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RAOFmwhudson: Yeah, symbols files for C++ projects that don't actively curate their exported symbols is a recipe for frustration.00:51
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seb128rbalint_, hey, is there any chance you could have a look at why systemd autopkgtests don't like the new plymouth?09:19
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rbalintseb128, it is on my TODO list09:35
seb128rbalint, great, I would have poked at it but I'm not familiar enough with the systemd package to know how to  just run that specific test easily09:42
seb128plymouth didn't change much so it's a bit weird :/09:42
mwhudson*** Test killed: ran too long (1h31m0s).09:50
mwhudsonFAILruntime/pprof5465.034s09:50
mwhudsonum09:50
juliankI uploaded a new apt with http changes, please watch out for hanging builds10:29
juliank(once it is published in proposed :D)10:30
juliankor autopkgtests for that matter10:31
niubo/ question: has python-raven been replaced by python3-sentry-sdk in ubuntu focal?11:12
Laneyjuliank: can you fix this at some point https://people.canonical.com/~laney/weird-things/whitespace.png ? at least I assume it's whitespace :D11:22
juliankLaney: seems like meh11:22
juliankLaney: this is progress output with \r and stuff11:22
Trevinhosil2100: hey, could you please accept the mutter SRU for focal? It contains a further fix fixing a regression in the SRU currently under verification11:34
Laneyoh good, you can chain transactions in aptdaemon12:16
* Laney hopes this works12:16
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Laneyhmm14:21
Laneyhow to show progress of the chain though, looks like you have to handle those separately14:21
Laneyjuliank: ^- right?14:21
juliankI don't know, I just barely keep aptdaemon working14:22
juliankUm, passing it's Testsuite on one arch14:22
Laneyok, I thought you knew it14:23
juliankThe answer I assume is yes14:23
juliankBut also why use aptdaemon?14:23
Laneyupdate-manager14:23
juliankWhat's it for?14:23
juliankI sed14:23
julianksee14:24
Laneyyou want me to first port it to packagekit? :p14:24
juliankI gotta add another upgrade mode to package kit for that14:24
juliankBut hughsie does not want it14:24
Laneyhmm14:24
LaneyI don't remember if you can have chained PkTransactions either14:25
Laneyi.e. if doing that would even help14:25
Laneynot that there's any chance I will do that :-)14:25
* Laney wibbles14:27
Laneywhat to do what to do14:27
sil2100Trevinho: I can take a look at it today finally14:54
Trevinhosil2100: thanks14:54
sil2100Trevinho: btw. which reminds me: the bionic mutter SRU FTBFS on all arches from what I see14:54
Trevinhomhmhm weird14:55
niubfwiw https://github.com/getsentry/raven-python/blob/master/README.rst#L36 states python-raven has been phased out for Sentry-Python14:55
Trevinhonot sure what changed, let me see14:56
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oSoMoNwhat's the process to request a package be removed from the archive? file a bug (is there a template), or just ping a friendly AA ?16:52
cjwatsonoSoMoN: file a bug with rationale, subscribe ~ubuntu-archive.  I don't think there's a template16:57
oSoMoNok, thanks16:58
oSoMoNdone: bug #189031917:05
ubottubug 1890319 in tinyjsd (Ubuntu) "Please remove tinyjsd from the archive" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189031917:05
vorlonahasenack: hi, so yes, trusty queues get zero attention from the standard SRU process - pings required :)18:44
ahasenackvorlon: @archive-admins pings?18:44
vorlonahasenack: sru team pings really.  anyway, looking no18:44
vorlonw18:44
ahasenackI pinged one, but he said he had no idea how to process trusty srus18:45
vorlonahasenack: and where is this SRU supposed to go?  Is it going to go in the security pocket in trusty?18:45
ahasenackI don't know, I assumed updates18:46
vorlonahasenack: in which case the package you need in order to ensure esm updates are automatically installed by default, will not be automatically installed by default18:46
ahasenackwell, it's definitely not going into esm18:46
ahasenackbecause of what you said18:46
vorlonoh wait this is update-notifier, not unattended-upgrades18:46
ahasenackright18:46
sergiodjhi there.  since we're talking about "pings required", I'd like someone to take a look at https://code.launchpad.net/~sergiodj/britney/hints-ubuntu-xenial/+merge/388495 , please :)18:47
vorlonahasenack: I actually think this should go to esm instead18:47
sergiodjI wasn't sure if I should subscribe someone else directly as a reviewer.  I just subscribed the SRU team because that's what I saw other MPs doing18:47
vorlonbecause it's cosmetic, and only impacts the motd output aiui18:48
ahasenackvorlon: but that output is an incentive to enable esm18:48
ahasenackthat's why I thought it should go into updates, so people without esm get that18:48
ahasenackand can see what esm would give18:48
vorlonahasenack: but this only matters for the newer version of ubuntu-advantage-tools, which wasn't published when trusty standard support ended... if users were running trusty unsupported from april 2019 to january 2020 without enabling esm, does it matter now?18:50
ahasenackvorlon: who know, it might convince some reluctant users to enable esm? Once they start seeing the security updates they are missing?18:52
ahasenacks/know/knows/18:52
vorlonahasenack: I'm afraid I still don't think we should do this in trusty-updates and would like to see it go to esm instead19:09
ahasenackvorlon: that's fine, do I need to change anything in the packaging?19:10
vorlonahasenack: I don't believe so, you just need to work with the security team to get it uploaded to the right place19:11
ahasenackcan they fetch it from wherever it is now?19:11
vorlonahasenack: technically, yes :)19:12
ahasenackthe "limbo"19:12
ahasenackhttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/trusty/+queue?queue_state=4&queue_text=update-notifier right19:14
vorlonyep19:18
ahasenackok, thanks, I pinged them19:20

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