[00:00] <tatertots> TheFu: did you connect "power" to the card ?
[00:01] <tatertots> TheFu: eSATA needs power, either directly from the rail to the card, or externally
[00:01] <TheFu> It is powered thru the PCIe bus.
[00:01] <TheFu> The eSATA devices each have their own power.
[00:01] <TheFu> I've swapped cables already too.
[00:02] <TheFu> This card is an eSATA-PM ...
[00:02] <TheFu> Good ideas. Please keep them coming.
[00:03] <tatertots> TheFu: unplug all eSATA devices from the card
[00:04] <tatertots> TheFu: in terminal>     inxi -Fxxprzc0|nc termbin.com 9999
[00:04] <tatertots> TheFu:  share url/link here..if you do not get a url/link..simply say so
[00:05] <tatertots> TheFu: follow instructions on screen to install if not installed then follow through
[00:09] <TheFu> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/BbxWXFRzkp/
[00:11] <TheFu> sdf and sdg are in the external eSATA array. It is in USB3 mode now.
[00:15] <oerheks> what happens with 18.04 daily with kernel 5.4 ?
[00:16] <TheFu> oerheks, don't plan to touch 18.04, ever. Next upgrade will probably be to 20.04 sometime in 2021.
[00:17] <TheFu> Sorry, oerheks, I assumed that was towards me. IF it wasn't, I apologize.
[00:17] <oerheks> yes, with such setup i would not use 16.04
[00:18] <TheFu> It has been working great 3+ yrs.
[00:20] <TheFu> The eSATA card is new-ish ... straight from 2010 technology.  Got it to get eSATA, avoid USB3, and wanted a known-working adapter. One person did say they had it working with my external array on 20.04 in the reviews, but ...
[00:20] <oerheks> i see line 28 and 31, maybe it is working on it?
[00:20] <oerheks> dm-7 and 8
[00:21] <TheFu> Let me post a nice lsblk ...
[00:21] <tatertots> TheFu: the inxi shows your lsblk..just FYI
[00:22] <TheFu> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/cWJ8VRvs4j/
[00:22] <tatertots> TheFu: with all esata devices disconnected , run the following
[00:22] <tatertots> TheFu: then connect a powered on eSATA device
[00:23] <TheFu> None of the drives in the inxi are connected via eSATA.
[00:23] <tatertots> TheFu: in terminal>      journalctl -f &> ~/nip.pir
[00:24] <tatertots> TheFu: so to recap, you were to run the command and immediately connect a powered up eSATA device
[00:24] <tatertots> TheFu: confirm once completed
[00:26] <TheFu> So ... dmesg -w?
[00:26] <tatertots> is that supposed to be confirmation that you've completed the steps above?
[00:28] <TheFu> Ok - did it.
[00:28] <TheFu> Nothing showing in the screen.
[00:30] <TheFu> in the /tmp/nip.pir file, it just has normal syslog stuff. ... munin, pam, cron stuff.
[00:34] <TheFu> End of the dmesg, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/FF2w98CRKT/
[00:34] <johnjay> is there a way to autohide the bar at the very top of the desktop?
[00:34] <johnjay> when I maximize windows i notice they don't cover it
[00:35] <johnjay> er i have latest ubuntu 20
[00:37] <TheFu> Swapped to yet another cable ... this one is working!  Considering I've never used eSATA before, seems odd to have 2 bad cables. Need to swap the cables on the ports to the card.
[00:37] <TheFu> Thanks guys!
[00:38] <johnjay> weird, for some reason F11 maximizes over the top bar but clicking the maximize icon doesn't
[00:38] <oerheks> good find
[00:38] <oerheks> johnjay, yes, only f11 full screen does that
[00:38] <johnjay> very confusing but ok
[00:38] <oerheks> by design
[00:40] <johnjay> i don't see F11 in the Keyboard Shortcuts menu
[00:44] <TheFu> eSATA speeds good.  164.35MB/s peak and averaging 93.21MB/s off an old, used WD Blue HDD.
[01:31] <amosbird> Hello, how can I use systemtap as a non-root user?
[01:34] <sarnold> amosbird: I don't think you can; some of the bcc iovisor tools work with just root privs, but some tools also require turning off secure boot in order to use them
[01:42] <scythefwd2> enin folks
[01:44] <scythefwd2> has anyone seen an ax200 wificard working in ubuntu recently?
[01:49] <oerheks> scythefwd2, 'disabled fast boot on my Windows OS, and then wifi card was recognised and working'
[01:49] <oerheks> 20.04
[01:49] <oerheks> fastboot should always be disabled, not secureboot.
[01:50] <scythefwd2> works great in windows.. no work at all in my ubuntu
[01:50] <scythefwd2> i dont think this laptop supports fast boot...
[01:51] <scythefwd2> but ill check...
[01:51] <oerheks> no EFI bios?
[01:51] <scythefwd2> has efi.. but barely
[01:51] <scythefwd2> really slimmed down
[01:57] <scythefwd2> confirmed no fastboot
[02:17] <amosbird> sarnold: hmm
[03:09] <zacts> is it possible to dual boot an unencrypted win10 partition with a full disk encrypted ubuntu partition ext4 via the installer?
[03:13] <sarnold> zacts: it's not something I've tried but it is something I'd expect to be pretty straight forward
[03:13] <zacts> Ok
[03:14] <zacts> I think I'm going to go ahead and try this out
[03:14] <zacts> what is the minimum recommended storage space for a default Ubuntu desktop install?
[03:15] <zacts> this laptop only has 100GB of storage
[03:15] <zacts> I'm thinking of alotting 50GB to win10
[03:15] <zacts> I'm only using about 30GB with all of my files at the moment.
[03:16] <zacts> I don't expect my file usage to go much higher than that.
[03:16] <zacts> and I'm trying to look this up, but my tablet is really slow at the moment
[03:17] <rud0lf> zacts: i know it's not the answer you ask for but have you considered expanding storage?
[03:17] <rud0lf> 500GB HDD is really cheap now
[03:17] <rud0lf> replacing disk drive in laptop is usually uncomplicated too
[03:19] <zacts> rud0lf: this is one of those newer flash storage drives.
[03:20] <zacts> also, I'm pretty broke at the moment.
[03:20] <sarnold> zacts: it really depends what you're doing with it, but 50g will get you started, and let you do a few things
[03:21] <sarnold> zacts: 20g is a "usual" cloud configuration; 10g is for "small" ubuntu cloud installs. a gui system will take more than that, but 50g should give you a bit of breathing room
[03:21] <zacts> thanks sarnold. yeah, this is for school. so basically I'll be doing text files + LaTeX + a few ebooks + online classes.
[03:21] <zacts> no gaming or anything like that at the moment
[03:22] <Bashing-om> zacts: ^ I often see 30 Gigs as the recommended mininum, 50 Gigs will give you some breathing room. :D
[03:22] <zacts> cool
[03:22] <sarnold> latex is pretty lightweight :) heck I probably had 20g drives in the computer I first used for latex..
[03:22] <sarnold> granted everything has expanded a lot since then, including me..
[03:25] <zacts> ok, I'm going to test this out.
[03:26] <sarnold> please do have backpus of import stuff from your windows install; I know folks have been resizing their NTFS filesystems for over a decade now but it still makes me worry :)
[03:28] <zacts> ok, thanks. I do have an external drive for this actually.
[03:31] <sarnold> nice nice :)
[04:13] <www2> Hi h have a strange problem i can not hold undo key combo (ctrl-z) and ubuntu reconize only once's
[04:14] <www2> btw i use ubuntu 20.04
[04:15] <oerheks> and repeatedly ctrl z?
[04:15] <Mr_x> hi everyone..
[04:16] <www2> not i and do repeatedly ctrl-z but ubuntu reconize only once and than zzzzz....
[04:17] <www2> or nothing
[04:19] <Mr_x> question: when i on my laptop .. its bring me ------>>two line 1) /dev/sda1: recovering journal  2) /dev/sda1: clean, 3xxxxx/97xxxx files, 2xxxxx/39xxxxxx blocks
[04:19] <Mr_x> anyone know how to solve it
[04:19] <Mr_x> already login as tty mode.. but not work
[04:20] <Mr_x> because on tty mode not hav internet connection
[04:28] <www2> btw this is only on my left ctrl key
[04:29] <www2> in combination with the z key L CTRL-z
[04:47] <pymagic> how do i install nvidia propreitory drivers on ubuntu 20.04lts?
[04:49] <pymagic> anyone runngin 450 here?
[04:49] <tatertots> pymagic: are you chatting from the computer right now?
[04:49] <pymagic> tatertots, no
[04:49] <tatertots> pymagic: okay
[04:50] <pymagic> I am using nvidia -440 propreitory (tested) - how do i move to 450?
[04:51] <oerheks> does the driver section in updates give 450 ?
[04:52] <pymagic> oerheks, nope 440
[04:52] <pymagic> oerheks, i want to run 450
[04:52] <oerheks> one could do the drivers ppa, https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[04:52] <oerheks> but i would stick to the official ones
[04:52] <Jordan_U> Mr_x: That suggests that the last time your computer turned off it wasn't shut down properly, probably from crashing or a power loss.
[04:53] <pymagic> oerheks, the official ones for ubuntu 20.04lts are giving too much trouble - so want to try the nvidia latest ones and see how gnome reacts to that
[04:53] <tatertots> pymagic: make a backup of your files, if 450 ruins your ability to boot to a GUI log in screen you can reinstall and restore your data
[04:54] <oerheks>  carefull with ppa's, they are officially not supported
[04:54] <pymagic> oerheks, seems like the ones I see in bug reports of nvidia cards are the one in this ppa
[04:55] <oerheks> "bug reports of nvidia cards" ?
