-- currently ¨Ubuntu 20.04 (Focla Fossa) Release Build¨ but should be Focal Fossa instead. [11:58] <sigv> That bugs me a bit too much than it should, sure, but would be nice to have that resolved anyhow. [12:03] <tomreyn> sigv: try asking in #canonical-sysadmin [12:03] <sigv> thanks! will do. [12:03] <tomreyn> i' not sure it'S the right place, but may be. [12:14] <DJones> si it may be #ubuntu-website that would have access to that [12:14] <DJones> sigv: See above [12:15] <sigv> I was considering that, but there are only 7 other users there and no channel ops.. but won´t hurt anyone for me to x-post there as well I suppose. [12:15] <sigv> thanks for the thought even if that doesn´t pan out! [12:48] <BT40> Hi. i have added a new line in /etc/hosts file. This line: 127.0.0.1:5000 orcle When i ping, it gives error: Temporary failure in name resolution [12:48] <BT40> Please guide. [12:48] <BT40> I am using this command to ping: ...... ping -c 4 orcle [12:49] <BT40> only change i made is that i have added port 5000 in localhost (127.0.0.1) IP suffix. [12:55] <tatertotz> BT40: syntax wrong [12:56] <tatertotz> BT40: port 5000? get rid of that....TCP/UDP port numbers shouldn't be included [12:57] <BT40> ok thanks [12:58] <tatertotz> BT40: in terminal> man hosts [12:58] <BT40> tatertotz, thank you [12:59] <BT40> i also want to know, how to ssh in localhost? [12:59] <BT40> when i type this command in terminal, it automaticaly exits without error [12:59] <BT40> ssh localhost [12:59] <BT40> please guide, is this normal thing? [13:00] <BT40> i mean, since it is normal machine and we are already in local mode, is this the reason that terminal auto exits? [13:00] <leftyfb> BT40: put your hosts file back. That does you no good [13:00] <BT40> leftyfb, done. [13:00] <leftyfb> BT40: the correct entry should be "127.0.0.1 localhost" [13:01] <leftyfb> BT40: feel free to add "127.0.1.1 orcle" [13:01] <BT40> leftyfb, already that was at first. I was adding another one with different name :) Now got proper guidance from u guys, [13:01] <leftyfb> notice the ip difference [13:02] <BT40> actually i want to setup database server, it needs host parameter in command. i was messing up with that [13:02] <BT40> now got some clarifications [13:03] <leftyfb> BT40: wat database and what "parameter" does it need in the hosts file exactly and what documentation is telling you this? [13:03] <BT40> oracle nosql database. [13:03] <tatertotz> BT40: ideally you'd have working forward/reverse DNS aiding your other machines with names like "orcle" [13:03] <leftyfb> tatertotz: not with a static ip [13:04] <leftyfb> BT40: got documentation that you can link to here that tells you to add an /etc/hosts enry? [13:04] <leftyfb> entry* [13:04] <BT40> documentation has this line: Be aware that the host names specified here must be resolvable using DNS or the local /etc/hosts file. [13:04] <BT40> i misinterpreted that [13:05] <leftyfb> BT40: adding the entry I gave you will be sufficient [13:05] <tatertotz> leftyfb: not sure what a static or dynamic ip has to do with successful name resolution but okay [13:05] <BT40> sure [13:05] <BT40> please guide on ssh also [13:06] <leftyfb> tatertotz: if the server has a static ip, where how is an A record being created on a local DNS server? [13:06] <BT40> is ssh in local machine possible? [13:06] <leftyfb> BT40: yes [13:06] <leftyfb> BT40: did you install an ssh server? [13:06] <BT40> no [13:06] <BT40> i think it is pre installed in ubuntu [13:06] <leftyfb> BT40: negative [13:08] <BT40> it is installed. I can see using ssh -V [13:08] <BT40> maybe i had installed manually in past, not remembering exactly. [13:08] <leftyfb> BT40: running "ssh -V" does not indicate whether an ssh server is installed locally [13:09] <BT40> or automatically installed as dependency [13:09] <leftyfb> BT40: sudo apt install openssh-server [13:09] <BT40> ok [13:09] <BT40> how can i check, please guide [13:09] <leftyfb> BT40: why are you installing an Oracle database if you don't know the basics of a linux distribution? [13:10] <BT40> i am new to coding. [13:10] <leftyfb> BT40: nothing in our discussion thus far has been related to "coding" [13:10] <BT40> linux basics: i am using it for 10 years as general user [13:10] <BT40> admin things i need to learn [13:10] <leftyfb> BT40: install openssh-server as indicated above [13:11] <leftyfb> BT40: AFAIK, a local ssh server should not be required to run an Oracle database [13:12] <sigv> you could just check with systemd whether it has sshd active, as `systemctl status --lines=0 sshd.service` [13:13] <BT40> leftyfb, actually i am unable to get access despite successfully installing. They have described a method to ping that and test whether it is working. So i was fidling with that [13:13] <leftyfb> or sudo lsof -i :22 [13:13] <BT40> ok sigv [13:13] <leftyfb> BT40: what version of ubuntu is this? [13:13] <sigv> leftyfb, could be on a different port, so ymmv [13:13] <sigv> oh yes, i am assuming somewhat recent with systemd. [13:14] <BT40> output is : ssh.service - OpenBSD Secure Shell server [13:14] <BT40> and much more [13:14] <leftyfb> BT40: please pastebin the output [13:14] <BT40> status is active [13:14] <leftyfb> BT40: when asking for information output, please do not paraphrase. Please pastebin the output [13:15] <BT40> https://pastebin.com/NvAsEKne [13:15] <leftyfb> BT40: what version of ubuntu is this? [13:15] <BT40> 20.04 [13:15] <BT40> desktop edition, gnome [13:15] <sigv> right, `sshd.service` is linked to `ssh.service` now. but yeah - it looks like you have the SSH server running there. [13:16] <leftyfb> BT40: please pastebin the output of: ssh -v localhost [13:17] <BT40> https://pastebin.com/M7yzeWLp [13:17] <leftyfb> ok, your local ssh is working [13:18] <sigv> what exactly is your ssh problem? [13:19] <sigv> or, rather, why are you asking about ´ssh in local machine´ [13:20] <BT40> sigv, ssh node01 [13:20] <BT40> java -jar KVHOME/lib/kvstore.jar ping -host node01 -port 5000 [13:20] <BT40> -security KVROOT/security/client.security [13:20] <BT40> This is the guide by oracle [13:21] <BT40> https://docs.oracle.com/database/nosql-12.1.4.3/AdminGuide/install-config.html [13:21] <BT40> Guide says to do this for testing. [13:21] <BT40> start the database server, switch to new tab, login to node, then ping it [13:22] <sigv> if you are on the local machine already, you do not need to worry about connecting to it again. you can just use the local shell already available. [13:22] <BT40> thank u for making me understand [13:23] <sigv> when you think `ssh localhost` is exiting without error, you might instead be in the opened ssh connection [13:24] <BT40> ok [13:24] <sigv> check the `who` command output for what logins are currently active [13:25] <BT40> yes it is showing 3 users. Two are IP based 127.0.0.1 [13:25] <Paddy1> Hi all. Is anyone aware of a channel thats relevant to .net development under linux? Been asking some questions in ##csharp but all im getting is nonsense, ridicule, guesswork and trolling. I'm looking for somewhere thats a bit more mature and helpful. [13:26] <leftyfb> !alis | Paddy1 [13:26] <ubottu> Paddy1: Alis is an IRC service to help you find channels. For help on using it, see "/msg Alis help list" or ask in #freenode. Example usage: "/msg Alis list http" [13:28] <Paddy1> Thanks didn't know this was a thing [13:28] <sigv> BT40, and if you run `tty` you will see which one you are on right now. assuming you have one `/dev/tty*` and two `/dev/pts` then you will probably see `/dev/pts/1` as your current terminal [13:29] <sigv> so you are two levels deep into ssh into your local machine. if you `exit` twice you will be back into your real `tty` [13:29] <sigv> or actually you probably have three PTSes. regardless, point of two levels deep in ssh still stands. [13:31] <BT40> okay :) [13:32] <BT40> Thanks sigv leftyfb tatertotz for guidance [13:37] <Aavar> LordChaos, tatertotz: I am having termorary storage issues. Why would it not work? What is wrong with the command? (Sorry for the late reply) [13:44] <analogical> how do I get root status in the terminal? [13:45] <legreffier> analogical: you usually prefix your commands with 'sudo'. [13:46] <analogical> legreffier, I want to become permanent root in the terminal [13:46] <sigv> you should not need that. and if you are in a position where you need that, you will generally know what to do. [13:46] <sigv> why do you want a root shell. [13:47] <legreffier> analogical: it's usually not needed, you can run "sudo -i" if you need a root shell. [13:48] <analogical> sudo -i was the solution [13:49] <nbusrone> Where can I find specific file source code implement on ubuntu file system ? [13:49] <ikonia> ? === benfrancis4 is now known as benfrancis [13:51] <nbusrone> ikonia : gnome-settings-daemon/gsd-power , because my brightness keep resetting when wake up need to find a way to fix it. [14:00] <qwertuttyty> oh guys eq!!!!!! I believe that PulseEffects should be included in the installation iso image of the file. [14:01] <qwertuttyty> ubuntu-mate 20.04 kernel 5.8... [14:02] <qwertuttyty> vmwareplayer host guest windows [14:02] <qwertuttyty> host win ubuntu guest [14:07] <ikonia> nbusrone: that gnome-settings stuff looks like it's about 3 repos worth of code with about 8 depending repos (roughly) [14:11] <nbusrone> ikonia : I am newbie , didn't about shell code , but at lease I wanted to look at the source code by asking someone here , because I had been facing weeks of brightness reset issue when I set my monitor return from power saving 'blankscreen' [14:11] <nbusrone> ikonia : not sure it's related about the code , which one trigger brightness reset ? https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-settings-daemon/blob/42fc617dbe0c40bc25d62626b6c874bfb1b95f6f/plugins/power/gsd-power-manager.c [14:14] <sigv> it is possible it´s a driver problem instead of a gnome problem, if it relates to power states. [14:14] <sigv> this does not happen that often in newer kernels but was a real pain ages ago. [14:15] <nbusrone> sigv : i am using nvidia driver , the case not only happen on blank screen , it reset during login , restart pc , logout , open a browser , right click just to delete a trash file [14:16] <sigv> could you skip using the proprietary driver to troubleshoot that being a possible culprit? [14:16] * sigv grumbles something about nvidia drivers [14:16] <nbusrone> sigv : i found some old post by disable gsdcolor start up does fix most of it but on blank screen still persist. [14:17] <sigv> nbusrone, is not using nvidia driver an option for you to troubleshoot? [14:17] <nbusrone> sigv : it happen at 14.04 until 20.04 still continue and when I check at nvidia driver forum , they said it's distro issue. [14:18] <nbusrone> sigv : i run on nouveau also having the same result of brightness reset. [14:19] <somerandomteen> Hi folks, I've got a weird issue that I'm sort of at my wit's end to solve - I wonder if anyone can help. On my Ubuntu 16.04.6 LTS server, systemctl is hanging indefinitely when performing any operations - start, stop, restart, whatever. It's fine showing status, but it won't do anything else. Tools that don't directly use it, like apache2ctl, are [14:19] <somerandomteen> unaffected; tools that do, though, like /etc/init.d/mysql, do. [14:19] <nbusrone> sigv : nope , i haven't tried yet , but as being test , if it is really nvidia driver issue , it should have a lot of user here having reporting as a bug. [14:20] <ikonia> nbusrone: I'm not sure what you're asking [14:20] <sigv> nbusrone, it could be some combination of the individual device and driver and other factors. i would suggest that test, to check for driver issues. [14:20] <legreffier> somerandomteen: mysql start/stop/restart can often be quite long [14:21] <sigv> ikonia, the code question is not the core problem. resolving brightness issues upon wake is the real question. [14:22] <ikonia> that seems more logical [14:22] <somerandomteen> legreffier, I know, but it's not just mysql that's affected; every service I've tried hangs indefinitely. apache2, a nodeJS server service, MySQL, certbot [14:22] <somerandomteen> even if I manually kill MySQL's processes entirely, systemctl still hangs indefinitely when running service stop on it [14:24] <legreffier> somerandomteen: what command do you precisely type ? [14:25] <Dr_Coke> Does anyone know if Cananicol will customize gnome appearance to look like windows [14:25] <vladoski> hey guys, what's the best way to have more than one python3 version on my ubuntu 20 lts? [14:25] <somerandomteen> I've tried both of `service [whateverservice] start` and `systemctl start [service]`, and various other flavours (different services, changing start to stop, etc) - all hang [14:25] <ikonia> Dr_Coke: seems unlikely [14:26] <Dr_Coke> ikonia, I mean give us a dash to taskbar and start menu etc but you're probably right seems unlikely [14:26] <qwertuttyty> why eq? my sound usb 4$ [14:26] <Dr_Coke> ikonia, the gnome developers might take offence [14:26] <somerandomteen> Inserting complete gubbins doesn't hang, interestingly (`systemctl start dfiaiaejfoajd` returns immediately with an error, like you'd expect) [14:26] <Dr_Coke> ikonia, seems whoever is in charge of gnome aren't flexible [14:26] <ikonia> Dr_Coke: that's not for this channel [14:26] <nbusrone> sigv ikonia : https://askubuntu.com/questions/1028940/why-does-xrandr-output-brightness-setting-not-persist-is-this-a-bug , https://github.com/LordAmit/Brightness/issues/102 it related to this issue.it's fix but not on blank screen [14:27] <qwertuttyty> not bad trought puylse 32 192khz but nee qe [14:27] <Dr_Coke> ikonia, which channel should I take it to [14:27] <ikonia> Dr_Coke: none [14:27] <qwertuttyty> pulse [14:27] <Dr_Coke> ikonia, lol [14:27] <qwertuttyty> need [14:27] <qwertuttyty> eq [14:27] <Dr_Coke> ikonia, are you a gnome developer [14:27] <ikonia> no [14:28] <oerheks> if there is a theme that looks like windows, we have a legal issue. [14:28] <qwertuttyty> not bad 16 48 trought pulse 32 192khz but need eq [14:29] <nbusrone> ikonia : are there a gnome dev channel here ? maybe it's much suitable to ask over there [14:29] <ikonia> nbusrone: I suspect not [14:29] <ikonia> nbusrone: filing and providing information to the bug reports is the best way [14:29] <qwertuttyty> cmedia 108 usb [14:29] <Dr_Coke> ikonia, Linux Mint does a really good job of ubuntu with Cinnamon perhaps Ubuntu should look at the way Cinnamon looks and apply it to gnome [14:29] <ikonia> but working the problem to understand it and provide good information is key [14:29] <ikonia> Dr_Coke: yeah, I'm sure, as I said not for this channel though [14:30] <coconut> Dr_Coke, ubuntu tried making their own DE with unity, but they stopped that eventually(and it did not look like windows) [14:30] <Dr_Coke> coconut, Unity looked very much like gnome standard [14:31] <coconut> yeah [14:31] <oerheks> cinnamon is in our repos too, Dr_Coke [14:31] <Dr_Coke> oerheks, yeah but gnome seems to have more effects [14:32] <Dr_Coke> oerheks I had ubuntu gnome installed and customized but I screwed something so then I decided to install mint 20 Cinnamon [14:33] <oerheks> mint is a waste of time, so you have no ubuntu support issue? [14:33] <Dr_Coke> oerheks, and gnome doesn't want to give me scaling on 4k [14:33] <Dr_Coke> with ubuntu [14:33] <oerheks> it does.. [14:34] <Dr_Coke> Mint gives me 4k scaling with my nvidia card however ubuntu with gnome would not [14:34] <oerheks> i am not interested in mint.don't waste mine, thanks. [14:35] <Dr_Coke> oerheks, do you develop for ubuntu? [14:37] <coconut> Dr_Coke, got mine 4k laptop to scale with ubuntu mate, dunno why it did not work for you on ubuntu gnome(i guess it should have) [14:37] <Dr_Coke> coconut, I think it's gnome [14:37] <Dr_Coke> coconut, mate is helped to be made by the linux mint team as well I believe [14:38] <coconut> Dr_Coke, ok but are not DE's always a mix of distro's ? [14:39] <coconut> *the developers i mean [14:40] <Dr_Coke> coconut, no idea [14:40] <Dr_Coke> I suppose so [14:40] <Dr_Coke> Something clearly went wrong in the gnome camp though [14:41] <Dr_Coke> Layout is utter rubbish [14:41] <ikonia> can we drop this please [14:41] <ikonia> it's not for this channel [14:41] <Dr_Coke> ok [14:41] <Dr_Coke> sorry [14:41] <ikonia> no problem [14:43] <geosmile> are there any good ubuntu based VMs that can pass through GPUs to guest OS=Windows? [14:44] <ikonia> the VM is not the problem [14:44] <ikonia> it's the hypervisor technology [14:44] <ikonia> thankfully most hypervisors support this now [14:44] <geosmile> ikonia, I'm using virtualbox - no gpu support [14:45] <geosmile> I want to be able to install nvidia drivers inside the VM [14:45] <ikonia> pretty sure that had hpu passthrough [14:45] <ikonia> https://docs.oracle.com/en/virtualization/virtualbox/6.0/admin/pcipassthrough.html#:~:text=The%20PCI%20passthrough%20module%20is,drivers%20for%20this%20particular%20device. [14:45] <geosmile> ikonia, in that case it does not share the gpu - it needs 2 gpus [14:46] <geosmile> I'd have to buy a new GPU for that one. [14:47] <ikonia> are you sure you're reading that right ? [14:47] <ikonia> (you could always use the gpu from the cpu to power the host and the nvidia gpu passthrough to the guest) [14:48] <geosmile> ikonia, I think it only allows the guest to use the gpu - not the host [14:48] <qwertuttyty> resample-method = speex-float-9 [14:48] <oerheks> maybe vmware Sphere is a better solution, vmware workstation 15 does not. [14:48] <ikonia> geosmile: I don't think that's true [14:48] <ikonia> but even if that was the case, use the cpu gpu for the host [14:49] <geosmile> ikonia, i'd like to use the gpu on both guest and host. It is a beefy gpu [14:49] <quadrathoch2> geosmile which gpu do you have? nvidia is notorious for disabling it on consumer hardware [14:49] <ikonia> I'm pretty sure you can - I'm %70 sure I've done this on vbox [14:50] <geosmile> quadrathoch2, rtx 2080 [14:50] <Zewwy> I might be missing something here, I'm running Ubuntu 20.04 desktop live, and I'm connected to the internet, but when I type apt-get install vlan as root, it says it can't find a package vlan [14:50] <quadrathoch2> moot, can't do it geosmile [14:50] <Zewwy> how do I do vlan tagging on Ubuntu 20.04 desktop? [14:51] <quadrathoch2> Zewwy did you apt update? [14:51] <Zewwy> i sure did [14:51] <quadrathoch2> oh it's in universe you would need to enable universe repo Zewwy [14:51] <Zewwy> ERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR [14:51] <oerheks> live iso, run apt update.. and are you sure vlan is available? [14:51] <oerheks> !info vlan [14:51] <ubottu> vlan (source: vlan): ifupdown integration for vlan configuration. In component universe, is extra. Version 2.0.4ubuntu1.20.04.1 (focal), package size 11 kB, installed size 49 kB [14:51] <Zewwy> that same thing screwed me lasttime [14:52] <Zewwy> so annoying [14:52] <tatertotz> Zewwy: are you %100 certain "vlan" is a valid package name? [14:52] <oerheks> sudo add-apt-repository universe .. but why from live iso? [14:52] <Zewwy> cause I only use linux randomly live [14:52] <Zewwy> just my preffered [14:52] <Zewwy> thanks quadrathoch2 ' [14:52] <tatertotz> Zewwy: double check you are using valid names [14:53] <Zewwy> its valid just the universe repo not enabled by default [14:53] <Zewwy> super annoying [14:53] <oerheks> no, it is by design [14:53] <Zewwy> to me an annoying design, i like functionalty thats easy, and it often skipped in blogs [14:55] <jhassell_> What is the name of the utility that can insist you use the alias form of your commands? === kostkon_ is now known as kostkon [15:11] <gimzmoe> I need a clue on how to make a rogue kernel process behave. kworker/0:1+usb_hub_wq & kworker/0:1+pm share the same PID, I've got 0 interrupt hits in /sys/firmware/acpi/interrupts, which seems the be the most likely cause for others, but not in my case [15:16] <ComputerTech> hello [15:16] <ComputerTech> i am instaling sendmail [15:16] <ComputerTech> and get this error [15:16] <ComputerTech> WARNING: local host name (localhost) is not qualified; see cf/README: WHO AM I? [15:16] <ComputerTech> actually a warning [15:16] <ComputerTech> what can i do to fix this? [15:17] <quadrathoch2> ComputerTech well what is your hostname? [15:18] <Zewwy> whats returned when you type hostname? [15:18] <ComputerTech> computertech [15:18] <ComputerTech> computertech [15:18] <Zewwy> thats not fully quakified [15:18] <Zewwy> qualified? [15:18] <ComputerTech> hmm? [15:19] <ComputerTech> i just types hostname [15:19] <ComputerTech> and got computertech back [15:19] <quadrathoch2> ComputerTech normally a fully qualified hostname is required. like computertech.com [15:19] <Zewwy> it's been a long time since I played with sendmail, not sure if it builds a FQDN from the hostname and domain name [15:20] <ComputerTech> ok [15:20] <ComputerTech> perhaps it's [15:20] <ComputerTech> mail.technet.xi.ht [15:20] <ComputerTech> thats what my friend told me [15:20] <ComputerTech> where do i edit it? [15:20] <Zewwy> quadrathoch2: thats what I figured but wasn't sure if it could be FQ by addition of a known domain name the system is joined to, if at all [15:20] <ComputerTech> in the specified path? [15:20] <quadrathoch2> Zewwy afaik it should work [15:21] <ComputerTech> so... i edit this file? [15:21] <ComputerTech> readme [15:21] <ComputerTech> ? [15:21] <ComputerTech> i have never used this stuff before really [15:21] <ComputerTech> more of a windows guy [15:21] <Zewwy> or just use the hostname cmd? [15:22] <Zewwy> hostname newname.com [15:22] <ComputerTech> root@computertech:/etc# hostname [15:22] <ComputerTech> computertech [15:22] <oerheks> hostname should be set in 2 places [15:22] <ComputerTech> i did do that [15:22] <oerheks> !hostname [15:22] <ubottu> Use hostname <somehostname> to set the hostname, or to do it permanently: edit /etc/hosts to include BOTH the old and new hostname and then change /etc/hostname to the new one. WARNING! Make sure that your current hostname and /etc/hosts match, otherwise sudo may not work properly. [15:22] <Zewwy> intersting... [15:23] <Zewwy> hostname should be appended with a -p option to do those edit for the user [15:23] <oerheks> with systemd it is hostnamectl, IIRC [15:24] <oerheks> hostnamectl status [15:24] <ComputerTech> so i type hostname mail.technet.xi.ht [15:24] <ComputerTech> ? [15:24] <oerheks> but this does not survive reboot. [15:24] <Zewwy> ^^ [15:26] <DDinTV> I have an old Acer Aspire (circa 2012) with a 1Ghz processor. Any suggestions on the best governor to use? [15:28] <oerheks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkConfigurationCommandLine/Automatic#Setting.2Fchanging_the_hostname [15:28] <oerheks> have fun with the reading, ComputerTech [15:28] <tomreyn> DDinTV: default is usually fine. low latency kernel may be desirable. also a new computer. [15:29] <ComputerTech> ok [15:29] <ComputerTech> Thanks oerheks :) [15:29] <tomreyn> DDinTV: which cpu architecture does it have, how much ram, which ubuntu release are you running or planning to run there? [15:30] <ComputerTech> oerheks, [15:30] <ComputerTech> will that guide work for ubuntu 20 ? [15:30] <coconut> DDinTV, are you sure with 1GHz? I remember at 2003 we had faster cpu's already... [15:30] <DDinTV> Running Linux Lite v20, AMD dual-core, 4GB RAM. [15:31] <DDinTV> 64-bit. [15:31] <coconut> although i might be wrong seeing [15:33] <tomreyn> DDinTV: and which ubuntu release do you plan to run? [15:33] <ComputerTech> ? [15:38] <DDinTV> AMD C-60 APU. Dual-core 800Mhz min, 1Ghz max. Running Linux Lite 5.0. Base is Ubuntu 20.04 LTS. [15:38] <quadrathoch2> yes ComputerTech [15:39] <ComputerTech> ok thanks [15:39] <ComputerTech> :D [15:39] <DDinTV> Laptop. [15:40] <tomreyn> DDinTV: this channel only supports actual ubuntu installations. [15:40] <DDinTV> Oops. Sorry. [15:41] <tomreyn> no worries. you could try ##linux or whatever 'linux lite' has for support [15:42] <DDinTV> Thanks! Will check it out. Doesn't look like there's a channel specific to Linux Lite. [15:43] <DDinTV> So many distros. So little time :) [15:56] <Harlin> Is there any way to clear the Google Chrome search box -- not necessarily my search history [15:56] <Harlin> For instance if I'm looking up something on a Zoom call I don't want everyone knowing about my weird ass search habits. [15:57] <Harlin> especially at work. [15:57] <tomreyn> for third party software, it's best to get support with the third parties' preferred support channels. [15:58] <Harlin> yeah I dont' see one so I figured you guys use Chrome like I do on #Ubuntu [15:58] <Harlin> any ideas? [15:58] <Harlin> Googling seems to point that this can't be done. [16:00] <tomreyn> there is https://support.google.com/chrome/community [16:04] <yuta> Hi . snapd writes much, Is it usual? [16:05] <tomreyn> depends. what do you mean by "writes much"? does it send you e-mails? [16:41] <Floflobel_> Hello, I'm trying to install Ubuntu server 20.04 on a PowerEdge R730 server via idrac. But each time I start the installation it launches an integrity check that I can't pass and that seems really long. I tried to re-download the image and check the hash but the file is not corrupted. Paste: https://paste.centos.org/view/d0ef1ac1 [16:54] <tomreyn> Floflobel_: you verified the iso image downloaded properly. have you also verified that it was written to the installer media properly? [16:57] <agile_prg> what is the easiest way to setup a vncserver on ubuntu? [16:58] <aleph-> So recently heard about the rub2 vuln and the fix that seems to be bricking hosts upon reboot. Just curious if: 1) The bug in the fix causing failure to boot is in the version being released for Ubuntu 18. 2) If it is, is there a way I can ensure unattended-upgrades doesn't pull it down? [16:59] <aleph-> Ah seems it's affecting Ubuntu 18. Lovely [16:59] <tomreyn> agile_prg: on a desktop? you go to settings, sharing, click on "on" top-right, click on screen sharing, ensure it'S set up as you need it. optionally enable "remote login", too, if you'd like to tunnel vnc through ssh. [16:59] <tomreyn> aleph-: bug 1889509 [16:59] <ubottu> bug 1889509 in grub2 (Ubuntu) "grub boot error : "symbol 'grub_calloc' not found" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1889509 [16:59] <tomreyn> !YY.MM | aleph- [16:59] <ubottu> aleph-: Ubuntu version numbers are: YY.MM (YY=release year,MM=release month). Each year sees two releases, so just specifying YY is imprecise. See also https://www.ubuntu.com/about/release-cycle [16:59] <aleph-> Yep, git it open in my browser [17:00] <aleph-> got* [17:00] <aleph-> And fair, 18.04LTS [17:00] <agile_prg> tomreyn I only have ssh access [17:00] <agile_prg> is there some easy to enable it from the command line? [17:01] <aleph-> If I'm reading it right, it's package version 2.04 for associated grub packages ya? [17:01] <aleph-> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1889509/comments/3 [17:01] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1889509 in grub2 (Ubuntu) "grub boot error : "symbol 'grub_calloc' not found" [High,Confirmed] [17:02] <pavlos> agile_prg: https://askubuntu.com/questions/304017/how-to-set-up-remote-desktop-sharing-through-ssh [17:02] <tomreyn> agile_prg: i'm not sure. you used to be able to do X forwarding and configure the vino VNC server that way. [17:02] <tomreyn> exactly that [17:03] <tomreyn> but i think someone stated recently this doesn't work on 20.04. i have not tried to verify this. [17:06] <agile_prg> I have tightvncserver running but the instructions want me to install xfce, can I just start gnome in there? [17:08] <compdoc> sadly, remote desktop requires a 2d desktop, which I dont think gnome has these days [17:08] <compdoc> I use ubuntu mate [17:08] <compdoc> and x2go is a lot better than vnc [17:09] <agile_prg> I have not heard of x2go [17:10] <compdoc> I like it because th clipboard works to copy and paste to the remote desktop and back [17:20] <pavlos> agile_prg: there's also nomachine, install on both local and remote systems, https://www.nomachine.com/download/linux&id=1 [17:21] <agile_prg> I have not heard of nomachine [17:22] <pavlos> agile_prg: similar to x2go, local/remote talk over port 4000 [17:23] <pavlos> agile_prg: https://www.saashub.com/compare-x2go-vs-nomachine [17:26] <agile_prg> I figured it out, special thanks to all who helped! [17:27] <blazed> ;) [17:28] <MikeRL> Anyone know if boothole can be remotely exploited? I'm curious because I'm not very well versed in security and I know someone who asked because they have servers that are up. Patching it requires a reboot. [17:28] <MikeRL> At least that's my assumption for them asking. I am pretty sure physically the servers are ok. [17:29] <MikeRL> I ofc know the patch requires a reboot because it's the bootloader and I've patched it on my laptop [17:31] <tomreyn> should be boot loader and kernel. and not remotely exploitable from what i've read. ask in #ubuntu-hardened to get more than a random idiots opinion. [17:32] <Zewwy> I like random idiot opinions [17:32] <MikeRL> random "idiot"'s opinion is better than nothing. thanks. [17:33] <Maik_aD> MikeRL: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/KnowledgeBase/GRUB2SecureBootBypass [17:33] <Maik_aD> if that is it^ [17:36] <leftyfb> Zewwy: can we help you with something? [17:37] <Zewwy> nope my issues so far have been resolved, just here to hear some random opinions :P [17:38] <Maik_aD> Zewwy: offtopic and discuss are suited for that :) [17:39] <Zewwy> https://tom-henderson.github.io/2019/04/12/ubuntu-vlan-config.html [17:39] <Zewwy> I'm following this I don't seem to have an inffaces.d folder under /etc/network [17:40] <Zewwy> i guess i have to use if-up.d? [17:41] <Zewwy> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/focal/man5/vlan-interfaces.5.html [17:41] <Zewwy> this one also mentions /etc/network/interfaces ... why do I not have this folder? [17:42] <tomreyn> maybe you're on an ubuntu version which no longer uses it [17:42] <Zewwy> 20.04 [17:42] <tomreyn> hard to tell for us since we don'T know what you'Re running [17:42] <pavlos> /e/n/interfaces is a file [17:42] <Zewwy> I clicked 20.04 LTS on the top nav, same info [17:42] <tomreyn> or didn't [17:42] <Zewwy> ok why do I not have this file [17:42] <Zewwy> Ubuntu Desktop 20.04 [17:43] <tomreyn> you'll be using netplan or network-manager [17:43] <tomreyn> the latter then [17:43] <Zewwy> i love change [17:43] <Zewwy> specially docuemntation good enough to kee up with said change [17:43] <tomreyn> so you read the release notes? [17:43] <Zewwy> is there a better reference for me to follow? [17:43] <pavlos> you're using netplan, see /etc/netplan/01-network..... [17:44] <leftyfb> Zewwy: https://netplan.io/examples [17:44] <leftyfb> Zewwy: https://ubuntu.com/blog/ubuntu-bionic-netplan [17:45] <leftyfb> Zewwy: the documentation is there. You just have to look for it [17:45] <Zewwy> it's painful, when you google "How to do vlan tagging on Ubuntu" and there is a whole wack of not proper info? [17:46] <Zewwy> or should I say a lot of mixed info [17:47] <tdm4> Hi.. I had to switch my mother's desktop from GNOME (3) to LXDE.. now, Chromium won't save passwords anymore, and I am seeing: gnome-keyring-daemon[2539]: couldn't access control socket: /run/user/1000/keyring/control: No such file or directory Any way to fix this so it works again? [17:48] <tdm4> gnome-keyring is running as the user, cmdline: /usr/bin/gnome-keyring-daemon --start --foreground --components=secrets [17:48] <tdm4> any ideas how to get it to access the already saved passwords? [17:48] <tdm4> I ran seahorse and it sees them [17:48] <Sven_vB> tdm4, check /proc/???