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Majoragood morning01:01
Nemo9hii01:03
Nemo9anyone know of an FZF IRC channel?01:04
guivercNemo9, why ask here, this is Ubuntu Support?  Look in the available channels yourself maybe01:12
Bashing-om!alis | Nemo901:13
ubottuNemo9: Alis is an IRC service to help you find channels. For help on using it, see "/msg Alis help list" or ask in #freenode. Example usage: "/msg Alis list http"01:13
sorcererNemo9: /msg alis help list01:13
derek0883I got "The following packages cannot be authenticated!"01:17
derek0883anyone know how to fix this/01:17
Nemo9guiverc: okay just thought someone would know coz ot of people here01:17
Nemo9thnx alot ill check that command01:18
Bashing-omderek0883: What is the exact error ? "cannot be authenticated!" is this the Boothole vulnerability ? : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/KnowledgeBase/GRUB2SecureBootBypass01:19
MadmaninTrainHello01:20
derek0883@Bashing-om, No I'm trying to customize ubuntu iso, I added some extra deb to pool,  after install, I want use apt install xxx, the apt source is cdrom, I got this error01:21
Bashing-omderek0883: Hokay - then a signing key needs to be availabale ?01:22
derek0883curl -fsSL https://download.docker.com/linux/ubuntu/gpg | sudo apt-key add -01:23
derek0883sudo apt-key fingerprint 0EBFCD8801:23
derek0883yes, during live build, I use this command01:23
derek0883apk-key list | grep 0EBFCD88, I can see the key is installed01:24
derek0883after I boot with ubuntu live ISO01:24
neighbourmiketest01:27
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oerheksderek0883, how old is the live iso ? did you run sudo apt update first?01:55
oerheksoh wait, you are the live builder,01:55
derek0883It is old ubuntu 16.04, not 16.04.601:55
derek0883I using live-build to build the iso, I'm still tring to figure out how to build 16.04.601:56
oerheksinteresting..01:56
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derek0883is it possible using live-build to build 16.04.06 directly?01:56
oerheksuse cubic or some tool like that?01:57
derek0883cubic is GUI based, right?01:58
derek0883I'm looking for a script based01:58
derek0883I guess ubuntu daily build use live-build, is that right?01:58
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derek0883Anyone know how to get latest ubuntu using live-build, I got ubuntu 16.04, not ubuntu 16.04.602:16
Bashing-omderek0883: Does this help: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/16.04.6/release/ ?02:26
derek0883let me check02:28
derek0883The source images contain the source code used to build Ubuntu.02:28
derek0883I guess it is source code of each deb package, let me download source images02:28
NOVPisethhello everyone, do you have any issue the same as me03:23
NOVPisethwhen ping from outside to my ubuntu03:23
NOVPisethhttps://prnt.sc/tsblf703:23
NOVPisethit became like this03:23
NOVPisethdrop some ping03:23
BT40Hi.03:24
NOVPisethI never use firewall03:24
BT40please help regarding terminal java compatability. I am typing this in terminal>  /home/hextreme/./local/lib/python2/7/site-packages/nosqldb/kvproxy/lib/kvproxy/jar:              And java is replacing slash with dot which throws an error: .home.hextreme..local.lib.python2.7.site-packages.nosqldb.kvproxy.lib.kvproxy.jar:03:25
BT40 03:25
BT40Problem is .local directory hidden, java is interpreting ./local to ..local03:26
BT40can I unhide local directory in Home folder?03:26
t-nelsonBT40: ./local in the path should just be .local03:30
BT40thank you03:30
t-nelsonyw03:31
BT40t-nelson, what about python2.7>? it is also interpreted as python2/703:31
BT40any hack?03:31
BT40can i safely rename python folder?03:31
t-nelsonOh, no sorry I missed that, it should be python2.7, not python2/703:32
BT40t-nelson, again got error:    Typed this>  /home/hextreme/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/nosqldb/kvproxy/lib/kvproxy.jar03:35
BT40python2.7 becomes pythobt/703:35
BT40python2/7 in java03:35
BT40.home.hextreme.local.lib.python2.7.site-packages.nosqldb.kvproxy.lib.kvproxy.jar      This is java treating it as03:37
t-nelsonAre you sure you're supposed to be running it like that?  That dir holds user-installed python packages03:38
t-nelsonis there not some "python -m nosqldb.kvproxy" type command you can run?03:39
t-nelsonOr install it properly03:39
BT40no. Can i rename directory from python2.7 to python2?03:39
t-nelsonThat will break python03:41
Nemo9python2.7 is EOL03:44
t-nelsonUh huh03:45
t-nelson$ lsb_release -r03:45
t-nelsonRelease:        20.0403:45
t-nelson$ python --version03:45
t-nelsonPython 2.7.18rc103:45
BT40okay03:46
Bashing-om!info python3 focal03:49
ubottupython3 (source: python3-defaults): interactive high-level object-oriented language (default python3 version). In component main, is important. Version 3.8.2-0ubuntu2 (focal), package size 46 kB, installed size 189 kB03:49
NOVPisethwarning: stopping systemd-networkd.service, but it can still activated by: systemd-networkd.socket ubuntu 1804:06
NOVPisethhave anyone ever met this problem?04:06
NOVPisethI used netplan try04:07
zmoohello ubuntu channel04:55
Majoragreetings05:25
zmoohello ubuntu channel05:57
zmooanyone know how to disable the default grub root=UUID= part05:58
zmooand instead identify by something like /dev/disk/by-id/scsi-3600508e00000000033fc38e46b944504-part305:59
