto-connecting to servers. whenever i run it from the command line, auto-connect works. but if i run it from ubuntu's app launcher, auto-connect does not work. thoughts?
[20:40] <Dragonkeeper> i have ubuntu on a dev board, its got to be headless, so is there a way i can add a virtual display so i can use vnc ? it has a nvidia chip
[20:41] <sarnold> Dragonkeeper: maybe xserver-xorg-video-dummy ?
[20:41] <Dragonkeeper> sarnold: ill try that  thanks
[20:41] <oerheks> xchat is unmaintained ..
[20:42] <wolfman> oerheks: arggh. what irc client would you recommend?
[20:43] <oerheks> hexchat, a maintained fork of xchat
[20:44] <oerheks> or irssi, in tty
[20:44] <Dragonkeeper> weechat ^
[20:44] <oerheks> tons of choice :-)
[20:45] <oerheks> for secure sasl on freenode; https://freenode.net/kb/answer/sasl with the list
[20:46] <wolfman> i'm debating whether to go tty or not. i'll give hexchat a try. thanks!
[20:47] <oerheks> have fun!
[20:54] <wolfman> thanks for suggesting hexchat oerheks. on it now and i think i'll keep it.
[20:56] <oerheks> same look and feel indeed. take your time to discover all options
[20:57] <wolfman> will do.
[20:57] <wolfman> it's been a while since i've been on irc. need to oil rusted joints
[20:57] <sarnold> oerheks: woot :)
[21:03] <thyriaen> tomreyn, hey, are you there ?
[21:04] <sarnold> thyriaen: tomreyn just took off
[21:04] <thyriaen> oh okay
[21:04] <thyriaen> well we talked about a problem i had a few days ago
[21:04] <thyriaen> you might have been there too
[21:05] <sarnold> it's possible, heh, I'm at my computer entirely too much :) hehe
[21:05] <thyriaen> is there a log from this channel ?
[21:05] <thyriaen> then i can grab my pastes again to get all the information together
[21:06] <thyriaen> the problem is very simple now
[21:08] <sarnold> thyriaen: yeah, https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ -- since they are scattered by days it can be a bit hard to follow conversations that span day boundaries..
[21:08] <thyriaen> okey no problem
[21:09] <thyriaen> well - my laptop hangs on shutdown ( sometimes like 70% chance ) with this error message: https://imgur.com/a/bSyp8OR
[21:09] <thyriaen> the interesting part is - it worked with 16.04 and 18.04 ( i think i even had 19.04 for a few months - not sure ) but since 20.04 it introduced this bug
[21:10] <sarnold> oh yeah this looks familiar
[21:10] <sarnold> I had wondered if the /oldroot bit was a holdover from booting, or part of shutdown
[21:10] <thyriaen> well so far we have concluded that the oldroot thing is not the issue
[21:11] <thyriaen> it is the xhci_hcd stuff that makes it hang
[21:11] <thyriaen> sometimes when boot works normally i get some ( below 1s flashing of text where the oldroot stuff is in there and it isn't an issue
[21:15] <sarnold> thyriaen: cool cool, it's good to have that sorted out
[21:16] <pavlos> https://bugs.launchpad.net/snappy/+bug/1881276
[21:16] <sarnold> thyriaen: have you found any correlation with specific devices being plugged in? specific mice, keyboards, scanners, etc?
[21:16] <thyriaen> sarnold, yea, i have ruled out that any devices might be the cause of it cause i took a fresh install and didn't plug anything in
[21:17] <thyriaen> last time i was around we suspected a faulty USB-ethernet dongle to be the issue but i never used that again
[21:17] <thyriaen> so it can't be any device
[21:17] <thyriaen> and since this is a laptop there is nothing else i can plug in or out :p
[21:18] <sarnold> hah
[21:19] <sarnold> it's probably worth a bug report, but it's hard to guess if the kernel team would be able to help much :(
[21:19] <sarnold> if you *really* want to get to the bottom of this, itmight require eg booting older kernels, newer kernels, and bisect your way to finding exactly when it started happening
[21:19] <thyriaen> yea, it would be helpful if i at least knew what the thing is that aint working
[21:19] <thyriaen> like which part, or of its a part of the pc or whats going on
[21:19] <thyriaen> oh
[21:20] <thyriaen> well
[21:20] <thyriaen> if i boot the newest kernel
[21:20] <thyriaen> then it doesn't work either
[21:20] <thyriaen> but i can try to use the 18.04 default kernel
[21:20] <thyriaen> that might actually help
[21:20] <thyriaen> you know which kernel that is currently ?