[04:55] <oerheks> this is a little vague, come back when you are behind that machine
[04:55] <pymagic> oerheks, nvidia + ubuntu 20.04lts + 4k monitor is a mess right now - fractional scaling does not work - and random hangs
[04:56] <Mr_x> Jordan_U:  yeah so what should do now?
[04:56] <pymagic> oerheks, i added that repo  - but i dont see 450 version to install - any ideas?
[04:57] <oerheks> sure it does, do a proper update
[04:58] <pymagic> oerheks, thanks
[04:59] <pymagic> oerheks, how do i move from 440 to 450? there are a lot of 440 packages - is there an easy way to do that
[05:00] <pymagic> oerheks,  it shows up in the UI!
[05:01] <pymagic> oerheks, what i dont understand is how can 450 be source code and 440 be properietory
[05:01] <Jordan_U> Mr_x: Do you know what caused the boot problem in the first place?
[05:03] <Jordan_U> Mr_x: Also, do you have an Ubuntu LiveUSB on hand?
[05:47] <Bluewolf> Good day. I've a samsung 700znp700z5ah with a new install of Ubuntu 20.04. This laptop has dual GPU cards 'AMD® Turks / Intel® HD Graphics 3000 (SNB GT2)'
[05:48] <tatertotz> Bluewolf: are you chatting from the computer right now?
[05:48] <Bluewolf> Yes
[05:50] <tatertotz> Bluewolf: what problem are you having?
[05:50] <Bluewolf> tatertotz: I'm struggling to install the AMD drivers the PPA's not in the "additional drivers" panel in the settings.
[05:51] <tatertotz> Bluewolf: open terminal
[05:51] <tatertotz> Bluewolf: in terminal>      inxi -Fxxprzc0|nc termbin.com 9999
[05:51] <tatertotz> Bluewolf: follow instructions on screen to install if not installed and then follow through
[05:52] <tatertotz> Bluewolf: share url/link here..if you do not get a url/link...simply say so
[05:54] <oerheks> install headers ..
[05:54] <Bluewolf> tatertotz: Command 'inxi' not found, but can be installed with:sudo apt install inxi
[05:54] <oerheks> then add ppz
[05:54] <oerheks> or ppa
[05:55] <Bluewolf> tatertotz: So I've done that and retried.
[05:56] <Bluewolf> tatertotz: Okay I've gotten no link.
[05:58] <Bluewolf> tatertotz: https://pastebin.com/kW7Q1Hqd
[06:01] <Bluewolf> I must also add, I've installed an SSD into this computer. That being said, when I boot up it takes about 3-5 min to load into the desktop after logging in - That lead me to believe its graphic related. When I check for the GPU in the terminal it only showed the Intel and not the AMD.
[06:02] <Bluewolf> https://pastebin.com/t74xz3r5
[06:04] <tatertotz> Bluewolf: i'm back
[06:06] <Bluewolf> tatertotz: Welcome back :)  - I've posted information above.
[06:06] <tatertotz> Bluewolf: no...i don't see the information i requested...
[06:06] <tatertotz> Bluewolf: you were thinking
[06:06] <tatertotz> Bluewolf: you showed me your
[06:06] <tatertotz> Bluewolf:        product: 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller
[06:07] <tatertotz> Bluewolf: when this is a AMD/Radeon discussion
[06:07] <tatertotz> Bluewolf: how about you literally follow the instructions above
[06:07] <tatertotz> Bluewolf: ....literally
[06:08] <tatertotz> Bluewolf: anyhow...AMD has instructions and or a README included with their drivers for GCN 1.x or higher GPU/cards
[06:09] <tatertotz> Bluewolf: and the built in drivers are excellent also, meaning you can just use stock and have awesome performance
[06:09] <Bluewolf> tatertotz: https://pastebin.com/NA38cVRk
[06:09] <Bluewolf> tatertotz: The main issue is the time it takes to load into the desktop after logging in,
[06:10] <Bluewolf> I don't even know where to begin looking to fix it
[06:10] <oerheks> and 11 not upgraded.
[06:10] <oerheks> sudo apt full-upgrade
[06:10] <tatertotz> Bluewolf: in terminal>      cat /etc/*-release|nc termbin.com 9999
[06:10] <tatertotz> Bluewolf: share url/link here..if you do not get a url/link...simply say so
[06:10] <Mr_x> Jordan_U:  that all occur after i update grub .. all desktop are lost.. and i just can login on tty.. but nothing can do.. because no internet connection, yeah i hav Liveusb
[06:11] <Bluewolf> tatertotz: https://termbin.com/mbab
[06:12] <tatertotz> Bluewolf: in terminal>      whereis inxi|nc termbin.com 9999
[06:12] <tatertotz> Bluewolf: share url/link here..if you do not get a url/link...simply say so
[06:13] <Bluewolf> oerheks: Pardon me - Is this in relation to me? - sudo apt full-upgrade
[06:13] <Bluewolf> tatertotz: https://termbin.com/1ewy
[06:14] <oerheks> yes, if you ignore updates, anything can happen or not happen
[06:15] <Bluewolf> oerheks: I did do them - No through the terminal though. I'll run it.
[06:16] <tatertotz> Bluewolf: in terminal>      inxi -Fxxprzc0 &> ~/nip.pir
[06:17] <Bluewolf> oerheks: So in future I run this immediately after a fresh install? -  sudo apt full-upgrade
[06:18] <Bluewolf> tatertotz: No link was posted
[06:18] <tatertotz> Bluewolf: in terminal>      cat ~/nip.pir|nc 5.39.93.71 9999
[06:19] <Bluewolf> tatertotz: https://termbin.com/bgxn
[06:21] <tatertotz> Bluewolf: AMD Whistler [Radeon HD 6630M/6650M/6750M/7670M/7690M] is a pre GCN GPU, you can only use the kernel supplied driver, you cannot install any other driver, and FGLRX stopped being supported in Ubuntu 14.04 which is EOL
[06:22] <tatertotz> Bluewolf: so from a AMD driver perspective....there is nothing for you to do
[06:23] <oerheks> openradeon is loaded, so no issue indeed
[06:24] <Bluewolf> tatertotz: oerheks: So everything is normal?
[06:24] <tatertotz> Bluewolf: from a driver perspective yes
[06:25] <tatertotz> Bluewolf: you're using the Intel GPU right now
[06:25] <Bluewolf> tatertotz: Okay. Then what could be causing the long hanging while loading into the desktop?
[06:25] <raj> I thought upgrading from Ubuntu 18 to 20 would make `python` default to python3, but it's still on python2. Everyone has to manually do this?
[06:26] <raj> changing `python` to mean `python3`
[06:26] <Bluewolf> tatertotz: Yes, I was aware the Intel GPU was running smooth - Just wasn't sure if the AMD was or was causing an issue by not doing so
[06:26] <tatertotz> Bluewolf: in terminal>      sudo systemd-analyze blame|nc 5.39.93.71 9999
[06:27] <Bluewolf> tatertotz: https://termbin.com/zyr9
[06:28] <tatertotz> Bluewolf: that doesn't look like a long time
[06:29] <tatertotz> Bluewolf: in terminal>      sudo systemd-analyze|nc 5.39.93.71 9999
[06:29] <oerheks>  apt-daily-upgrade.service
[06:29] <oerheks> that was pulling unattended updates in..
[06:29] <oerheks> or refreshes snaps, i guess
[06:30] <Bluewolf> tatertotz: oerheks: https://termbin.com/gb7l
[06:32] <tatertotz> Bluewolf: faster than mine
[06:32] <gnoob> raj: This looks like your answer  https://www.fosslinux.com/39384/switching-between-python-2-and-3-versions-on-ubuntu-20-04.htm
[06:32] <Bluewolf> tatertotz: oerheks: Boot up is quick to the login screen, but then after entering the password it hangs with a purple screen before entering the desktop
[06:32] <oerheks> raj,  if you upgraded, python2.7 stays installed.
[06:33] <Bluewolf> tatertotz: oerheks: Weird, the figures make me look like a noob :D
[06:33] <tatertotz> Bluewolf: what are you comparing this to? you can't really have any discussion of performance, fast, slow, without a direct logical comparison
[06:33] <raj> oerheks, I'm just referring to `python` command pointing to python3 instead of python2
[06:33] <oerheks> oh..
[06:34] <raj> I was concerned if I just changed the alias that things would break ( https://askubuntu.com/a/750120 )
[06:35] <Bluewolf> tatertotz: The figures I posted. The links you've seen - They seem/are fast. But in reality from login screen to desktop - It takes a good 3min. After entering the password, it doesn't load into the desktop in an instant - Regardless of the figures
[06:35] <Bluewolf> Unless I reboot now after the full upgrades
[06:36] <raj> gnoob disappeared, but the method described by his link is also not recommended: https://askubuntu.com/a/460578
[06:36] <tatertotz> Bluewolf: what are you comparing ?
[06:37] <Bluewolf> tatertotz: The time it takes to boot up the system
[06:38] <raj> can someone tell me how to get the kernel to refer to python as python3, so even shebangs `/usr/bin/env python` points to python3?