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bolgnesehi all can i ask about use of built-ins terminal(bsh)here?06:44
bolgnesefind command in conjuntion with cp command06:44
bolgnesei have used the following and i would like to copy all files found to usb (find . -name  "*.skp")06:46
bolgneseim in the /run/media/hddx folder and would like to copy to the /run/media/dn/usb please06:47
bolgnesewould this be correct "find . -name ".skp | cp /run/media/dn/usb"    ?06:49
EriC^^no06:50
bolgneseassuming im in the folder i want to look recursively for .skp files06:50
EriC^^what about .SKP ?06:50
bolgneseEriC^^, how would i go about it (i want to search current dir +sub dirs(recursively) for .skp files then copy any found with grep or find to an external usb drive06:51
EriC^^find -type f -iname '*.skp' -exec cp {} /run/media/dn/usb \;06:52
bolgnesei will be starting in the top dir of where all .skp are located and this location is specifically /run/media/dn/usb06:52
EriC^^beware if it finds 2 .skps with same name it would overwrite them06:52
EriC^^iname is for case insensitive06:53
bolgnesethank you and is there a way to avoid that (two names) and to look for both case Aa in the one command06:54
bolgnesesorry just read above06:54
bolgnesethank you06:54
EriC^^bolgnese: you could use cp -i {} .... it should bring up a prompt when about to overwrite so you'd know06:55
EriC^^otherwise you'd have to use find | while .. with an if statement that checks if file exists already and then renames it or something06:56
bolgnesethank you all very much most helpful =)07:00
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DVA5912Im not sure what the speeds of the bus that controlls my laptops Wifi card are, but im curious if its the card, or the bus causing my speed issues. Swapped out a 2.4 Ghz only card for a Dualband with BT. Ubuntu picked it up right away without additional drivers (latest ubuntu) Im getting around 30 mb down, with exactly 5.23 up.. With a hardwire usb08:59
DVA5912im able to get full speeds of 254 down and 31 up. Is there any way i could test or otherwise tell if that wifi bus is causing the issue vs the new card?08:59
tatertotzDVA5912: are you chatting from the computer righ tnow09:03
DVA5912tatertotz yes i am09:04
tatertotzDVA5912: in terminal>     inxi -Fxxprzc0|nc termbin.com 999909:04
tatertotzDVA5912: follow instructions on screen to install if not installed then follow through09:04
tatertotzDVA5912: share url/link here..if you do not get a url/link..simply say so09:04
DVA5912tatertotz this is a live disk im running off of. I dont show inxi installed and no package available to install09:06
tatertotzDVA5912: oh you're on LiveCD/LiveUSB..N/A then09:06
Jordan_U_DVA5912: Please pastebin the output of "lspci -vv -k".09:11
kostas5I am trying to boot but I get a "gave up waiting for root file system device" error. Any ideas?09:11
rajI'm looking to convert my Ubuntu to use WSL2 from WSL1, do I still need to run `dism.exe /online /enable-feature /featurename:VirtualMachinePlatform /all /norestart` as per https://ubuntu.com/blog/ubuntu-on-wsl-2-is-generally-available ? I wasn't clear on that09:12
Jordan_U_kostas5: Do you have more than one hard drive?09:12
kostas5Jordan_U_: no, its a laptop09:12
Jordan_U_raj: #ubuntu-on-windows for that.09:12
DVA5912Jordan_U_ https://pastebin.com/yJY4eSdG09:13
rajthanks09:13
rajactually, no thanks! that place is a desert09:14
DVA5912raj seen the tumbleweeds rolling by did ya XD09:14
rajyes   😂09:15
Jordan_U_raj: Unfortunatly I don't expect there's many people in this channel that know a lot about WSL. At least with #ubuntu-on-windows you might get an answer in a few hours, where here it's more likely your question will just get lost in the scroll and never found by someone that can actually help you. There are also non-IRC support resources.09:17
rajwhere can I go for non-IRC support?09:18
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Jordan_U_raj: There's https://askubuntu.com and  https://ubuntuforums.org .09:19
Jordan_U_raj: I'd try https://askubuntu.com first, but try to check that they actually allow ubuntu-on-windows question there first.09:20
rajoh that's what you meant09:22
rajthanks Jordan_U_09:22
tatertotzDVA5912: you don't have a OS installed to disk?09:25
DVA5912tatertotz just win1009:26
tatertotzDVA5912: oh okay09:27
DVA5912tatertotz i poped this live disk in to see if the issue was still persistant accross the os. Ubuntu still has it, but just no where near the extent that windows does. Win had it to 24-28 down and pushing 1.5 Up09:27
Jordan_U_DVA5912: Please pastebin the outout of "dmesg --human".09:27
tatertotzDVA5912: you made the same observatioin in Windows 10 also?09:28
DVA5912tatertotz correct09:28
tatertotzDVA5912: that rules OS's out09:28
Jordan_U_DVA5912: Did your previous wireless card get better speeds?09:29
DVA5912tatertotz which should also rule drivers out then.. right?09:29
tatertotzDVA5912: yep09:29
DVA5912Jordan_U_ no. it was a 2.4G only, i got 15 down with 1.5 up09:29
tatertotzDVA5912: those devices perform the same regardless of Win10 or GNU/Linux09:29
Jordan_U_DVA5912: 2.4 GHz can easily do 100mbps down and up.09:30
DVA5912i am not getting that any where close. so its sounding more and more like the bus..09:30
tatertotzDVA5912: rules out software09:30