/fd whether it has the socket opened. also check file/folder permissions [17:49] <Sven_vB> tdm4, you can also run the keyring daemon in a terminal to see its error output. maybe you can also find logs of the currently running instance. [17:49] <tomreyn> very old but may still apply https://askubuntu.com/questions/243210/why-do-i-get-this-warning-from-gnome-keyring-in-xubuntu [17:50] <tdm4> Sven_vB: gnome-keyring runs as user: /usr/bin/gnome-keyring-daemon --daemonize --login [17:50] <Sven_vB> tdm4, yeah I've read that [17:51] <Sven_vB> tdm4, it could still serve another socket that had the same path in the file system but is now deleted [17:52] <Sven_vB> tdm4, in /proc/<process id>/fd you can see which files the processes currently hold open, even for deleted files. [17:52] <tdm4> systemd[1]: session-c2.scope: Killing process 3209 (gnome-keyring-d) with signal SIGTERM. gnome-keyring-daemon[4025]: couldn't access control socket: /run/user/1000/keyring/control: No such file or directory [17:52] <tdm4> ok having a look [17:53] <Sven_vB> tdm4, in some cases you can even use that to recover files you accidentially deleted. :-) [17:53] <pavlos> Zewwy: http://www.confignotes.com/2017/10/ubuntu-802-1q-vlan-tagging/ [17:53] <Zewwy> thanks pavlos [17:54] <Zewwy> https://askubuntu.com/questions/992428/netplan-with-multiple-vlans-on-single-interface-help-needed [17:54] <Zewwy> was reading this one [17:54] <Zewwy> completely different than the ubuntu man pages [17:54] <tdm4> Sven_vB: well it's got 12 files open. 7 of them sockets [17:55] <tdm4> /run/user/1000/keyring/control type=STREAM is one of them [18:00] <tdm4> if I open seahorse, I can see the 'default keyring' unlocked with entries of 'Chrome Safe Storage Control'.. but Chromium has no saved passwords in it [18:00] <tomreyn> Zewwy: your confusion about 'the ubuntu man pages' is mostly because you didn't read the release notes and this haven't learnt that ifupdown (and /etc/network/interfaces) has been deprecated (but is still available, including its man page) in favor of netplan for servers, or just network-manager for desktops.. [18:00] <tomreyn> s/this/thus/ [18:00] <Zewwy> That info should be noted in the man pages [18:00] <Zewwy> if something changes, note it [18:01] <Zewwy> thanks for the extra details, and clarification [18:01] <tomreyn> that's what releas enotes are for. man pages refer to source packages, they will always try their best at explainig how to use this very software, but not explain a distros' buig picture. [18:02] <Zewwy> much apprciated [18:02] <tomreyn> *big picture [18:02] <tdm4> I think I found the cause.. Chromium spits out in terminal when you run it: ERROR:password_sync_bridge.cc(360)] Passwords datatype error was encountered: Failed to load entries from password store. Encryption service failure. [18:02] <Zewwy> When you follow a man page and there'es a discepancy, which there totally was here, and the fact server/and desktop have different managers, those are very helpful tid bits to add to the man pages [18:03] <Zewwy> instead expecting someone to read every releaese notes aor dig through them looking for a needle in hay stack [18:05] <tatertotz> Zewwy: desktop includes many managers...server to an extent expect the system administrator to "manage" [18:05] <tatertotz> Zewwy: just FYI [18:05] <Zewwy> totally [18:06] <quantum> How do I ask apt, which linux kernel I have installed? [18:07] <tatertotz> quantum: why ask apt?..."uname" with a "-a" [18:08] <quantum> jnewt I know, but that doesn't tell me the specific package. I'm in ARM-land and it could be one of 5 different flavors. [18:08] <leftyfb> quantum: apt list --installed |grep linux-image # will give you a good indication [18:08] <coconut> quantum, dpkg -l linux-* ? [18:09] <coconut> oh.. sorry ^ [18:09] <quantum> leftyfb: That doesn't show installed packages. [18:09] <leftyfb> quantum: yes, it does [18:10] <quantum> No, I'm not running 5.3. [18:10] <leftyfb> quantum: installed != running [18:10] <Zewwy> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/vlan [18:10] <Zewwy> yes this worked and was so easy, though it did mention that vconfig is deprciated? [18:10] <quantum> And it's not showing the version I am running. [18:11] <leftyfb> quantum: ARM could be different. Depending on the flavor, the kernel could be called something different or be part of some firmware package [18:11] <leftyfb> quantum: what version of ubuntu is this? [18:11] <quantum> Bionic [18:11] <leftyfb> Zewwy: that article is outdated and does not include netplan configs [18:11] <Zewwy> which is fine [18:11] <Zewwy> im doing this on a live instance and only need it temp [18:12] <Zewwy> so its perfect [18:12] <quantum> I'm running 4.9.213-67 but want to switch to 5.3.0-1030.32~18.04.2 [18:12] <agile_prg> ok, got a crazy problem I need miracle to fix, I have an ubuntu 16 virtual box trying to bootup and I see something like orphaned inode then it tries to continue then just abnormally shuts off [18:12] <agile_prg> it is using a vmdk [18:13] <agile_prg> my only idea is the vmdk is corrupted somehow and I need to somehow run fsck on it [18:13] <Maik_aD> quantum: 5.4.X because 5.3 kernel is EOL [18:13] <quantum> ... but every method I try shows the only 4 version is 4.9.230-74. Well that's not what I'm running either. [18:13] <Maik_aD> quantum: enable HWE [18:14] <quantum> Maik_aD: That would be wonderful, if it were in the repo. [18:14] <leftyfb> quantum: why do you care about the 4.9 kernels if you are trying to switch to 5.3? [18:14] <tomreyn> agile_prg: there's no "ubuntu 16" [18:14] <Maik_aD> quantum: HWE isn't in the repo, you have to enable it [18:14] <Zewwy> agile_prg: a vmdk is a vmware virual disk, no? [18:14] <quadrathoch2> quantum could it be that you are running some weird hardware? arm maybe? [18:15] <quantum> leftyfb: Because I could be running linux--image-generic, linux-image-raspi,, or any of 3 others. [18:15] <tomreyn> quantum: maybe you'r enot actually running ubuntu then [18:15] <quantum> I need to know what Odroid has specified for this board. So I need to know what kernel package I am now running, so I can insyall a similar updated one. [18:16] <agile_prg> I got it to book after going to recovery mode and saying boot normally [18:16] <leftyfb> quantum: uname -a # tells you your running kernel [18:16] <quadrathoch2> quantum you are probably stuck with 4.9 as bionic came out with 4.15. arm boards (where your odroid is based upon) has very bad support upstream [18:17] <tomreyn> packages where installed kernel images came from: dpkg -S /boot/vmlinuz-* | cut -d: -f1 [18:17] <quantum> 'tomreyn You mean I don't know what OS I'm running? What kind of place is this? snohomish planning and development apply building permit [18:18] <quantum> https://wiki.odroid.com/odroid-n2/os_images/ubuntu#ubuntu_18044_mate_desktop [18:18] <leftyfb> I'm pretty sure Ubuntu never shipped a 4.9 kernel with 18.04 [18:18] <tomreyn> quantum: i'm suggesting that you *may* be running some ubuntu derivative, which states it is ubuntu but really isn't. and your link seems to confirm this. [18:18] <leftyfb> quantum: that is not an official release of ubuntu [18:18] <quantum> Ubuntu 18.04.4 (MATE DESKTOP) is what I'm running. [18:19] <tomreyn> or what it states it is [18:19] <quantum> Oh so official releases can't tell what kernel package they're running? [18:19] <leftyfb> quantum: You are not running an official release [18:19] <tomreyn> official releaseas are downloaded from ubuntu.com and the other flavours websites [18:19] <tomreyn> !flavors [18:19] <ubottu> Recognized Ubuntu flavors build on Ubuntu and provide a different user experience out of the box. They are supported both in #ubuntu and in their flavor channel. For a list, see https://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu-flavours [18:19] <quantum> Oh so UNofficial releases can't tell what kernel package they're running? [18:20] <oerheks> quantum, lolz.. [18:20] <leftyfb> quantum: don't know, we don't support unofficial releases here. That is up to the distro maintainer [18:20] <tomreyn> after all we couldn't know how those were put together [18:20] <quantum> This looks like a waste of time. I need professionals. [18:21] <oerheks> quantum, lolz.. you need glasses. [18:21] <tomreyn> yes, talk directly to those supporting your image [18:21] <leftyfb> quantum: you need Odroid support professionals. [18:21] <quantum> No, I need someone with a reasonable command of Ubongo dpkg system. [18:22] <Zewwy> lol === dominic35 is now known as dominic34 [18:24] <leftyfb> not a troll at all [18:24] <tdm4> Sven_vB: found the cause! Password store in chromium got screwed up: https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=607882 [18:25] <tdm4> had to remove the entries from gnome-keyring (with seahorse) while chromium was closed.. and remove 'Login Data*' from the profile [18:25] <tdm4> storing them properly now [18:25] <tdm4> what a palaver! [19:01] <rr123> default virtualbox on ubuntu 20.04 failed to install ubuntu 20.04 server, without no local modifications whatsoever [19:02] <rr123> s/no/any [19:02] <Zewwy> Any specific eror, or logs lines? [19:03] <rr123> nothing in particular, I sent the full report to canonical [19:04] <rr123> it just says failed to install, in the middle is does say subiquity has an update to use, which I skipped(tried it first, and failed) [19:05] <rr123> download guest addition and see if that helps [19:05] <tatertotz> rr123: which version of virtualbox? [19:06] <rr123> 6.1.10 the default on 20.04 [19:06] <rr123> trying to make life simpler and I just use the default stuff for now [19:08] <blazed> when did the install fail? did the vb install fail or did the install of ubuntu server fail after the configuration etc? [19:10] <tatertotz> rr123: virtualbox itself installed fine...you are failing at deploying a GuestOS/VM correct? [19:10] <tatertotz> rr123: probably want to re clarify that [19:10] <blazed> yea ;) [19:10] <blazed> agreed [19:11] <rr123> vbox is fine, what's the system requirement for server, I gave it 1GB/10GB [19:11] <rr123> just reboot vbox and it can't start the live-server.iso [19:11] <rr123> trying to find sha1sum for iso now [19:11] <tatertotz> rr123: ok thanks...that clears that up...you are unable to deploy a GuestOS of Ubuntu 20.xx server edition [19:12] <rr123> yes thanks [19:12] <rr123> sha1sum is correct, why can't it boot is beyond me [19:13] <blazed> do you not get any errors? [19:13] <rr123> a verbose report file which I sent to Canonical but a quick read found nothing standing out, still trying [19:13] <rr123> restarting again [19:14] <blazed> and you have configured virtualbox correctly regarding the hard drive, cpu, ram network etc .. bot devices and .iso to boot from? [19:15] <blazed> boot* [19:15] <tatertotz> rr123: are you chatting from the computer right now? [19:15] <rr123> yes, i used vbox for years [19:15] <tatertotz> rr123: in terminal> inxi -Fxxprzc0|nc termbin.com 9999 [19:16] <blazed> ok sorry just wanted to check that's all :) [19:16] <tatertotz> rr123: share url/link here..if you do not get a url/link...simply say so [19:16] <rr123> failed again, only two steps I changed: 1. install openssh server 2. refused to upgrade subiquity (because it will fail anyways) [19:16] <blazed> .. so it's failing "during the install" ? [19:17] <tatertotz> rr123: if not installed follow instructions to install then follow through [19:17] <tomreyn> maybe 1 GB is not enough for live-updating the live-installer [19:17] <rr123> blazed: right after it starts to install, let me find the full report [19:18] <blazed> yea i was gonna say try assigning more resource to the server prior to install [19:18] <blazed> it sounds like a resource issue if it's cutting out during the install process etc [19:22] <rr123> ok, will bump RAM to 2GB, meanwhile it says "Failed to fetch ..." some Hash sum mismatch, then "curtin command in-target, curtin failed with exception" [19:24] <tomreyn> rr123: this sounds like you need to verify the iso checksums [19:24] <tomreyn> oh you did [19:24] <tomreyn> yes, ram then [19:25] <sarnold> rr123: are you getting hash sum mismatches often? [19:25] <rr123> never [19:30] <blazed> any luck after the ram increase? [19:31] <tarrie> is rhythmbox able to determine album/artist from the directory the mp3s are in? i imported my library and its all "01 track, 02 track" e.g. [19:31] <rr123> nope [19:31] <rr123> googling, some had similar issue(curtin command in-target ..stuck) in 18.04.3 on real Dell machine and had to change BIOS to UTC [19:32] <rr123> this is actually my first time failing to install ubuntu, for the last 15 years that is [19:32] <tomreyn> tarrie: probably not, i'd expect it to read id3 tags but not that [19:33] <tarrie> tomreyn, thx anyway [19:34] <tomreyn> rr123: you could try a recent daily build, or try again after the 20.04.1 release on aug 6th [19:36] <rr123> reboot again, this time it allows subiquity upgrade at the start [19:36] <tomreyn> rr123: maybe also try virtualbox from the upstream apt repository. i switched to that a good while ago since the deb's in ubuntu had too many bugs. [19:37] <tomreyn> (in universe, so community maintained) [19:37] <rr123> ok after 6 tries i gave up [19:37] <rr123> let me try a different virtualbox [19:40] <blazed> tomreyn indeed! you need the correct rep for it to work correctly. [19:40] <blazed> rr123 do: sudo add-apt-repository multiverse && sudo apt-get update [19:40] <blazed> then install vb [19:41] <blazed> sudo apt install virtualbox [19:41] <blazed> using the software manager to install it might not have worked correctly. Just a thought [19:43] <tomreyn> oh it's multiverse, not universe. but my suggestion would be the builds from virtualbox.org [19:43] <blazed> yep and ensure the vm is configured correctly. Sounds like a resource issue to me [19:44] <blazed> or misconfiguration [19:45] <blazed> or could potentially be a nested issue if the primary os running the vb install is a vm lol xD - logs logs logs ;) [19:47] <quadrathoch2> does somebody have the bug# for the grub2 issue? [19:48] <EriC^^> quadrathoch2: this one https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1889509 ? [19:48] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1889509 in grub2 (Ubuntu) "grub boot error : "symbol 'grub_calloc' not found" [High,Confirmed] [19:48] <quadrathoch2> thanks EriC^^ [19:49] <EriC^^> np [19:49] <quadrathoch2> got a grub2 update which has a higher number than the post by canonical, so I ask myself if it could be fixed [19:50] <oerheks> quadrathoch2, yes, [19:50] <oerheks> Version 2.02-2ubuntu8.17: [19:50] <oerheks> * debian/postinst.in: Avoid calling grub-install on upgrade of the grub-pc [19:50] <oerheks> package, since we cannot be certain that it will install to the correct [19:50] <oerheks> disk and a grub-install failure will render the system unbootable. [19:50] <oerheks> LP: #1889556. [19:50] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1889556 in grub2 (Ubuntu Groovy) "grub-install failure does not fail package upgrade (and does not roll back to matching modules)" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1889556 [19:51] <oerheks> oops [19:51] <quadrathoch2> ahh great thanks :) [19:52] <oerheks> have fun! [20:10] <GKirchhoff> I had to do a fresh install of W10 on a separate drive and it decided to put its EFI files on the existing EFI partition that my Ubuntu install uses. Ubunutu is on nvme0n1, W10 is on sdc and they share an EFI partition on nvme0n1. I need to split the EFI partition so that windows could still boot if the ssd that Ubuntu is on is removed or vice [20:11] <GKirchhoff> versa. The plan was to just use gparted make space on the windows drive and clone the efi partition, afterwards removing the linux and windows parts respectively. Anyone have either a better solution or a idea of how to go about this? [20:11] <rr123> install vbox 6.1.12 from oracle, still failed the same way, tried 18.04.4 server, got stuck too, might be a vbox issue [20:15] <rjwiii> I just got a notification in Ubuntu 20.04.1 and it disappeared too quickly for me to read it ... is there a notification "history"? [20:17] <oerheks> open the date 'button' on the top panel, notifications are stored there [20:18] <EriC^^> GKirchhoff: could you pastebin 'sudo parted -ls' ? [20:20] <GKirchhoff> EriC^^ https://pastebin.com/sHWzX90S [20:27] <EriC^^> GKirchhoff: you could resize the ntfs by around 300mb at it's end and create a fat32 partition there [20:28] <GKirchhoff> EriC^^ So I'm in the clear to just move shit around as long as the flags and filesystem are set, right? [20:28] <EriC^^> GKirchhoff: if you still have the windows install media you could then boot it and go to advanced options, mount the relevant partitions using diskpart and then install the efi files and stuff [20:28] <EriC^^> yeah [20:29] <GKirchhoff> EriC^^: Great. thats what I thought, but the last time I assumed, I bricked both my windows and ubuntu installs. And killed the hdd they were on. [20:29] <Napk1n> "/etc/init.d/cron stop" Is this supposed to stop currently running cronjobs? [20:30] <Napk1n> if not is there a way to stop all running cronjobs with 1 command? [20:46] <Kali_Yuga> Hello somebody using anydesk? I would like to turn off automatic startup but I can't seem to find the setting where to turn it off? it doesn't show up in 'startup and shutdown' in KDE settings :(? [20:48] <agile_prg> hi all, I am looking for an ubuntu lite linux appliance to download with desktop, anyone know of any? [20:48] <agile_prg> smaller the better [20:57] <Kali_Yuga> I didn't find that setting inside anydesk anywhere which is stupid, but I added it in 'Startup and shutdown' and disabled it in there that way, hopefully that did it.. I'll see next time i restart. [20:58] <Kali_Yuga> when* [21:00] <Kali_Yuga> is there an easy to use free software replacement for teamviewer or anydesk? I found several but they are very hard to set up... === glguy is now known as Guest13120 === glguy_ is now known as glguy [21:01] <sarnold> Kali_Yuga: what do teamviewer or anydesk do? [21:05] <agile_prg> is there some fast way to download a virtualbox ubuntu appliance osboxes.org is very slow [21:15] <sarnold> agile_prg: perhaps http://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/focal/current/ ? looks like there's an .ova file in there, the description says "VMware/Virtualbox OVA" [21:18] <agile_prg> sarnold I need the desktop please [21:19] <sarnold> oh, hmm, good question. is vagrant still around? does that download virtualbox things? [21:21] <Kali_Yuga> sarnold: teamviewer and anydesk, uhm desktop sharing, remote control applications [21:22] <sarnold> Kali_Yuga: aha; remmina perhaps? I hear about it sometimes [21:23] <leftyfb> Kali_Yuga: why do they need to be free software? Do they do what you need? [21:23] <leftyfb> Kali_Yuga: AFAIK, there'sno