[21:22] <thyriaen> yea getting an older kernel is a really good idea
[21:22] <sarnold> heh, there's a lot of different kernels.. this is a handy site to see some of the flavours https://kernel.ubuntu.com/sru/dashboards/web/kernel-stable-board.html
[21:22] <thyriaen> ah ty
[21:23] <thyriaen> sarnold, do you know how i can get hold of the entire log of my last shutdown ?
[21:23] <thyriaen> i only know that journalctl -b gives me that of the boot
[21:24] <sarnold> heh, I'm not sure how to get a hold of log entries made after the filesystems are unmounted
[21:24] <thyriaen> oh
[21:24] <thyriaen> true xD
[21:24] <sarnold> you *can* store logs in EFI vars or something similar and some folks have systems to store logs in RAM across reboots (magic)
[21:24] <sarnold> but I don't know how to get there easily
[21:25] <thyriaen> ok, i thought there might be some linuxy way where it gets stored by default
[21:25] <sarnold> thyriaen: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds  -- the kernel team provides 'mainline' builds, too, which may be omre useful for debugging this
[21:26] <thyriaen> sarnold, i was about to use https://github.com/bkw777/mainline - is there a difference between ubuntu-kernels and linux-mainline-kernels ?
[21:27] <sarnold> thyriaen: this looks like a front end to picking kernels from that ppa
[21:28] <sarnold> if that'd be helpful, that's fine, but I'm reluctant to install software from people I don't know
[21:28] <thyriaen> okay ty
[21:33] <WoC> is there a way to prevent /etc/localtime from being altered by updates/upgrades ?
[21:34] <WoC> i.e. apparmor ?
[21:34] <WoC> or can i use some extended attributes ? or acl ?
[21:35] <sarnold> WoC: using apparmor to confine apt to prevent /etc/localtime from being modified is going to be very very painful. it's best to pretend that option doesn't exist.
[21:36] <WoC> ok, figured that too... just remove it and copy the right file from zoneinfo ?
[21:36] <sarnold> WoC: you could try chattr +i on the file, I think that might do the trick, but if an update does try to update the file, it will probably cause an error, and that might fail the update and leave the system in an unhappy state that reqires recovery
[21:36] <sarnold> I'm curious why / how this is a problem?
[21:36] <WoC> wrong timezone
[21:37] <WoC> i set it with timedatectl and it's changed as soon as i update the system
[21:39] <sarnold> WoC: try using sudo dpkg-reconfigure tzdata  ?
[21:39] <WoC> i think chattr +i fixed it
[21:40] <WoC> it works with timedatectl, but as i mentioned; only until next system update
[21:41] <WoC> Anyhow, appreciated :)
[21:41] <sarnold> WoC: yes, which is why I'm suggesting using the debian debconf approach to set it, and see if that helps :)
[21:41] <WoC> Right, just as the timedatectl, until the next update/upgrade/dist-upgrade
[21:42] <sarnold> WoC: that's the thing, tohugh
[21:42] <spiffdaddy> hey gang -- I'm having issues with two systemd service units failing to start at boot and I'm pretty sure they're related and misconfigured.  wpa_supplicant.service & systemd-networkd-wait-online.service (hangs boot time until it times out).  I understand netplan configures wpa_supplicant and I have an active wireless connection to the server, but these failed services are bugging the crap out of me.
[21:42] <sarnold> WoC: the debconf approach has been around for 25 years give or take, and *should* keep working fine
[21:42] <sarnold> WoC: timedatectl knows nothing of debconf
[21:42] <sarnold> WoC: and if the two disagree, then probably the debian tooling is putting back what is configured in debconf
[21:42] <sarnold> WoC: so make sure debconf's thing KNOWS what you want :D
[21:43] <WoC> Right
[21:43] <WoC> Ty
[21:45] <spiffdaddy> I'm kind of at a loss and don't really know what to look for in these .service files to sort this out...
[21:47] <spiffdaddy> is there a order of operations to run through to find what's causing this or any red flags in the netplan .yaml or wpa_supplicant.service files I should be looking for?
[21:47] <spiffdaddy> i'm convinced if i sort out wpa_supplicant, the wait-online.service will be fixed.
