[00:00] <scythefwd2> I get that it prints the 2nd column and it is using space (or is it tab) as a delimiter.. but the man page isnt giving me a warm and fuzzy on why that prints the column...
[00:08] <leftyfb> scythefwd2: https://www.grymoire.com/Unix/Awk.html  first result on google for "awk"
[00:09] <scythefwd2> if thats the one I looked at.. it didnt cover piping things to it.. so I wasn't sure how it was actually working
[01:01] <danielathome19> Anyone familiar with kde partition manager?
[01:02] <Bashing-om> danielathome19: Ask your real question, please.
[01:04] <danielathome19> My kde partition manager is stuck at 50% while trying to partition my external hard drive. I wanted to combine an empty partition with my main one but it's been sitting at 50% for 3 days now on sfdisk -N /dev/sdd1. Is there any way I can cancel this or shut down my computer or will it brick my partition or possibly even the whole drive?
[01:05] <guiverc> danielathome19, are there any messages in `dmesg` or `journalctl` that provide clues as to problems?
[01:06] <danielathome19> @guiverc currently my computer froze a bit loading another program  so I'm waiting for it to unfreeze, but when I check last I don't believe so
[01:07] <danielathome19> If I just hard shut down my computer is it likely to brick my partition in this process?
[01:08] <guiverc> danielathome19, are you talking SysRq or clean shutdown?, that won't brick your machine - but partitions involved in change could be left in an unknown state...
[01:09] <danielathome19> @guiverc I was talking about holding the power button  on my laptop down and turning it back on from there
[01:10] <guiverc> I wouldn't ever do that (power button) unless every safe way (such as SysRq keys telling kernel to shutdown, reboot etc) didn't work & you had no option.
[01:11] <guiverc> if you've already concluded system is dead (power button your only option) then damage is already done.. but that is the last thing you should do
[01:12] <guiverc> if you're not familiar with SysRq keys, search online for options (wikipedia page is as good as any), REISUB, REISUO etc to safely tell your kernel/system to reboot/off (last B/O of command)
[01:12] <danielathome19> @guiverc until my computer unfreezes I'll have no other options -- nonetheless, am I safe to just close out kde partition manager forcefully?
[01:13] <guiverc> danielathome19, I would avoid it as stated, safely shut it down, is dekstop just frozen?  can you enter comamnds via tty?  does kernel still respond to commands via keyboard?  (ie. GUI just frozen won't impact kernel/tty etc)
[01:15]  * guiverc sorry, I think i'm talking the wrong language 
[01:15] <vater> you got realtime?
[01:15] <vater> how often do you need to recompile ro maintain realtime?
[01:16] <neverblue> hi guys, I created a virtual site at /var/www/my_site. How do I web browse to the index.html within it ?
[01:16] <danielathome19> @guiverc the GUI is currently (mostly) frozen, it ticks every few minutes but I can't get into any command interface currently unless you know a backdoor access when the RAM is full
[01:18] <guiverc> as stated; you can give kernel commands directly via SysRq, but it's easiest in my opinion switching to text terminal, logging in & looking there.. but if RAM is full & system is thrashing (swapping constantly), it's not frozen .. just slow due to excesss tasks for your resources/memory
[01:19] <neverblue> I keep hitting the apache default page, rather than my site
[01:21] <neverblue> ah, I see, I run sudo a2dissite 000-default
[01:22] <danielathome19> guiverc main concern is my partitions: sdd1 is 1.4 tb, sdd2 is 500 gb, and sdd3 (empty) is 100 gb which I wanted to merge into sdd1 (where partitionmanager is currently stuck at 50% on). Sdd2  has most of my important files that sdd1 doesn't, but my concern is with the partition table getting scrambled in the process of recovering or force
[01:22] <danielathome19> stopping. Does setting sfdisk -N on the partition actually make an important impact on the expansion process?
[01:25] <guiverc> you've described a system that to me could be thrashing, not stuck ; sfdisk deals with partition table so data is at risk to everything done (why backups are suggested first), and thrashing means it'll just be ultra-slow
[01:26] <guiverc> others may have more/different advice..
[01:27] <danielathome19> Hmm, even before the program I just opened lagged out the GUI it was still stuck on the 50% with no other programs running and low CPU/RAM usage, what could be the cause for something like that?
[01:28] <vater> recommend avoiding partitions
[01:28] <vater> tje code needs to be hand fixed by canonical
[01:29] <vater> physical disk should mean physical disk
[01:29] <vater> there isnt any point to partitioning aside from crypto or copying
[01:30] <vater> if you simply want to use your disk
[01:30] <vater> use a full disk
[01:30] <vater> full physical disk
[01:30] <vater> put in a support ricket witj canonical
[01:30] <vater> say you want physical disk to mean physical disk
[01:31] <danielathome19> Yeah that's what I was trying to go back and change, I didn't want to use multiple partitions and thought I'd expand it again to avoid this issue lol
[01:31] <vater> no
[01:32] <vater> dont mess withpartitiining unless you need to for a specificpurpose
[01:32] <vater> it isnt well worked out
[01:32] <oerheks> danielathome19, so.. your system is unresponcive,  try the reisub method or just hard reboot
[01:32] <vater> but if you wanted to copy a sustem you may need smaller partitions
[01:32] <oerheks> or wait more days?
[01:33] <vater> say you wanted to copy your entire disk to an sdcard
[01:33] <vater> then maybe you need it
[01:33] <danielathome19> Might have to wait a few more days, hopefully not but that's probably my safest bet
[01:34] <vater> ask canonical to fix the code
[01:34] <vater> buy asupport package
[01:34] <vater> tell canonical you want an option for full disk useage
[01:35] <oerheks> vater, please stop, this makes no sense
[01:35] <vater> shouldnt be hard foraprogrammer to modify it so the superblock isnt corrupted
[01:35] <vater> otherwise put boot on an sdcard but with bioses this getsdifficult
[01:36] <vater> many bios only like to boot from the first hard disk
[01:36] <oerheks> ...
[01:36] <vater> and grub screws up
[01:36] <oerheks> i hate drunk talk
[01:36] <vater> grub doesnt work as written
[01:36] <guiverc> vater, i don't understand what you're talking about, and please stop spamming the channel
[01:41] <courrier> Some deb package has been installed automatically in my OS, how can I know which one installed it?