OSS versions to speak of. Nothing commercial anyway. [21:23] <Kali_Yuga> sarnold: yes but idk very hard to set up to complicated :? [21:24] <sarnold> Kali_Yuga: I'm not sure, I've never used it [21:25] <Kali_Yuga> sarnold: probably works fine, but it's weird. I've tried it once but I didn't get it... [21:25] <sarnold> oh :/ [21:31] <Kali_Yuga> why free software? because I just prefer free software. If I have no choice yeah I need to use proprietary software but if there is an alternative that does the same thing, I use that instead... [21:31] <Kali_Yuga> leftyfb: [21:35] <Kali_Yuga> and yes anydesk does what I need it to do... before I was using teamviewer, but they blocked my access because they tell me that I use it commercially. I had to contact teamviewer that I use it privately which they eventually freed my account again [21:36] <Kali_Yuga> but now it happend again where it says "commercial use detected" and I just got tired off it and now use Anydesk instead [22:00] <AppAraat[m]> on 18.04... does this update have the potential of making my system unbootable? https://paste.debian.net/1158507/ [22:00] <AppAraat[m]> context: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23999212 [22:01] <tomreyn> run with -V and you'll see versions [22:06] <AppAraat[m]> oh, that's a handy flag. Thanks! Here's the output of that: https://paste.debian.net/1158512/ [22:08] <oerheks> new grub2 update is out, not on USN i see.. [22:10] <sarnold> AppAraat[m]: 2.02-2ubuntu8.17 is the latest version released a few hours ago https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/bionic-changes/2020-July/028427.html to try to help people with incorrectly-configured legacy booting systems continue to boot correctly [22:14] <tomreyn> lots of people are mixing the security bug(s) which is about secure boot bypass, with the problem where incorrectly-configured legacy booting systems fail to boot [22:15] <AppAraat[m]> oh, I hope I have it configured correctly. I just have it all on 1 disk currently. [22:16] <tomreyn> then it should be easy for you to just run grub-install against where you want the boot loader once more before you reboot [22:17] <tomreyn> actually run dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc [22:17] <sarnold> I think that's half the problem -- folks using grub-install to install to a device without having the correct placement known to debconf. I've seen sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc suggested as the solution [22:19] <tomreyn> so this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/KnowledgeBase/GRUB2SecureBootBypass#Existing_Cloud_.2F_MAAS_instances_may_fail_reboot [22:19] <AppAraat[m]> I'll update my backup data before doing that just in case. [22:22] <Tripknotix> hello ubunto crowd, i am fairly new to linux, we are trying to use it at work, we have a monitor from our warehouse that we have attached to our box with a relatively new version of ubuntu on it, however the touch screen doesnt seem to work, and i am not sure how or where to get the driver, this is the model number i found in the back LCD12WVGAXTS [22:22] <Tripknotix> LCD12WVGAXTS [22:22] <Tripknotix> and this is the web page i found from googling it, https://millertech.com/product/lcd12wvgax/ [22:23] <Tripknotix> i am told that its possible that if linux doesnt see it, it may not work at all [22:25] <sarnold> is that ps/2 connector for the touch screen? [22:26] <Tripknotix> its usb for the touch screen [22:26] <Tripknotix> thats svideo [22:26] <pavlos> looks like an S-video connector [22:26] <sarnold> ahhhh [22:27] <sarnold> does lsusb show the touch screen? [22:27] <oerheks> might work best with HDMI? [22:27] <oerheks> even it is not full 1080i [22:28] <Tripknotix> we are using hdmi [22:28] <pavlos> nope, not svideo (4 pins) but this connector shows 8 pins [22:28] <Tripknotix> lsusb is a command? [22:28] <pavlos> yes [22:29] <oerheks> xinput list [22:29] <Nemo9> heyy anybody know how to start libreoffice from terminal in fullscreen mode [22:30] <Nemo9> i cant find any flags from man page [22:30] <oerheks> Nemo9, why, do you want to make a starter? [22:31] <Nemo9> yeah so i just configured mpv and sxiv [22:31] <Nemo9> also zathura [22:31] <Nemo9> from rifle.conf [22:31] <Nemo9> in ranger [22:31] <Nemo9> so that they start fullscreen directly [22:32] <Tripknotix> found it [22:32] <Nemo9> really?? [22:33] <Tripknotix> D-Wave Scientific Co., Ltd eGalax Touchscreen [22:33] <rjwiii> oerheks: Thanks for the answer ... when I click on the date button, the notification is not there either ... anywhere else to look? [22:34] <Tripknotix> it shows up in xinput list, as well [22:34] <oerheks> rjwiii, journalctl -xe [22:35] <Tripknotix> Vitrual Core Pointer: eGalax Inc. USB TouchController id=12 [slave pointer (2)] [22:37] <Tripknotix> so why doesnt the touch screen work? any guesses? [22:37] <Tripknotix> or how might i "initialize it" or something [22:38] <oerheks> Tripknotix, now you know it works/ as in 'recognised, i find; https://askubuntu.com/questions/1088353/egalax-touchscreen-no-input-on-ubuntu-18-04 [22:38] <sarnold> that looks promising [22:38] <Tripknotix> oh that would have been a good google search [22:39] <oerheks> search: eGalax Inc. USB TouchController [22:39] <oerheks> this usb part seem to go over hdmi. [22:39] <oerheks> nice [22:41] <oerheks> and a bug, with confirmation that updated driver works https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libinput/+bug/1772083 [22:41] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1772083 in libinput (Ubuntu) "eGalax touchscreen is identified as tablet. Doesn't work" [Undecided,Confirmed] [22:45] <Tripknotix> ok thank you, im downloading the driver and ill see where ic an get instructions for using it, hopefully inside the zip [22:47] <sarnold> that first askubuntu answer looks pretty good. I wish it had more details on what the ./setup.sh step does, but the rest of it looks solid [22:47] <rjwiii> oerheks: Still can't find it ... the notification made a noise when I was turned around to my work computer. The notification caused my screens to wake up and I saw the notification. It disappeared, so I clicked on the date "button" and saw the notification there. Before I could read it, it disappeared from there, too ... Thought some script kiddie was trying to crack my computer ... [22:48] <oerheks> maybe a mount ready? [22:49] <rjwiii> oerheks: donno ... Ubuntu should log the notifications ... I seem to remember the letters "CID", but it disappeared so fast, I'm not sure ... [22:55] <Fronchetti> Hi, I am facing an issue with my computer which I don't know exactly how to find a solution: I have a laptop with a RTX 2080, and I am using an external monitor through the HDMI output. However, for some strange reason, my builtin monitor is frozen while my external monitor is reproducing the video of my builtin monitor (If I use the touchscreen of [22:55] <Fronchetti> my builtin monitor, for example, the external monitor reproduces the interactions). I already tried to change the drivers, update it, remove it, etc. I have no idea where I can find assistance for this problem. [22:55] <Fronchetti> Do you folks know where I could find a solution for this problem? [22:55] <Fronchetti> Thanks in advance [22:56] <Fronchetti> Google is not helping me :( === wylel is now known as wylel-irc [23:00] <Nemo9> anyone here to help with the libreoffice flag [23:00] <Nemo9> i cant figure out how to run it fullscreen mode [23:00] <Nemo9> like mpv --fs or zathura --mode fullscreen [23:02] <sarnold> Nemo9: I didn't see anything either; wht window manager do you run? sometimes window managers have a way to specify what should happen for clients with specific names etc [23:03] <Nemo9> im running linux mint [23:03] <Nemo9> cinnamon desktop [23:03] <Nemo9> so gnome wm [23:03] <Nemo9> or whatever [23:04] <Nemo9> is window manager = desktop manager the same? [23:04] <quadrathoch2> Nemo9 so not ubuntu. go to the linuxmint help [23:04] <Nemo9> how [23:04] <Nemo9> ?? [23:04] <Nemo9> whats the channel name [23:04] <quadrathoch2> !linuxmint [23:04] <ubottu> The Ubuntu channels can only provide support for Ubuntu and its official flavors, since other distributions and derivatives have repository and software changes. So please use their dedicated support venues, for example: Linux Mint (#linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org), Kali Linux (#kali-linux), and LXLE (#lxle) [23:04] <Nemo9> ok thnxx [23:04] <Nemo9> i dont think its the problem though [23:10] <Nemo9> helloo [23:10] <Nemo9> cant find anyone at MINT [23:10] <sarnold> open a support ticket? [23:11] <Nemo9> i dont know howw [23:11] <Nemo9> i just installed irssi === kreyren_ is now known as kreyren === mnemonic is now known as Guest92051 [23:50] <strixdio> hey everyone, having an issue with U2F in chromium vs google-chrome. Yubikey works in both, but my Trezor only works in google-chrome. I have the udev rules installed for the Trezor. Any ideas what the difference might be?

[00:03] does anyone have a clue for the mail service for anope here? [00:04] i know it might not be the right channel [00:04] but i might as well ask, just incase [00:06] oh [00:06] got it working :D [00:12] hmm how do i install a resolver? [00:14] What kind of resolver? [00:15] well for unrealircd when i try to use wget to install a module [00:15] it always fails [00:15] so basically to use wget [00:30] anyone? [00:35] ComputerTech: I think others were probably hoping you'd have more details :) [00:36] lol, i dont have any more heeh [00:36] sorry [00:36] i dont currently have access to the server [00:36] so i cant replicate the error [00:36] ahhhhh [00:37] ComputerTech: plenty of sendmail tutorials and howto's online if you use a search engine [00:37] on vbox on ubuntu 20.04 - windows guest only shows 1920x1440 max resolution. Any ideas on how to fix this? [00:38] ComputerTech: since mail does communicate over the network in most cases, experience in TCP/IP will be necessary also [00:38] geosmile: do you have the guest additions installed? [00:38] ComputerTech: so you probably want to read and study up for a couple weeks and experiment [00:39] sarnold, yes [00:39] sarnold: oerheks here: found it. THese are squeezing my system resources for nothing. My system is idle. I am not doing anything. vlc is in paused state also. https://imgur.com/HtlEbIk.png [00:40] Intelo: what does perf top report? [00:40] geosmile: hmm. dang. I hoped it was going to be simple :( [00:40] sarnold: waht is perf top? how to run it? [00:40] sarnold, i reinstalled extensions pack - lets see if that does anything [00:41] Intelo: install linux-tools-common ; then run sudo perf top ; and see what it reports as top CPU ues [00:43] sarnold: https://imgur.com/YpReZwc.png === benfrancis9 is now known as benfrancis [00:45] Intelo: dang :( that doesn't give as much hint as I hoped for :( [00:45] is the load still high? [00:47] sarnold: yes, [00:48] sarnold: very [00:49] sarnold: oerheks what do I do here? [00:55] any other guesses of why vbox windows guest is only a tiny part of the screen? extensions pack is up2date. So is guest additions. [00:56] Intelo: hmm, this is where I'd try next: http://www.brendangregg.com/perf.html#TimedProfiling [00:57] Intelo: use perf record to record some traces, use perf report to try to understand it, and if nothing obivious stands out, then try the flamegraph link for a way to generate something htat imght be more useful [00:58] sarnold: which command? [00:58] damn ubuntu is awesome [00:59] even gnome is awesome [01:00] Intelo: start with perf record -F 99 -a -g -- sleep 30 [01:00] Intelo: and once that's done, perf report --stdio [01:00] (you'll probably need sudo -s before, or sudo before each one, etc) [01:02] sarnold: after how much time should I intrupt? [01:03] the first will run for 30 seconds [01:03] ok I got it [01:03] sarnold: its a long tree [01:04] yeah, it'll be huge [01:04] I'm hoping the first few might be interesting though :) [01:05] sarnold: https://termbin.com/9phk [01:08] Intelo: wow, vlc's doing a ton of filesystem writes; I wonder why [01:08] sarnold: should I exit it now? [01:09] sarnold: what could be the issue? [01:09] sarnold: often things do this I guess? baloo_file, ktorrent, zoom, are some [01:09] Intelo: install bpfcc-tools and try filetop-bpfcc [01:09] sarnold: is my OS faulty or these apps? [01:10] sudo filetop-bpfcc ? [01:10] yeah [01:11] sarnold: https://imgur.com/mx7SzCf.png [01:11] Intelo: YES [01:11] Intelo: look in ~/.xsession-errors [01:11] it's probably huge [01:12] sarnold: it is [01:14] sarnold: full of vdpau_chroma filter error: video mixer rendering failure: An invalid handle value was provided. [01:14] and vdpau_chroma filter error: video mixer features failure: An invalid handle value was provided [01:14] Intelo: you can hunt around to try to figure out how to fix that [01:14] sarnold: does that justifies vlc, snap, ktorrent, baloo_file, dolphin [01:15] Intelo: this is just vlc [01:15] Intelo: no idea on ktorrent, ballo, dolphin [01:15] sarnold: why snap then? [01:15] Intelo: snap looks like a completely different error [01:15] snap is the 2nd culptrint [01:15] Intelo: and that'll be easiest to report a bug [01:16] sarnold: what could be the easiest fix? a) reinstall those apps b) reconfigure those apps c) reinstall kubuntu d) reinstall xubuntu [01:16] Intelo: I don't expect any of those would actually help [01:17] Intelo: you could run vlc from the command line rather than by clicking on an icon, that'll work around the xsession-errors problem [01:17] hm. I migrated from kubuntu due to these. I still have them [01:17] oh [01:17] ok [01:17] hah, nice, confirmation that my suspicions were correct :) [01:17] sarnold: what confirmation? [01:17] Intelo: but you might still want to figure out why vlc is writing that error message at eight megabytes pre second :) [01:18] sarnold: what are you talking about :)? [01:19] sarnold: yes but what kind of suspicouons? [01:19] Intelo: https://i.imgur.com/mx7SzCf.png note the "W_Kb" column -- vlc is writing seven megabytes per second to that file [01:19] sarnold: ya. so? [01:19] Intelo: suspicion that none of your (a) (b) (c) (d) would help you in any way [01:19] sarnold: oh [01:19] ok [01:19] sarnold: I am testing from cmd now [01:19] brb in 10 [01:19] or 30 [01:20] Intelo: one moment.. [01:20] Intelo: I'm leaving at about then [01:20] sarnold:thanks [01:20] Intelo: so: ubuntu-bug snapd [01:20] sarnold: oh ok [01:20] Intelo: that'll file a bug on snapd -- include this image [01:20] Intelo: vlc, I've got no idea, I don't know anything about vdpau [01:20] ok [01:20] Intelo: maybe you can figure out how to use a different decoder or something [01:21] or at least stop throwing errors? :) [01:21] actually [01:21] Intelo: you could mak ea new .desktop file for vlc with 2>/dev/null on it or something.. [01:21] anyway, hope that helps :) === pikapika is now known as huskyfox [01:39] sarnold: I opened vlc via commandline. Paused video. Now I don't see any high usage === zbenjamin is now known as Guest44569 === zbenjamin_ is now known as zbenjamin [01:57] what is the best way to sign my kernel modules for dkms and secure boot on kubuntu 19.10? [01:58] !19.10 | fuze [01:58] fuze: Ubuntu 19.10 (Eoan Ermine) was the 31st release of Ubuntu, support ended July 2020. See !eol and https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-security-announce/2020-July/005494.html [01:59] wow awesome thanks [02:00] fuze: :D Upfrade asap - while it is still easy. [02:00] yea downloading now === gabkdlly_ is now known as gabkdlly [02:26] How do I know my grub is still ok (without rebooting)? [02:27] I'm talking about this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1889509 [02:27] Launchpad bug 1889509 in grub2 (Ubuntu) "grub boot error : "symbol 'grub_calloc' not found" [High,Confirmed] [02:29] k_sze: Grub updates are out: 18.04 >> Installed: 2.02-2ubuntu8.16 . Have you updated the system ? [02:29] I have 2.02-2ubuntu8.16 [02:29] So that's not affected? [02:30] k_sze: I have rebooted and see no issues - there were a lot of fixes in that update. [03:19] BTW, something is weird about using Yubikey with Ubuntu. [03:22] I have a Yubikey 5 Nano. Sometimes I leave it plugged to my laptop. If no application is actively requesting to use the Yubikey and I touch the Yubikey, Yubikey turns on and acts like a keyboard and sends a string of input to whatever application happens to have focus. Isn't that a bit dangerous? [03:29] Looks like it's the OTP thing of Yubikey and it's configurable. [03:53] Hi, is there an official checksum somewhere of the 20.04 LTS x64 desktop image on the website? [03:53] If there is, I can't find it. [03:54] Aha, never mind, I got it. [03:56] The reason I ask is, the installer complained about a corrupted file in the installer when it did its initial disk check. So how can I fix this problem? [03:58] soft_concrete, depends. You have it on a USB drive or a CD/DVD? [03:58] k_sze: USB flash drive [03:59] The simplest thing is to verify the checksum of the ISO first. And then rewrite it to your flash drive. [03:59] Your flash drive may also have started to wear or is simply defective. [04:00] Ok, I'll try re-writing it. I used this command to write it the first time - would you change anything? dd if=ubuntu_image of=/dev/sdb bs=4M status=progress && sync [04:05] what is a good virtualization software for ubuntu that can do gpu acceleration on windows host? [04:10] soft_concrete, I would use dd's `conv=fsync` and `oflags=nonblock` instead of the `&& sync` at the end [04:12] Ok, I'll use that [04:14] soft_concrete, or you can use the etcher.io tool. It's the official recommended way. [04:15] well, maybe not official. But it's quasi-official. It's on one of the Ubuntu wiki pages, I think. [04:21] I tried using the commandline again, with the flags you suggested, and got (initramfs) Unable to find a medium containing a live file system. 