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[14:30] <cpaelzer> Hi
[14:31] <sarnold> good morning
[14:31] <cpaelzer> #startmeeting Weekly Main Inclusion Requests status
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[14:31] <cpaelzer> ping for doko didrocks sarnold ddstreet jamespage
[14:32] <cpaelzer> #topic Review of previous action items
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[14:32] <cpaelzer> we had no open action items
[14:32] <cpaelzer> more interesting for when peopel show up will be the bug lists and component mismatches
[14:32] <cpaelzer> so let me link the latter and wait until MIR members respond here
[14:32] <cpaelzer> #topic current component mismatches
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[14:32] <cpaelzer> #link https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches-proposed.svg
[14:32] <cpaelzer> #link https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches.svg
[14:33] <cpaelzer> what do we see excluding the usual suspects and known cases
[14:33] <sarnold> python-invoke? is that new?
[14:34] <sarnold> same with lzip?
[14:34] <cpaelzer> yes I think so
[14:34] <ddstreet> o/
[14:34] <cpaelzer> lintian "things" usually where with foundations the last few times - doko is that still the case?
[14:35] <doko> yes
[14:35] <cpaelzer> ok
[14:35] <cpaelzer> then let us check paramiko and what has put it in main
[14:36] <doko> but every lintian upload seems to include new dependencies these days :-(
[14:36] <cpaelzer> jamespage: I think that is for openstack - I see ironic, manila, cinder and such
[14:36] <cpaelzer> jamespage: do you add this to your already long list to take a look if you want to MIR or modify it?
[14:36] <doko> python-invoke, openstack
[14:37] <cpaelzer> yep I found the same (see above) just wanted jamespage to ack looking for it
[14:38] <cpaelzer> doko: opencl is that something you know about fromt he toolchain POV
[14:38] <cpaelzer> as we wondered about ocl-icd -> khronis-... last week
[14:38] <cpaelzer> I mean the latter has an approved MIR from the past
[14:39] <cpaelzer> the question is re-promote it or do we want to not do this for soem reason?
[14:39] <cpaelzer> lad MIR is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/khronos-opencl-clhpp/+bug/1636728
[14:39] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1636728 in khronos-opencl-clhpp (Ubuntu) "[MIR] khronos-opencl-clhpp" [Undecided,Fix released]
[14:41] <doko> stayed out a long time outside main, doesn't have a package provider anymore
[14:41] <sarnold> what's a package provider?
[14:41] <doko> kernel team? or tjaltoonen for the X stack?
[14:42] <cpaelzer> sarnold: I guess doko meant a subscriber who takes care for it
[14:43] <doko> oops, yes
[14:44] <cpaelzer> doko: let me state that it needs a subscriber again on the bug (lter) and go on here
[14:44] <cpaelzer> doko: I have checked fonts-material-design-icons-iconfont
[14:44] <cpaelzer> it really is one of those font cases which don't need the full MIR process
[14:44] <sarnold> cpaelzer: aha, thanks :)
[14:45] <cpaelzer> doko: could you later on just promote it under the terms of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MainInclusionProcess?action=show&redirect=MIRTeam#Font_Packages ?
[14:46] <cpaelzer> you'll let me know later doko - as well as jamed page about paramiko - going on with the topics
[14:46] <cpaelzer> #topic New MIRs
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[14:46] <cpaelzer> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/?field.searchtext=&orderby=-date_last_updated&field.status%3Alist=NEW&assignee_option=none&field.assignee=&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir
[14:46] <cpaelzer> there is some movement here
[14:46] <cpaelzer> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tlp/+bug/1888656
[14:47] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1888656 in OEM Priority Project "[MIR] tlp" [Critical,New]
[14:47] <cpaelzer> was set to NEW and is supposed to be reviewed, I think I haven't taken one in a while and will take this one
[14:47] <cpaelzer> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvme-cli/+bug/1889688
[14:47] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1889688 in nvme-cli (Ubuntu) "[MIR] nvme-cli" [Undecided,New]
[14:47] <ddstreet> i can take the nvme-cli one
[14:47] <cpaelzer> this is a foundations case it seems, waits for xnox to comment as asked by vorlon
[14:48] <cpaelzer> ddstreet: thanks, but if it is complex you might hold back until xnox/vorlon have settled if they really want it supported
[14:48] <ddstreet> sure i'll let them settle before i start the review
[14:48] <cpaelzer> thanks, I've assigned you
[14:48] <cpaelzer> the next is a tripled for mdevctl
[14:48] <cpaelzer> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libonig/+bug/1889248
[14:48] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1889248 in mdevctl (Ubuntu) "[MIR] mdevctl, jq, libonig" [Undecided,New]
[14:49] <cpaelzer> this is driven by me and I can take jq and libonig
[14:49] <cpaelzer> but mdevctl I'm the Debian and Ubuntu Maintainer as well as the MIR requester - it seems wrong to check that myself
[14:49] <cpaelzer> needs another pair of eyes
[14:49] <cpaelzer> anyone up to mdevtl MIR review?