DVA5912Jordan_U_ how can i pipe that into a text file for you09:30
tatertotzDVA5912: and this chat room is for support of the Ubuntu desktop OS "software"09:31
DVA5912ok point taken. ill move to #hardware then..09:31
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koldfu09:43
koldfhey,  I managed to fix the issue with modules09:44
koldfhad to rm them manually, also headers then issue the install --reinstall command09:44
koldfI have a different issue now, considering that I'm running ubuntu  Ubuntu 19.10 x86_6409:44
koldfIs there a way to do a release upgrade at all?09:45
koldffim here09:48
futureRichcan i know command of eix?09:57
halvardIm trying to install apache2 on a rpi4 with external hdd. How do I make it automount with the correct permissions?10:37
Jordan_U_halvard: Installing apache2 and mounting the external hard drive seem to be two separate things. Are you trying to use the external HD to hold /var/www/ ?10:39
halvardI tried every tutorial on how to give correct permissions, but I never solved the issue about Apache needed to be able to search though /media/Ubuntu/mnm/www10:40
halvardJordan_U_: Yes10:40
halvardSomeone said udisk its mounting it with wacky permissions10:41
Jordan_U_halvard: What filesystem is on the external hard drive? What version of Ubuntu are you using?10:42
halvardUbuntu 20.04, file system fuse10:43
Jordan_U_halvard: fuse isn't a filesytem. Is the external drive using NTFS? Are you using the filesystem it came with?10:52
halvardDisks say: Contents: FAT (32-bit)10:53
halvardJordan_P_: Further it says mounted at /boot/firmware10:54
halvardi didnt know about that, or if it matters10:55
halvardoh sorry. system boot was fat, and writable partition is EXT410:56
halvardMounted at file system root10:56
rattlebattle79hi11:00
BluesKaj'Morning all11:01
marcoagpintoBluesKaj: Hello11:03
BluesKajhi marcoagpinto11:04
halvardJordan_U_: Sorry! The external hard drive is NTFS, mounted at /media/ubuntu/mnm11:07
awilkinsSo : just installed 20.04. Because of my work, need full disk encryption to be on. Also because of my work, need to dual-boot machine (some people just insist you run Windows ...). Discovered that Ubiquity no longer supports LVM-on-LUKS unless you are wiping the entire disk. Sorting this out is a MAJOR pain in the ass. This is kind of an issue for anyone who needs full disk encryption in anything but the most vanilla configuration.11:31
EriC^^awilkins: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManualFullSystemEncryption11:32
tomreynawilkins: see also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Full_Disk_Encryption_Howto_201912:03
tomreynalso look at cryptsetup-reencrypt which allows for online encryption starting (i think, at least in LTS terms) 20.04 LTS.12:04
raj#postgresql is oddly quiet for the past few hours, hoping someone here may know the answer: I'm upgrading from ubuntu 18 to 20 and I'm being asked this question https://i.imgur.com/VhvL6Ls.png and I don't know what to do  =|12:08
rajany guidance would be appreciated12:08
rajI don't really know what "upgrading the 10/main cluster" means12:09
boredguyBackup the old cluster first to wherever12:10
lotuspsychjeraj: postgres section also has 2 upstream releasenotes too: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FocalFossa/ReleaseNotes12:12
boredguyIt should be simple though12:12
boredguyhttps://stackoverflow.com/questions/60409585/how-to-upgrade-postgresql-database-from-10-to-12-without-losing-data-for-openpro12:13
rajthank you  =)12:14
lotuspsychjeboredguy: should be yes, but in the middle of an update things can get harder12:15
rajone more question, https://i.imgur.com/IbREXvB.png12:15
rajI'm on WSL12:15
rajso not sure how that affects this12:15
lotuspsychjeraj: usually grub is installed on the first partition, sda, but only you can know wich you have chosen last time?12:18
rajI actually don't recall12:20
rajit would be on the boot partition, no?12:20
rajbut how do I know which one is the boot partition?12:20
lotuspsychjethat depends wich the user has chosen raj12:20
awilkinstomreyn, I like the extra "storing a key file" step, this is roughly the procedure I ended up with12:20
lotuspsychjebut in most common cases users choose sda12:21
rajok12:21
awilkinsMight go back and create a keyfile now12:21
rajlotuspsychje, if I can see the labels then I would know12:21
rajis that possible?12:21
lotuspsychjeraj: if you can get a tty next your upgrade12:23
rajI can12:23
lotuspsychjesudo fdisk -l12:23
rajlotuspsychje, https://paste.ee/p/RfSNl12:24
rajstill not clear12:24
rajagain, I'm on WSL, so not sure how that plays a part12:24
rajI feel like I probably don't need grub tbh12:25
lotuspsychjeraj: was that the only output of fdisk?12:27
rajyes12:27
lotuspsychjeraj: yeah that might be indeed due wsl i think, but i never actually played with it myself12:27
rajsda and sdb are the last two entries12:27
rajok gotcha12:27
rajI'll skip it for now, and hopefully I can install it later if needbe12:28
lotuspsychjemy fdisk gives the device /dev/sda itself with all partitions on12:28
lotuspsychje!ubuwin | raj see also;12:28
ubotturaj see also;: Windows 10 has a feature called Windows Subsystem for Linux, which allows it to run Ubuntu (and other Linux distro) userspace programs without porting/recompliation. For discussion and support, see #ubuntu-on-windows or ##windows. For installation instructions, see https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/commandline/wsl/install_guide12:28