[01:43] <guiverc> courrier, you haven't given OS/release details, but I'd look in apt logs (/var/log/apt/history.log)
[01:44] <oerheks> synaptic can filter it pretty easy
 Sorry, I'm running Ubuntu 20.04
 Synaptic says "this change is not coming from a source that supports changelogs
[01:55] <kk4ewt> vater actually its secure-boot that is the real issue
[01:56] <kk4ewt> there is not an real issue if you dont have secure boot enabled
[01:56] <kk4ewt> watch the Security Now podcast on twit.tv
[01:56] <vater> newer mchines hve it builtin
[01:56] <kk4ewt> but you can disable it
[01:57] <kk4ewt> this is not just a software fix, it will be a firmware fix to the motherboard as well
[01:57] <vater> no thecode is full of bugsnd qwirks
[01:58] <kk4ewt> and bootworm they found other bugs yes, but fixing bootworm is more than a grub fix
[01:59] <kk4ewt> in facts the fixes are breaking things, so we need to slow down and dont expect an inmediate fix
[02:00] <kk4ewt> go watch that podcast Steve Gibson of Gibson Research explains it very well
[02:00] <vater> if you keep it default install it works usually
[02:00] <kk4ewt> also if you have to have physical access to really for it to be  a vulnerbility
[02:02] <vater> iy kindof went downhill
[02:02] <vater> over the years
[02:02] <kk4ewt> you are over reacting and only seeing the FUD
[02:03] <vater> FUD?
[02:03] <kk4ewt> Fear, Uncertainity and Doubt
[02:03] <vater> no I simply said kimd went downhill
[02:04] <kk4ewt> no you have been fussing for 30 min
[02:04] <vater> you know what attracted mw to ubuntu
[02:04] <leftyfb> vater: kk4ewt: please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:04] <leftyfb> vater: do you have a support question?
[02:05] <kk4ewt> leftyfb;  well this effects all linux distros
[02:06] <vater> leftyfb volunteering
[02:06] <leftyfb> kk4ewt: what is your support question?
[02:06] <kk4ewt> i dont have one
[02:11] <vater> leftyfb: if you pay canonical will they fix what I tell them
[02:11] <leftyfb> vater: Please contact Canonical for questions about their paid support
[02:17] <vater> with grub2 you cant really change the boot part
[02:18] <vater> it simply doesnt work right
[02:18] <vater> do not recommend playing with partitiins on ubuntu
[02:18] <leftyfb> vater: care to elaborate on your support question with details and a question?
[02:19] <vater> as a volunteer leftyfb dont recommend it
[02:20] <leftyfb> vater: do you have a support question?
[02:20] <vater> playing with partitiins on ubuntu is not recomended
[02:21] <leftyfb> vater: that is not a support question and not a recommendation applicable to a lot of questions we get here. Please keep it to yourself
[02:22] <vater> do you like to hear yourself talk or what I am going to #mythbuntu
[02:23] <vater> it forwards here
[02:24] <leftyfb> vater: try #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:24] <vater> did you get realtime kernel on mythbuntu
[02:25] <leftyfb> vater: mythbuntu is a discontinued and unsupported project
[02:25] <vater> that is why it went downhill
[02:25] <vater> nothing supported
[02:26] <vater> did the queen of england takeover canonical
[02:27] <leftyfb> vater: please take your banter to #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:27] <vater> serious questiin
[02:27] <vater> maybe I heard from her
[02:28] <leftyfb> vater: please stop. Go to #ubuntu-offtopic. Your banter is best suited there. This is a support channel
[02:28] <vater> toget the notion the queen took it over
[02:32] <danielathome19> guiverc my os is still thrashing even after attempting some sysreq and tty commands to take console control again, but I'm concerned that if I do reisub then the partition manager will die mid-geometry set. I've got a VM that was reloading through virtual box and can still see the loading cursor progressing (extemely) slowly - should I just wait it
[02:32] <danielathome19> out or attempt something else to kill just virtual box?
[02:34] <guiverc> danielathome19, i read thrashing (out of memory & subsequent constant page-in, page-out; which is slow) thus I'd wait as long as possible ..  using monitoring tools from term (`top` etc) may provide clues if it's very.slowly progressing just slow b/c of thrashing..)
[02:36] <danielathome19> That's what I figured too, if only I could access my terminal to close out the one process lol but if it takes another view days I'm probably better safe than sorry
[02:36] <danielathome19> Few*
[03:00] <phiona> in "etc/default/grub" i edited  export GRUB_MENU_PICTURE="/boot/grub/original_file_name.png" to something else, and when i run  sudo update-grub, its still on the original file name. whats the matter?
[03:07] <gnoob> THis says "Add the following line:  GRUB_BACKGROUND=/path/filename"
[03:07] <gnoob> https://www.unixmen.com/change-grub-background-themes-ubuntu-linux-mint/
[04:29] <danielathome19> @guiverc thank you so much for your help earlier -- after a few hours it looked like everything hung completely and while I was doubtful, reisub was my saving grace after all! Nothing lost or broken.
[04:30] <guiverc> you're most welcome
[04:30] <danielathome19> Sysreq is much more useful than I ever gave it credit for 🤙 learn something new every day
[04:39] <scythefwd2> so my network has shifted from running 100 mb/s to 20mb/s on my laptop
[04:39] <scythefwd2> still see 100 mb/s on my windows install, same laptop
[04:39] <scythefwd2> I dont know where to look to troubleshoot this
[04:40] <scythefwd2> got so bad I replaced my router with a nighthawk r6400v2
[04:40] <scythefwd2> I'm not expecting AC speed performance.. but wireless G would be nice
[04:41] <tatertots> scythefwd2: are you chatting from the computer right now?