[06:38] <tatertotz> Bluewolf: what you have could be perfectly normal, until you have a direct comparison there is no way to prove it
[06:39] <raj> I thought ubuntu20 was supposed to use python3 as the default, I'm accordingly quite unclear about what's going on
[06:39] <oerheks> sudo ln -s /usr/bin/python3 /usr/local/bin/py
[06:39] <tatertotz> Bluewolf: and the figures show you're booting up to userspace really quickly
[06:39] <raj> oerheks, is that how python2 is doing it currently?
[06:39] <oerheks> you could also remove python 2.7
[06:40] <rootkea> Hello! What is the recommended sources.list entry for security updates? "deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu focal-security main" or "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu focal-security main"
[06:40] <oerheks> raj, yes i think so
[06:40] <Bluewolf> tatertotz: Sorry if I'm confusing you :D  - Indirectly I'm arguing against the figures - I know, madness. But I'll do another restart to check
[06:42] <raj> oerheks, any way to know if anything is using python 2.7 right now?
[06:42] <raj> i mean, any apps I have installed
[06:42] <raj> that depend on it
[06:45] <Bluewolf> tatertotz: Also, I like your approach in eliminating human error by requesting links to analyse the information first hand. Really helps me with my limited understanding of the command line.
[06:47] <tatertotz> Bluewolf: thanks..that usually annoys end users
[06:47] <tatertotz> Bluewolf: they believe in "presto" and magic silver bullets
[06:49] <Bluewolf> tatertotz: You must teach me this too then :D
[06:49] <Bluewolf> I'm following this link - https://askubuntu.com/questions/346368/how-install-toggl-desktop-in-ubuntu
[06:49] <Bluewolf> E: Unable to locate package desktop-Toggl
[06:49] <Bluewolf> What have I done wrong here?
[06:50] <Bluewolf> Follow the responses below?
[06:50] <tatertotz> Bluewolf: there is no packaged by that name
[06:51] <tatertotz> Bluewolf: there is no desktop-toggle package either
[06:51] <raj> oerheks, I also don't have a /usr/local/bin/py file
[06:53] <oerheks> haha such old ppa, look at the date,, or do some research ppa:official-toggl/ppa
[06:55] <oerheks> raj, i think i cut the text; ubuntu sudo ln -s /usr/bin/python3 /usr/local/bin/python
[06:55] <oerheks> sorry
[06:55] <Bluewolf> oerheks: This area is rather deep swimming for me.
[06:55] <oerheks> Bluewolf, did you read the whole article?
[06:56] <oerheks> you end up installing manually, good luck!
[06:57] <raj> oerheks, my /usr/local/bin/ is empty
[06:58] <Bluewolf> oerheks: Thanks, will be 'exciting' :)
[06:59] <oerheks> raj,  i just found this; sudo apt-get install python-is-python3 >>  https://askubuntu.com/questions/1242702/how-to-remove-python-2-from-ubuntu-20-04
[07:00] <oerheks> awesome
[07:01] <raj> I'm seeing a couple things do require python2 so can't remove it
[07:01] <raj> though would still be nice if python referred to python3, and pip referred to pip3
[07:05] <oerheks> interesting, but i have no solution there
[07:20] <Bluewolf> tatertotz: oerheks: Thanks for the help and your time. Have a good day.
[07:21] <tatertotz> Bluewolf: you also
[08:12] <DrManhattan> I swapped out motherboards because the NIC failed on the first one. The replacement mobo has a functional NIC but because I've technically swapped NIC's, I can't get networking up on my install. Can anyone show me where to start here?
[08:12] <DrManhattan> I am on Ubuntu 20.04
[08:12] <DrManhattan> I have to admit netplan has me befuddled
[08:12] <tatertotz> DrManhattan: were the motherboards IDENTICAL?
[08:13] <DrManhattan> They were, but on the old one, because the NIC was broken, I was using a NIC card
[08:13] <DrManhattan> now I am on the onboard
[08:13] <tatertotz> DrManhattan: i understand
[08:13] <DrManhattan> they are different types, old one was intel, new one is realtek
[08:14] <DrManhattan> I cannot be the only one who's swapped out NICs on 20l04
[08:14] <DrManhattan> 20.04
[08:14] <DrManhattan> but I'll be darned if I can find a wiki or manual for this anywhere
[08:14] <tatertotz> DrManhattan: are  you chatting from the computer right now?
[08:15] <DrManhattan> no
[08:15] <DrManhattan> this is a different one, however it is right in front of me
[08:15] <DrManhattan> that would be pretty amusing - Hey my NIC isn't working, but I'm connected to IRC :))
[08:15] <tatertotz> lol
[08:16] <tatertotz> some people USB tether or Wifi hotspot to trouble shoot in real time
[08:16] <tatertotz> DrManhattan: do you have link/activity lights on the NIC?
[08:17] <DrManhattan> yes, it even works fine from a live cd
[08:17] <tatertotz> DrManhattan: ah i see
[08:18] <tatertotz> DrManhattan: that's a sticky situation
[08:18] <DrManhattan> this cannot be that sticky. Swapping out a NIC is a pretty standard thing.
[08:19] <tatertotz> DrManhattan: some config in your installed OS prevents connectivity, works fine from LiveDVD that is free from any of your tweeks customizations or random things from websites and forums
[08:19] <DrManhattan> I haven't done anything to that though, the networking is basically out of the box
[08:19] <DrManhattan> it just didn't pick up the new NIC
[08:20] <tatertotz> DrManhattan: no..the LiveDVD is out of the box, your installed OS doesn't have connectivity when the cable is plugged in
[08:20] <tatertotz> DrManhattan: so it cannot be 1:1 identical to LiveDVD
[08:20] <DrManhattan> ok, but I've not touched the networking
[08:20] <tatertotz> DrManhattan: from a network config perspective
[08:21] <DrManhattan> right, but the configs and the such have never been touched
[08:21] <DrManhattan> the only thing that changed is a new mobo and no more NIC card use
[08:23] <tatertotz> DrManhattan: it is sticky when you cannot analyze the logs, make heads/tails of them and manually configure your networking if need be
[08:23] <DrManhattan> I don't even know which log to look at anymore. I don't understand netplan
[08:23] <DrManhattan> but swapping a NIC cannot be this huge of a deal
[08:24] <tatertotz> DrManhattan: nobody said it was
[08:24] <tatertotz> DrManhattan: and after all...the motherboard swap is in the past...no evidence supports it being a "big deal"
[08:24] <slyon> DrManhattan: can you check you /etc/netplan/*.yaml config? Usually netplan is not really involved on desktop systems, but only passes through to NetworkManager
[08:25] <DrManhattan> it's a headless server
[08:25] <tatertotz> DrManhattan: there just isn't some magic work you can know like "presto" or magic silver bullet to not only know why but remedy the situation
[08:25] <Kazaaak> Hello guys. Maybe someone knows where i can get free email with my own domain?
[08:25] <slyon> DrManhattan: okay. Then please check if for some reasons the MAC address was hardcoded inside the /etc/netplan/*.yaml configs
[08:26] <slyon> DrManhattan: does `ip a` show you new NIC/network interface?
[08:26] <DrManhattan> yes, it just has no ip address
[08:27] <DrManhattan> the mac is not in the yaml config - there was only one
[08:27] <tatertotz> DrManhattan: might be faster to USB tether a iPhone, instead of the time it would take to answer a bunch of individual questions
[08:27] <DrManhattan> I don't have a tetherable phone, and I don't mind answering questions
[08:29] <tatertotz> DrManhattan: clear your calendar then lol
[08:29] <slyon> DrManhattan: you could check the logs in `journalctl -b -u systemd-networkd` (assuming your netplan yaml config is using the networkd backend, usually used on server systems)
[08:29] <DrManhattan> will do, checking now
[08:30] <DrManhattan> ok apparently the NIC lights are no longer lighting up, need to see whats up
[08:30] <DrManhattan> they light up until the OS loads, then they turn off
[08:31] <DrManhattan> fml
[08:32] <tatertotz> lol
[08:33] <tatertotz> not gonna get anywhere if those link/activity lights aren't illuminated
[08:33] <DrManhattan> yeah, gotta see what's up with the module
[08:34] <DrManhattan> realtek 8111e
[08:34] <tatertotz> it just got "stickier"
[08:36] <DrManhattan> this used to be so much easier
[08:37] <tatertotz> worst case...at least you still have that PCI add in card NIC from the old computer that got you by when it's on board NIC failed
[08:37] <tatertotz> old faithful
[08:38] <DrManhattan> No, I don't.
[08:39] <tatertotz> well you can always get another one if need be
[08:40] <np_complete> Hi I have ubuntu 18.04, I try to set default kernel to previous kernel by putting "GRUB_DEFAULT=1>2" in /etc/default/grub and then running 'update grub', but it keeps booting the newest kernel
[08:40] <np_complete> I have double checked that I want to put 1>2
[08:41] <np_complete> I have also tried putting the menu entry-id, no luck, always boots newest kernel
[08:47] <EriC^> np_complete: can you pastebin the output of "(cat /etc/default/grub; sudo update-grub; sudo parted -ls) | nc termbin.com 9999"
[08:48] <DrManhattan> I got the NIC up and blinking, but I need to figure out config
[08:49] <np_complete> https://termbin.com/pr30
[08:50] <DrManhattan> I think I figured it out
[08:50] <DrManhattan> and it might be a straight up pebcak error too
[08:51] <DrManhattan> Yep
[08:51] <DrManhattan> PURE pebcak. SOrry to have wasted your time
[08:53] <slyon> DrManhattan: I'm glad you figured it out!