lotuspsychjethey might know more of that virtual disk12:29
rajthank you12:29
Sven_vBhi! what's the thing called that we switch with Ctrl+Alt+F{1..8}, are those seats? I thought "virtual terminal" but that sounds a bit off for the graphical ones.13:31
oerhekstty ?13:32
BluesKajvt/tty13:32
Sven_vBoh ok, so even if they run lightdm.13:32
Sven_vBthen now I can ask my actual question. :-) is there a way to start lightdm on a background VT (7/8 in my case) without disturbing a local user typing into another VT (in my case a shell on tty2)?13:33
lotuspsychje!tty13:33
ubottuTo get to the TTY terminals 3-6, use the keystroke Ctrl + Alt + F3-F6 respectively. Ctrl-Alt-F2 or Ctrl-Alt-F1 will get you back to your graphical login (Ctrl-Alt-F7 on 16.04). To change TTY resolution, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ChangeTTYResolution13:33
Sven_vBin focal13:33
srgedIs there any way to disable to confirmation check for the trashed items ?14:00
DVA5912In yall's experience, does Ubuntu 20 need to have TRIM enabled for SSDs or is it set automaticaly14:01
tomreyn!YY.MM | DVA591214:05
ubottuDVA5912: Ubuntu version numbers are: YY.MM (YY=release year,MM=release month). Each year sees two releases, so just specifying YY is imprecise. See also https://www.ubuntu.com/about/release-cycle14:05
DVA591220.04..14:06
tomreynubuntu 20.04 LTS, like some of the earlier releases, runs a weekly fstrim job14:06
Sven_vByou can check with "systemctl status fstrim.service", more info in "man fstrim"14:07
tomreynyou may want to consider (not) using the discard mount option for file systems not supporting fstrim (but this option)14:07
tomreyne.g. fstrim does not support FAT file systems, but discard is supposedly supported there.14:08
tomreynon the other hand, it doesn't seem to work on my ESP14:09
DVA5912tomreyn, your right it was setup from the get go. Sven_vB thanks for the command to confirm!14:10
Sven_vBDo I understand correctly that the performance benefit of weekly TRIMming is just about doing cleanup in advance, when the disk is considered idle? does it mean when I disable weekly TRIMming, the slowdown will be only becuase each sector to be written will have to finally do the TRIM that I could have done in advance?14:15
rattlebattle79hi14:42
lotuspsychjewelcome rattlebattle7914:42
sm03lebr00tHey guys :P Anybody here has recommendations for a cool, clean and stunnin wallpaper. Just share the link :P Thanks14:48
lotuspsychje!discuss | sm03lebr00t14:48
ubottusm03lebr00t: Want to talk about Ubuntu, but don't have a support question? /join #ubuntu-discuss for non-support Ubuntu discussion, or try #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat. Thanks!14:48
oerheksgnomelook.org is a start14:48
pavlosoerheks: are you able to open that site? mine is blank15:18
oerheksoops, the desh -15:19
oerhekshttps://www.gnome-look.org/15:19
oerheksgood spot, pavlos15:19
oerheksgnome-without-look15:20
pavlosoerheks: thx15:20
monojamoon|Hi guys, is \EFI\Ubuntu\grubx64.efi the correct path to the Ubuntu grub menu?15:21
oerheksubuntu without capital U, \EFI\ubuntu\shimx64.efi15:26
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monojamoon|Ok... Thanks :)15:26
oerhekserr \EFI\ubuntu\grubx64.efi15:27
monojamoon|:)15:27
monojamoon|Yeah! I altered that.15:27
monojamoon|shimx is for secure boot, is it?15:27
oerheksyes, i think so15:29
oerheks!uefi15:29
ubottuUEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware. It is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI15:29
monojamoon|Can we access and alter the boot order from inside Ubuntu?15:29
oerheksonly from grub215:30
oerheksnot your bios menu15:30
monojamoon|I tried doing so through efibootmgr but the changes  don't stick15:30
quadrathoch2monojamoon| can you give us the output and what you want to edit?15:33
tomreynSven_vB: when you do an fsTRIM, this means the OS informs the disk (firmware) that a given physical block (there are no 'sectors' on SSDs/NVMEs) is not in use and it can do whatever with it, even though it's still part of partitioned space. often, the firmware will use this information to carry out some wear levelling or other optimization involving this block (but that's both outside of the OS' control as well as understanding, it doesn't even15:39
tomreynlearn about it). if you disable weekly fstrim, then *no* trimming takes place for file systems unless you'd trigger it manually, and unless you have the 'discard' mount option set for file systems supporting it.15:39
Sven_vBexactly, thus I'm trying to understand what kinds of performance degredation may occur and why.15:42
Sven_vBmy guess is that the SSD will figure out the next time the OS tries to write a physical block, it implies the old content is no longer important and it can thus do whatever as if that physical block would have ben TRIMmed earlier.15:43
tomreynin my experience, ssd's which can't do those optimizations for lack of TRIM information, IF the full capacity is partitioned, will grow slower over time.15:44
Sven_vBand this cleanup may then block the write operation a bit longer if the SSD doesn't readily have another free block available15:44
Sven_vBslower only in write acces, right?15:44
