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* ComputerKid sets down his sword by the door "aw man*14:27
ComputerKid"14:27
ItzSwirlzmeeting time14:57
ComputerKidHello14:57
slyono/15:00
rbalinto/15:00
ItzSwirlzo/15:00
ItzSwirlzso actually fridge says there are two meetings here.. foundations and translations15:01
ItzSwirlz(thinking)15:01
bdmurrayIts actually the foundations meeting15:01
bdmurray#startmeeting Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team15:01
meetingologyMeeting started Thu Aug  6 15:01:43 2020 UTC.  The chair is bdmurray. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.15:01
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rbalintLost in Translation ...15:01
bdmurray#topic Lightning rounds15:01
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bdmurrayecho $(shuf -e vorlon bdmurray xnox tdaitx doko sil2100 rbalint infinity mwhudson juliank waveform slyon)15:02
bdmurraybdmurray sil2100 vorlon tdaitx waveform slyon doko rbalint xnox infinity mwhudson juliank15:02
bdmurraysubmitted RT 127091 re autopkgtest, nova, and Canonistack15:02
bdmurraysponsored oops upload for waveform15:02
bdmurrayinvestigated, tested a fix, and submitted a PR for LP: #188754415:02
ItzSwirlz?15:02
vorlon(skip me for a bit, in another meeting that's running over)15:02
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1887544 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu) "upgrade from 18.04 to 20.04 fails to calculate if python-pyqt5-dbg is installed" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/188754415:02
bdmurrayinvestigated, tested a fix (or two), and uploaded a fix for LP: #188944915:02
bdmurrayuploaded the above fix to the Focal SRU queue15:02
bdmurrayinvestigation into and testing of LP: #188891615:02
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1889449 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu Focal) "18.04 to 20.04.1 upgrade on raspberry pi removes too many kernel meta packages" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/188944915:02
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1888916 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu Groovy) "upgrade from bionic to focal a server with molly-guard moves back sources.list to bionic entries" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/188891615:02
bdmurrayinvestigation into daisy units OOPS'ing with crashes from whoopsie in -security15:02
slyonItzSwirlz: its the foundations meeting15:02
bdmurrayuploaded apport SRU fixing LP: #1861451 and LP: #187205915:03
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1861451 in apport (Ubuntu Bionic) "apport's cloud-init-specific handling tracebacks on minimal cloud images" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/186145115:03
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1872059 in OEM Priority Project "missing hardware/runtime info when reporing linux-firmware bugs via apport" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/187205915:03
bdmurray✔ done15:03
bdmurraytdaitx:15:03
tdaitx* openjdk-8 security update15:03
tdaitx  - packaged 8u265-b01, relased yesterday by security team15:03
tdaitx  - reduced build time test failure retries from 3 to 215:03
tdaitx  - filtered some long running tests to improve autopkgtest and build times for armhf (clientvm, 21h -> 8h), powerpc (zerovm 42h -> 11h), and s390x (zerovm, 11h -> 3h)15:03
tdaitx* jck-1115:03
tdaitx  - update runtime testsuite job to use the know-to-pass tests baseline to detect regressions (while ignoring know failures)15:03
tdaitx  - jtdiff/jtreg 4.2 on bionic wrongly reports a diff for tests that passed, which is totally weird and not expected, does not happen on focal (jtreg 5.0)15:03
tdaitx(done)15:03
slyon- Upgrade testing 18.04 to 20.04.1 on 2nd notebook15:03
slyon- Prepared "Call for testing: iwd" discourse post & testplan15:03
slyon  * used upgraded notebook to test/verify the steps involved15:03
slyon- Reviewed ubuntu-release-upgrader, MP#38851315:03
slyon- Prepared debdiffs for command-not-found (groovy & focal)15:03
slyon  * bug #1875760, needs review/sponsoring15:03
slyon=== Netplan ===15:03
