 Kernel -43 doesn't load plasma correctly in 20.04.1 for me
 @Mamarok, -43 is in proposed for focal, so should not be installed for anyone but those doing update testing
 if you have a bug, you can comment on https://bugs.launchpad.net/kernel-sru-workflow/+bug/1890746
[08:41] <Mamarok> thanks, couldn't find that, my search skills used to be better
[11:40] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[21:33] <wxl> hey are backports still a thing?
 Yes, but they are somewhat restricted by a qt dep in plasma.
[21:34] <wxl> oh yuck
[21:35] <wxl> we're on bionic and it appears print-manager caused a crash in plasmashell and that package has seen a LOT of changes
 Yes, so if you want the latest plasma, GG is the only option for Kubuntu users.
[21:36] <wxl> picking and choosing apps out of backports probably isn't a good idea
 I was referencing Focal, but Bionic has the same restrictions if I remember correctly.
[21:37] <wxl> ok thx
 Do you happen to know of the specific patch that fixes the plasma printer issue?
[21:39] <RikMills> wxl: I think there may be a fix for the print manager bug that might be backportable
[21:40] <wxl> i don't know of a specific patch but maybe RikMills does?
[21:43] <RikMills> I can't find the bug right now. I will have to hunt later
 wxl is it one of these?  https://bugs.kde.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=printer%20plasma%20crash
[21:46] <wxl> @DarinMiller i'll dig deeper and get the actual crash report if i can and dig in there. thanks for the hint
[21:47] <RikMills> maybe LP: #1770044
[21:47] <RikMills> a bug that KDE have had several attempts at fixing
[21:48] <wxl> black screen, yep that's the one
[21:49] <wxl> given the user involved in this particular situation (we've only seen it with one), i can absolutely see how the problem started: printing to a non-existing/connected printer
[21:50] <wxl> thanks folks, you rock
[21:51] <RikMills> some are claiming still not fixed on focal, so not sure if any of the KDE patches in that bug really help :(
[21:51] <wxl> still there's clear workarounds, which is very good
[21:51] <RikMills> true!
[21:52] <wxl> it may be that ultimately there is more than one issue
[21:52] <wxl> i see mention of non-existent printers, non-connected printers, duplicate job ids, etc.
[21:53]  * RikMills nods
[21:53] <wxl> interesting too that someone suggested that deleting print-manager and reinstalled it fixed it? weird.
[21:54] <RikMills> yeah, sounds like a coincidence
[21:59] <wxl> it looks lke this is fixed (supposedly) in focal+
[22:02] <RikMills> quote: "For what it's worth, this bug is still present in Kubuntu 20.04."
[22:02] <wxl> right :)
[22:02] <RikMills> only one comment though
[22:03]  * RikMills shrugs
[22:03] <wxl> question is whether or not that's tested on a fresh install
[22:03] <wxl> it may be that a corrupted queue just continues to cause the problem
[22:04] <wxl> seems like the last commit went into 19.12 which didn't come any sooner than focal, so there's that
[22:08] <wxl> nothing in backports for this tho anyways. sigh.