tomreynyes, primarily on writes, not sure about reads15:45
tomreynthe ssd does not understand file systems, so no, it won't be able to determine which block is marked as 'deleted' on a file system. that's why there is fstrim.15:46
Sven_vBwill Ubuntu write partial physical blocks? because if it writes full physical blocks, the SSD should be able to figure the old content of the block is no longer needed.15:47
Sven_vBactually if I understand the technology correctly, the SSD would have to transparently translate a partial block write into a full block write.15:48
tomreynthe SSD has no concept of "old/new content of block". also, deleting a file, on most file systems, won't even cause any data to be changed at the location where said data is stored.15:49
Sven_vByes. I understand that the data of a deleted file will linger. :)15:51
Sven_vBI'm trying to understand the performance impact of not TRIMming on the block device level. maybe without a file system even, just dumping an ordered list of datasets that happen to each be one mibibyte in size and I access them by dataset number * 1 MB = byte offset.15:54
Sven_vBoh the problem will probably be that the SSD could do the TRIMming only for that one block each time for each block write request, and thus would be as slow as the TRIM on old 14.04 trusty.15:57
Sven_vBluckily I often have some unused partitions that I could TRIM entirely. can I do that directly of would I have to format them as sth. like ext4 first?16:00
Sven_vB*or16:00
* Sven_vB asks his search engine first.16:01
Sven_vBlooks like that use case is too exotic.16:02
Sven_vBah blkdiscard16:02
Sven_vBlet's try if it can do partitions as well as entire disks. :)16:05
tomreynjust deleting partitions which aren't needed should be sufficient.16:05
Sven_vB"deleting" as in removing their entry from the GUID Partition Table? I hope my SSD won't magically guess that implies an intent to lose the data on the disk area.16:07
Sven_vBImplementing such "helpful" guessing in the kernel would be a really evil prank though. :>16:10
tomreynyes, removing a partition off the partition table let's SSDs which are able to interpret the partition table (and my *very limited* understanding is that most are nowadays) do whatever they want with the unpartitioned areas.16:10
Sven_vBeww16:11
Sven_vBthanks for the warning then.16:11
Sven_vBin case anyone else is interested, "blkdiscard /dev/disk/by-partlabel/test" made it become all-zero almost instantly while all other partitions on the test computer seem to have survived.16:18
MR-D05how can i do the equivalent of "systemctl daemon-reload" with the service command16:18
dw1getting a strange error on dist-upgrade for kernels https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/WN8pgRmxCM/16:18
dw120.04.1 LTS upgraded from 18.0416:19
dw1will i be able to boot16:19
Sven_vBMR-D05, service xinetd reload?16:19
MR-D05xinetd: unrecognized service16:20
Sven_vBMR-D05, which service do you want to reload its config?16:20
MR-D05Sven_vB i added a service to /etc/systemd/system so i want to reload systemd16:21
Sven_vBMR-D05, ooh I see the original command reloads systemd's config16:21
Sven_vBMR-D05, well, you could try service systemd reload16:21
MR-D05systemd: unrecognized service16:21
Nemo9MR-D05: try just rebooting i had same problem i think rebooting fixed it16:23
Sven_vBMR-D05, why are you limited to the ancient method anyway?16:23
MR-D05im running a docker container16:23
MR-D05can i just install systemctl somehow?16:24
tomreyndw1: you should uninstall those outdated, unsupported kernels (and respective initrd's)16:24
MR-D05oh i guess i can16:24
Sven_vBMR-D05, indeed you can. if you don't have systemd installed, that's the reason why you can't reload it. :D but systemd in docker sounds like there may be easier ways to achieve whatever you're really trying to do.16:24
dw1tomreyn: oh, yeah, they do seem to be real old16:25
dw1good idea16:25
tomreyndw1: when that's done, run   sudo update-initramfs -k all -u16:26
dw1k16:28
johnsmith92Hello! My home folders (Documents, Images...) are bind mounts to another partition. When I use snaps I can't access those folders because I get a "Permission Denied" error, any idea on how to fix this?16:29
Sven_vBin focal, I'd like to use virtual terminal 9 for talking to /dev/ttyUSB0, do I have to spawn a user session with a minicom there, or can I somehow directly link them?16:30
johnsmith92However, I can navigate correctly to the real path of the mounted partition, its just that I can't use the bind mount on my home folder16:30
oerheksthe old ways used to be install snap with the --classic option, check softwarecenter > installed > snapname > permissions16:30
johnsmith92It has access to the home folders, but it can't access those bind mounts16:31
Sven_vBjohnsmith92, can other user (e.g. user "nobody") access those bind mounts?16:31
oerheksoh oke, i read about that earlier, no solution IIRC16:31
oerheksnfs mount16:31
johnsmith92This is the message I am getting on the syslog:16:32
johnsmith92Aug  2 18:32:12 ubu kernel: [ 1584.313836] audit: type=1400 audit(1596385932.169:28798): apparmor="DENIED" operation="open" profile="snap.audacity.audacity" name=2F686F6D652F77656C636975732F496DC3A167656E65732F pid=5758 comm="pool" requested_mask="r" denied_mask="r" fsuid=1000 ouid=016:32
johnsmith92No solution at the moment? why's that?16:33