0_o [04:22] Time to try Etcher, haha. [04:25] If you are already flashing from an existing installation of Ubuntu, you can also use Ubuntu's built-in Startup Disk Creator tool. [04:26] I'm on Arch. I've been an Arch user for years, but I don't feel like messing with it on my new laptop right now. [04:32] I got the same initramfs error with Balena. I think my flash drive might be toast. Which is too bad... it's fairly new [04:32] Anyway thanks for your help... I'll try again tomorrow. [04:50] I have two users, A and B. There is a common directory with user:group ownership of A:A and I've added user B to the grup A as well. The files has 2770 ownership so since B is a member of A group it can create, modify, etc... [04:51] However, when the user B create some file let say file.txt now it has this ownership: B:A. By this, while I have the group access on A side, it can not modify the file.txt! which I don't understand [04:53] Since B touch file.txt it has the its ownership but since I've set the setGID (2770), it inherit the group memebership of A. But why A can not modify a file it has group access to write? [04:54] this is pretty bizarre. i'm just throwing basic troubleshoot (i guess), what does -ls -l show for the permissions of file.txt? [04:55] HazardousBit_:it's rwxr-x-- which shows the problem [04:55] the created file.txt doesn't give group permission to write [04:56] mhm [04:56] that should be it [04:56] Now, the question is how can I set permission in a way that all file inherit 770 not 755 [04:56] HazardousBit_:Yes, that was the problem [04:56] Thanks [04:56] hm, for that i actually had a similar issue where added config files I created in another directory had to have its permissions changed [04:57] What is the best practice to have a common directory for all users, and all users write,read modify any file...completely common [04:58] My problem is the new file should be automatically 770 not 755 [05:01] have you checked this? https://www.linux.org/threads/common-directory-for-multiple-users.7792/ === tds1 is now known as tds [05:36] Thanks dude, having separate Fat32 partition is neat but too loose! === StathisA_ is now known as StathisA [06:26] Posix ACL was the ultimate solution and it was neat. === William is now known as Conna === LabMonkey is now known as Mechanismus [07:14] hello, when i use vim, why there is ^M? [07:19] ^M represents carriage return [07:19] how can i make it disappear? [07:19] geijer: ? [07:20] is it at the end of lines? like it's a file with windows line endings? [07:20] yeah [07:20] correct [07:21] if so, :set fileformat=unix should convert it to unix line endings [07:23] I installed Buka from snaps, it wont open, i uninstalled it from snaps then i installed it via terminal, still wont open any ideas whats wrong? Buka is an e-reader, i'm using Ubuntu 20.04 [07:24] geirha: there is a ^M when i use set fileformat=unix === Napsterbater_ is now known as Napsterbater [08:32] anyone here? [08:32] !ask | FocalFossaUser [08:32] FocalFossaUser: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience [08:37] ubottu: Thanks! [08:37] You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-) [08:39] I am trying to enable the fingerprint sensor in 20.04. [08:40] I don't see anything when I go to Settings>users>authentication. [08:41] FocalFossaUser: which laptop model? [08:42] HP Compaq 6901p. [08:44] FocalFossaUser: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Fprint [08:44] maybe this helps? [08:44] FocalFossaUser: see here actually, https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/session-fingerprint.html.en [08:46] No, there's nothing to do with fingerprint. [08:48] The first link is a little bit beyond my understanding level. [08:50] It has a built-in scanner. === Apachez- is now known as Apachez [09:12] Hi, How to enable a service after reboot so it starts on ubuntu 12 ? with init.d I guess thanks [09:14] Ubuntu 12.04 ended support in 2017 [09:15] this answer is for another question :) [09:15] ok looks like it's update-rc.d -f service-name enable === Napsterbater is now known as Guest24862 === Napsterbater_ is now known as Napsterbater [10:39] 'Morning all [10:46] hi all, I have an ubuntu 18.04 server where I installed openjdk 11.0.8 and where a tomcat9 runs. I have to run an application inside the tomcat9 container which require java8. Here: http://tomcat.apache.org/whichversion.html I see the minimum tomcat9 requirement is java 8 or later versions. So I'm planning to installa openjdk8 by apt install and [10:46] then run update-alternatives to set the verion 8. Is that a right procedure or create confusion in the server? [10:47] eugenio_ you mean installing jdk8 on host or in the container? [10:48] quadrathoch2 in the host [10:48] eugenio_: do you have multiple jdk's installed? [10:48] LordChaos not yet, only openjdk11 so far [10:52] eugenio_: you should be fine, I think you should also be able to point tomcat to the correct jdk by editing JAVA_HOME in catalina.sh [10:52] If I recall correctly, has been a while since I installed / configured Tomcat [10:55] exit [10:55] exit [11:03] hello [11:34] I am trying to mount a smb share "sudo mount -t cifs -o user=aavar //192.168.1.157/Volumes/Media/archives /var/cache/apt/archives" Is this command correct? [11:37] Aavar: why would you mount it in /var/... ? [11:37] Hello. My Bose QC 35 ii doesn't work when I connect it on Ubuntu. The sound quality is terrible and the microphone doesn't work on A2DP. Is there any fix for this issue? [11:38] could someone help me install inkscape? i need that for my company, and just discovered it's not installed on my system anymore… can't install again – dependency problems [11:39] Aavar: that probably is not going to work. Can you confirm that? [11:42] alekksander if you would tell us which ones, maybe we could even help [11:46] quadrathoch2: libgsl23 : Depends: libgslcblas0 (= 2.5+dfsg-N~5~ubuntu18.04.1) but it is not going to be installed [11:46] seems there is some dependency chain i started by shitty origin. trying to solve it [11:48] alekksander as 2.5 is not in bionic, did you accidently add a repository which is not for bionic? [11:49] yes, that could be that. another repo i used for years has previously tricked me too. that's enough, i removed it [11:50] if you paste.ubuntu.com I could look over it alekksander if you still have issues [11:50] i removed the repo and everything is pleasing me again. i can work in inkscape now. thanks for the interest quadrathoch2. i guess the lesson here is to always check the origin of packages in conflict [11:51] alekksander yup :) glad it's working now [11:57] Who should I poke if https://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/releases/focal/ has a typo in its -- currently ¨Ubuntu 20.04 (Focla Fossa) Release Build¨ but should be Focal Fossa instead. [11:58] <sigv> That bugs me a bit too much than it should, sure, but would be nice to have that resolved anyhow. [12:03] <tomreyn> sigv: try asking in #canonical-sysadmin [12:03] <sigv> thanks! will do. [12:03] <tomreyn> i' not sure it'S the right place, but may be. [12:14] <DJones> si it may be #ubuntu-website that would have access to that [12:14] <DJones> sigv: See above [12:15] <sigv> I was considering that, but there are only 7 other users there and no channel ops.. but won´t hurt anyone for me to x-post there as well I suppose. [12:15] <sigv> thanks for the thought even if that doesn´t pan out! [12:48] <BT40> Hi. i have added a new line in /etc/hosts file. This line: 127.0.0.1:5000 orcle When i ping, it gives error: Temporary failure in name resolution [12:48] <BT40> Please guide. [12:48] <BT40> I am using this command to ping: ...... ping -c 4 orcle [12:49] <BT40> only change i made is that i have added port 5000 in localhost (127.0.0.1) IP suffix. [12:55] <tatertotz> BT40: syntax wrong [12:56] <tatertotz> BT40: port 5000? get rid of that....TCP/UDP port numbers shouldn't be included [12:57] <BT40> ok thanks [12:58] <tatertotz> BT40: in terminal> man hosts [12:58] <BT40> tatertotz, thank you [12:59] <BT40> i also want to know, how to ssh in localhost? [12:59] <BT40> when i type this command in terminal, it automaticaly exits without error [12:59] <BT40> ssh localhost [12:59] <BT40> please guide, is this normal thing? [13:00] <BT40> i mean, since it is normal machine and we are already in local mode, is this the reason that terminal auto exits? [13:00] <leftyfb> BT40: put your hosts file back. That does you no good [13:00] <BT40> leftyfb, done. [13:00] <leftyfb> BT40: the correct entry should be "127.0.0.1 localhost" [13:01] <leftyfb> BT40: feel free to add "127.0.1.1 orcle" [13:01] <BT40> leftyfb, already that was at first. I was adding another one with different name :) Now got proper guidance from u guys, [13:01] <leftyfb> notice the ip difference [13:02] <BT40> actually i want to setup database server, it needs host parameter in command. i was messing up with that [13:02] <BT40> now got some clarifications [13:03] <leftyfb> BT40: wat database and what "parameter" does it need in the hosts file exactly and what documentation is telling you this? [13:03] <BT40> oracle nosql database. [13:03] <tatertotz> BT40: ideally you'd have working forward/reverse DNS aiding your other machines with names like "orcle" [13:03] <leftyfb> tatertotz: not with a static ip [13:04] <leftyfb> BT40: got documentation that you can link to here that tells you to add an /etc/hosts enry? [13:04] <leftyfb> entry* [13:04] <BT40> documentation has this line: Be aware that the host names specified here must be resolvable using DNS or the local /etc/hosts file. [13:04] <BT40> i misinterpreted that [13:05] <leftyfb> BT40: adding the entry I gave you will be sufficient [13:05] <tatertotz> leftyfb: not sure what a static or dynamic ip has to do with successful name resolution but okay [13:05] <BT40> sure [13:05] <BT40> please guide on ssh also [13:06] <leftyfb> tatertotz: if the server has a static ip, where how is an A record being created on a local DNS server? [13:06] <BT40> is ssh in local machine possible? [13:06] <leftyfb> BT40: yes [13:06] <leftyfb> BT40: did you install an ssh server? [13:06] <BT40> no [13:06] <BT40> i think it is pre installed in ubuntu [13:06] <leftyfb> BT40: negative [13:08] <BT40> it is installed. I can see using ssh -V [13:08] <BT40> maybe i had installed manually in past, not remembering exactly. [13:08] <leftyfb> BT40: running "ssh -V" does not indicate whether an ssh server is installed locally [13:09] <BT40> or automatically installed as dependency [13:09] <leftyfb> BT40: sudo apt install openssh-server [13:09] <BT40> ok [13:09] <BT40> how can i check, please guide [13:09] <leftyfb> BT40: why are you installing an Oracle database if you don't know the basics of a linux distribution? [13:10] <BT40> i am new to coding. [13:10] <leftyfb> BT40: nothing in our discussion thus far has been related to "coding" [13:10] <BT40> linux basics: i am using it for 10 years as general user [13:10] <BT40> admin things i need to learn [13:10] <leftyfb> BT40: install openssh-server as indicated above [13:11] <leftyfb> BT40: AFAIK, a local ssh server should not be required to run an Oracle database [13:12] <sigv> you could just check with systemd whether it has sshd active, as `systemctl status --lines=0 sshd.service` [13:13] <BT40> leftyfb, actually i am unable to get access despite successfully installing. They have described a method to ping that and test whether it is working. So i was fidling with that [13:13] <leftyfb> or sudo lsof -i :22 [13:13] <BT40> ok sigv [13:13] <leftyfb> BT40: what version of ubuntu is this? [13:13] <sigv> leftyfb, could be on a different port, so ymmv [13:13] <sigv> oh yes, i am assuming somewhat recent with systemd. [13:14] <BT40> output is : ssh.service - OpenBSD Secure Shell server [13:14] <BT40> and much more [13:14] <leftyfb> BT40: please pastebin the output [13:14] <BT40> status is active [13:14] <leftyfb> BT40: when asking for information output, please do not paraphrase. Please pastebin the output [13:15] <BT40> https://pastebin.com/NvAsEKne [13:15] <leftyfb> BT40: what version of ubuntu is this? [13:15] <BT40> 20.04 [13:15] <BT40> desktop edition, gnome [13:15] <sigv> right, `sshd.service` is linked to `ssh.service` now. but yeah - it looks like you have the SSH server running there. [13:16] <leftyfb> BT40: please pastebin the output of: ssh -v localhost [13:17] <BT40> https://pastebin.com/M7yzeWLp [13:17] <leftyfb> ok, your local ssh is working [13:18] <sigv> what exactly is your ssh problem? [13:19] <sigv> or, rather, why are you asking about ´ssh in local machine´ [13:20] <BT40> sigv, ssh node01 [13:20] <BT40> java -jar KVHOME/lib/kvstore.jar ping -host node01 -port 5000 [13:20] <BT40> -security KVROOT/security/client.security [13:20] <BT40> This is the guide by oracle [13:21] <BT40> https://docs.oracle.com/database/nosql-12.1.4.3/AdminGuide/install-config.html [13:21] <BT40> Guide says to do this for testing. [13:21] <BT40> start the database server, switch to new tab, login to node, then ping it [13:22] <sigv> if you are on the local machine already, you do not need to worry about connecting to it again. you can just use the local shell already available. [13:22] <BT40> thank u for making me understand [13:23] <sigv> when you think `ssh localhost` is exiting without error, you might instead be in the opened ssh connection [13:24] <BT40> ok [13:24] <sigv> check the `who` command output for what logins are currently active [13:25] <BT40> yes it is showing 3 users. Two are IP based 127.0.0.1 [13:25] <Paddy1> Hi all. Is anyone aware of a channel thats relevant to .net development under linux? Been asking some questions in ##csharp but all im getting is nonsense, ridicule, guesswork and trolling. I'm looking for somewhere thats a bit more mature and helpful. [13:26] <leftyfb> !alis | Paddy1 [13:26] <ubottu> Paddy1: Alis is an IRC service to help you find channels. For help on using it, see "/msg Alis help list" or ask in #freenode. Example usage: "/msg Alis list http" [13:28] <Paddy1> Thanks didn't know this was a thing [13:28] <sigv> BT40, and if you run `tty` you will see which one you are on right now. assuming you have one `/dev/tty*` and two `/dev/pts` then you will probably see `/dev/pts/1` as your current terminal [13:29] <sigv> so you are two levels deep into ssh into your local machine. if you `exit` twice you will be back into your real `tty` [13:29] <sigv> or actually you probably have three PTSes. regardless, point of two levels deep in ssh still stands. [13:31] <BT40> okay :) [13:32] <BT40> Thanks sigv leftyfb tatertotz for guidance [13:37] <Aavar> LordChaos, tatertotz: I am having termorary storage issues. Why would it not work? What is wrong with the command? (Sorry for the late reply) [13:44] <analogical> how do I get root status in the terminal? [13:45] <legreffier> analogical: you usually prefix your commands with 'sudo'. [13:46] <analogical> legreffier, I want to become permanent root in the terminal [13:46] <sigv> you should not need that. and if you are in a position where you need that, you will generally know what to do. [13:46] <sigv> why do you want a root shell. [13:47] <legreffier> analogical: it's usually not needed, you can run "sudo -i" if you need a root shell. [13:48] <analogical> sudo -i was the solution [13:49] <nbusrone> Where can I find specific file source code implement on ubuntu file system ? [13:49] <ikonia> ? === benfrancis4 is now known as benfrancis [13:51] <nbusrone> ikonia : gnome-settings-daemon/gsd-power , because my brightness keep resetting when wake up need to find a way to fix it. [14:00] <qwertuttyty> oh guys eq!!!!!! I believe that PulseEffects should be included in the installation iso image of the