[04:41] <tatertots> scythefwd2: in terminal>     inxi -Fxxprzc0|nc termbin.com 9999
[04:41] <scythefwd2> yes
[04:41] <scythefwd2> I'm on it now
[04:42] <tatertots> scythefwd2: follow instructions on screen to install if not installed and follow through
[04:42] <tatertots> scythefwd2: share url/link here..if you do not get a url/link..simply say so
[04:43] <scythefwd2> https://termbin.com/v1gm
[04:44] <tatertots> scythefwd2: in terminal>     nmcli d w l|nc termbin.com 9999
[04:45] <tatertots> scythefwd2: share url/link here..if you do not get a url/link..simply say so
[04:45] <scythefwd2> @tatertots.. I already posted the link man
[04:46] <tatertots> scythefwd2: you're thinking that only one instruction and link was requested, in reality there are two so far
[04:46] <scythefwd2> sorry, let me get the second one
[04:46] <tatertots> scythefwd2: and there may be more so try to keep up
[04:46] <scythefwd2> no url output from second mcommand
[04:47] <tatertots> scythefwd2: in terminal>     nmcli d s|nc termbin.com 9999
[04:47] <tatertots> scythefwd2: share url/link here..if you do not get a url/link..simply say so
[04:48] <scythefwd2> https://termbin.com/fyk2
[04:49] <tatertots> scythefwd2: were going to try that again ....i expect it to show something
[04:49] <tatertots> scythefwd2: in terminal>     nmcli d w l|nc 5.39.93.71 9999
[04:50] <scythefwd2> no output
[04:53] <scythefwd2> without the piped command.. I'm seeing my 3 ssid's, mode infra, channel info, rate, and signal level
[04:53] <scythefwd2> I'm 3 ft from the router.. so the 2x 100% is unsurprising
[04:53] <tatertots> scythefwd2: in terminal>     nmcli d w l &> ~/nip.pir
[04:53] <tatertots> scythefwd2: you may not see any output
[04:54] <scythefwd2> no output
[04:54] <tatertots> scythefwd2: in terminal>     cat ~/nip.pir|nc 5.39.93.71 9999
[04:54] <scythefwd2> https://termbin.com/4d1p
[05:00] <tatertots> scythefwd2: in terminal>     iwconfig wlo1|nc 5.39.93.71 9999
[05:01] <scythefwd2> https://termbin.com/bhzq
[05:03] <tatertots> scythefwd2: have you tried connecting to Fred-5G?
[05:03] <scythefwd2> same results
[05:04] <tatertots> scythefwd2: is your new wireless router in mixed mode?
[05:04] <scythefwd2> 10-20 mb/s
[05:04] <tatertots> scythefwd2: looks like it is
[05:04] <scythefwd2> yes.. it is doing both 2.4g and 5g
[05:04] <tatertots> that's not what i meant by mixed mode
[05:05] <tatertots> it does have "2x bands" referred to as "dual band"
[05:05] <tatertots> i was referring to it's modulation scheme
[05:05] <scythefwd2> that should be listed under wireless options yes?
[05:06] <tatertots> scythefwd2: if you connect to your iPhone/ANdroid hotspot are any speeds > 56Mbps shown?
[05:07] <scythefwd2> connect to my phone as a wifi hotspot and test?
[05:08] <tatertots> scythefwd2: yes...because we can't talk to much about the details of how your nighthawk r6400v2 may be configured since that is NOT ubuntu related.
[05:08] <tatertots> scythefwd2: so testing some other WLAN would be more ideal
[05:08] <scythefwd2> gimme a sec to get it fired up
[05:12] <scythefwd2> I'm seeing 1mb/s over the phone...
[05:13] <tatertots> that's even slower..geez
[05:13] <tatertots> scythefwd2: in terminal>     iwconfig wlo1|nc 5.39.93.71 9999
[05:13] <scythefwd2> yeah.. I'm in a basement right now ... but I dont get fast connections tethering on the phone
[05:14] <scythefwd2> https://termbin.com/3sj5
[05:15] <scythefwd2> the tx excessive retries is interesting.. thats a very recent connection
[05:16] <tatertots> scythefwd2: i see some posts online that suggest to disable IPv6
[05:16] <tatertots> scythefwd2: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1136064/slow-wifi-packet-loss-sometimes-disconnect-rtl8822be-driver-ubuntu-16-04
[05:17] <tatertots> scythefwd2: so far everything you can connect to shows Bit Rate=54 Mb/s
[05:17] <scythefwd2> yeah..
[05:17] <tatertots> scythefwd2: with is 802.11G speeds
[05:17] <scythefwd2> saw that..
[05:17] <tatertots> which
[05:28] <scythefwd2> well, following the disable ipv6 in that thread has resulted in  no performance
[05:31] <tatertots> scythefwd2: okay
[05:34] <scythefwd2> is there a way to see the last time my network driver was updated?
[05:36] <tatertots> not that i know of
[05:38] <scythefwd2> wondering if there may have been an issue introduced with the latest kernel module.. this one took like over a year to get a driver for it
[05:39] <tatertots> scythefwd2: boot you other kernel versions and test
[05:39] <tatertots> scythefwd2: that would rule out kernel versions
[05:39] <scythefwd2> rtw_pci 0000:03:00.0: failed to send h2c command
[05:39] <scythefwd2> thats what I as about to do
[05:39] <scythefwd2> seeing a bit of that in dmesg
[05:39] <scythefwd2> anyways.. off to reboot
[05:40] <rjwiii> rebooting is underrated ...
[05:42] <scythefwd2> old kernel, no go
[05:42] <scythefwd2> was a thought
[06:36] <nedR> hello , i am trying to connect to my localhost mysql server from mysql workbench via mysql workbench. Now by default mysql root user uses Socket Peer-Credential Pluggable Authentication. Basically it checks if the socket connection is coming from a root user to authenticate (instead of using a password). But my ubuntu 18.04 doesn't have or encourage gksudo use... what is the correct secure way to go about this?
[06:36] <nedR>  to my localhost mysql server *via mysql workbench
[06:40] <nedR> This is basically the issue i am facing. https://askubuntu.com/questions/773446/unable-to-connect-via-mysql-workbench-to-localhost-in-ubuntu-16-04-passwordless . But the accepted solution is to use password authentication. But that seems less secure than the mysql default. With password authentication it stores the password in gnome keyring i guess.. but is that secure enough? Can other processes also read the password from there too?
[07:05] <nedR> answer from #mysql : create another admin@localhost user with a password to use with mysqlworkbench. Not ideal. but best practical solution, i guess
[09:10] <retran> so...
[09:22] <tatertots> 0
[10:02] <Fairy> In Ubuntu 20, is it possible to apt-get a package for Ubuntu 18, and all its dependencies? (yes, bad idea, ABI incompatibility and all that :))
[10:03] <tatertots> Fairy: in ubuntu 20 you have focal repositories
[10:04] <tatertots> Fairy: anything you apt get will be from focal repositories
[10:04] <tatertots> Fairy: ...anything supported
[10:05] <Fairy> "focal repositories"?
[10:05] <tatertots> Fairy: short answer...NO
[10:07] <Fairy> can I somehow temporary change that?
[10:07] <tatertots> no
[10:09] <tomreyn> Fairy: i recommend you discuss what your overall goal is
[10:10] <k_sze> I'm on Ubuntu 18.04. How come I'm not notified about the availability of 20.04, now that the first point release of 20.04 is out?