[14:51] <doko> cpaelzer: promote without a subscriber?
[14:52] <cpaelzer> doko: the fonts package you mean
[14:52] <cpaelzer> ?
[14:52] <doko> yes
[14:52] <doko> I'll look at mdevctl
[14:53] <cpaelzer> thanks for mdevctl
[14:53] <cpaelzer> I'll assign you so we know
[14:53] <cpaelzer> well when steve told us that fonts packages should not require the full process that did not come up yet
[14:53] <cpaelzer> but you are right someone has to look after it
[14:53] <cpaelzer> :-/
[14:54] <cpaelzer> I guess we need to ping whoever owns the package depending on it
[14:54] <cpaelzer> that would be foundations
[14:54] <cpaelzer> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/freetype
[14:54] <cpaelzer> has https://launchpad.net/~foundations-bugs subscribed
[14:55] <cpaelzer> doko: can you add that subscription and promote - would that work for you?
[14:55] <doko> ok
[14:56] <cpaelzer> and about https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/khronos-opencl-clhpp once more
[14:56] <cpaelzer> in the past https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/khronos-opencl-clhpp/+bug/1636728/comments/5
[14:56] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1636728 in khronos-opencl-clhpp (Ubuntu) "[MIR] khronos-opencl-clhpp" [Undecided,Fix released]
[14:56] <cpaelzer> it was said that "ubuntu-x subscribed to bugs now"
[14:57] <cpaelzer> they still are subscribed according to the package overview
[14:57] <cpaelzer> I'm wondering if that is enough thou
[14:57] <sarnold> is there still an 'ubuntu-x'? that feels a bit like something from before my time
[14:57] <cpaelzer> well it is an old team with a lot of old names in it
[14:58] <cpaelzer> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+members#active
[14:58] <cpaelzer> RBH we should wait until didrocks is back to speak for desktop who would be the natural successor
[14:58] <cpaelzer> that or kernel (given the bug history)
[14:58] <cpaelzer> not resolving that today and going on
[14:59] <cpaelzer> #topic Incomplete bugs / questions
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[14:59] <cpaelzer> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/?field.searchtext=&orderby=-date_last_updated&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir
[14:59] <cpaelzer> nothing new on this list
[14:59] <cpaelzer> \o/
[14:59] <cpaelzer> #topic Any other business?
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[14:59] <ddstreet> i have a q
[14:59] <ddstreet> something i noticed last week, it's the probert package, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/probert/+bug/1830347
[15:00] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1830347 in probert (Ubuntu) "[MIR] probert as dependency of curtin" [Undecided,Fix released]
[15:00] <ddstreet> it seems that the 'probert-network' binary pkg didn't correctly get promoted to main, so now (in f and g) we have 'probert' in main, and it depends on 'probert-network', but probert-netowrk is in universe
[15:01] <ddstreet> i was surprised the mismatches svg didn't show it
[15:02] <doko> doesn't show up in the text mismatches either
[15:02] <cpaelzer> Odd_Bloke: ^^ I think we have talked about this did we ?