ubottubug 1875760 in command-not-found (Ubuntu Focal) "/usr/lib/cnf-update-db:sqlite3.OperationalError:/usr/lib/cnf-update-db@26:create" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/187576015:03
slyon- User support on AskUbuntu/IRC15:03
slyon- Appended OVS spec for global settings tagging15:03
slyon- Got initial feedback for the NM plugin15:03
slyon  * only the basics were tested, working so far15:03
slyon- Merged IP addr labels, PR#89, bug #1743200, bug #180320315:03
ubottubug 1743200 in nplan (Ubuntu) "No support for interface labels" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/174320015:04
ubottubug 1803203 in netplan.io (Ubuntu) "Support preferred_lft for IPv6 addresses" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180320315:04
slyon- Debugged "OVS broken on first boot" issue15:04
slyon  * integration problem with cloud-init, bug #187034615:04
slyon  * description & discussions in PR#15715:04
slyon- Continued working on Wireguard PR#113 a little15:04
slyon  * Finalized integration test for NM & networkd15:04
slyon(done)15:04
ubottubug 1870346 in cloud-init (Ubuntu) "Wifi configuration" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/187034615:04
bdmurraydoko:15:05
dokowill go last, sorry15:05
bdmurrayI think vorlon already called last. ;-)15:05
bdmurrayrbalint:15:05
vorlonI'm here now, don't have to be last :)15:05
rbalint* verified unattended-upgrades SRU15:05
rbalint* partner work15:05
ItzSwirlzPick one anyone, today's your lucky day15:05
rbalint* poked systemd through migration15:05
rbalint* +1 maintenance15:06
rbalint* uploads via Debian: unattended-upgrades 2.6 & 2.715:06
rbalint* merged 246-2ubuntu1, uploading...15:06
rbalint* testing glibc 2.3215:06
rbalint* prepared glibc SRU for focal15:06
rbalint* bug gardening15:06
rbalint(done)15:06
bdmurray"gardening"?15:06
bdmurraythere must be a better phrase15:06
bdmurrayxnox:15:06
xnoxUploaded better resolved integration across isc-dhcp, ifupdown, resolvconf15:06
xnoxUpload micorcode-initrd source NEW to allow microcode updates with initrd-less boot LP: #189061215:07
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1890612 in Ubuntu "ITP: Please support loading microcode early, whilst otherwise booting without initrd" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189061215:07
xnoxPrepared dual-signed & boothole proof UC20 gadget15:07
xnoxBackport finalrd to xenial and provide a sample core16 build for Devices team to try with customer to help with shutdown issues15:07
xnoxWorked with lukas on systemd vs cloud-init vs netplan.io units15:07
xnoxBoothole retrospective and actions out of that.15:07
xnoxSlacked on proposed migrations / transitions....15:07
xnoxdone15:07
vorlonI'll go15:07
bdmurrayjuliank:15:07
vorlon * short week, was out Tuesday15:07
vorlon * work on the fallout from hole-in-boot (LP: #1889556)15:07
vorlon * +1 maintenance yesterday/today15:07
vorlon * thinking about full-disk encryption in clouds15:07
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1889556 in grub2 (Ubuntu Groovy) "grub-install failure does not fail package upgrade (and does not roll back to matching modules)" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/188955615:07
vorlon(done)15:07
juliank* back from PTO last week15:07
juliank* shim uploaded to groovy  (LP: #1864223)15:07
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1864223 in OEM Priority Project "shim 15+1552672080.a4a1fbe-0ubuntu1 fails to load fwupd" [Critical,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/186422315:07
juliank* apt: investigated doko's debian bug 967044 about rdepends not handling arch qualifiers15:07
ubottuDebian bug 967044 in src:apt "apt/apt-cache rdepends doesn't handle qualifiers" [Normal,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/96704415:07
juliank* apt: various http "fixing"15:07
juliank* grub for groovy (LP: #1831789, LP: #1878541, LP: #1878705, LP: #1882663)15:07
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1831789 in grub2 (Ubuntu Groovy) "Add "dis_ucode_ldr" to linux boot options for Recovery Mode" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/183178915:08
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1878541 in snapd "Grub fails to load kernel from squashfs if mem < 1500mb" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/187854115:08