[08:54] <DrManhattan> thanks
[09:14] <ren0v0> Hi, can anyone recommend an app or software I could use on a local server to monitor and store history on my FTTP connection speed?
[09:20] <dbugger> Hi everyone. I am trying to use scrcpy to use my phone on the desktop, but for some reason, when I run "adb devices", my phone does not appear. Why could this be?
[09:20] <dbugger> (yes, USB debugging is enabled)
[09:25] <dbugger> brb
[09:25] <dbugger> im gonna try reboot :P
[09:29] <dbugger> Well, yes, a reboot worked :P
[09:50] <OERIAS> is to possible to create an ubuntu-lgbtq group?
[09:53] <tatertotz> OERIAS: sure just join #ubuntu-lgbtq
[09:57] <ren0v0> Hi, can anyone recommend an app or software I could use on a local server to monitor and store history on my FTTP connection speed?
[10:04] <ren0v0> Why was pyrenamer removed from ubuntu repos?
[10:04] <ren0v0> great tool that allowed renaming of files using EXIF data, what alternatives are there so that this was removed?
[10:39] <Doc-Saintly> How can I force Ubuntu to use virgl as DRI3? Right now, it's only using DRI2
[10:49] <tatertotz> Doc-Saintly: https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Ubuntu-16.04-Enable-DRI3
[10:55] <Doc-Saintly> Is this relevant to 19.10?
[10:56] <tatertotz> Doc-Saintly: looks like you're going to find out, from personal experience
[11:03] <Doc-Saintly> Ok :)
[11:03] <Doc-Saintly> I generated a new xorg.conf file and saw the lines it gave for the device, I modified it like this:
[11:04] <Doc-Saintly> https://bin.disroot.org/?c58c5317fc417aa9#6kxAgY3TdRty1gGHNSez1w5CNugZqzuiz67kCNS4mwhA
[11:04] <Doc-Saintly> and put it inder xorg.conf.d/10-virgl.conf , is that the correct way to get it to override?
[11:04] <tatertotz> is that what the link above told you to do?
[11:05] <tatertotz> or are you following some other website, guide or howto?
[11:05] <tatertotz> in any event, you'll need to visually verify with the website, guide or howto you're using
[11:06] <Doc-Saintly> Well, the website isn't specific abou what it looked like before
[11:06] <Maik_aD> Doc-Saintly: 19.10 is EOL afaik
[11:06] <Doc-Saintly> but I guess I'll just TIAS
[11:06] <Doc-Saintly> Maik_aD, indeed, but some of the things I'm running are too new for 18, and not supported under 20 yet ~.~
[11:07] <Maik_aD> i see
[11:12] <www2> Hi my ubuntu instalation think that when i press CTRL+z that i press <super_L/Wndows_L> how i can remove this?
[11:15] <narakrish> Hello all.I've developed an application using Qt5.12.7 on Ubuntu 16.04.06 system. I'm facing flickering issue when the application starts. I was able to fix the flickering by installing the following package from ubuntu repository : sudo apt-get install --install-recommends linux-generic-hwe-16.04 xserver-xorg-hwe-16.04. I would like to understand
[11:15] <narakrish> is there any link between Qt 5.12.7 and those packages ?
[11:16] <www2> i use ubuntu 20.04
[11:40] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[11:41] <lesshaste> what is the 20.04 version of gnome-alsamixer called? You can't apt install it
[11:46] <EriC^> lesshaste: try 'apt search alsmixer'
[11:47] <EriC^> *alsamixer
[11:47] <lesshaste> EriC^,  thanks.. I can see a version of the software but it's not clear to me if this is the right GUI approach in 20.04
[11:48] <lesshaste> ah I see the menu in the top right under the sound icon :)
[12:13] <monkeyisl> hi i installed ubuntu 18.04 server and i have usb hub @ montior, i plugged sdcard ... where i can find my drive?
[12:13] <monkeyisl> i'm running ubuntu on vmware.
[12:13] <monkeyisl> and my box is windows 10
[12:18] <monkeyisl>  google is my friend???
[12:49] <BLZbubba> where's a good place to report a package version problem in 20.04?  the universe version of "fio" is 3.16, which has a pretty serious bug
[12:51] <aiena> I was usingg to clone an entire USB disk to an img file. I do not know where it finished. But around 31gb of 32 gb was copied. Is there a way to find out and resume copying into the image a bit before the last few bytes.
[12:51] <aiena> *using dd
[13:01] <leftyfb> !bug| BLZbubba
[13:02] <leftyfb> aiena: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/180330/resuming-a-dd-of-an-entire-disk  it's not easy
[13:13] <BLZbubba> aiena: yes but you need to be 100% sure you don't skip anything... combine the skip and seek options
[13:19] <ren0v0> is it possible to change the volume step size for sound in 20..04 ?
[13:19] <ren0v0> is it possible to change the volume step size for sound in 20..04 ?
[13:35] <Zusor> I've been having very strange issues with UFW blocking requests causing my unifi-video instance's video feed to be inaccessible. Turning off UFW fixes the issue so it has to be the cause. All ports are unblocked yet some requests get blocked anyway. Here's a dump of the errors as well as my ufw config https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Kc5KyHyfSc/
[13:51] <kre10> hey guys, how are you? Can you please help me with something. By my mistake, I added 2 eth0 address on my ubuntu 64 server(raspberry pi 4). And now I have 2 eth0 addresses which is very confusing.
[14:06] <leftyfb> kre10: remove 1 of the addresses?
[14:16] <rootkea> Hello! What is the recommended sources.list entry for security updates? "deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu focal-security main" or "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu focal-security main"
[14:21] <leftyfb> rootkea: the latter doesn't exist
[14:22] <eeos>  hi everybody! I am trying to understand the syntax of the file names in /etc/apt/ and its subdirectories .... I have not found anything useful, or full documentation. Anyone who can point out a good comprehensive document?
[14:23] <rootkea> leftyfb, http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/focal-security/
[14:23] <Bluewolf> Good day. I've two SSD's, One with Windows 10 and the other with a fresh installation of Ubuntu 20.04. Upon installation I made the mistake of selecting "Erase disk and install Ubuntu". Now my system boots into Ubuntu direct. How do I go about installing the boot loader or do I reinstall and set the boot loader during installation?
[14:23] <eeos> the man pages are not really complete and some documentation is out of date (in particular the structure and the names of files in the /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/ directory)
[14:24] <rootkea> leftyfb, Also `apt update` gives no error or warnings for both of those repos.
[14:24] <leftyfb> rootkea: that is not a valid entry in sources.list
[14:24] <Bluewolf> I didn't delete my windows drive - Just didn't install the boot loader on it.
[14:24] <leftyfb> eeos: the file names can be named anything you want
[14:24] <rootkea> leftyfb, Just a moment. Let me find the ubuntu doc page which says otherwise
[14:25] <leftyfb> rootkea: why are you asking? Why not just stick with what is default?
[14:26] <coconut> eeos, here you got a default sources.list for your focal fossa https://termbin.com/g71j
[14:27] <coconut> oops that was meant for rootkea
[14:27] <coconut> rootkea, here you got a default sources.list for your focal fossa https://termbin.com/g71j
[14:30] <rootkea> leftyfb, As per https://askubuntu.com/a/192388, https://repogen.simplylinux.ch etc. there is also http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/focal-security/
[14:30] <rootkea> So clearly there are two repos for security updates. I would like to know the recommended one.
[14:33] <leftyfb> rootkea: that post is from 8 years ago and is a forum post from the community, not official documentation
[14:34] <rootkea> leftyfb, This Release file is live which is as current as we can get http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/focal-security/Release
[14:35] <leftyfb> rootkea: why are you asking about this URL which isn’t used in any official manner? What’s wrong with keeping it the default?
[14:35] <Bluewolf> Can I run this command through a live disk?: sudo grub-install --recheck --no-floppy --root-directory=/ /dev/sda
[14:36] <leftyfb> Bluewolf: yes but only after properly chrooting to the local install you’re trying to repair
[14:38] <rootkea> leftyfb, ah, never mind.
[14:38] <Bluewolf> leftyfb: I'm just a little unsure of what to do exactly - Reinstall Grub on the right drive with the live disk or just make a complete reinstall?
[14:39] <Bluewolf> I'm not familiar with manually doing grub.
[14:39] <matsaman> Bluewolf: you need to mount a few certain things; I usualy do mount -t proc none /mnt/foo/proc; mount --rbind /dev /mnt/foo/dev; mount --rbind /sys /mnt/foo/sys; chroot /mnt/foo /bin/bash
[14:49] <Bootable> Hello, I am trying to install a Windows dual boot from my Ubuntu laptop. I currently do not have unallocated disk space, so I am not sure how I can partition my drive. I cannot unmount it because it is what I am using to run my computer. Scanning forums for solution, any advice?
[14:51] <eeos> leftyfb: mmmm .... not really! If you name them anyting you want, you get an error.
[14:51] <leftyfb> Bootable: you'll need to boot to a live cd/usb drive and resize your main ubuntu partition to make room for Windows. Mind you, installing Windows after Ubuntu is going to break grub so you'll need to fix grub after you install Windows
[14:51] <eeos> leftyfb: there is clearly a very specific syntax, that is not clearly explained.
[14:52] <leftyfb> eeos: care to share details on the name and error you're referring to?
[14:52] <ozbrk> hi guys I'm writing a simple script to work another computer. But script needs to create two files on the directory of the script so terminal needs to go to directory first. How can I learn a bash scripts current directory with a command?