[10:10] <tomreyn> Fairy: Also please always specify the full release version numbers, such as 20.04 LTS or 18.04 LTS, there's no "Ubuntu 18" or "Ubuntu 20".
[10:10] <k_sze> (when I launch Software Updater)
[10:12] <Fairy> tomreyn, I have a cross platform C# project, it works in Windows, MacOS and Ubuntu 18.04 LTS; it's System.Data.SQLite as a dependency, which then dynamically loads "libsqlite3-mod-spatialite". Loading this library in Ubuntu 20.04 LTS causes a segfault.
[10:14] <tomreyn> k_sze: Maybe you read ( at https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2020-April/000256.html ) that "Users of 18.04 LTS will be offered the automatic upgrade when 20.04.1 LTS is released", but i don't think this means to say that these events will be simultaneous, it rather descibes means to say that upgrades from 18.04 LTS will be enabled some time after the 20.04.1 release. http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release-lts does not yet list
[10:14] <tomreyn> 20.04, so there's no supported LTS upgrade path from 18.04 available, yet.
[10:15] <k_sze> I see. Thanks.
[10:15] <tomreyn> Fairy: a segfault in what?
[10:16] <Fairy> tomreyn, I suspect that System.Data.SQLite has an ABI incompatibility with the Ubuntu 20.04 LTS environment; so I was wondering whether I could simply migrate the Ubuntu 18.04 libsqlite3-mod-spatialite binaries and see whether the issue lies in the System.Data.SQLite binaries
[10:17] <tatertots> his project probably segfaults
[10:18] <Fairy> her* and yes.
[10:20] <tomreyn> and you got System.Data.SQLite from ubuntu or elsewhere?
[10:21] <Fairy> tomreyn, elsewhere. Nuget to be specific.
[10:21] <tomreyn> so then i would assume your guess about the ABI incompatibility may well  be right and you should rebuild it from source so that it becomes compatible.
[10:23] <tomreyn> mixing packages of different releases on ubuntu may seem easier at first, but is not something you should ever do if you're trying to produce software for anyone other than yourself, and don't want to break your and other peoples' apt dependency resolver.
[10:23] <Fairy> agreed. This just seemed like the quickest method to verify. Compiling foreign packages is always PITA
[10:27] <Fairy> Speaking of ABI incompatibility, this is very much a fuzzy subject to me; but, what exactly causes a binary incompatibility between Ubuntu 18.04 LTS and Ubuntu 20.04 LTS? Is it just the case of a newer version of the compiler being used?
[10:30] <nedR> No experience in matter but couldn't snap/flatpak solve Fairy's problem?
[10:30] <tomreyn> possibly different compiler version, possibly different compiler flags, likely different glibc, likely different versions of other build dependencies, introducing different symbols
[10:32] <tomreyn> if Fairy's goal was (or is?) to produce a software which works across multiple ubuntu releases, then i guess so, though i'm not familiar with snap + mono
[10:33] <tomreyn> there's #snapcraft for discussing such
[10:33] <tomreyn> for ubuntu application development, there's #ubuntu-app-devel, but it's more of a self-support channel, doesn't get much love these days.
[10:35] <Fairy> my initial goal is to just verify the problem. System.Data.SQLite makes this difficult, as it's a mix of native/.net code~
[10:41] <tomreyn> i'm afraid i won't be able to help more with this. maybe a linux mono channel would be a better help.
[10:42] <tomreyn> !alis
[11:01] <Fairy> <3
[11:06] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:07] <marcoagpinto> BluesKaj: Hi!
[11:08] <BluesKaj> hey marcoagpinto
[11:19] <tatertots> 0
[11:56] <dw1> after upgrade to 20.04 the new virtualbox says VT-x is not available. (VERR_VMX_NO_VMX). i never had VT-x but my 32-bit Win7 used to run. any ideas
[11:56] <dw1> i disabled all the virtual stuff still no
[11:56] <dw1> people with more advanced systems disable hyperV but dont know if i have that
[11:56] <dw1> did fossal add it
[11:57] <dw1> fossa*
[12:00] <dw1> " v6.1 doesn't support my old CPU. So, I had to downgrade to use VB again."
[12:00] <dw1> guess im hooped
[12:32] <th34lch3m1st> Buongiorno a tutti
[12:33] <tomreyn> hi th34lch3m1st, do you have any ubuntu support questions there?
[12:35] <gvvg> Hi - can anyone suggest a good sip softphone? I tried to install jitsi but it get's stuck after launching ... so looking for alternatives
[12:42] <tomreyn> gvvg: the open source sip softphone situation is not too great, i'm afraid. i guess Linphone and Twinkle may be your best options these days.
[12:44] <gvvg> tomreyn: thank you that's what I'm finding... I appreciate it
[12:45] <tomreyn> maybe Jami, too
[12:47] <tomreyn> quote from their faq: "You do not have to use a Jami account. You can delete, or not use, the Jami account created during the first execution of the client."
[13:07] <gvvg> right
[13:19] <JoeBo77124> Hey guys! How is Everyone?
[13:22] <JoeBo77124> I have a little quad core amd desktop with 4 gigs of ram that I have installed ubuntu on to use as a sort of NAS for my network.
[13:23] <JoeBo77124> ubuntu-server. I've got nextcloud running on the server bare metal. I've also noticed on forums and such that people are running instances of apps like nextcloud in virtual machines or docker containers on their NAS.
[13:24] <JoeBo77124> why is this? is it easier to administrate this way?
[13:25] <JoeBo77124> I know what docker does and I know what vms do, but why not just install the software you need directly to the server?
[13:26] <JoeBo77124> instead of adding a layer of abstraction
[13:28] <BluesKaj> perhaps a false sense of security with extras layers, or the cool factor comes into play here, who knows :-)
[13:29] <JoeBo77124> BluesKaj: So it actually is just all hype?
[13:30] <JoeBo77124> BluesKaj: I mean, I can totally understand in a production environment, but Im just a home user
[13:30] <BluesKaj> JoeBo77124, dunno for sure, but I've seen complex setups that don't seem to make much sense to me, but I'm just an old grumpy linux user who uses the simplest setup possible
[13:31] <tomreyn> containment can have some benefits. but if that's the only use case this system will have, i don't see a need for the container / VM.
[13:32] <JoeBo77124> tomreyn: well of course I may want other services. Squid caching proxy caught my eye. Im not entirely sure nextcloud will cater to tall my cloud needs
[13:33] <tomreyn> if, however, you want to run some entirely different service on this system also, and maybe that'll require a newer ubuntu version than what nextcloud supports at the time, you might be happier had you done the separation early on.