oerheksjohnsmith92, wait, see " --devmode flag"16:33
oerhekslast post https://forum.audacityteam.org/viewtopic.php?t=10579716:34
johnsmith92Yes but that's like bypassing all restrictions16:34
johnsmith92It happens with every snap not just audacity, just as an example16:34
oerheksyes, ugly.16:34
johnsmith92Maybe it's because I make those bind mounts of /etc/fstab=16:35
johnsmith92?16:35
johnsmith92*on16:35
oerheksno, that is fine16:35
Sven_vBalso could someone please update https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialConsoleHowto to explain if/why not you can talk to the serial line using a virtual terminal directly, instead of a "client" program running inside a local terminal?16:35
johnsmith92so what's the real problem here? just to know why is happening16:35
oerhekssnap confinement, by design16:36
johnsmith92Damn... I just wanted to share the same Documents, Images, Music folders between Ubuntu and Windows16:38
johnsmith92looks like it's going to be hard16:38
Deano59what's the channel for ubuntu-arm?16:42
johnsmith92thanks for the help16:42
DJones!arm | Deano5916:42
ubottuDeano59: ARM is a specific (RISC) processor architecture used in a variety of applications such as handhelds and networkdevices. For more information see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM . For ARM specific support, stop by the #ubuntu-arm channel.16:42
Deano59DJones: thanks, I'm there already. :)16:44
cesarnfohi drone16:54
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cesarnfotooth-ache :: a.benzocaina  b. dexaibuprofeno  c. amoxicilina  d.x17:04
oerheks!ot17:04
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!17:04
cesarnfonot at all17:04
dw1after upgrade from 18.04 to 20.04 the screen never went blank or locked automatically even though it was set in settings, and now settings/gnome-control-center doesnt load at all but segfaults after a period of 100% cpu.. strace https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/jnKqSwKGhD/17:05
oerheksdo you have an ubuntu support issue, cesarnfo ?17:05
cesarnfosort ubuntu QsQs....17:07
cesarnfoload ubuntu FAQ17:07
oerheksdw1, try to rename/remove ~/.cache/gnome-control-center and try again?17:08
oerheksit should be recreated with basic values17:08
cesarnfominified17:08
oerhekscesarnfo, please don fill this channel with noise, thanks17:09
cesarnfochonps +[]17:09
PinchiukasIs there a way to prevent the dialog that happens when installing grub-pc? It send my script (that's running "apt-get install -y grub-pc") into some crazy loop.17:12
cesarnfoassert a dd do file17:12
zethiusTimeshift backups don't work on Ubuntu. They work on all other distros but Ubuntu. Why?17:12
cesarnfopre coz coz and post coz try k17:14
JoeLlamaSpaceX Splashdown Streaming Now: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFG2tDvfHKA17:14
oerhekswrong channel JoeLlama17:14
cesarnfoa k update17:14
cesarnfoelse like seahorse17:15
oerheksJoeLlama, #ubuntu-offtopic is full of spacejunk enthusiastics17:15
cesarnfosain ñuki17:15
oerheksthat is where you should go too, cesarnfo17:16
oerheks!ot > cesarnfo17:16
ubottucesarnfo, please see my private message17:16
dw1oerheks: removed the cache folder and ran gnome-control-center from terminal, first 2 times it said "Failed to register: Timeout was reached", third time it said "Failed to register: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Message recipient disconnected from message bus without replying" and said this in log https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/zQDVh6JxB6/17:17
dw1freshly rebooted before this17:18
dw1and now its doing the 100% cpu and wait for a few mins thing17:19
* dw1 waits for segfault17:19
cesarnfoedc github17:19
dw1segfault and similar to pastebin in logs17:20
dw1libgobject17:20
oerheksodd, never seen this17:25
dw1yeah, its ucks17:26
dw1it sucks*17:26
dw1hmm17:26
oerheksdpkg configure -a, apt install -f ..17:27
oerheksreinstall ubuntu-desktop..17:27
oerheks( as command, not from iso)17:28
cesarnfogobject{0-3} rubio step17:28
cesarnfotranslate it to english like what, like dot stream pos 8x6 far top unicode17:30
cesarnfowe have to deal (we) w/ english like stick 4 ubuntu17:34
cesarnfolist symbols take a look bross17:38
cesarnfoirc sucks, like what, like mic phot gps pocket stuff17:40
cesarnfosain -117:41
dw1everything's upgraded, no apt stuff to do17:41
dw1reinstall didnt do anything17:41
dw1oh well who needs settings anyway17:41
dw1maybe it'll fix itself in a few updates17:41
manu27993Hi Guys.. I'm running a fresh installation of Ubuntu 20.04 on my Asus S551LB laptop. The built-in mic on this laptop is not working. Need help in making it work.17:43
lotuspsychjemanu27993: is your system up to date?17:44
manu27993Yes. Just ran an update just now.17:44
lotuspsychjemanu27993: what graphics card chipset do you have?17:44
manu27993Nvidia 740M using 440 proprietary drivers17:45
lotuspsychjemanu27993: could you try to switch to the 435 driver please and reboot, see if it influences?17:45
manu27993can it affect inbuilt mic performance?17:46
lotuspsychjemanu27993: well performance no, but it can influence sound issues yeah we have several user reports with sound on the 44017:47
lotuspsychjemanu27993: if you switched reboot and checked, and its not this problem, ask again, other volunteers will help you for something else17:48