[14:52] <matsaman> Bootable: it's doable, but simpler if you have an extra storage device
[14:52] <ozbrk> For example on PowerShell $PSScriptroot do the trick
[14:53] <matsaman> Bootable: sure you can't use a VM?
[14:53] <Bootable> I just bought a USB for loading in the Windows ISO, but I can use it for booting and partitioning. I do not know how to boot from a USB and use that to partition a drive, can you point me any resources on that
[14:53] <leftyfb> ozbrk: https://www.tldp.org/LDP/Bash-Beginners-Guide/html/Bash-Beginners-Guide.html
[14:53] <eeos> leftyfb: just create a file called test.test in your /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/ and run apt update and you will see
[14:53] <Bootable> So the reason I am doing this is because I have a Pearson VUE exam tomorrow and I only just discovered that they prohibit the use of Linux.
[14:54] <Bootable> I am wary of using a VM in case they flunk me
[14:54] <eeos> leftyfb: change the name to test.test.save and the error disappears.
[14:54] <ozbrk> leftyfb: man you are a HERO!
[14:54] <eeos> leftyfb: that means there is a specific syntax.
[14:54] <leftyfb> ozbrk: I just googled for "bash basics"
[14:54] <leftyfb> eeos: try test.conf or just test
[14:54] <leftyfb> eeos: also, the contents of said file matter
[14:54] <coconut> Bootable, depends which pc brand you have to boot from usb
[14:54] <leftyfb> eeos: man apt.conf
[14:55] <coconut> Bootable, best is to google a little
[14:55] <Bootable> Is there anything I should install and burn to USB?
[14:55] <Bootable> I am using a HP Spectre
[14:55] <eeos> leftyfb: nope .... i does not matter at all.
[14:56] <eeos> leftyfb: if I change it to .conf, or to .save then it does not return an error, because there is a syntax.
[14:56] <eeos> leftyfb: the syntax is not described in man apt.conf
[14:57] <matsaman> b/lastlog Bootable
[14:57] <matsaman> whoops
[14:57] <leftyfb> eeos: ok, so what is the issue? Just don't specify a suffix or use the ones above. What's the issue?
[14:57] <matsaman> Bootable: pretty unlikely a VM or even custom user agent string wouldn't work, but I appreciate your apprehension
[14:57] <Bootable> If anyone runs Linux and has taken PearsonVUE exams before, I would be more than grateful for an alternative to installing a whole OS
[14:57] <matsaman> Bootable: anyway for dual booting, as lefty said, you just need a suitable live OS
[14:58] <Bootable> matsaman: yeah i'll look into it
[14:58] <matsaman> Bootable: a recent Ubuntu install image live OS should suffice
[14:58] <eeos> leftyfb: the issue is having a documentation that explains the syntax (exactly as in my original question), instead of spending hour with test to understand?
[14:58] <matsaman> Bootable: you need to boot from it, resize one or more of your existing partitions to make enough space for Windows
[14:59] <matsaman> Bootable: then boot a Windows install image, install, then boot your live OS again and fix GRUB for Ubuntu
[14:59] <rootkea> leftyfb, I think eeos is talking about the lack of apt.conf documentation. "Use default sources.list" etc. are workarounds which don't address the issue
[14:59] <eeos> rootkea: exactly
[14:59] <matsaman> Bootable: it's pretty safe but not 100.00% safe, so backup anything you will cry over losing first
[14:59] <Bootable> matsaman: Yeah, I am just having trouble figuring out to partition my drives (using GParted) since my current drive takes up all my space
[14:59] <eeos> rootkea: happy to write the documentation, but cannot go on forever testing all possible unknown options
[14:59] <Bootable> And I can't unmount it when it is active
[14:59] <leftyfb> eeos: https://manpages.debian.org/stretch/apt/apt.conf.5.en.html
[14:59] <Bootable> Yeah I've got everything in the cloud already
[14:59] <matsaman> Bootable: right, you resize it when it isn't active, while the live OS is booted
[15:00] <leftyfb> eeos: "2. all files in Dir::Etc::Parts in alphanumeric ascending order which have either no or "conf" as filename extension and which only contain alphanumeric, hyphen (-), underscore (_) and
[15:00] <leftyfb>            period (.) characters. Otherwise APT will print a notice that it has ignored a file, unless that file matches a pattern in the Dir::Ignore-Files-Silently configuration list - in which
[15:00] <leftyfb>            case it will be silently ignored."
[15:00] <matsaman> Bootable: what's the output  of 'lsblk -f'?
[15:00] <leftyfb> eeos: both the ubuntu and debian man pages explain exactly what you should be using
[15:00] <Bootable> matsaman:
[15:00] <rootkea> eeos, Oops!
[15:01] <Bootable> hang on a sec
[15:01] <Bootable> it's big so i'll just pm you
[15:01] <eeos> leftyfb: nope. If you point me out to it I would be grateful, Having administered system since 1997, I can tell you that IT IS NOT in the man pages.
[15:02] <leftyfb> eeos: really? I gave you a link to the man page and posted here the exact section and content of the man page answering your question. I'm not sure what more you need
[15:03] <eeos> leftyfb: nope. you did not read the question in full, and sent me a link to the wrong man pages.
[15:03] <eeos> leftyfb: I repost .... --> (in particular the structure and the names of files in the /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/ directory) <---
[15:04] <leftyfb> eeos: 1997 huh?
[15:05] <leftyfb> eeos: under the FILES section of the man page .. "/etc/apt/apt.conf.d/"  "APT configuration file fragments. Configuration Item: Dir::Etc::Parts."
[15:06] <leftyfb> which is exactly what the 2. section is referring to ... mentioning file extensions and naming limitations
[15:06] <eeos> leftyfb: fantastic. I can read it. And this is what you call a documentation?And can you explain exactly what that lines says about the NAMES of the files?
[15:07] <leftyfb> eeos: "which only contain alphanumeric, hyphen (-), underscore (_) and period (.) characters"
[15:07] <rootkea> Also "no or "conf" as filename extension."
[15:08] <leftyfb> eeos: and yes, man pages are documentation. Anyone who has "administered system since 1997" would know that
[15:09] <rootkea> eeos, So test.test will be ignored.
[15:09] <eeos> leftyfb: yes, indeed I read that .... can I suggest you go back to the original question? On what planet does that refer to the /etc/apt/apt.conf.d directory, on which there is not documentation?
[15:09] <leftyfb> eeos: please troll elsewhere
[15:10] <rootkea> eeos, That has been answered already.
[15:10] <rootkea> FILES section
[15:10] <leftyfb> rootkea: there's no need to repeat information. They can scroll up
[15:10] <eeos> leftyfb: anyway, this is taking a really annoying turn. So, please do not answer question, if you have no time to answer them properly. If you think this is proper documentation, and answers my question good for you.
[15:11] <MikeRL> I'm getting an error that reads "Object not accessible. The object cannot be accessed due to insufficient user rights." in Libreoffice help.
[15:11] <eeos> leftyfb: I think it is not, and I am happy to amend it, but if you are not interested, good for you.
[15:11] <MikeRL> I think I may be able to resolve it if I was able to reset permissions for my install.
[15:11] <MikeRL> Is there any way to do it? I dual boot and know how to reset permissions on Windows.
[15:11] <MikeRL> And yes I have backups, too.
[15:28] <Led_Zeppelin> Running Ubuntu 20. How do I remove desktop special effects?
[15:30] <Bootable> So was able to get to the GRUB but couldn't find how to boot from USB there, can anyone provide guidance for navigating that? When I went to the BIOS configuration it only let me choose between Ubuntu and Windows boot launches
[15:32] <Led_Zeppelin> if I use fluxbox in Ubuntu. I can't seem to select my monitors. How can I fix that?
[15:32] <eeos> Bootable: did you enable USB booting in BIOS?
[15:37] <Bootable> eeos: Yes made sure that was on
[15:38] <Bootable> Do I need to install anything to my USB drive to make it bootable? It's a Sandisk
[16:04] <eeos> Bootable: you have to mark it bootable, but software such as Rufus should take care of that when you create the bootable USB
[16:17] <arooni> if i run lsblk and i dont see any partitions for a usb western digital passport drive does that mean the drive is dead?  it was formatted as ext4 and was working decently until recently
[16:19] <pavlos> is the drive mounted?
[16:27] <leftyfb> arooni: probably
[16:27] <leftyfb> pavlos: lsblk will show partitions regardless of it being mounted
[16:27] <eeos> arooni: have you tried gparted?
[16:27] <Bootable> I apologize if I missed a response earlier, been rebooting. I am having trouble unmounting my main drive so I can resize it. I booted from my USB drive, but it still mounts and starts processes anyway. I tried killing processes keeping it running, and it crashed my computer.
[16:27] <arooni> eeos: i have ; actually used it to reformat it a few weeks ago
[16:27] <arooni> but i think stuff like
[16:28] <arooni> bunches of "[72543.570078] blk_partition_remap: fail for partition 1" errors don't bode well
[16:28] <leftyfb> Bootable: you do not unmount your system partition to resize while it's running. That's bad. You need to boot to a live cd/usb
[16:28] <eeos> arooni: wohoooo
[16:28] <leftyfb> Bootable: it sounds like you're not actually booting to ub
[16:28] <Bootable> leftyfb: I was under the impression I did boot to my USB from the GRUB
[16:28] <leftyfb> usb*
[16:28] <arooni> eeos: donezo you think?