file. [14:01] <qwertuttyty> ubuntu-mate 20.04 kernel 5.8... [14:02] <qwertuttyty> vmwareplayer host guest windows [14:02] <qwertuttyty> host win ubuntu guest [14:07] <ikonia> nbusrone: that gnome-settings stuff looks like it's about 3 repos worth of code with about 8 depending repos (roughly) [14:11] <nbusrone> ikonia : I am newbie , didn't about shell code , but at lease I wanted to look at the source code by asking someone here , because I had been facing weeks of brightness reset issue when I set my monitor return from power saving 'blankscreen' [14:11] <nbusrone> ikonia : not sure it's related about the code , which one trigger brightness reset ? https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-settings-daemon/blob/42fc617dbe0c40bc25d62626b6c874bfb1b95f6f/plugins/power/gsd-power-manager.c [14:14] <sigv> it is possible it´s a driver problem instead of a gnome problem, if it relates to power states. [14:14] <sigv> this does not happen that often in newer kernels but was a real pain ages ago. [14:15] <nbusrone> sigv : i am using nvidia driver , the case not only happen on blank screen , it reset during login , restart pc , logout , open a browser , right click just to delete a trash file [14:16] <sigv> could you skip using the proprietary driver to troubleshoot that being a possible culprit? [14:16] * sigv grumbles something about nvidia drivers [14:16] <nbusrone> sigv : i found some old post by disable gsdcolor start up does fix most of it but on blank screen still persist. [14:17] <sigv> nbusrone, is not using nvidia driver an option for you to troubleshoot? [14:17] <nbusrone> sigv : it happen at 14.04 until 20.04 still continue and when I check at nvidia driver forum , they said it's distro issue. [14:18] <nbusrone> sigv : i run on nouveau also having the same result of brightness reset. [14:19] <somerandomteen> Hi folks, I've got a weird issue that I'm sort of at my wit's end to solve - I wonder if anyone can help. On my Ubuntu 16.04.6 LTS server, systemctl is hanging indefinitely when performing any operations - start, stop, restart, whatever. It's fine showing status, but it won't do anything else. Tools that don't directly use it, like apache2ctl, are [14:19] <somerandomteen> unaffected; tools that do, though, like /etc/init.d/mysql, do. [14:19] <nbusrone> sigv : nope , i haven't tried yet , but as being test , if it is really nvidia driver issue , it should have a lot of user here having reporting as a bug. [14:20] <ikonia> nbusrone: I'm not sure what you're asking [14:20] <sigv> nbusrone, it could be some combination of the individual device and driver and other factors. i would suggest that test, to check for driver issues. [14:20] <legreffier> somerandomteen: mysql start/stop/restart can often be quite long [14:21] <sigv> ikonia, the code question is not the core problem. resolving brightness issues upon wake is the real question. [14:22] <ikonia> that seems more logical [14:22] <somerandomteen> legreffier, I know, but it's not just mysql that's affected; every service I've tried hangs indefinitely. apache2, a nodeJS server service, MySQL, certbot [14:22] <somerandomteen> even if I manually kill MySQL's processes entirely, systemctl still hangs indefinitely when running service stop on it [14:24] <legreffier> somerandomteen: what command do you precisely type ? [14:25] <Dr_Coke> Does anyone know if Cananicol will customize gnome appearance to look like windows [14:25] <vladoski> hey guys, what's the best way to have more than one python3 version on my ubuntu 20 lts? [14:25] <somerandomteen> I've tried both of `service [whateverservice] start` and `systemctl start [service]`, and various other flavours (different services, changing start to stop, etc) - all hang [14:25] <ikonia> Dr_Coke: seems unlikely [14:26] <Dr_Coke> ikonia, I mean give us a dash to taskbar and start menu etc but you're probably right seems unlikely [14:26] <qwertuttyty> why eq? my sound usb 4$ [14:26] <Dr_Coke> ikonia, the gnome developers might take offence [14:26] <somerandomteen> Inserting complete gubbins doesn't hang, interestingly (`systemctl start dfiaiaejfoajd` returns immediately with an error, like you'd expect) [14:26] <Dr_Coke> ikonia, seems whoever is in charge of gnome aren't flexible [14:26] <ikonia> Dr_Coke: that's not for this channel [14:26] <nbusrone> sigv ikonia : https://askubuntu.com/questions/1028940/why-does-xrandr-output-brightness-setting-not-persist-is-this-a-bug , https://github.com/LordAmit/Brightness/issues/102 it related to this issue.it's fix but not on blank screen [14:27] <qwertuttyty> not bad trought puylse 32 192khz but nee qe [14:27] <Dr_Coke> ikonia, which channel should I take it to [14:27] <ikonia> Dr_Coke: none [14:27] <qwertuttyty> pulse [14:27] <Dr_Coke> ikonia, lol [14:27] <qwertuttyty> need [14:27] <qwertuttyty> eq [14:27] <Dr_Coke> ikonia, are you a gnome developer [14:27] <ikonia> no [14:28] <oerheks> if there is a theme that looks like windows, we have a legal issue. [14:28] <qwertuttyty> not bad 16 48 trought pulse 32 192khz but need eq [14:29] <nbusrone> ikonia : are there a gnome dev channel here ? maybe it's much suitable to ask over there [14:29] <ikonia> nbusrone: I suspect not [14:29] <ikonia> nbusrone: filing and providing information to the bug reports is the best way [14:29] <qwertuttyty> cmedia 108 usb [14:29] <Dr_Coke> ikonia, Linux Mint does a really good job of ubuntu with Cinnamon perhaps Ubuntu should look at the way Cinnamon looks and apply it to gnome [14:29] <ikonia> but working the problem to understand it and provide good information is key [14:29] <ikonia> Dr_Coke: yeah, I'm sure, as I said not for this channel though [14:30] <coconut> Dr_Coke, ubuntu tried making their own DE with unity, but they stopped that eventually(and it did not look like windows) [14:30] <Dr_Coke> coconut, Unity looked very much like gnome standard [14:31] <coconut> yeah [14:31] <oerheks> cinnamon is in our repos too, Dr_Coke [14:31] <Dr_Coke> oerheks, yeah but gnome seems to have more effects [14:32] <Dr_Coke> oerheks I had ubuntu gnome installed and customized but I screwed something so then I decided to install mint 20 Cinnamon [14:33] <oerheks> mint is a waste of time, so you have no ubuntu support issue? [14:33] <Dr_Coke> oerheks, and gnome doesn't want to give me scaling on 4k [14:33] <Dr_Coke> with ubuntu [14:33] <oerheks> it does.. [14:34] <Dr_Coke> Mint gives me 4k scaling with my nvidia card however ubuntu with gnome would not [14:34] <oerheks> i am not interested in mint.don't waste mine, thanks. [14:35] <Dr_Coke> oerheks, do you develop for ubuntu? [14:37] <coconut> Dr_Coke, got mine 4k laptop to scale with ubuntu mate, dunno why it did not work for you on ubuntu gnome(i guess it should have) [14:37] <Dr_Coke> coconut, I think it's gnome [14:37] <Dr_Coke> coconut, mate is helped to be made by the linux mint team as well I believe [14:38] <coconut> Dr_Coke, ok but are not DE's always a mix of distro's ? [14:39] <coconut> *the developers i mean [14:40] <Dr_Coke> coconut, no idea [14:40] <Dr_Coke> I suppose so [14:40] <Dr_Coke> Something clearly went wrong in the gnome camp though [14:41] <Dr_Coke> Layout is utter rubbish [14:41] <ikonia> can we drop this please [14:41] <ikonia> it's not for this channel [14:41] <Dr_Coke> ok [14:41] <Dr_Coke> sorry [14:41] <ikonia> no problem [14:43] <geosmile> are there any good ubuntu based VMs that can pass through GPUs to guest OS=Windows? [14:44] <ikonia> the VM is not the problem [14:44] <ikonia> it's the hypervisor technology [14:44] <ikonia> thankfully most hypervisors support this now [14:44] <geosmile> ikonia, I'm using virtualbox - no gpu support [14:45] <geosmile> I want to be able to install nvidia drivers inside the VM [14:45] <ikonia> pretty sure that had hpu passthrough [14:45] <ikonia> https://docs.oracle.com/en/virtualization/virtualbox/6.0/admin/pcipassthrough.html#:~:text=The%20PCI%20passthrough%20module%20is,drivers%20for%20this%20particular%20device. [14:45] <geosmile> ikonia, in that case it does not share the gpu - it needs 2 gpus [14:46] <geosmile> I'd have to buy a new GPU for that one. [14:47] <ikonia> are you sure you're reading that right ? [14:47] <ikonia> (you could always use the gpu from the cpu to power the host and the nvidia gpu passthrough to the guest) [14:48] <geosmile> ikonia, I think it only allows the guest to use the gpu - not the host [14:48] <qwertuttyty> resample-method = speex-float-9 [14:48] <oerheks> maybe vmware Sphere is a better solution, vmware workstation 15 does not. [14:48] <ikonia> geosmile: I don't think that's true [14:48] <ikonia> but even if that was the case, use the cpu gpu for the host [14:49] <geosmile> ikonia, i'd like to use the gpu on both guest and host. It is a beefy gpu [14:49] <quadrathoch2> geosmile which gpu do you have? nvidia is notorious for disabling it on consumer hardware [14:49] <ikonia> I'm pretty sure you can - I'm %70 sure I've done this on vbox [14:50] <geosmile> quadrathoch2, rtx 2080 [14:50] <Zewwy> I might be missing something here, I'm running Ubuntu 20.04 desktop live, and I'm connected to the internet, but when I type apt-get install vlan as root, it says it can't find a package vlan [14:50] <quadrathoch2> moot, can't do it geosmile [14:50] <Zewwy> how do I do vlan tagging on Ubuntu 20.04 desktop? [14:51] <quadrathoch2> Zewwy did you apt update? [14:51] <Zewwy> i sure did [14:51] <quadrathoch2> oh it's in universe you would need to enable universe repo Zewwy [14:51] <Zewwy> ERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR [14:51] <oerheks> live iso, run apt update.. and are you sure vlan is available? [14:51] <oerheks> !info vlan [14:51] <ubottu> vlan (source: vlan): ifupdown integration for vlan configuration. In component universe, is extra. Version 2.0.4ubuntu1.20.04.1 (focal), package size 11 kB, installed size 49 kB [14:51] <Zewwy> that same thing screwed me lasttime [14:52] <Zewwy> so annoying [14:52] <tatertotz> Zewwy: are you %100 certain "vlan" is a valid package name? [14:52] <oerheks> sudo add-apt-repository universe .. but why from live iso? [14:52] <Zewwy> cause I only use linux randomly live [14:52] <Zewwy> just my preffered [14:52] <Zewwy> thanks quadrathoch2 ' [14:52] <tatertotz> Zewwy: double check you are using valid names [14:53] <Zewwy> its valid just the universe repo not enabled by default [14:53] <Zewwy> super annoying [14:53] <oerheks> no, it is by design [14:53] <Zewwy> to me an annoying design, i like functionalty thats easy, and it often skipped in blogs [14:55] <jhassell_> What is the name of the utility that can insist you use the alias form of your commands? === kostkon_ is now known as kostkon [15:11] <gimzmoe> I need a clue on how to make a rogue kernel process behave. kworker/0:1+usb_hub_wq & kworker/0:1+pm share the same PID, I've got 0 interrupt hits in /sys/firmware/acpi/interrupts, which seems the be the most likely cause for others, but not in my case [15:16] <ComputerTech> hello [15:16] <ComputerTech> i am instaling sendmail [15:16] <ComputerTech> and get this error [15:16] <ComputerTech> WARNING: local host name (localhost) is not qualified; see cf/README: WHO AM I? [15:16] <ComputerTech> actually a warning [15:16] <ComputerTech> what can i do to fix this? [15:17] <quadrathoch2> ComputerTech well what is your hostname? [15:18] <Zewwy> whats returned when you type hostname? [15:18] <ComputerTech> computertech [15:18] <ComputerTech> computertech [15:18] <Zewwy> thats not fully quakified [15:18] <Zewwy> qualified? [15:18] <ComputerTech> hmm? [15:19] <ComputerTech> i just types hostname [15:19] <ComputerTech> and got computertech back [15:19] <quadrathoch2> ComputerTech normally a fully qualified hostname is required. like computertech.com [15:19] <Zewwy> it's been a long time since I played with sendmail, not sure if it builds a FQDN from the hostname and domain name [15:20] <ComputerTech> ok [15:20] <ComputerTech> perhaps it's [15:20] <ComputerTech> mail.technet.xi.ht [15:20] <ComputerTech> thats what my friend told me [15:20] <ComputerTech> where do i edit it? [15:20] <Zewwy> quadrathoch2: thats what I figured but wasn't sure if it could be FQ by addition of a known domain name the system is joined to, if at all [15:20] <ComputerTech> in the specified path? [15:20] <quadrathoch2> Zewwy afaik it should work [15:21] <ComputerTech> so... i edit this file? [15:21] <ComputerTech> readme [15:21] <ComputerTech> ? [15:21] <ComputerTech> i have never used this stuff before really [15:21] <ComputerTech> more of a windows guy [15:21] <Zewwy> or just use the hostname cmd? [15:22] <Zewwy> hostname newname.com [15:22] <ComputerTech> root@computertech:/etc# hostname [15:22] <ComputerTech> computertech [15:22] <oerheks> hostname should be set in 2 places [15:22] <ComputerTech> i did do that [15:22] <oerheks> !hostname [15:22] <ubottu> Use hostname <somehostname> to set the hostname, or to do it permanently: edit /etc/hosts to include BOTH the old and new hostname and then change /etc/hostname to the new one. WARNING! Make sure that your current hostname and /etc/hosts match, otherwise sudo may not work properly. [15:22] <Zewwy> intersting... [15:23] <Zewwy> hostname should be appended with a -p option to do those edit for the user [15:23] <oerheks> with systemd it is hostnamectl, IIRC [15:24] <oerheks> hostnamectl status [15:24] <ComputerTech> so i type hostname mail.technet.xi.ht [15:24] <ComputerTech> ? [15:24] <oerheks> but this does not survive reboot. [15:24] <Zewwy> ^^ [15:26] <DDinTV> I have an old Acer Aspire (circa 2012) with a 1Ghz processor. Any suggestions on the best governor to use? [15:28] <oerheks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkConfigurationCommandLine/Automatic#Setting.2Fchanging_the_hostname [15:28] <oerheks> have fun with the reading, ComputerTech [15:28] <tomreyn> DDinTV: default is usually fine. low latency kernel may be desirable. also a new computer. [15:29] <ComputerTech> ok [15:29] <ComputerTech> Thanks oerheks :) [15:29] <tomreyn> DDinTV: which cpu architecture does it have, how much ram, which ubuntu release are you running or planning to run there? [15:30] <ComputerTech> oerheks, [15:30] <ComputerTech> will that guide work for ubuntu 20 ? [15:30] <coconut> DDinTV, are you sure with 1GHz? I remember at 2003 we had faster cpu's already... [15:30] <DDinTV> Running Linux Lite v20, AMD dual-core, 4GB RAM. [15:31] <DDinTV> 64-bit. [15:31] <coconut> although i might be wrong seeing [15:33] <tomreyn> DDinTV: and which ubuntu release do you plan to run? [15:33] <ComputerTech> ? [15:38] <DDinTV> AMD C-60 APU. Dual-core 800Mhz min, 1Ghz max. Running Linux Lite 5.0. Base is Ubuntu 20.04 LTS. [15:38] <quadrathoch2> yes ComputerTech [15:39] <ComputerTech> ok thanks [15:39] <ComputerTech> :D [15:39] <DDinTV> Laptop. [15:40] <tomreyn> DDinTV: this channel only supports actual ubuntu installations. [15:40] <DDinTV> Oops. Sorry. [15:41] <tomreyn> no worries. you could try ##linux or whatever 'linux lite' has for support [15:42] <DDinTV> Thanks! Will check it out. Doesn't look like there's a channel specific to Linux Lite. [15:43] <DDinTV> So many distros. So little time :) [15:56] <Harlin> Is there any way to clear the Google Chrome search box -- not necessarily my search history [15:56] <Harlin> For instance if I'm looking up something on a Zoom call I don't want everyone knowing about my weird ass search habits. [15:57] <Harlin> especially at work. [15:57] <tomreyn> for third party software, it's best to get support with the third parties' preferred support channels. [15:58] <Harlin> yeah I dont' see one so I figured you guys use Chrome like I do on #Ubuntu [15:58] <Harlin> any ideas? [15:58] <Harlin> Googling seems to point that this can't be done. [16:00] <tomreyn> there is https://support.google.com/chrome/community [16:04] <yuta> Hi . snapd writes much, Is it usual? [16:05] <tomreyn> depends. what do you mean by "writes much"? does it send you e-mails? [16:41] <Floflobel_> Hello, I'm trying to install Ubuntu server 20.04 on a PowerEdge R730 server via idrac. But each time I start the installation it launches an integrity check that I can't pass and that seems really long. I tried to re-download the image and check the hash but the file is not corrupted. Paste: https://paste.centos.org/view/d0ef1ac1 [16:54] <tomreyn> Floflobel_: you verified the iso image downloaded properly. have you also verified that it was written to the installer media properly? [16:57] <agile_prg> what is the easiest way to setup a vncserver on ubuntu? [16:58] <aleph-> So recently heard about the rub2 vuln and the fix that seems to be bricking hosts upon reboot. Just curious if: 1) The bug in the fix causing failure to boot is in the version being released for Ubuntu 18. 