manu27993Ok. I have now selected 435 driver from additional drivers tab.. It is applying changes.17:48
cesarnforeported dead drive can u re alive it ?17:50
lotuspsychjecesarnfo: try photorec, if it cant rescue data anymore, its dead17:51
cesarnfothe needle doesnt go17:52
cesarnfois a hhd 2.5'' sata drive needle hte obstacle17:53
cesarnfoi removed17:54
cesarnfoleft a source down printed in disc17:54
cesarnfoand this is what i know17:54
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lotuspsychjecesarnfo: ok thats enough, please focus on ubuntu issues tnx18:06
cesarnfolotuspsychje  am speeching bout stick things, also english yes18:10
manu27993lotuspsychje: Hi... I tried rebooting after installing 435 nvidia proprietary driver. Now it is not reaching the login screen. It shows a black screen with a blinking cursor.18:10
lotuspsychjemanu27993: do you have secureboot enabled?18:10
manu27993Yes18:10
lotuspsychjemanu27993: please disable and reboot18:11
manu27993Ok18:11
lotuspsychjegood luck!18:11
cesarnfo4 500 kernel specs u going to use a yes prog / app18:11
lotuspsychjecesarnfo: stop please18:11
cesarnfostick18:11
manu27993lotuspsychje: its still the same18:16
manu27993Hi guys.. I'm running a fresh installation of ubuntu 20.04 on my ASUS S551LB laptop. The internal mic of my setup is not working. Need help in making it work.18:36
Sven_vBmanu27993, does the BIOS-like config utility have an option to enable/disable the mic?19:12
Sven_vBany NetworkManager supporters here? I'm trying to debug wifi on a notebook with focal. I'd like to compare the internal wifi antenna with a USB wifi antenna. to do that I logged into a serial line (ttyUSB0) and "rfkill block"ed the internal antenna. now rfkill reports: there are no hard blocks, all BT and the internal wifi are soft blocked, the USB antenna fully unblocked. however, nmcli "device shows" both antennae as "unavailable" and19:12
Sven_vB"nmcli radio wifi" shows "disabled". when I run "sudo nmcli radio wifi on" that unblocks the internal antenna in rfkill. when I rfkill block the internal antenna, "nmcli radio wifi" goes back to disabled. is there a way to convince NM that antennae can operate independently?19:12
manu27993Sven_vB: no.. it does not19:12
Sven_vB*"nmcli device" shows19:13
Sven_vBI know the workaround of unloading some kernel modules if the antennae use different drivers, but I'd prefer a way that can enable/disable multiple wifi antennae of the same kind independently.19:14
Sven_vBI see there's a ticket about it on https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/NetworkManager/NetworkManager/-/issues/76 but it looks pretty dead. :(19:18
Sven_vBI'll try systemd-networkd19:21
cad_encHey all, having a weird issue, not sure how to debug: I have a machine (using xfce/lightdm) that's failing to display anything but a cursor until I drop to a TTY and hop back19:28
cad_encAny idea where I should start looking first?19:28
cad_encI should mention, I checked systemctl status lightdm, and didn't see anything interesting19:29
ioriacad_enc, i'd suggest to debug it with a fresh user19:32
Sven_vBcad_enc, I'd take a screenshot from CLI, to compare what is visible and what the system thinks is visible.19:37
Sven_vBcad_enc, also check what xrandr thinks your screen size and position is.19:37
Sven_vBcad_enc, the ubuntu version is also important, as xrandr in xenial has a bug that translates the screen position but not the cursor. on one of my machines this means the cursor is always displayed 512px left of where applications consider it to be and where a click would happen.19:39
FaTaL_GHere goes what I suspect is a super opinionated question, but I'm really interested in suggestions. What is a solid remote desktop/vnc/xwin/xtunnel type of application to use on ubuntu 20.0421:11
compdocx2go21:12
FaTaL_Gonly doing it in the home lan btw21:13
compdocbut requires a 2D desktop, as they all do21:13
FaTaL_GI typically don't even start x, but I do from time to time. I dont have kde gnome etc21:15
FaTaL_Gsome things are pretty easy via desktop and far harder with cli21:15
FaTaL_Gthank you!!!21:15
oerheksVino is build-in ..21:17
Nemo9i have a problem21:26
soft_concreteDoes anyone see a problem in this short config file? https://hastebin.com/ukujujotof.conf I'm trying to make some new synclient settings persistent. I have it working another way, but I thought I'd try and do it the "proper" way with a .conf file21:54
soft_concreteI believe this file would go in /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/21:55
soft_concreteBe right back21:57
portdusing `snap` but how do I add Apt packages in Ubuntu Core?22:05
Bashing-omportd: "Apt packages" >> Run a variant of ' sudo apt install <package> ' .22:08
portd"Ubuntu Core 18" doesn't have `apt`22:10
portdit's Ubuntu on older amd64 (x86_64)22:10
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Bashing-omportd: I also run a core install of (x)buntu 18.04 on old dual core Atlon .. and I assure you that the package manager is present.22:12
portdhi, leaftype22:13
portdBashing-om, let me have a look-see22:14
Bashing-omportd: See in terminal ' dpkg -l apt ' .22:14
portdi found `dpkg-deb` which can install a local copy of the package.22:16
portdworst case, I just have to get through a repository.22:17
portdthanks, Bashy22:17
portd;)22:17