[13:33] <tomreyn> with just 4 GB RAM you'll probably not want to to VMs, though, rather lxc or something.
[13:34] <tomreyn> docker is another option
[13:35] <JoeBo77124> tomreyn: thats another thing I was going to ask. whats the performance on containers vs full blown vms
[13:36] <JoeBo77124> tomreyn: because I honestly always thought I could spin up a headless ubuntu server with 500mb of ram
[13:36] <tomreyn> depends on what your hardware supports. but there's certainly both a CPU and memory impact.
[13:37] <tomreyn> a plain server without services should still work with 500 MB RAM.
[13:37] <JoeBo77124> tomreyn: Ive got a 2.3 ghx amd quad-core with support for amd-v. So i do have virtualization acceleration
[13:38] <tomreyn> but if 256 MB of that go to an integrated graphics card then that's different
[13:38] <tomreyn> i'd still prefer containers with your use case.
[13:39] <tomreyn> i also think you may need / want to read up on containers vs virtualization to understand the difference.
[13:40] <tomreyn> or just install everything on bare metal now and consider alternatives when things become unmanageable
[13:42] <JoeBo77124> tomreyn: I think I understand the difference. VMs virtualize the whole hardware stack from the machine to the software layer. containers like lxc and docker only virtualize the environment necessary to run an app. correct?
[13:44] <tomreyn> JoeBo77124: you can run a full system in a container, but yes, overall this sums it up fine.
[13:44] <tomreyn> the maindifference is probably that you don't run a separate kernel in a container.
[13:45] <JoeBo77124> tomreyn: Yeah I saw a docker image for apline linux. where I am a little murky is the performance tradeoff between containers and vms.
[13:46] <JoeBo77124> tomreyn: done alot of google-fu and cant get any clear information on that
[13:46] <tomreyn> containers have a very low impact, basically neglible.
[13:47] <JoeBo77124> tomreyn: thanks alot! I really appreciate the help
[13:47] <tomreyn> you're welcome
[14:10] <eqw> When do-release-upgrade without options will allow to upgrade to FocalFossa?
[14:10] <oerheks> eqw, no. not today../
[14:11] <oerheks> !lstupgrade
[14:11] <oerheks> !ltsupgrade
[14:12] <eqw> So no info disclosured other than "days or weeks"?
[14:12] <eqw> or maybe some mailing list of something?
[14:12] <oerheks> upgrade path is ready when it is ready, mind this is LTS.
[14:13] <oerheks> keep an eye on https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/
[14:32] <systest> I've rebuilt a 16.04 system as 20.04 and now none of of my changes in /etc/sudoers.d are taking effect (yes, I used visudo)  how does one turn on debugging?  I tried adding `Debug sudo /tmp/sudo_debug.log all@debug` to /etc/sudoers` but visudo reports that's a syntax error
[14:37] <leftyfb> systest: you know you need to log out and back in for the changes to take affect right?
[14:37] <leftyfb> systest: but if visudo is reporting a syntax error, I would look there first
[14:40] <systest> leftleg_, wasn't aware a new login was required, although I had spawned a new shell.  regardless, I had rebooted the system as well (for an other change).  Note the syntax error is only for trying to enable debugging.  no error is reported on the config files which I've used in the past
[14:44] <oerheks> why /tmp/sudo_debug.log?  manual gives; Debug sudo /var/log/sudo_debug.log all@debug
[14:49] <systest> oerheks, path really shouldnt matter.  this is a one off that I'm going to delete once I'm done debugging.  Most annoying thing is I've tried that exact line, verbatim from the man page and visudo says it's a syntax error
[14:51] <systest> well `Debug sudo /var/log/sudo_debug all@warn,plugin@info`  regardless, it's reporting that's a syntax error
[14:52] <systest> thanks all for the replies, need service an interrupt, will have to look at this later
[15:32] <Jackneill> hey
[15:33] <Jackneill> what is the way of getting the qt5 dev headers now?
[15:34] <ddssss> hello, i am pretty bad with networking and i can't connect to my server, using IPMI session, when I've just logged in, it says failed to connect, please check your internet conenction
[15:34] <ddssss> what needs to be done to check this?
[15:35] <oerheks> Jackneill, maybe this page is any help; https://wiki.qt.io/Install_Qt_5_on_Ubuntu
[15:36] <Jackneill> oerheks, saw it, qt5-default now contains nothing
[15:36] <Jackneill> guess the direction the qt company set is to make me migrate to something else
[15:36] <oerheks> iirc it is a license issue?
[15:37] <Jackneill> not sure
[15:37] <Jackneill> but as i see the nest on HN it seems they are trying to bury deep the fact that you can use qt for free
[15:37] <Jackneill> and wish they never had the agreement with KDE
[15:37] <Jackneill> :D
[15:45] <MikeRL> I could ask this at the Mozilla Team channel, but has anyone else with Firefox 79 and GNOME shell extensions noticed that the native host connector isn't detected? I tried a fresh profile.
[15:46] <MikeRL> I am using the Mozilla security PPA version of Firefox, but I don't think there's too much of a difference. Just get candidate builds of stable releases and quicker security updates. Every other browser, including Firefox Nightly, will run properly.
[15:46] <MikeRL> And I've tried purging chrome-gnome-shell and reinstalling it after ALT+F2 and r.
[15:47] <MikeRL> I could always compile chrome-gnome-shell myself. Computer is powerful enough although the CPU is a dual core i7, it was top end mostly when I bought it.
[15:48] <MikeRL> 16GB RAM, SSD 1 TB, good enough specs all around.
[15:51] <ddssss> anyone know where to check if the default interface has no ip assigned to it ?
[15:54] <MikeRL> I may have figured it out.
[15:54] <MikeRL> Yep gnome shell extensions doesn't like apparmor. Only apparmor issue I've found with it.
[15:55] <MikeRL> I'll just toggle it on and off when I need to update extensions.
[15:59] <JaneLane> I'm Using Ubuntu Server 18.04.4. I would like to add a file to the initramfs. Have googled and nothing I can find tells me how to do this.  Adding /etc/initramfs-tools/root and placing it there does nothing as lsinitramfs can not find it after a update-initramfs
[16:06] <leftyfb> JaneLane:http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/xenial/man8/initramfs-tools.8.html   specifically, the copy_exec command
[16:07] <leftyfb> JaneLane: https://serverfault.com/a/476699
[16:08] <JaneLane> OMG Thank You! leftyfb
[16:12] <systest> leftyfb, oerheks got back to debugging, sort of resolved the issue
[16:13] <Hejkki> what is the easiest way to install ubuntu to a usb stick so that i can change settings, and install programs and save them for the next boot?