[16:28] <leftyfb> no
[16:28] <Bootable> That is possible
[16:29] <Bootable> I selected the option but it the whole boot loads as normal
[16:29] <leftyfb> Bootable: you do not boot to usb from grub, not unless you really know what you're doing and have set it up to do so (you haven't)
[16:29] <Bootable> leftyfb: okay i was told to do that earlier, do you have an alternative recommendation?
[16:30] <eeos> arooni: did you make any modifcations to the partition table after you partitioned it with gparted
[16:30] <Bootable> i asked if i needed to configure my usb and i was told no
[16:30] <leftyfb> Bootable: tell your computer BIOS/EFI to boot to USB
[16:30] <eeos> Bootable: there are a couple of nice videos on Youtube .... let me dig them up
[16:30] <Bootable> leftyfb: I did that, there is a second when i do that when it says press any key to boot from Live CD/DVD, after that it boots as normal
[16:30] <leftyfb> arooni: time for a new drive. Restore from backup
[16:31] <eeos> Bootable: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V95s-vxZL3k try this
[16:31] <Bootable> eeos: That would be great, I have been trying to find them. But they all assume I am booting on Windows
[16:31] <leftyfb> Bootable: then it's not booting to the USB. How did you create the USB?
[16:31] <Bootable> leftyfb: I bought it at the store a few hours ago
[16:31] <Bootable> I was told to do nothing else and boot from it
[16:31] <leftyfb> Bootable: you bought a usb drive with ubuntu on it?
[16:31] <Bootable> No just a sandisk
[16:31] <Bootable> I asked if I needed to install the OS
[16:32] <Bootable> I was told it wasn't necessary
[16:32] <leftyfb> :/
[16:32] <eeos> Bootable: you do not boot from windows, as I was telling earlier, you boot from the usb key ....
[16:32] <leftyfb> eeos: please stop, you're not helping
[16:32] <eeos> Bootable: it is not, if the distribution is a Live version
[16:32] <eeos> leftyfb: sorry?
[16:32] <leftyfb> Bootable: you need to flash an Ubuntu iso to that usb drive. There is nothing on the drive
[16:32] <arooni> eeos:no i did not make any changes to the partition table;  leftyfb thats what i was thinking too :(.  good thing this is just a drive for downloaded video content and i dont really need a backup for it
[16:33] <leftyfb> Bootable: in Ubuntu, there is a utility called "Startup Disk Creator" ... you'll need to go download an ubuntu live iso for it to write to the usb
[16:34] <Bootable> leftyfb: Okay thank you
[16:34] <Bootable> leftyfb: My end goal here is to just have a Windows OS I can boot into to take a Pearson VUE exam, so I am trying to install a dual boot
[16:34] <Bootable> Are you aware of faster options
[16:35] <leftyfb> Bootable: you were also offered the option of running a VM
[16:35] <leftyfb> Bootable: also, what says you need Windows to take the exam?
[16:35] <Bootable> Yes I wasn't sure if that was a safe option
[16:35] <eeos> arooni: some times, you can try to fix individual blocks by hand .... it is quite a painful process, and only useful if the disk contains really valuable stuff. Booting from a forensic distribution like Kali?
[16:35] <leftyfb> Bootable: https://itsfoss.com/install-windows-10-virtualbox-linux/
[16:35] <Bootable> Their software documentation after I purchased the exam. I contacted their customer service and they told me Linux was prohibited and liable for cancellation without refund
[16:36] <Bootable> https://home.pearsonvue.com/op/OnVUE-min-specs-Network-Admin-Requirements
[16:36] <rootkea> Hi! How do I get a list of all the packages from any particular section e.g. all (installed or not) contrib packages. Thanks!
[16:36] <merpnderp> What's the best way to install nginx and psql?
[16:36] <leftyfb> rootkea: apt list --installed  (not sure about separate repo's)
[16:36] <merpnderp> To get automatic security updates.
[16:36] <leftyfb> merpnderp: apt install <package name>
[16:37] <merpnderp> leftyfb: just use the normal repos?
[16:37] <leftyfb> merpnderp: yes
[16:37] <merpnderp> leftyfb: thanks
[16:37] <leftyfb> merpnderp: preferably on an LTS release of Ubunt
[16:37] <leftyfb> Ubuntu*
[16:38] <merpnderp> It's just been a long time and I don't know if I'm supposed to use snap, add a special app specific repo or something else.
[16:38] <merpnderp> Like node has a specific repair for it
[16:38] <leftyfb> merpnderp: for the best support here, install from apt
[16:38] <eeos> rootkea: you can use a command like dpkg-query -W -f='${Section}\t${Package}\n' | grep ^non-free
[16:39] <rootkea> leftyfb, umm al the packages not just installed
[16:39] <eeos> rootkea: if you need to list only contrib then, dpkg-query -W -f='${Section}\t${Package}\n' | grep ^contrib
[16:39] <rootkea> eeos, That only gives installed packages. I want *all* the packages
[16:40] <leftyfb> rootkea: btw, contrib is not an ubuntu repo
[16:40] <leftyfb> nor is non-free
[16:40] <rootkea> Correct. As I said, they are sections
[16:40] <leftyfb> rootkea: not in ubuntu they aren't. contrib and non-free are Debian
[16:42] <theelous3> hey. I migrated a 20.4 server from one box to another through a network /mnt rsync
[16:42] <theelous3> I am unable to connect to the new server (however I can get to it through host's control panel terminal)
[16:42] <leftyfb> rootkea: apt list
[16:43] <rootkea> leftyfb, Thanks. I'll be right back. gotta go
[16:43] <theelous3> could someone help me reconfigure the network here? note, I was using this guide: https://docs.hetzner.com/cloud/servers/how-to-migrate-vservers-to-cloud/
[16:43] <leftyfb> theelous3: contact your host for support
[16:43] <theelous3> it's not a host for support kinda problem though, it's a matter of config on the sys
[16:44] <leftyfb> theelous3: ok, is ssh running on the system?
[16:45] <leftyfb> theelous3: sudo lsof -i :22
[16:45] <leftyfb> theelous3: I assume by "connect to the new server" you're referring to ssh
[16:48] <rootkea> leftyfb, After turning on "http://ddebs.ubuntu.com/ubuntu focal-updates" check `apt show zfs-test-dbgsym`. It shows section as contrib/debug
[16:48] <theelous3> leftyfb: yeah ssh running
[16:48] <theelous3> and yeah that's what I was getting at
[16:48] <leftyfb> theelous3: please pastebin the error you're getting when you try to ssh in
[16:49] <rootkea> BTW I only have main and universe
[16:49] <rootkea> Here's my sources.list https://pastebin.com/raw/CzQuttsP
[16:49] <leftyfb> rootkea: that description comes from Debian and does not apply to Ubuntu as far as "contrib" is concerned
[16:50] <theelous3> leftyfb: ssh: connect to host 168.119.55.162 port 22: Resource temporarily unavailable
[16:50] <rootkea> leftyfb, Should this be filed as a bug then?
[16:50] <leftyfb> theelous3: future reference, please pastebin and not paraphrase when asked
[16:50] <theelous3> it's one line :/
[16:50] <theelous3> it's the entire thing
[16:50] <theelous3> not paraphrased
[16:51] <leftyfb> theelous3: sorry, I should have asked for ssh -v .... regardless, can you confirm that the above ip is active on the machine and ssh is listening on that ip?
[16:53] <leftyfb> theelous3: also, try flushing iptables: sudo iptables -F
[16:54] <theelous3> for ref: https://dpaste.com/EEN9T77VC
[16:54] <theelous3> checking ip info now
[16:54] <theelous3> having difficulty as the sys is using a foreign kb layout, will be slow to respond :)
[16:55] <leftyfb> theelous3: wait, you followed instructions on moving this to ... "cloud" ... what service exactly? Are you sure whatever provider to moved this to allows ssh? Do they have a default firewall that's out of band that you have to configure?
[16:55] <theelous3> it's from hetzner to hetzner
[16:56] <theelous3> they had an old "vps" service, on which I've had a server for years
[16:56] <theelous3> they discontinued those, but left them alive
[16:56] <theelous3> I am migrating it to their "cloud" service, which is much better value
[16:56] <theelous3> so just another vps
[16:57] <leftyfb> theelous3: ok, that doesn't tell us much about the underlying technology which can definitely make a difference. You really should contact them for support on this. I can almost guarantee from that error it's out of band
[16:58] <rootkea> Let me paraphrase: How do I get a list of *all* the universe packages? Getting package list by section/component.
[16:58] <eeos> rootkea: can you install on your machine?
[16:58] <rootkea> what can I install?
[16:59] <theelous3> leftyfb: what particulars would be helpful? I'm sure I can find out
[16:59] <eeos> rootkea: can you install new software, or are you only a user?
[16:59] <eeos> rootkea: if you can install, then the quickest way is
[16:59] <eeos> rootkea: apt install dctrl-tools
[16:59] <leftyfb> theelous3: tell them the error you are getting
[16:59] <theelous3> like, the migration is basically a massive copypaste from a mounted sda from old to new
[16:59] <eeos> rootkea: and then you can use
[16:59] <Ben64> I changed /etc/pulse/daemon.conf to allow 6 channel audio, and got 5.1 surround working great immediately after. I was able to select 5.1 output on hdmi. But after going to bed and waking up, that option is just gone, and a reboot hasn't brought it back. How can I get my 5.1 back?