[21:48] <Dragonkeeper> i have installed xrdp and xserver-xorg-video-dummy   but i get this error once i have connected and put login info   libGL error: failed to load driver: swrast
[21:49] <frogs> does anyone know the correct command to fix the topic of my channel here on freenode? thank you
[21:50] <WoC> chanserv ?
[21:50] <WoC> frogs, msg chanserv help topic
[21:50] <frogs> WoC, yes but when i leave the channel it erases the topic
[21:51] <oerheks> spiffdaddy, you rould do the ugly disable and mask.. https://gist.github.com/austinjp/9b968c75c3e54004be7cd7a134881d85#other-nonsense
[21:51] <WoC> frogs, topiclock
[21:51] <frogs> WoC, oh ok ty
[21:51] <frogs> i'll try
[21:51] <WoC> np
[21:52] <spiffdaddy> oerheks -- I'd rather not mask.  I'm kind of playing with fire here considering everything "works", but i'd really like to learn how systemd services operate so I can deal with this again in the future if it occurs.
[21:55] <WoC> oerheks, is there anything like inittab in systemd when it comes to tty's ans serial consoles ?
[21:55] <WoC> s/ans/and/
[21:57] <oerheks> WoC, yes, see this easy example https://wiki.debian.org/systemd#Virtual_and_serial_console_changes
[21:57] <sarnold> logind.conf(5) describes how many VTs to start..
[21:57] <WoC> Somehow i have a serial console defined ...
[21:59] <oerheks> sudo nano /lib/systemd/system/serial-getty@.service
[22:01] <WoC> ty :) ftw; systemctl disable serial-getty@ttyS0.service
[22:01] <WoC> S2 in my case
[22:19] <InspectorCluseau> ;;tlast
[22:53] <spiffdaddy> fixed it
[22:55] <spiffdaddy> So this is kind of strange, but on a previous install, i set up wpa_supplicant and made some changes to /etc/systemd/system/wpa_supplicant.service ... unless i'm imaging things, somehow these files carried over and I had a weird ExecStart line that was preventing wpa_supplicant from starting at boot.
[22:57] <spiffdaddy> after correcting that line, wpa_supplicant began starting.  However, my assumption that after getting wpa_supplicant to start, systemd-networkd-wait-online.service would also work was wrong.  I ended up having to add an optional: true line under the eternet adaptor in my netplan .yaml file.
[22:57] <spiffdaddy> Now that i fixed this, I realized i can actually put this server closer to the access point and hard wire it...lol
[23:32] <boxrick> Hello!
[23:33] <sarnold> hello boxrick
[23:33] <boxrick>  I asked this in the server channel but it seems a little dead.  I am currently attempting to install Ubuntu 20.04 on a USB Stick in a HP server, it works until it gets to 'Installing Kernel ' and just sits forever at 'Unpacking linux-firmware'. Any ideas on what may be going wrong?
[23:34] <sarnold> boxrick: can you get to another shell on it?
[23:35] <boxrick> I have yet to try a live usb stick and starting up a shell. Perhaps thats a thing to try
[23:38] <sarnold> boxrick: sorry, I mean, contorl+alt+f2, control+alt+f3, ssh in, etc?
[23:39] <boxrick> I tried disconnecting the network since a bit of googling suggested it was perhaps being caused by IPV6. But a shell is accessible using control + alt + f3
[23:39] <boxrick> So no SSH ( at this exact second ) but I can use the terminal if I need
[23:42] <sarnold> is there anytihng in dmesg that looks suspicious?
[23:42] <sarnold> journalctl?
[23:43] <boxrick> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/r1ccIS5q/image.JPG
[23:43] <boxrick> Yea seems so
[23:44] <boxrick> I am guessing this is a hardware issue.
[23:45] <sarnold> ouch :(
[23:45] <boxrick> This a refurb HP server I purchased, its not the end of the world.
[23:45] <boxrick> Perhaps not so refurbed
[23:47] <boxrick> Whats odd is I am not even using a SATA port
[23:49] <boxrick> Ill disconnect all the Mini SAS and onboard SATA and see if I can get any further
[23:49] <boxrick> Cheers for the pointers
[23:57] <sarnold> boxrick: heh, it's a port you're not even using? bugger..
[23:58] <boxrick> Yea, not right now. There is a crappy b120i onboard raid controller and I think there is a SATA on the front for a CD drive ( which has nothing connected )
[23:59] <boxrick> Just retrying now with all the SATA disconnected.