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1878705 in grub2 (Ubuntu Focal) "Fix multiple initrds support in grub.conf" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/187870515:08
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1882663 in grub2 (Ubuntu Focal) "Specify flavour ordering" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/188266315:08
juliankgrub SRU coming shortly, want to test a bit15:08
juliank(done)15:08
bdmurrayvorlon:15:08
vorlonbdmurray: already snuck mine in above ;)15:08
doko- groovy test rebuild, pinged teams about ftbfs in main15:08
doko- investigated three gcc ICEs, armhf, s390x15:08
doko- GCC/python backports for groovy now ready to start the test rebuild15:08
doko- some MIR work15:08
doko- some merges15:08
doko- Debian now removed the python package as well, so we should be able to sync python2 related stuff again15:08
doko(done)15:08
bdmurrayvorlon: Oh I knew that, I'm totally paying attention.15:09
bdmurrayAny questions on status?15:09
ItzSwirlzfor so far?15:10
ItzSwirlz(what we've been talking about)15:10
bdmurrayokay, moving on15:10
bdmurray#topic Release incoming bugs15:10
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bdmurray#link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-gg-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs15:10
bdmurraybug 1864571 isn't in the foundations section but caught my eye15:11
ubottubug 1864571 in ubuntu-dev-tools (Ubuntu Bionic) "SRU ubuntu-dev-tools" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/186457115:11
bdmurrayThis has been tagged rls-gg-incoming but it's really a regression bug15:12
bdmurrayWe should still card it as its our SRU though15:12
* vorlon nods15:12
bdmurraytags fixed15:13
bdmurraybug 188709815:13
ubottubug 1887098 in what-is-python (Ubuntu) "Installing python-is-python3 should affect pip as well" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/188709815:13
bdmurrayAre we going to do something about this?15:13
ItzSwirlzI think we're fine as long as the Python versios are specific, but what do I know15:13
xnoxItzSwirlz:  hi, this meeting is for ~ubuntu-foundations members only. If you have any topics to bring up, you may do so, at the end of the meeting under AOB.15:15
bdmurrayOkay, let's take this15:20
bdmurrayThe other bug is the dbus desktop one15:20
xnoxit's more than just symlinks15:20
xnoxbut yeah.15:21
bdmurray#link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs15:21
mclemenceauok bdmurray, carded it15:21
bdmurrayI don't see anything new here15:21
xnoxi think all of them were discussed / are in progress no?15:22
xnoxdo we just need to card them all?15:22
bdmurraythere are a couple that were already carded15:22
bdmurrayso I've sorted out there tags15:22
bdmurraytheir15:22
bdmurrayI think we talked about not fixing the irssi15:23
vorlonwell apparently I'm affected15:24
vorlonso I might upload it15:24
bdmurrayokay, but it doesn't seem worth carding15:25
vorlonok15:25
bdmurray#topic Team proposed-migration report15:26
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vorlon[LINK] https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs15:26
vorlonnumbers are going the wrong direction15:26
vorlonplease make sure that if you're taking one of these that you make the time to work on it over the next week15:27
rbalinthow about disabling tests in vim or in all packages on risc? ;-)15:27
vorlonvim is ... stuck with me I guess since no one else wanted it15:27
vorlonso we'll see15:27
vorlonbdmurray: mpfr4?15:28
bdmurrayright15:28
vorlonsounds like doko is taking lintian because it needs some archive promotions to fix the failures15:29
dokook15:29
xnoxwerkzeug is me15:29
* vorlon nods15:29
vorlondbus-python is mine again; I started working on the upload of the package that needed to drop python2 support, but I don't remember where it got to15:30
xnoxbdmurray:  did you work on mercurila pygments?15:30
xnoxi had gpgme1.0 and autodep815:30
bdmurrayxnox: I've recreated it a bit the mercurial tests are flaky15:30
vorlongpgme1.0 was waveform, but he's out this week15:30
bdmurray#topic Team proposed-migration report15:30
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xnoxbdmurray: skip them and reupload?15:31