[16:59] <theelous3> so some config of the old, is not working on the new, given it's a new box with different ips and so on
[16:59] <rootkea> eeos, Oh I can install packages
[17:00] <eeos> rootkea: grep-aptavail -n -F Section -s Package nameofthesection
[17:00] <eeos> rootkea: does it make sense?
[17:00] <theelous3> fairly sure if I can nail down which configs need to be modified, it'll work
[17:00] <rootkea> let me try. Thanks! eeos
[17:00] <eeos> rootkea: grep-aptavail is very powerful
[17:00] <leftyfb> theelous3: can you ssh from the localhost on the machine to the localhost on the machine?
[17:01] <eeos> rootkea: I suggest you pip it into sort -u, so you have all unique names
[17:01] <eeos> rootkea: for example grep-aptavail -n -F Section -s Package graphics | sort -u
[17:01] <eeos> rootkea: for all the packages in the graphics section. OK?
[17:01] <eeos> rootkea: I have to go now .... good luck with it.
[17:01] <seanbright> anyone know when focal will be available with do-release-upgrade?
[17:02] <leftyfb> seanbright: we have no way of knowing. I assumed it would be ready by now. Just have to wait longer
[17:02] <eeos> seanbright: you can do do-release-upgrade -d (at your own peril) if you need. :-)
[17:03] <seanbright> eh. i'll just reinstall.
[17:03] <seanbright> thanks folks
[17:03] <leftyfb> theelous3: if you can ssh from localhost to the same machine, then try ssh'ing from the server to it's ip address you posted above
[17:04] <theelous3> yeah just struggling to get an @ symbol here :)
[17:04] <leftyfb> theelous3: if the latter does not work, then the issue is either ssh not listening on that ip/interface or a firewall (did you flush iptables) our an out of band issue related to your host provider
[17:05] <theelous3> I flused yes
[17:05] <theelous3> flushed*
[17:14] <theelous3> leftyfb: sshd listening to ipv4/ipv6 on *:22
[17:14] <theelous3> so i guess that's that
[17:16] <leftyfb> theelous3: what about the rest of the tests?
[17:16] <theelous3> oh, I thought I sent a message, weird
[17:17] <theelous3> yeah ssh'd to localhost from the machine
[17:17] <theelous3> could not to the ip
[17:17] <theelous3> so, the case of the latter not working
[17:17] <leftyfb> you're 100% sure that is the ip of the machine?
[17:17] <theelous3> absolutely certain
[17:18] <leftyfb> theelous3: on the machine run: ip a
[17:19] <theelous3> stupid weird interface has no scrollback
[17:20] <theelous3> and can't be pasted from
[17:20] <theelous3> screenshot: https://i.gyazo.com/2f24f5f82e5696c68038fca14ad2a421.png
[17:20] <gebbione> asked the same on linux channel, i hope it is ok here- > hi, i am trying to install openCV to use it with yolo, but when i try to run make I am always getting errors - https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/zRzH4pdQr2/ ... is it failing in combining a viz module of some sorts I think but not sure on how to fix this
[17:20] <leftyfb> theelous3: the 168 ip does not show in that screenshot
[17:21] <theelous3> is behind a nat
[17:21] <gebbione> sed /combining/compiling/
[17:21] <theelous3> so we wouldn't expect to see it right?
[17:21] <leftyfb> theelous3: and there is your problem, the host provider, not the server
[17:21] <leftyfb> theelous3: your NAT forward is probably still pointing to the ip of the old machine
[17:22] <leftyfb> theelous3: either way, contact your host provider for support
[17:23] <lesshaste> could anyone tell me what color the vertical line is in https://imgur.com/a/ZA0EW6G ? I tried grabc but it doesn't seem to work for me
[17:23] <theelous3> leftyfb: oh, ha, wtf
[17:23] <leftyfb> !ot | lesshaste
[17:23] <theelous3> yeah I just wget on ipecho service, it returned addr of my old server
[17:24] <theelous3> so you're on the money it seems
[17:24] <lesshaste> leftyfb,  I guess me ubuntu question is why does grabc always return #030003 no matter where I click
[17:24] <lesshaste> my ubuntu
[17:25] <leftyfb> lesshaste: grabc shows me #afbf7f
[17:31] <pavlos> lesshaste: I get #009980 for the green vertical line
[17:48] <Ben64> ok, fixed my surround sound
[17:48] <tatertotz> yay
[17:48] <Ben64> it was getting the edid from the monitor instead of the receiver, and thinking it could only do 2.0
[17:49] <rap-god> hi ppl
[17:49] <rap-god> sudo apt remove sudo
[17:49] <Ben64> ???
[17:49] <rap-god> idk
[17:49] <leftyfb> rap-god: can we help you with something?
[17:50] <rap-god> i am trying to uninstall system32
[17:50] <leftyfb> rap-god: trolling is offtopic here. Try #freenode
[17:50] <tatertotz> rap-god: join #system32
[17:51] <rap-god> i just installed irssi and i dont know what the hell i am doing
[17:51] <leftyfb> rap-god: this is a support channel. Please take it elsewhere
[17:51] <rap-god> hmm is there sth like #arch ?
[17:51] <leftyfb> !alis | rap-god
[17:52] <leftyfb> rap-god: good luck
[17:54] <alch3mist> Hi all, how can I check a list of GPG keys on my machine? *n00b question*
[17:55] <leftyfb> alch3mist: apt-get list # will list the keys for apt repos
[17:55] <leftyfb> alch3mist: other than that, it depends on the programs that are utilizing keys.
[17:56] <alch3mist> tnx leftyfb, if I delete a repo would the keys get deleted automatically too?
[17:56] <leftyfb> alch3mist: I don't think so. Maybe look at ppa-purge
[17:56] <alch3mist> so I added a repo installed the program I wanted, didn't like it, deleted the program and ppa and now want to make sure the key is also removed
[17:56] <alch3mist> oh ok
[17:56] <alch3mist> let me check those
[17:56] <alch3mist> tnx
[17:57] <leftyfb> alch3mist: leaving the key there doesn't hurt anything
[17:57] <pavlos> alch3mist: apt-key list
[17:57] <leftyfb> pavlos: I already said that
[18:00] <Bluewolf> Hi. Can someone just give me confirmation for partition sizes for a fresh installation - '/boot    –     2048MB' and 'Swap    –     4048MB' and '/            –     30000MB'?
[18:01] <pavlos> leftyfb: you wrote "apt-get list # will list the keys for apt repos" ... it should be apt-key list
[18:01] <sarnold> Bluewolf: that seems like a lot of space for swap to me; one or two gigs is probably fine
[18:01] <leftyfb> pavlos: ugh, sorry, my bad
[18:02] <leftyfb> pavlos: muscle memory :)
[18:02] <Bluewolf> sarnold: I've 16GB ram
[18:02] <Ben64> I think the default now is to use swap files instead of a partition, and unless you really need a separate /boot i wouldn't
[18:02] <sarnold> Bluewolf: normally it's not worth hassling too much about one or two gigs here or there, but only 30g for / feels tight enough that another two gigs there would be welcome :)
[18:03] <leftyfb> Bluewolf: these days just picking the default and not manually partitioning is fine for most
[18:03] <Bluewolf> sarnold: I have a 480GB  hard drive and I'm not familiar with the manual setting.
[18:03] <Bluewolf> leftyfb: I have to do it manually because I've two drives, one with Windows 10 and the other for Ubuntu
[18:04] <Bluewolf> So I need to do that for a dual boot
[18:04] <Ben64> you shouldn't have to
[18:04] <sarnold> Bluewolf: on my 16g laptops, I've got 2gb swap; on my machine with 128g ram, I've got 6gb swap; on my 1g rpi3b+, I've got no swap, because sd cards are crap :)
[18:04] <leftyfb> Bluewolf: remove the Windows drive and install Ubuntu. Then put the drive back and update grub
[18:05] <Bluewolf> leftyfb: Are you prepared to help me through a grub update?
[18:05] <leftyfb> Bluewolf: sudo update-grub
[18:06] <Bluewolf> leftyfb: Hold up. My Windows drive is the primary drive, does the boot loader not have to be on it?
[18:06] <leftyfb> Bluewolf: you could set the ubuntu drive to be primary
[18:07] <leftyfb> Bluewolf: and leave the Windows drive untouched
[18:07] <Bluewolf> leftyfb: In my experience with dual boots - Windows always had issues with Linux being the primary. So I've always done it with Windows as primary.
[18:08] <leftyfb> Bluewolf: you should be fine
[18:08] <Bluewolf> I don't know if things change with newer hardware and software
[18:08] <alch3mist> sry, got disconnected. leftyfb, what was the command to check keys again?
[18:08] <conr> whats the best way to move subdirectories with files into other subdirectories with files? rsync?
[18:08] <leftyfb> alch3mist: apt-key list
[18:08] <rap-god> i gues rsync
[18:08] <rap-god> guess*
[18:08] <leftyfb> conr: yes
[18:09] <alch3mist> tnx, leftfb
[18:09] <rootkea> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Debug%20Symbol%20Packages#Getting_-dbgsym.ddeb_packages talks about dbgsym repo for focal, focal-updates and focal-proposed. Is there a dbgsym repo for focal-backports and focal-security as well? If not then shouldn't there be?
[18:09] <Bluewolf> leftyfb: I'm in a live bootable usb now - Do I just run "sudo update-grub" - My windows drive is plugged in?