2) If it is, is there a way I can ensure unattended-upgrades doesn't pull it down? [16:59] <aleph-> Ah seems it's affecting Ubuntu 18. Lovely [16:59] <tomreyn> agile_prg: on a desktop? you go to settings, sharing, click on "on" top-right, click on screen sharing, ensure it'S set up as you need it. optionally enable "remote login", too, if you'd like to tunnel vnc through ssh. [16:59] <tomreyn> aleph-: bug 1889509 [16:59] <ubottu> bug 1889509 in grub2 (Ubuntu) "grub boot error : "symbol 'grub_calloc' not found" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1889509 [16:59] <tomreyn> !YY.MM | aleph- [16:59] <ubottu> aleph-: Ubuntu version numbers are: YY.MM (YY=release year,MM=release month). Each year sees two releases, so just specifying YY is imprecise. See also https://www.ubuntu.com/about/release-cycle [16:59] <aleph-> Yep, git it open in my browser [17:00] <aleph-> got* [17:00] <aleph-> And fair, 18.04LTS [17:00] <agile_prg> tomreyn I only have ssh access [17:00] <agile_prg> is there some easy to enable it from the command line? [17:01] <aleph-> If I'm reading it right, it's package version 2.04 for associated grub packages ya? [17:01] <aleph-> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1889509/comments/3 [17:01] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1889509 in grub2 (Ubuntu) "grub boot error : "symbol 'grub_calloc' not found" [High,Confirmed] [17:02] <pavlos> agile_prg: https://askubuntu.com/questions/304017/how-to-set-up-remote-desktop-sharing-through-ssh [17:02] <tomreyn> agile_prg: i'm not sure. you used to be able to do X forwarding and configure the vino VNC server that way. [17:02] <tomreyn> exactly that [17:03] <tomreyn> but i think someone stated recently this doesn't work on 20.04. i have not tried to verify this. [17:06] <agile_prg> I have tightvncserver running but the instructions want me to install xfce, can I just start gnome in there? [17:08] <compdoc> sadly, remote desktop requires a 2d desktop, which I dont think gnome has these days [17:08] <compdoc> I use ubuntu mate [17:08] <compdoc> and x2go is a lot better than vnc [17:09] <agile_prg> I have not heard of x2go [17:10] <compdoc> I like it because th clipboard works to copy and paste to the remote desktop and back [17:20] <pavlos> agile_prg: there's also nomachine, install on both local and remote systems, https://www.nomachine.com/download/linux&id=1 [17:21] <agile_prg> I have not heard of nomachine [17:22] <pavlos> agile_prg: similar to x2go, local/remote talk over port 4000 [17:23] <pavlos> agile_prg: https://www.saashub.com/compare-x2go-vs-nomachine [17:26] <agile_prg> I figured it out, special thanks to all who helped! [17:27] <blazed> ;) [17:28] <MikeRL> Anyone know if boothole can be remotely exploited? I'm curious because I'm not very well versed in security and I know someone who asked because they have servers that are up. Patching it requires a reboot. [17:28] <MikeRL> At least that's my assumption for them asking. I am pretty sure physically the servers are ok. [17:29] <MikeRL> I ofc know the patch requires a reboot because it's the bootloader and I've patched it on my laptop [17:31] <tomreyn> should be boot loader and kernel. and not remotely exploitable from what i've read. ask in #ubuntu-hardened to get more than a random idiots opinion. [17:32] <Zewwy> I like random idiot opinions [17:32] <MikeRL> random "idiot"'s opinion is better than nothing. thanks. [17:33] <Maik_aD> MikeRL: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/KnowledgeBase/GRUB2SecureBootBypass [17:33] <Maik_aD> if that is it^ [17:36] <leftyfb> Zewwy: can we help you with something? [17:37] <Zewwy> nope my issues so far have been resolved, just here to hear some random opinions :P [17:38] <Maik_aD> Zewwy: offtopic and discuss are suited for that :) [17:39] <Zewwy> https://tom-henderson.github.io/2019/04/12/ubuntu-vlan-config.html [17:39] <Zewwy> I'm following this I don't seem to have an inffaces.d folder under /etc/network [17:40] <Zewwy> i guess i have to use if-up.d? [17:41] <Zewwy> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/focal/man5/vlan-interfaces.5.html [17:41] <Zewwy> this one also mentions /etc/network/interfaces ... why do I not have this folder? [17:42] <tomreyn> maybe you're on an ubuntu version which no longer uses it [17:42] <Zewwy> 20.04 [17:42] <tomreyn> hard to tell for us since we don'T know what you'Re running [17:42] <pavlos> /e/n/interfaces is a file [17:42] <Zewwy> I clicked 20.04 LTS on the top nav, same info [17:42] <tomreyn> or didn't [17:42] <Zewwy> ok why do I not have this file [17:42] <Zewwy> Ubuntu Desktop 20.04 [17:43] <tomreyn> you'll be using netplan or network-manager [17:43] <tomreyn> the latter then [17:43] <Zewwy> i love change [17:43] <Zewwy> specially docuemntation good enough to kee up with said change [17:43] <tomreyn> so you read the release notes? [17:43] <Zewwy> is there a better reference for me to follow? [17:43] <pavlos> you're using netplan, see /etc/netplan/01-network..... [17:44] <leftyfb> Zewwy: https://netplan.io/examples [17:44] <leftyfb> Zewwy: https://ubuntu.com/blog/ubuntu-bionic-netplan [17:45] <leftyfb> Zewwy: the documentation is there. You just have to look for it [17:45] <Zewwy> it's painful, when you google "How to do vlan tagging on Ubuntu" and there is a whole wack of not proper info? [17:46] <Zewwy> or should I say a lot of mixed info [17:47] <tdm4> Hi.. I had to switch my mother's desktop from GNOME (3) to LXDE.. now, Chromium won't save passwords anymore, and I am seeing: gnome-keyring-daemon[2539]: couldn't access control socket: /run/user/1000/keyring/control: No such file or directory Any way to fix this so it works again? [17:48] <tdm4> gnome-keyring is running as the user, cmdline: /usr/bin/gnome-keyring-daemon --start --foreground --components=secrets [17:48] <tdm4> any ideas how to get it to access the already saved passwords? [17:48] <tdm4> I ran seahorse and it sees them [17:48] <Sven_vB> tdm4, check /proc/???/fd whether it has the socket opened. also check file/folder permissions [17:49] <Sven_vB> tdm4, you can also run the keyring daemon in a terminal to see its error output. maybe you can also find logs of the currently running instance. [17:49] <tomreyn> very old but may still apply https://askubuntu.com/questions/243210/why-do-i-get-this-warning-from-gnome-keyring-in-xubuntu [17:50] <tdm4> Sven_vB: gnome-keyring runs as user: /usr/bin/gnome-keyring-daemon --daemonize --login [17:50] <Sven_vB> tdm4, yeah I've read that [17:51] <Sven_vB> tdm4, it could still serve another socket that had the same path in the file system but is now deleted [17:52] <Sven_vB> tdm4, in /proc/<process id>/fd you can see which files the processes currently hold open, even for deleted files. [17:52] <tdm4> systemd[1]: session-c2.scope: Killing process 3209 (gnome-keyring-d) with signal SIGTERM. gnome-keyring-daemon[4025]: couldn't access control socket: /run/user/1000/keyring/control: No such file or directory [17:52] <tdm4> ok having a look [17:53] <Sven_vB> tdm4, in some cases you can even use that to recover files you accidentially deleted. :-) [17:53] <pavlos> Zewwy: http://www.confignotes.com/2017/10/ubuntu-802-1q-vlan-tagging/ [17:53] <Zewwy> thanks pavlos [17:54] <Zewwy> https://askubuntu.com/questions/992428/netplan-with-multiple-vlans-on-single-interface-help-needed [17:54] <Zewwy> was reading this one [17:54] <Zewwy> completely different than the ubuntu man pages [17:54] <tdm4> Sven_vB: well it's got 12 files open. 7 of them sockets [17:55] <tdm4> /run/user/1000/keyring/control type=STREAM is one of them [18:00] <tdm4> if I open seahorse, I can see the 'default keyring' unlocked with entries of 'Chrome Safe Storage Control'.. but Chromium has no saved passwords in it [18:00] <tomreyn> Zewwy: your confusion about 'the ubuntu man pages' is mostly because you didn't read the release notes and this haven't learnt that ifupdown (and /etc/network/interfaces) has been deprecated (but is still available, including its man page) in favor of netplan for servers, or just network-manager for desktops.. [18:00] <tomreyn> s/this/thus/ [18:00] <Zewwy> That info should be noted in the man pages [18:00] <Zewwy> if something changes, note it [18:01] <Zewwy> thanks for the extra details, and clarification [18:01] <tomreyn> that's what releas enotes are for. man pages refer to source packages, they will always try their best at explainig how to use this very software, but not explain a distros' buig picture. [18:02] <Zewwy> much apprciated [18:02] <tomreyn> *big picture [18:02] <tdm4> I think I found the cause.. Chromium spits out in terminal when you run it: ERROR:password_sync_bridge.cc(360)] Passwords datatype error was encountered: Failed to load entries from password store. Encryption service failure. [18:02] <Zewwy> When you follow a man page and there'es a discepancy, which there totally was here, and the fact server/and desktop have different managers, those are very helpful tid bits to add to the man pages [18:03] <Zewwy> instead expecting someone to read every releaese notes aor dig through them looking for a needle in hay stack [18:05] <tatertotz> Zewwy: desktop includes many managers...server to an extent expect the system administrator to "manage" [18:05] <tatertotz> Zewwy: just FYI [18:05] <Zewwy> totally [18:06] <quantum> How do I ask apt, which linux kernel I have installed? [18:07] <tatertotz> quantum: why ask apt?..."uname" with a "-a" [18:08] <quantum> jnewt I know, but that doesn't tell me the specific package. I'm in ARM-land and it could be one of 5 different flavors. [18:08] <leftyfb> quantum: apt list --installed |grep linux-image # will give you a good indication [18:08] <coconut> quantum, dpkg -l linux-* ? [18:09] <coconut> oh.. sorry ^ [18:09] <quantum> leftyfb: That doesn't show installed packages. [18:09] <leftyfb> quantum: yes, it does [18:10] <quantum> No, I'm not running 5.3. [18:10] <leftyfb> quantum: installed != running [18:10] <Zewwy> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/vlan [18:10] <Zewwy> yes this worked and was so easy, though it did mention that vconfig is deprciated? [18:10] <quantum> And it's not showing the version I am running. [18:11] <leftyfb> quantum: ARM could be different. Depending on the flavor, the kernel could be called something different or be part of some firmware package [18:11] <leftyfb> quantum: what version of ubuntu is this? [18:11] <quantum> Bionic [18:11] <leftyfb> Zewwy: that article is outdated and does not include netplan configs [18:11] <Zewwy> which is fine [18:11] <Zewwy> im doing this on a live instance and only need it temp [18:12] <Zewwy> so its perfect [18:12] <quantum> I'm running 4.9.213-67 but want to switch to 5.3.0-1030.32~18.04.2 [18:12] <agile_prg> ok, got a crazy problem I need miracle to fix, I have an ubuntu 16 virtual box trying to bootup and I see something like orphaned inode then it tries to continue then just abnormally shuts off [18:12] <agile_prg> it is using a vmdk [18:13] <agile_prg> my only idea is the vmdk is corrupted somehow and I need to somehow run fsck on it [18:13] <Maik_aD> quantum: 5.4.X because 5.3 kernel is EOL [18:13] <quantum> ... but every method I try shows the only 4 version is 4.9.230-74. Well that's not what I'm running either. [18:13] <Maik_aD> quantum: enable HWE [18:14] <quantum> Maik_aD: That would be wonderful, if it were in the repo. [18:14] <leftyfb> quantum: why do you care about the 4.9 kernels if you are trying to switch to 5.3? [18:14] <tomreyn> agile_prg: there's no "ubuntu 16" [18:14] <Maik_aD> quantum: HWE isn't in the repo, you have to enable it [18:14] <Zewwy> agile_prg: a vmdk is a vmware virual disk, no? [18:14] <quadrathoch2> quantum could it be that you are running some weird hardware? arm maybe? [18:15] <quantum> leftyfb: Because I could be running linux--image-generic, linux-image-raspi,, or any of 3 others. [18:15] <tomreyn> quantum: maybe you'r enot actually running ubuntu then [18:15] <quantum> I need to know what Odroid has specified for this board. So I need to know what kernel package I am now running, so I can insyall a similar updated one. [18:16] <agile_prg> I got it to book after going to recovery mode and saying boot normally [18:16] <leftyfb> quantum: uname -a # tells you your running kernel [18:16] <quadrathoch2> quantum you are probably stuck with 4.9 as bionic came out with 4.15. arm boards (where your odroid is based upon) has very bad support upstream [18:17] <tomreyn> packages where installed kernel images came from: dpkg -S /boot/vmlinuz-* | cut -d: -f1 [18:17] <quantum> 'tomreyn You mean I don't know what OS I'm running? What kind of place is this? snohomish planning and development apply building permit [18:18] <quantum> https://wiki.odroid.com/odroid-n2/os_images/ubuntu#ubuntu_18044_mate_desktop [18:18] <leftyfb> I'm pretty sure Ubuntu never shipped a 4.9 kernel with 18.04 [18:18] <tomreyn> quantum: i'm suggesting that you *may* be running some ubuntu derivative, which states it is ubuntu but really isn't. and your link seems to confirm this. [18:18] <leftyfb> quantum: that is not an official release of ubuntu [18:18] <quantum> Ubuntu 18.04.4 (MATE DESKTOP) is what I'm running. [18:19] <tomreyn> or what it states it is [18:19] <quantum> Oh so official releases can't tell what kernel package they're running? [18:19] <leftyfb> quantum: You are not running an official release [18:19] <tomreyn> official releaseas are downloaded from ubuntu.com and the other flavours websites [18:19] <tomreyn> !flavors [18:19] <ubottu> Recognized Ubuntu flavors build on Ubuntu and provide a different user experience out of the box. They are supported both in #ubuntu and in their flavor channel. For a list, see https://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu-flavours [18:19] <quantum> Oh so UNofficial releases can't tell what kernel package they're running? [18:20] <oerheks> quantum, lolz.. [18:20] <leftyfb> quantum: don't know, we don't support unofficial releases here. That is up to the distro maintainer [18:20] <tomreyn> after all we couldn't know how those were put together [18:20] <quantum> This looks like a waste of time. I need professionals. [18:21] <oerheks> quantum, lolz.. you need glasses. [18:21] <tomreyn> yes, talk directly to those supporting your image [18:21] <leftyfb> quantum: you need Odroid support professionals. [18:21] <quantum> No, I need someone with a reasonable command of Ubongo dpkg system. [18:22] <Zewwy> lol === dominic35 is now known as dominic34 [18:24] <leftyfb> not a troll at all [18:24] <tdm4> Sven_vB: found the cause! Password store in chromium got screwed up: https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=607882 [18:25] <tdm4> had to remove the entries from gnome-keyring (with seahorse) while chromium was closed.. and remove 'Login Data*' from the profile [18:25] <tdm4> storing them properly now [18:25] <tdm4> what a palaver! [19:01] <rr123> default virtualbox on ubuntu 20.04 failed to install ubuntu 20.04 server, without no local modifications whatsoever [19:02] <rr123> s/no/any [19:02] <Zewwy> Any specific eror, or logs lines? [19:03] <rr123> nothing in particular, I sent the full report to canonical [19:04] <rr123> it just says failed to install, in the middle is does say subiquity has an update to use, which I skipped(tried it first, and failed) [19:05] <rr123> download guest addition and see if that helps [19:05] <tatertotz> rr123: which version of virtualbox? [19:06] <rr123> 6.1.10 the default on 20.04 [19:06] <rr123> trying to make life simpler and I just use the default stuff for now [19:08] <blazed> when did the install fail? did the vb install fail or did the install of ubuntu server fail after the configuration etc? [19:10] <tatertotz> rr123: virtualbox itself installed fine...you are failing at deploying a GuestOS/VM correct? [19:10] <tatertotz> rr123: probably want to re clarify that [19:10] <blazed> yea ;) [19:10] <blazed> agreed [19:11] <rr123> vbox is fine, what's the system requirement for server, I gave it 1GB/10GB [19:11] <rr123> just reboot vbox and it can't start the live-server.iso [19:11] <rr123> trying to find sha1sum for iso now [19:11] <tatertotz> rr123: ok thanks...that clears that up...you are unable to deploy a GuestOS of Ubuntu 20.xx server edition [19:12] <rr123> yes thanks [19:12] <rr123> sha1sum is correct, why can't it boot is beyond me [19:13] <blazed> do you not get any errors? [19:13] <rr123> a verbose report file which I sent to Canonical but a quick read found nothing standing out, still trying [19:13] <rr123> restarting again [19:14] <blazed> and you have configured virtualbox correctly regarding the hard drive, cpu, ram network etc .. bot devices and .iso to boot from? [19:15] <blazed> boot* [19:15] <tatertotz> rr123: are you chatting from the computer right now? [19:15] <rr123> yes, i used vbox for years [19:15] <tatertotz> rr123: in terminal> inxi -Fxxprzc0|nc termbin.com 9999 [19:16] <blazed> ok sorry just wanted to check that's all :) [19:16] <tatertotz> rr123: share url/link here..if you do not get a url/link...simply say so [19:16] <rr123> failed again, only two steps I changed: 1. install openssh server 2. refused to upgrade subiquity (because it will fail anyways) [19:16] <blazed> .. so it's failing "during the install" ? [19:17] <tatertotz> rr123: if not installed follow instructions to install then follow through [19:17] <tomreyn> maybe 1 GB is not enough for live-updating the live-installer [19:17] <rr123> blazed: right after it starts to install, let me find the full report [19:18] <blazed> yea i was gonna say try assigning more resource to the server prior to install [19:18] <blazed> it sounds like a resource issue if it's cutting out during the install process etc [19:22] <rr123> ok, will bump RAM to 2GB, meanwhile it says "Failed to fetch ..." some Hash sum mismatch, then "curtin command in-target, curtin failed with exception" [19:24] <tomreyn> rr123: this sounds like you need to verify the iso checksums [19:24] <tomreyn> oh you did [19:24] <tomreyn> yes, ram then [19:25] <sarnold> rr123: are you getting hash sum mismatches often? [19:25] <rr123> never [19:30] <blazed> any luck after the ram increase? [19:31] <tarrie> is rhythmbox able to determine album/artist from the directory the mp3s are in? i imported my library and its all "01 track, 02 track" e.g. [19:31] <rr123> nope [19:31] <rr123> googling, some had similar issue(curtin command in-target ..stuck) in 18.04.3 on real Dell machine and had to change BIOS to UTC [19:32] <rr123> this is actually my first time failing to install ubuntu, for the last 15 years that is [19:32] <tomreyn> tarrie: probably not, i'd expect it to read id3 tags but not that [19:33] <tarrie> tomreyn, thx anyway [19:34] <tomreyn> rr123: you could try a recent daily build, or try again after the 20.04.1 release on aug 6th [19:36] <rr123> reboot again, this time it allows subiquity upgrade at the start [19:36] <tomreyn> rr123: maybe also try virtualbox from the upstream apt repository. i switched to that a good while ago since the deb's in ubuntu had too many bugs. [19:37] <tomreyn> (in universe, so community maintained) [19:37] <rr123> ok after 6 tries i gave up [19:37] <rr123> let me try a different virtualbox [19:40] <blazed> tomreyn indeed! you need the correct rep for it to work correctly. [19:40] <blazed> rr123 do: sudo add-apt-repository multiverse && sudo apt-get update [19:40] <blazed> then install vb [19:41] <blazed> sudo apt install virtualbox [19:41] <blazed> using the software manager to install it might not have worked correctly. Just a thought [19:43] <tomreyn> oh it's multiverse, not universe. but my suggestion would be the builds from virtualbox.org [19:43] <blazed> yep and ensure the vm is configured correctly. Sounds like a resource issue to me [19:44] <blazed> or misconfiguration [19:45] <blazed> or could potentially be a nested issue if the primary os running the vb install is a vm lol xD - logs logs logs ;) [19:47] <quadrathoch2> does somebody have the bug# for the grub2 issue? [19:48] <EriC^^> quadrathoch2: this one https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1889509 ? [19:48] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1889509 in grub2 (Ubuntu) "grub boot error : "symbol 'grub_calloc' not found" [High,Confirmed] [19:48] <quadrathoch2> thanks EriC^^ [19:49] <EriC^^> np [19:49] <quadrathoch2> got a grub2 update which has a higher number than the post by canonical, so I ask myself if it could be fixed [19:50] <oerheks> quadrathoch2, yes, [19:50] <oerheks> Version 2.02-2ubuntu8.17: [19:50] <oerheks> * debian/postinst.in: Avoid calling grub-install on upgrade of the grub-pc [19:50] <oerheks> package, since we cannot be certain that it will install to the correct [19:50] <oerheks> disk and a grub-install failure will render the system unbootable. [19:50] <oerheks> LP: #1889556. [19:50] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1889556 in grub2 (Ubuntu Groovy) "grub-install failure does not fail package upgrade (and does not roll back to matching modules)" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1889556 [19:51] <oerheks> oops [19:51] <quadrathoch2> ahh great thanks :) [19:52] <oerheks> have fun! [20:10] <GKirchhoff> I had to do a fresh install of W10 on a separate drive and it decided to put its EFI files on the existing EFI partition that my Ubuntu install uses. Ubunutu is on nvme0n1, W10 is on sdc and they share an EFI partition on nvme0n1. I need to split the EFI partition so that windows could still boot if the ssd that Ubuntu is on is removed or vice [20:11] <GKirchhoff> versa. The plan was to just use gparted make space on the windows drive and clone the efi partition, afterwards removing the linux and windows parts respectively. Anyone have either a better solution or a idea of how to go about this? [20:11] <rr123> install vbox 6.1.12 from oracle, still failed the same way, tried 18.04.4 server, got stuck too, might be a vbox issue [20:15] <rjwiii> I just got a notification in Ubuntu 20.04.1 and it disappeared too quickly for me to read it ... is there a notification "history"? [20:17] <oerheks> open the date 'button' on the top panel, notifications are stored there [20:18] <EriC^^> GKirchhoff: could you pastebin 'sudo parted -ls' ? [20:20] <GKirchhoff> EriC^^ https://pastebin.com/sHWzX90S [20:27] <EriC^^> GKirchhoff: you could resize the ntfs by around 300mb at it's end and create a fat32 partition there [20:28] <GKirchhoff> EriC^^ So I'm in the clear to just move shit around as long as the flags and filesystem are set, right? [20:28] <EriC^^> GKirchhoff: if you still have the windows install media you could then boot it and go to advanced options, mount the relevant partitions using diskpart and then install the efi files and stuff [20:28] <EriC^^> yeah [20:29] <GKirchhoff> EriC^^: Great. thats what I thought, but the last time I assumed, I bricked both my windows and ubuntu installs. And killed the hdd they were on. [20:29] <Napk1n> "/etc/init.d/cron stop" Is this supposed to stop currently running cronjobs? [20:30] <Napk1n> if not is there a way to stop all running cronjobs with 1 command? [20:46] <Kali_Yuga> Hello somebody using anydesk? I would like to turn off automatic startup but I can't seem to find the setting where to turn it off? it doesn't show up in 'startup and shutdown' in KDE settings :(? [20:48] <agile_prg> hi all, I am looking for an ubuntu lite linux appliance to download with desktop, anyone know of any? [20:48] <agile_prg> smaller the better [20:57] <Kali_Yuga> I didn't find that setting inside anydesk anywhere which is stupid, but I added it in 'Startup and shutdown' and disabled it in there that way, hopefully that did it.. I'll see next time i restart. [20:58] <Kali_Yuga> when* [21:00] <Kali_Yuga> is there an easy to use free software replacement for teamviewer or anydesk? I found several but they are very hard to set up... === glguy is now known as Guest13120 === glguy_ is now known as glguy [21:01] <sarnold> Kali_Yuga: what do teamviewer or anydesk do? [21:05] <agile_prg> is there some fast way to download a virtualbox ubuntu appliance osboxes.org is very slow [21:15] <sarnold> agile_prg: perhaps http://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/focal/current/ ? looks like there's an .ova file in there, the description says "VMware/Virtualbox OVA" [21:18] <agile_prg> sarnold I need the desktop please [21:19] <sarnold> oh, hmm, good question. is vagrant still around? does that download virtualbox things? [21:21] <Kali_Yuga> sarnold: teamviewer and anydesk, uhm desktop sharing, remote control applications [21:22] <sarnold> Kali_Yuga: aha; remmina perhaps? I hear about it sometimes [21:23] <leftyfb> Kali_Yuga: why do they need to be free software? Do they do what you need? [21:23] <leftyfb> Kali_Yuga: AFAIK, there'sno OSS versions to speak of. Nothing commercial anyway. [21:23] <Kali_Yuga> sarnold: yes but idk very hard to set up to complicated :? [21:24] <sarnold> Kali_Yuga: I'm not sure, I've never used it [21:25] <Kali_Yuga> sarnold: probably works fine, but it's weird. I've tried it once but I didn't get it... [21:25] <sarnold> oh :/ [21:31] <Kali_Yuga> why free software? because I just prefer free software. If I have no choice yeah I need to use proprietary software but if there is an alternative that does the same thing, I use that instead... [21:31] <Kali_Yuga> leftyfb: [21:35] <Kali_Yuga> and yes anydesk does what I need it to do... before I was using teamviewer, but they blocked my access because they tell me that I use it commercially. I had to contact teamviewer that I use it privately which they eventually freed my account again [21:36] <Kali_Yuga> but now it happend again where it says "commercial use detected" and I just got tired off it and now use Anydesk instead [22:00] <AppAraat[m]> on 18.04... does this update have the potential of making my system unbootable? https://paste.debian.net/1158507/ [22:00] <AppAraat[m]> context: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23999212 [22:01] <tomreyn> run with -V and you'll see versions [22:06] <AppAraat[m]> oh, that's a handy flag. Thanks! Here's the output of that: https://paste.debian.net/1158512/ [22:08] <oerheks> new grub2 update is out, not on USN i see.. [22:10] <sarnold> AppAraat[m]: 2.02-2ubuntu8.17 is the latest version released a few hours ago https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/bionic-changes/2020-July/028427.html to try to help people with incorrectly-configured legacy booting systems continue to boot correctly [22:14] <tomreyn> lots of people are mixing the security bug(s) which is about secure boot bypass, with the problem where incorrectly-configured legacy booting systems fail to boot [22:15] <AppAraat[m]> oh, I hope I have it configured correctly. I just have it all on 1 disk currently. [22:16] <tomreyn> then it should be easy for you to just run grub-install against where you want the boot loader once more before you reboot [22:17] <tomreyn> actually run dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc [22:17] <sarnold> I think that's half the problem -- folks using grub-install to install to a device without having the correct placement known to debconf. I've seen sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc suggested as the solution [22:19] <tomreyn> so this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/KnowledgeBase/GRUB2SecureBootBypass#Existing_Cloud_.2F_MAAS_instances_may_fail_reboot [22:19] <AppAraat[m]> I'll update my backup data before doing that just in case. [22:22] <Tripknotix> hello ubunto crowd, i am fairly new to linux, we are trying to use it at work, we have a monitor from our warehouse that we have attached to our box with a relatively new version of ubuntu on it, however the touch screen doesnt seem to work, and i am not sure how or where to get the driver, this is the model number i found in the back LCD12WVGAXTS [22:22] <Tripknotix> LCD12WVGAXTS [22:22] <Tripknotix> and this is the web page i found from googling it, https://millertech.com/product/lcd12wvgax/ [22:23] <Tripknotix> i am told that its possible that if linux doesnt see it, it may not work at all [22:25] <sarnold> is that ps/2 connector for the touch screen? [22:26] <Tripknotix> its usb for the touch screen [22:26] <Tripknotix> thats svideo [22:26] <pavlos> looks like an S-video connector [22:26] <sarnold> ahhhh [22:27] <sarnold> does lsusb show the touch screen? [22:27] <oerheks> might work best with HDMI? [22:27] <oerheks> even it is not full 1080i [22:28] <Tripknotix> we are using hdmi [22:28] <pavlos> nope, not svideo (4 pins) but this connector shows 8 pins [22:28] <Tripknotix> lsusb is a command? [22:28] <pavlos> yes [22:29] <oerheks> xinput list [22:29] <Nemo9> heyy anybody know how to start libreoffice from terminal in fullscreen mode [22:30] <Nemo9> i cant find any flags from man page [22:30] <oerheks> Nemo9, why, do you want to make a starter? [22:31] <Nemo9> yeah so i just configured mpv and sxiv [22:31] <Nemo9> also zathura [22:31] <Nemo9> from rifle.conf [22:31] <Nemo9> in ranger [22:31] <Nemo9> so that they start fullscreen directly [22:32] <Tripknotix> found it [22:32] <Nemo9> really?? [22:33] <Tripknotix> D-Wave Scientific Co., Ltd eGalax Touchscreen [22:33] <rjwiii> oerheks: Thanks for the answer ... when I click on the date button, the notification is not there either ... anywhere else to look? [22:34] <Tripknotix> it shows up in xinput list, as well [22:34] <oerheks> rjwiii, journalctl -xe [22:35] <Tripknotix> Vitrual Core Pointer: eGalax Inc. USB TouchController id=12 [slave pointer (2)] [22:37] <Tripknotix> so why doesnt the touch screen work? any guesses? [22:37] <Tripknotix> or how might i "initialize it" or something [22:38] <oerheks> Tripknotix, now you know it works/ as in 'recognised, i find; https://askubuntu.com/questions/1088353/egalax-touchscreen-no-input-on-ubuntu-18-04 [22:38] <sarnold> that looks promising [22:38] <Tripknotix> oh that would have been a good google search [22:39] <oerheks> search: eGalax Inc. USB TouchController [22:39] <oerheks> this usb part seem to go over hdmi. [22:39] <oerheks> nice [22:41] <oerheks> and a bug, with confirmation that updated driver works https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libinput/+bug/1772083 [22:41] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1772083 in libinput (Ubuntu) "eGalax touchscreen is identified as tablet. Doesn't work" [Undecided,Confirmed] [22:45] <Tripknotix> ok thank you, im downloading the driver and ill see where ic an get instructions for using it, hopefully inside the zip [22:47] <sarnold> that first askubuntu answer looks pretty good. I wish it had more details on what the ./setup.sh step does, but the rest of it looks solid [22:47] <rjwiii> oerheks: Still can't find it ... the notification made a noise when I was turned around to my work computer. The notification caused my screens to wake up and I saw the notification. It disappeared, so I clicked on the date "button" and saw the notification there. Before I could read it, it disappeared from there, too ... Thought some script kiddie was trying to crack my computer ... [22:48] <oerheks> maybe a mount ready? [22:49] <rjwiii> oerheks: donno ... Ubuntu should log the notifications ... I seem to remember the letters "CID", but it disappeared so fast, I'm not sure ... [22:55] <Fronchetti> Hi, I am facing an issue with my computer which I don't know exactly how to find a solution: I have a laptop with a RTX 2080, and I am using an external monitor through the HDMI output. However, for some strange reason, my builtin monitor is frozen while my external monitor is reproducing the video of my builtin monitor (If I use the touchscreen of [22:55] <Fronchetti> my builtin monitor, for example, the external monitor reproduces the interactions). I already tried to change the drivers, update it, remove it, etc. I have no idea where I can find assistance for this problem. [22:55] <Fronchetti> Do you folks know where I could find a solution for this problem? [22:55] <Fronchetti> Thanks in advance [22:56] <Fronchetti> Google is not helping me :( === wylel is now known as wylel-irc [23:00] <Nemo9> anyone here to help with the libreoffice flag [23:00] <Nemo9> i cant figure out how to run it fullscreen mode [23:00] <Nemo9> like mpv --fs or zathura --mode fullscreen [23:02] <sarnold> Nemo9: I didn't see anything either; wht window manager do you run? sometimes window managers have a way to specify what should happen for clients with specific names etc [23:03] <Nemo9> im running linux mint [23:03] <Nemo9> cinnamon desktop [23:03] <Nemo9> so gnome wm [23:03] <Nemo9> or whatever [23:04] <Nemo9> is window manager = desktop manager the same? [23:04] <quadrathoch2> Nemo9 so not ubuntu. go to the linuxmint help [23:04] <Nemo9> how [23:04] <Nemo9> ?? [23:04] <Nemo9> whats the channel name [23:04] <quadrathoch2> !linuxmint [23:04] <ubottu> The Ubuntu channels can only provide support for Ubuntu and its official flavors, since other distributions and derivatives have repository and software changes. So please use their dedicated support venues, for example: Linux Mint (#linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org), Kali Linux (#kali-linux), and LXLE (#lxle) [23:04] <Nemo9> ok thnxx [23:04] <Nemo9> i dont think its the problem though [23:10] <Nemo9> helloo [23:10] <Nemo9> cant find anyone at MINT [23:10] <sarnold> open a support ticket? [23:11] <Nemo9> i dont know howw [23:11] <Nemo9> i just installed irssi === kreyren_ is now known as kreyren === mnemonic is now known as Guest92051 [23:50] <strixdio> hey everyone, having an issue with U2F in chromium vs google-chrome. Yubikey works in both, but my Trezor only works in google-chrome. I have the udev rules installed for the Trezor. Any ideas what the difference might be?