[16:13] <leftyfb> !persistent | Hejkki
[16:13] <Hejkki> not from a usb, but to a usb
[16:14] <Hejkki> ok ah the second link ok
[16:14] <systest> first, leftyfb you do not have to re-login.  changes are picked up right away.  second, I blame systemd reslover :-)  Issue is I _was_ specifying localhost.  changing to ALL works around the problem.  now I need to figure out why it can't understand "localhost"
[16:15] <systest> note, systemd-resolvd does odd things with localhost, e.g. any 127.0.0.0/8 address is localhost
[16:15] <trumee> Where can i find disco.tar.gz ? it used to be at http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/disco-updates/main/dist-upgrader-all/current/disco.tar.gz
[16:16] <trumee> I am trying to update some old containers, and need disco.tar.gz
[16:18] <trumee> never mind found at http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/disco/main/dist-upgrader-all/current/disco.tar.gz
[16:26] <Mr_x> hi everyone.. need help
[16:26] <Mr_x> what mean this ----->> unable to fetch some packages; try ' -o APT::Get::Fix-Missing=true
[16:27] <Mr_x> how command should i run
[16:35] <systest> what command are you running that returns that error?
[16:38] <Mr_x> i run sudo aptitude install ubuntu-gnome-desktop
[16:43] <Mr_x> then i get this error ----->> E: unable to fetch some packages; try ' -o APT:: Get::Fix-Missing=true' to continue with missing packages
[16:43] <AlwaysInTime> Anyone here use AWS/cloud9? For some reason the code editor (ace) has decided to stop showing anything. How do I fix this?
[16:44] <Mr_x> what command should i run now systest
[16:46] <systest> per the error message, try `sudo aptitude  -o APT:: Get::Fix-Missing=true install ubuntu-gnome-desktop`
[16:47] <systest> also, I find it helps to run `apt-get update` before trying to install packages.  It ensures everything is up to date.  You need to run that as root  `sudo apt-get update`
[16:48] <systest> note there's a typo above, an extra space.  My point is, use the argument the error message gives you with the command you are running
[16:49] <Mr_x> systest:  typo? which one
[16:49] <systest> no space  in "APT:: GET"
[16:52] <Mr_x> owh ok systest thank for ur help
[16:56] <systest> yw
[17:00] <tomreyn> !ot | AlwaysInTime
[17:00] <tomreyn> try ##aws or ask !alis
[17:03] <tomreyn> -o 'APT::Get::Fix-Missing=true' should be the same as -f
[17:04] <tomreyn> that's to apt(-get), not to aptitude
[17:07] <AlwaysInTime> tomreyn: I know. The aws channel seems to be dead. I was hoping that someone here knew
[17:08] <tomreyn> that doesn't make it any more on topic here
[17:09] <AlwaysInTime> I was hoping that since the virtual environment uses ubuntu that it was an ubuntu issue
[17:20] <aminvakil> Hello
[17:20] <aminvakil> I was wondering why ubuntu installs coreutils in different directories
[17:20] <aminvakil> https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/amd64/coreutils/filelist
[17:20] <aminvakil> in /bin and /usr/bin
[17:21] <aminvakil> I've checked archlinux, centos 7, centos 8, debian 10.
[17:21] <aminvakil> They have all linked /bin to /usr/bin.
[17:21] <aminvakil> What's the reason ubuntu hasn't done this?
[17:22] <aminvakil> coreutils is just an example.
[17:22] <aminvakil> my question is about the whole structure, why /bin isn't linked to /usr/bin?
[17:24] <aminvakil> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxFilesystemTreeOverview
[17:26] <Ben64> it is
[17:26] <aminvakil> I've just run a ubuntu 18 bionic and it's not
[17:26] <Ben64> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 7 Jul 17 02:18 /bin -> usr/bin
[17:27] <aminvakil> Could you please tell me which ubuntu version are you using?
[17:27] <Ben64> 20.04
[17:27] <aminvakil> So I assume this has been changed in latest stable version.
[17:30] <aminvakil> Although it has not changed in manpages still.
[17:30] <aminvakil> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/focal/en/man7/hier.7.html
[17:30] <aminvakil> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/bionic/en/man7/hier.7.html
[17:30] <aminvakil> They're completely identical and this has not been mentioned in manpage.
[17:32] <aminvakil> Nevermind. manpage is retrieved from https://www.kernel.org/doc/man-pages/, therefore they're completely identical
[17:33] <aminvakil> Ben64: thanks
[18:01] <lesshaste> I am trying to set up a wifi hotspot. Using nm-connection-editor I can set it up so I can see it on my phone but I can't connect to it
[18:02] <lesshaste> is there some way to diagnose this?
[18:17] <viaSanctus> lol i'm done..completely absolutely done...how in the name of anything can one defend linux
[18:18] <viaSanctus> EVERYTHING is difficult :)
[18:18] <viaSanctus> ok..anyone feeling to tell the ranter online he's wrong? :)
[18:20] <viaSanctus> 2 days configuring to get a windows running with a simple vnc
[18:20] <viaSanctus> lol
[18:21] <viaSanctus> in windows 1,5 minutes
[18:21] <viaSanctus> we all know linux is dying :)
[18:24] <lotuspsychje> viaSanctus: only ubuntu questions here please
[18:24] <viaSanctus> ok :)
[18:25] <viaSanctus> why cant i use my ethernet connection from the terminal in ubuntu/kde?
[18:25] <viaSanctus> i can ping fine and see my network details via ifconfig
[18:25] <viaSanctus> once in kde -> nothing in the networks
[18:25] <viaSanctus> adding it manually doesnt change anything
[18:25] <viaSanctus> thats a starter :)
[18:26] <lotuspsychje> !details | viaSanctus matter
[18:26] <viaSanctus> ehmm
[18:26] <viaSanctus> network -> not work -> in kde
[18:26] <viaSanctus> thats it
[18:26] <viaSanctus> network -> work in terminal
[18:26] <viaSanctus> google -> everyone has the problem
[18:26] <viaSanctus> not sure what to say more
[18:27] <JaneLane> Your configuring your network via KDE  nmtui from command line and activate it should do you good
[18:27] <viaSanctus> why isnt my config that already works recognized?