Bashing-omportd: What apt package are you wanting to install ? - our software repo is the 1st choice for packages.22:18
portdI'm tasked with installing Apache Spark22:20
portdFrom #Ubuntu, I wanted to find a way to bootstrap-install something like GCC or clang.22:20
Bashing-omportd: Bot familiar with "Apache Spark22:21
portdI don't have GCC on my machine. so I was looking for a way to access a compiler on the system.22:21
Bashing-omportd: " - but Apache is a part of LAMP.22:21
Bashing-om!lamp22:21
ubottuLAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process.22:21
portdokay I'll do that22:22
portd!thanks22:23
ubottuYou're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)22:23
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glickmod?\22:35
glickmod22:35
glickis there a moderator in here?22:35
oerheksglick, sure.22:37
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leftyfbglick: This is a support channel for Ubuntu. What is your support question?22:41
portdhow do I transfer install Ubuntu Live into my disk?22:44
leftyfbportd: you don't. You install Ubuntu on your disk using the installer22:44
portdatm, I `dd` usb to drive.22:45
portdand hope for the best22:45
leftyfbportd: here's a tutorial on how to install Ubuntu: https://ubuntu.com/tutorials/install-ubuntu-desktop22:45
portdleftyfb, okay. do you know the name of the installer? my system doesn't have Apt or dpkg.22:46
portdbut I can install a package at a time, collecting the packages locally.22:46
leftyfbportd: why are you using Ubuntu core?22:46
Bashing-omportd: NO - for ease - Boot the USB drive and choose "erase disk and install ubuntu" ONLY if jappy to loose all that is present on the hard drive.22:46
Bashing-omhappy*22:47
leftyfbportd: here is the documentation for Ubuntu core. Further support should be asked in #snappy22:47
leftyfbportd: https://core.docs.ubuntu.com/en/22:47
JaydenWhy doesn't ubuntu come with the latest linux kernel22:47
leftyfb!latest | Jayden22:47
ubottuJayden: Packages in Ubuntu may not be the latest. Ubuntu aims for stability, so "latest" may not be a good idea. Post-release updates are only considered if they are fixes for security vulnerabilities, high impact bug fixes, or unintrusive bug fixes with substantial benefit. See also !backports, !sru, and !ppa.22:47
* portd understood22:47
JaydenI'm excited for Ubuntu 20.10 that releases in october22:48
portd!nice22:49
ubottu'Nice' is a property of a process that determines how willing it is to give CPU time to other processes.  A higher value makes it more likely to give away time.  A negative value makes it less likely. Values are from -19 to 19, with 0 being the default.  For more information, type 'man nice' at a terminal.22:49
leftyfb!support | Jayden22:49
ubottuJayden: The official ubuntu support channel is #ubuntu. Also see http://ubuntu.com/support and http://ubuntuforums.org and http://askubuntu.com22:49
leftyfbJayden: this is a support channel. If you're interested in chatting, feel free to join #ubuntu-offtopic22:49
Jaydenok thanks22:49
Bashing-omportd: Sorry me was out in left field somewhere with "core".22:49
Jayden!help22:50
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience22:50
FaTaL_GThis is driving me absolutely bonkers.... I upgraded from 18.04 to 20.04, and I'm having the issue (*again*) with my internet facing dns failing.... I'm not even sure what to look at to fix it permanently. If I "ifdown" "ifup" it fixes it22:57
FaTaL_Gactually, its not just dns... its like the connection on the adapter dies22:58
FaTaL_GI had the same issue from 16.04 to 18.04, and I never figured out why it stopped/fixed itself, but it wasnt me who fixed it as far as I know22:59
FaTaL_Gno I do not use netmanager22:59
FaTaL_Gsimple interfaces22:59
Sven_vBI tried configuring my wifi on Ubuntu focal using netplan. In the generated systemd network file, there are only IPv4 addresses. however, on the interface, there's only an IPv6 address: https://paste.debian.net/plainh/27b2d9b1 what went wrong?23:02
Sven_vBI'll go ask #netplan23:07
portdFaTaL_G, to use `ifmetric`23:13
FaTaL_Gwhat is that?23:13
portdmeasures your net, or something.23:14
portdyou want to set the priority of each network during redirection.23:14
portd!ifmetric23:15
FaTaL_Gthats not going to be realated to this issue, eno1 is the only interfae internet facing23:17
FaTaL_Gthe rest are on br0, and when the issue happens, I can continue to LAN fine23:17
* portd defeated23:17
FaTaL_Gsorry23:18
FaTaL_GI appreciate trying!!!!23:18
FaTaL_Gthe box "is my router"23:18
FaTaL_Gand connects to fios23:18
FaTaL_GI'm kinda wondering if its hardware related23:19
FaTaL_Gthe guru's here have sung me the horros of brcmfmac drivers for the wifi hostapd setup I was using, so Im not even using it at this point23:20
FaTaL_GI was hoping 20.04 would support it better but thats looking like a no :/23:21
lotuspsychjeFaTaL_G: please easy on the enter button23:23
lotuspsychjeFaTaL_G: ask your question, then patient wait until volunteers can help you23:23
portd#Ubuntu, how do I select a skeleton of the root system? Similar to OpenBSD or Arch systems.23:56
portdI intend to `chroot` into a shallow container of my current system.23:57
portdOr else I'll be using docker systems and managing where everything is downloaded.23:58
portddittos to using multipass.23:58

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