[15:02] <ddstreet> it seems to just be an oversight, promoting version 0.17 back in eoan did appear to promote all binaries, but starting in focal at 0.17build1 it seems probert-network stayed in universe
[15:02] <cpaelzer> ddstreet: there is also "probert-storage" which is in main
[15:02] <ddstreet> yep just the -network seems wrong
[15:02] <cpaelzer> $ reverse-depends --release=groovy probert-network
[15:02] <cpaelzer> Reverse-Depends
[15:02] <cpaelzer> * probert
[15:02] <cpaelzer> * subiquitycore
[15:02] <cpaelzer> it definetly should be in main
[15:03] <ddstreet> is there something wrong with the mismatch generation code that it should have caught it?
[15:03] <ddstreet> not a big deal, just was surprising to me
[15:03] <Odd_Bloke> cpaelzer: I don't recall a specific discussion about -network, but I'm vaguely aware of the background of the probert split.
[15:04] <cpaelzer> Odd_Bloke: was there any intention to not have probert-network in main as well?
[15:04] <Odd_Bloke> I can't speak with authority on that, but I agree that I can't see why it wouldn't.  I'll ping Ryan in #curtin.
[15:05] <cpaelzer> ddstreet: doko: also the text version of component mismatches doesn't mention it https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches.html
[15:05] <cpaelzer> I guess we have two things from here
[15:05] <cpaelzer> a) promote it as it should be in and revisit if it is auto-demoted (it shouldn#t but who knows)
[15:05] <cpaelzer> b) wonder and probably debug why the component mismatch script doesn't list it
[15:06] <cpaelzer> I have no cycles left to do the debug anytime soon :-/
[15:06] <cpaelzer> doko could you do (a) for us?
[15:06] <cpaelzer> so we at least can do that part?
[15:06] <cpaelzer> #action - recheck if probert was promoted and not auto-demoted again
[15:06] <meetingology> ACTION: - recheck if probert was promoted and not auto-demoted again
[15:08] <cpaelzer> while waiting for doko to tell us if this is ok to be promoted (groovy + focal)
[15:08] <cpaelzer> I wanted to give a heads up that soon https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ceph-iscsi/+bug/1854362 will be ready as well
[15:08] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1854362 in urwid (Ubuntu) "[MIR] ceph-iscsi, tcmu, python-configshell-fb, python-rtslib-fb, urwid, targetcli-fb" [Undecided,In progress]
[15:08] <cpaelzer> it only misses the seed change to pull it in
[15:08] <cpaelzer> ceph-iscsi itself wiats for seucrity still
[15:08] <cpaelzer> @sarnold I ahve pinged the trello card you have
[15:08] <cpaelzer> but everything els eis ready and a valid use-case withotu ceph-iscsi
[15:09] <cpaelzer> so I expect next week this will show up in component misatches and needs promotions
[15:09] <sarnold> cpaelzer: aha, nice, with all the grub2 issues and fde work I was worried chrisc_coulson might not get back to this for a while... hooray for progress :)
[15:09] <doko> looks like I end up with all action items this week ;p
[15:10] <doko> we can't promote it, if it's in the release pocket. that would need new uploads for -proposed
[15:10] <cpaelzer> nope only the promotions as you are the only AA today, 3 MIR reviews where distributed to others
[15:10] <cpaelzer> doko: can we at least promote it in groovy then?
[15:11] <doko> yes. ddstreet, are you doing the uploads then, if you want to see it promoted?
[15:12] <ddstreet> doko for probert? i can do a no-change rebuild if needed
[15:12] <doko> yes
[15:12] <ddstreet> for f and g, or just g?
[15:13] <ddstreet> since it's in the release pocket for both of them currently
[15:13] <doko> just f
[15:13] <ddstreet> ah ok yep will do, thanks
[15:17] <doko> anything else?
[15:18] <cpaelzer> no I think we are good for today
[15:18] <cpaelzer> thank all of you!
[15:18] <cpaelzer> #endmeeting
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[15:18] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Aug  4 15:18:58 2020 UTC.
[15:18] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2020/ubuntu-meeting.2020-08-04-14.31.moin.txt
[15:19] <ddstreet> bye all, thanks o/
[15:19] <sarnold> thanks cpaelzer, all :)