[18:27] <viaSanctus> like it does in every other os?
[18:28] <JaneLane> because the config is loaded with your graphical user interface (kde)
[18:29] <viaSanctus> ok that doesnt make any sense to be honest, but if i get it right i have to add the network from gui, then go to the terminal -> nmtui and then activate?
[18:29] <viaSanctus> can it have the ip i already have ascribed to eth0?
[18:30] <JaneLane> so you are using kde
[18:30] <viaSanctus> its a user interface, not the kernel
[18:30] <viaSanctus> the IP is an address dedicated to a network interface
[18:30] <viaSanctus> driven by the kernel
[18:31] <viaSanctus> it makes 0 sense that every graphic interface has its own IP
[18:31] <JaneLane> thats not it at all. one ip is assigned to each ethernet device the system should use it
[18:31] <viaSanctus> that dcc timed out..guess something has to be "configured" futher
[18:32] <viaSanctus> well eth0 is properly configured
[18:32] <viaSanctus> it works in terminal
[18:53] <tatertots> viaSanctus: are you chatting from the computer right now?
[18:54] <viaSanctus> ehm yes
[18:54] <tatertots> viaSanctus: what are you trying to accomplish?
[18:54] <viaSanctus> JaneLane is already being an amazing help..I understand why linux is so popular now
[18:54] <viaSanctus> its the people
[18:54] <viaSanctus> not the os :)
[18:55] <tatertots> viaSanctus: if you no longer have any problem, join #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:54] <Synx_hm> How do i refresh or get a disk to show up under /dev/disk/by-id ? I have a vm EFI booted and am trying to configure ZFS root but not using the desktop install gui as i am going to do a server install
[19:55] <tatertots> Synx_hm: the server edition has it's own chat room #ubuntu-server
[19:55] <Synx_hm> im using the desktop install iso, sorry for the confusion
[19:56] <Synx_hm> should i still transition to that channel?
[20:06] <tatertots> Synx_hm: as per https://ubuntu.com/blog/zfs-focus-on-ubuntu-20-04-lts-whats-new
[20:06] <tatertots> Synx_hm: ZFS root is "experimental" support
[20:08] <tatertots> Synx_hm: documentation already exists, however if you are unable to reach success using these resources getting help here may not be the best idea since it is "experimental" after all
[20:08] <Synx_hm> understood thanks
[20:12] <emman1> Hello everyone , I just upgraded to ubuntu 20.04 from 18.04 and it is unusable because it freezes after a minute and the I do ctrl-alt-f1 and it works for a minute and freezes again over and over again. please can somebody help me
[20:12] <scythefwd2> well.. narrowed down my networking issue a bit.. It's definitely a compatibility issue between my router and linux (in general.. including android)
[20:14] <scythefwd2> ended up taking my old router, which I replaced for stability reasons, slapping dd-wrt on it, made it a client of the new router, and I see faster rates connecting to the wifi on the old wireless.. seems to be locked to 54M on the new one.. and up to 192 on the old.. so guess I'm contacting netgear
[20:15] <scythefwd2> I forget the name of the guy who was helping me yesterday.. but much thanks man.. whoever you were
[20:15] <tatertots> scythefwd2: cool
[20:15] <emman1> any help with continuous freezing of my ubuntu 20.04
[20:16] <scythefwd2> tater.. thats the man!
[20:16] <scythefwd2> my biggest worry was that the kernel module was updated and I hadn't noticed.. then I was thinking there is no way to roll back just the module..
[20:17] <scythefwd2> but it's got to be the implimentation of the firmware on the router.. so I may be doing a hecken lot of flashing
[20:17] <scythefwd2> I'll have the wife check on her macs to see if it's also an issue there
[20:17] <tatertots> scythefwd2: probably mixed mode in the netgear nighthawk
[20:18] <scythefwd2> thats the thing.. no option to change it
[20:18] <scythefwd2> just mode = upto 1300 and mode up to 450 (5ghz and 2.4ghz respectively)
[20:18] <tatertots> scythefwd2: no option to change mixed mode?...that's less than ideal...especially for a netgear nighthawk, as they aren't the cheapest wireless routers on the market
[20:19] <scythefwd2> but I dont think thats the case becuase it seems to effect OS.. my windows install seems to be connecting at full speeds
[20:19] <scythefwd2> no, they arent..
[20:20] <scythefwd2> so exact same hardware.. and it works in one and not the other?  Gotta be tied to OS.. wonder if netgear went weird with their implimentation on this router or firmware..
[20:20] <scythefwd2> I have a way around it.. the big machine is hard cabled in.. so I get full speeds there.. and its my lab
[20:20] <scythefwd2> it's just the laptop I use for chatting and stuff
[20:21] <scythefwd2> I think the biggest annoyance.. will be the phone only seeing 25M down give or take.. and thats sufficient for my needs
[20:21] <tatertots> scythefwd2: you can reach speeds > 56Mbps with anything besides that netgear nighthawk..so you're on the right path
[20:21] <scythefwd2> I can do it with any other router.. and this router in windows..
[20:22] <scythefwd2> appreciate the help yesterday man.. learned something
[20:22] <scythefwd2> I'll roll back a version or two on firmwre.. if that doesnt help I'll be on the phone with NG tomorrow
[20:23] <tatertots> yeah, i understand, windows and linux are a "apples vs oranges" comparison. So while i understand your observation in WIndows 10, it's still considered a "apples vs oranges" comparison
[20:23] <tomreyn> emman1: did it work reliably before the upgrade?
[20:24] <emman1> yes everything was working fine on ubuntu 18.04 before upgrade
[20:24] <scythefwd2> tatertots.. I absolutely understand that.. just show that the hw is at least configured correctly and the handshake between Linux and the AP is whats goofing up.  Since linux is able to do it on other routers fine.. that narrows it down to the AP itself
[20:24] <tatertots> i.e my Honda does X,Y,Z but this Ford doesn't do X,Y,Z....Honda is NOT Ford so this is somewhat expected
[20:25] <tatertots> Honda vs ford = apples vs oranges comparison
[20:25] <scythefwd2> and since it's literally the same HW.. it indicates the software backing it is whats off..