bdmurraywow15:31
bdmurrayhttps://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=95669715:31
ubottuDebian bug 956697 in src:mercurial "mercurial: flaky autopkgtests" [Normal,Open]15:31
vorlonbdmurray: so should we hint to ignore the tests?15:31
xnoxcool15:31
xnoxvorlon:  i think that's for the best.15:31
rbalinti also have several hints ready to be merged15:31
vorlonhinted mercurial15:32
vorlonxnox: autodep8 yours?15:33
vorlonslyon: you had software-properties last week; you still good to work on it?15:33
vorlon(and get it done this week)15:33
slyonvorlon: yes its on my list15:33
vorlonok15:34
vorlongce-compute-image-packages is mine, I had worked on it but apparently didn't get to the bottom of it15:34
vorlonicu... is the big transition15:34
rbalintvorlon, i guess the deps of gce- are mine15:34
vorlonelfutils is new15:34
vorlonrbalint: ah are these MIRs? Yeah I'll let you have this15:35
rbalintvorlon, do you plan filing all mirs?15:35
vorlonrbalint: pass ;)15:35
slyonvorlon: well actually, last week we decided to leave software-properties with the uploader (tsimonq2), shall I take it anyways?15:35
vorlonslyon: oh ok - yeah leave it with uploader15:35
slyonk15:35
vorlonelfutils vs makedumpfile - xnox do you want this?15:35
rbalintmakedumpfile is flaky and i've filed a hint15:36
xnoxvorlon:  sure.15:36
vorlondpkg.. a couple of flaky tests, but sbuild seems to have regressed on all archs and needs looked at15:36
vorlonslyon: do you want this one?15:36
slyonyes. I take that15:37
vorlonjson-c is also entangled with icu et al15:37
vorlonnew glibc upload with a bunch of tests that need retried / burned down15:37
xnoxvorlon:  slyon: sbuild regression, is actually procenv FTBFS with gcc-10, and i thought there was a bug against that in Debian / upstream. Fix procenv, unbreak sbuild, let stuff migrate.15:37
rbalinti'm on it, filed hints15:37
vorlonrbalint: is this yours to follow up on?15:37
dokomy understanding is that we go directly to glibc 2.32?15:37
vorlonrbalint: ack15:37
rbalintbug would like to get glibc dropped15:37
rbalintbut15:38
vorlon"dropped"?15:38
slyonxnox: thanks I will have a look at that15:38
vorloncmake vs cups15:38
rbalintvorlon, from -proposed, because it is buggy and i'm preparing the next upload15:38
vorlonjuliank: can you take this one?15:38
juliankack15:38
vorlonrbalint: ah, I'll just remove it now then15:38
vorlontdaitx: openjdk-8/armhf blocking cups, is this something you want to look at?15:39
tdaitxvorlon: yeah15:39
dokovorlon: that trigger is bogus15:40
dokostop triggering on all openjdk versions15:41
vorlons390-tools and fwupd-signed are suspicious since they both involve signed binaries15:41
dokoit's *always* run against the default openjdk15:41
vorlondoko: I haven't special-cased anything here15:41
dokoit's in the britney code ...15:41
vorlonImpossible Depends: s390-tools -> libcrypto1.1-udeb/1.1.1f-1ubuntu3/s390x15:41
xnoxhuh?!15:41
vorlonpossibly just a component-mismatch on the udeb, mislabeled15:43
rbalinti carded plymouth/systemd because it is a test bug in systemd15:43
vorlonmpclib3 just depends on mpfr4, already discussed15:45
vorlonplymouth/systemd, I guess is rbalint15:45
vorlondoxygen vs ghostscript: sil2100 could you take?15:45
sil2100Sure!15:47
vorlonutil-linux vs gfs2-utils, I'll take15:47
vorlonand I think we'll stop there15:47
vorlonbdmurray:15:48
bdmurray#topic AOB15:48
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dokohttps://people.canonical.com/~doko/ftbfs-report/test-rebuild-20200728-groovy-groovy.html#foundations-bugs15:48
bdmurrayI'll take whoopsie15:48
slyonI'll take netplan (already prepare a patch for it, needs sponsoring)15:49
sil2100Just assign 5 random packages from the list to me! Or can I pick those?15:49
xnoxdoko:  ok, need to screen them to exclude those without proposed, and then will do a lottery.15:51
bdmurrayAlright15:53
bdmurray#endmeeting15:53
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meetingologyMeeting ended Thu Aug  6 15:53:06 2020 UTC.15:53
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rbalintfor AOB, i'll be out tomorrow15:54
ItzSwirlzHello everyone16:53
ItzSwirlzComm council16:53

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