[20:26] <emman1> itomreyn, I waited for ubuntu 20.04.1 before  upgrade
[20:26] <tomreyn> emman1: please boot it and run this after booting, then copy and paste the url:   journalctl -b | nc termbin.com 9999
[20:26] <scythefwd2> its like trying to compare the 5.4L in my expedition to a 5.4L in a raptor.. same hardware with minor tweaks, but OH  is the software different
[20:27] <tomreyn> emman1: upgrades aren't officially supported, yet, but this shouldn't be why you'r ein this situation.
[20:31] <emman1> ok i will boot and copy and paste as requestered
[21:48] <geosmileus> How can i sudo to another user (su) with the ssh keys in the environment so that git clone still works?
[21:56] <emman1> Hello tomreyn should i put the command --journalctl -b---- into the terminal and copy and paste result here , because when run command did not see anything to copy and paste
[21:57] <tomreyn> emman1: oh, i didn't expect you to return. so the command i had provided -    journalctl -b | nc termbin.com 9999     - would automatically post your logs to termbin.com, and return the exact url
[21:57] <tomreyn> you could share this url with us then
[22:03] <tomreyn> emman1: i'll be going to bed soon, btw.
[22:12] <brenster21> hello, so my computer with ubuntu went offline last week due to a blackout and now I am unable to start programs using systemct1. It keeps saying policy kit disconnected from bus,  no llonger registered authentication agent
[22:13] <emman1> tomreyn, here is the the url---journalctl -b | nc terabin.com 9999
[22:14] <tomreyn> emman1: i don't see a url, just a copy of the command i had provided, with a typo.
[22:15] <emman1> i do not remember there was a url with the original message
[22:17] <tomreyn> emman1: so, i got to go, but you shouldtry to post your system logs online. one way to get them is   journalctl -b    and another, just for the kernel logs (mush shorter, but may be enough), is     dmesg
[22:18] <tomreyn> once you got them posted you can come here or some other ubuntu support community and try to get help with this.
[22:19] <emman1> ok i will try that,thanks for the help
[22:21] <Bashing-om> emman1: For example: "journalctl -p 3 -xb | nc termbin.com 9999 >> https://termbin.com/bhe6" - if you want to filter for errors.
[22:36] <brenster21> So how can I fix my install of ubuntu, since right now I cant start anything with systemctl
[22:37] <Bashing-om> brenster21: From a live environment - run a file system check ( fsck ) ?
[22:38] <brenster21> so make a live usb and boot into it?
[22:39] <Bashing-om> brenster21: In order to repair the file system, it must be unmounted. hense the liveUSB.
[22:39] <brenster21> Understood
[22:39]  * brenster21 is off to go find a usb drive
[22:41] <Bashing-om> brenster21: From the liveUSB terminal run ' sudo fdisk -lu ' to know the target. then say that the target is sda1 then ' sudo fsck /dev/sda1 ' to see what the state of the file system is.
[22:42] <scythefwd2> @tatertot - twas channel selection that ended up fixing it.. dropped the channel down to a lower numbered channel and all of a sudden.. 100m down and up
[22:43] <brenster21> Bashing-om, understood bad news it is going to take me a day to find my usb stick
[22:43] <scythefwd2> all of a sudden, my mbp, my android 8 phone, and the ubuntu installs are all showing right speeds now
[22:44] <Northwoods> hI , http://prntscr.com/twtnea
[22:45] <Northwoods> I have unused space as seen in here , it is space on AWS  EC2 server , how can i use the free available space
[22:45] <Bashing-om> brenster21: A file system check is the first step in recovering from a loss of power. Many times such an event leaves the file system in an inconsistenet state.
[22:47] <oerheks> Northwoods, what free space? xvda1 has some free space to werite to, no unused blocks in that vague printscreen
[22:48] <Bashing-om> Northwoods: I do not see "available space" - but that attention is needed for the root partition xvda1.
[22:49] <Northwoods> oerheks, 1st row and 5th row are showing some available space
[22:49] <Northwoods> oerheks, what command can i use to see comprehensive details
[22:50] <Northwoods> 499316 , used 0%
[22:50] <brenster21> Bashing-om, I understand, now if only  i could find that live usb I made ages ago
[22:50] <Northwoods> udev , tmpfs
[22:51] <oerheks> don't touch udev tmpfs ...
[22:51] <oerheks> only dev
[22:51] <Northwoods> i see
[22:51] <Bashing-om> brenster21: They do tend to hide on us :P Takes 5 minutes to make up a new one if you have access to a linux box.
[22:51] <Northwoods> are they system reserved
[22:51] <oerheks> clear some logs, autoremove unused packets..
[22:52] <oerheks> or buy more :-P
[22:52] <Northwoods> i'll do the third one
[22:52] <Northwoods> So i only have 25 gb in all ?
[22:52] <oerheks> yes
[22:52] <Northwoods> taht too on /dev/xvda1
[22:53] <Northwoods> oerheks, thanks
[22:53] <oerheks> you *could* remove core 9436 .. but i would leave it as backup
[22:53] <oerheks> also ssm-agent 1566
[22:54] <Bashing-om> Northwoods: Bear in mind that at about 95% capacity - file systems become fragmented. UN-Good.
[22:54] <Northwoods> thsoe look like backups
[22:54] <oerheks> that would gain 40 mb
[22:54] <brenster21> Bashing-om te issue is i can't find any of my usb drives lol
[22:54] <Northwoods> thats not enough
[22:54] <Northwoods> Bashing-om, thanks
[22:54] <Northwoods> i'lll increase it
[22:54] <oerheks> have fun!
[22:54] <brenster21> I need to make a spot and hang it up. also if I am running 16.04 does that mean the live usb needs to be 16.04
[22:55] <Bashing-om> brenster21: Yeah - repairs best done with same same operating system.
[22:56] <Bashing-om> brenster21: Old old old - but there is also DVDs as an option.
[22:59] <brenster21> yeah updating has been on my to do list
[22:59] <brenster21> just not very high
[23:07] <djapo> how do intall python 3.6 or above in ubuntu aws lightsail instance ? 4.4.0-1075-aws #85-Ubuntu SMP Thu Jan 17 17:15:12 UTC 2019 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[23:36] <Bashing-om> !info python3 xenial
[23:40] <javatexan> I am have it trouble seeing the microk8s dashboard on Ubuntu core
[23:40] <javatexan> I installed via snap, microk8s 1.18
[23:41] <javatexan> I also enabled dashboard. Haha
[23:53] <brenster21> SON OF a bitch the drive i found was a 1gig
[23:53] <brenster21> who makes a 1gig
[23:59] <Belial> will gnome 3.36.4 land in 20.04?
[23:59] <Belial> or does there need to be a ppa added?