[18:09] <conr> `rsync -zvh --remove-srouce-files`
[18:09] <leftyfb> Bluewolf: I would physically remove the Windows drive and install Ubuntu first
[18:10] <Bluewolf> leftyfb: What's your reasoning though?
[18:10] <Ben64> yeah that's usually the most reliable
[18:10] <sarnold> rootkea: packages from -security are copied into -updates eventually, it should be covered; -backports, no idea :/
[18:10] <leftyfb> Bluewolf: no chance for error
[18:10] <Bluewolf> leftyfb: Do I leave the windows drive in the first sata slot as well?
[18:11] <Bluewolf> Ubuntu in the second?
[18:11] <Ben64> you can plug it back in wherever it was
[18:11] <Bluewolf> leftyfb: Then install and add it in after?
[18:11] <leftyfb> Bluewolf: yes. Then set the Ubuntu drive as primary, then boot to your ubuntu install and run sudo update-grub
[18:12] <rootkea> sarnold, I see. Thanks! In focal-backports I see cockpit-* packages. Where are their respective dbgsym packages?
[18:13] <Bluewolf> leftyfb: That simple. I run this in the newly installed OS or off the live drive?
[18:13] <leftyfb> Bluewolf: as I mentioned, "then boot to your ubuntu install and run sudo update-grub"
[18:13] <Bluewolf> leftyfb: Also what about the old boot menu on the windows drive?
[18:16] <leftyfb> Bluewolf: it won't really matter. Ubuntu should add Windows to it's grub list and boot to it when selected
[18:18] <Bluewolf> leftyfb: Okay I understand. Just to add context. My drives aren't plugged into sata 0 and 1 - Because my board supports legacy or something like that. It was recomended that I place them in the ports at the bottom of the board. The changes should still be fine?
[18:18] <Bluewolf> *recommended
[18:21] <conr> still having trouble, `dir1/dir1/text1.txt` to `dir2/dir1/text2.txt`
[18:21] <Bluewolf> leftyfb: Or Just reinstall. Select "Something Else" set the boot menu to the right drive and continue. I just lack a little confidence :D
[18:21] <conr> how can i move everything under `dir1/` to `dir2/`?
[18:32] <Diatrix> Hello, can anyone help me with an issue I'm having? It has to do with upgrading to 20.04 from 18.04. Thank you
[18:33] <Diatrix> This is my ask ubuntu question:https://askubuntu.com/questions/1266363/i-tried-upgrading-to-ubuntu-20-04-from-18-04-using-do-release-upgrade-but-it-go?noredirect=1#comment2143323_1266363
[18:34] <lotuspsychje> !info libgl-dev bionic
[18:36] <lotuspsychje> !info libgl-dev focal
[18:36] <Diatrix> I think i screwed up initally when I ctrl + C out of the installation, but now I don't know how to fix it... :/
[18:37] <sarnold> Diatrix: oh wow that's an unhappy place to be :(
[18:37] <sarnold> Diatrix: if, at that moment of ^C, you'd changed the configuration back to bionic from focal, and re-run, it would have been pretty easy
[18:38] <conr> ll
[18:38] <sarnold> Diatrix: and that might still be the easiest way out of this, but .. it might not be, too.
[18:38] <Diatrix> How would I do that?
[18:39] <Diatrix> I screwed up when upgrading then?
[18:42] <sarnold> Diatrix: yeah, that ^C was a bad idea :(
[18:42] <sarnold> Diatrix: just quitting the pager with 'q' would have been a lot easier
[18:42] <tripleb> Hello after installing stickynotes from the snap store  (stickynotes 0.4.0 from Playork installed) I was told this: WARNING: There is 1 new warning. See 'snap warnings'.And then: last occurrence 27 daya ago...snap "Chromium" has bad plgs WARNING: There is 1 new warning. See 'snap warnings'. ---What am I to do with this unclear information.
[18:43] <tripleb> bad plUg
[18:43] <sarnold> Diatrix: so.. try: sudo sed -i 's/focal/bionic/' /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*list
[18:43] <tripleb> I am going to ignore it unless ??
[18:43] <sarnold> tripleb: ignore it for now
[18:43] <tripleb> thanks sarnold.
[18:44] <Diatrix> sarnold: Ok, now what?
[18:44] <tripleb> sarnold this confused me even more. Gossip-gossip  https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23052108
[18:45] <tripleb> just fyi
[18:45] <Diatrix> sarnlod: Ok the sources list are back to bionic
[18:45] <Diatrix> sarnold *
[18:47] <Diatrix> there are A LOT of them though. 92 of them
[18:47] <sarnold> Diatrix: alright, try an apt update && apt full-upgrade and see where that gets you ..
[18:49] <Diatrix> ok, i tried it, but when doing apt full-upgrade, it still gives me the unmet dependencies problem from the libgl-dev, and libglx-dev packages
[18:49] <Diatrix> seems like libglx-dev is not installable...
[18:50] <alch3mist> hey all, I have a logitech mouse/keyboard combo, the touchpad is really sensitive under ubuntu and everytime I want to use the scroll gesture (2 finger swipe) it confuses it with pich to zoom, is there a way to disable pinch to zoom on touchpads or change sensitivity?
[18:50] <sarnold> Diatrix: it might be worth trying to uninstall whatever depends upon that package
[18:50] <Diatrix> ok, it seems like i fixed it
[18:51] <Diatrix> i ran sudo apt --fix-broken install, and it fixed it.
[18:51] <sarnold> nice nice
[18:51] <Diatrix> It wouldn't fix it before
[18:51] <sarnold> now try the apt full-upgrade and see where that leaves you
[18:51] <Diatrix> now I ran sudo apt full-upgrade, and no new packages were installed
[18:51] <sorcerer> oh --fix-broken install huh
[18:51] <Diatrix> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove, - not upgraded
[18:52] <sorcerer> i like that never knew about it
[18:52] <Diatrix> It suggested it in the error
[18:52] <sorcerer> ohhh nice
[18:52] <sorcerer> new feature? i dont remember seeing that come up before, ever.
[18:52] <Diatrix> should i run do-release-upgrade again?
[18:52] <sorcerer> or maybe my stuff hasnt been broke enough yet haha
[18:52] <Diatrix> i think it's the same as apt install -f
[18:53] <Diatrix> just verbose
[18:53] <sorcerer> oh ok
[18:53] <sorcerer> that makes sense then ;p
[18:53] <lotuspsychje> Diatrix: apt policy showed libgl-dev not installed on my 20.04
[18:53] <sorcerer> im still a half noob on linux/ubuntu
[18:53] <sorcerer> still learning :)
[18:54] <sorcerer> but im so devoted these days i got 5+ computers running linux
[18:54] <Diatrix> hey, you're better than me xD
[18:54] <lotuspsychje> Diatrix: see bug #1878597
[18:54] <sorcerer> i just bought a asus vivobook14 with ryzen 3
[18:54] <sorcerer> i instantly removed windows and installed kubuntu
[18:54] <lotuspsychje> sorcerer: lets keep it ontopic please
[18:54] <lotuspsychje> !discuss | sorcerer feel free
[18:55] <S3xyL1nux> so every time my laptop battery got bellow 10% the whole thing got extremely slow . how to disable this
[18:56] <S3xyL1nux> i did ask this question a billion times and no body dare to give an answer
[18:56] <sarnold> Diatrix: excellent! then I think you're good to go with the do-release-upgrade again :)
[18:57] <Diatrix> lotuspsychje: I'm not sure how that bug relates
[18:57] <Diatrix> but it goes over my head for the most part
[18:57] <Diatrix> sarnold I will try
[18:57] <Diatrix> !discuss
[18:58] <lotuspsychje> Diatrix: the dupe seems right what you are experience to me, bug #1880108
[18:58] <Diatrix> what does dupe mean? lotuspsychje
[18:58] <lotuspsychje> Diatrix: the duplicate bug
[18:59] <Diatrix> oh
[19:00] <Diatrix> what was the graphical interface command for do-release-upgrade again?
[19:02] <tomreyn> update-manager -c
[19:04] <Diatrix> ok, i'm trying again, wish me luck! xD
[19:05] <sarnold> \o/
[19:05] <lotuspsychje> luck!
[19:05] <Diatrix> Thank you so much for the help by the way!
[19:06] <tomreyn> you might want to remove thos exenial apt sources beforehand
[19:12] <Diatrix> too late... But i think they were removed by the command Ok, I fixed the dependency problem by reverting to the Bionic source list. To do that I ran:    sudo sed -i 's/focal/bionic/' /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*list
[19:12] <Diatrix> whoops, i accidentally copied too much of the message
[19:13] <Diatrix>  sudo sed -i 's/focal/bionic/' /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*list
[19:13] <Diatrix> this comand
[19:13] <Diatrix> tomereyn
[19:13] <Diatrix> tomreyn*
[19:13] <Diatrix> *sigh* I'm bad at IRC
[19:14] <sarnold> Diatrix: most irc clients let you type a few characters of someone's name and hit tab to complete the rest
[19:14] <Diatrix> TIL, thanks sarnold
[19:14] <sarnold> now you know irc! :D
[19:14] <FingerlessGloves> If there a lighter install of Ubuntu server without it installing cloud-init etc?
[19:19] <pikapika> >sudo debootstrap --variant=buildd --arch i386 lucid /var/chroot/ http://mirror.url.com/ubuntu/
[19:19] <pikapika> So the recommended solution does a fresh download and install of Ubuntu inside a chroot?
[19:19] <pikapika> Is it not recommended to just copy relevant system files inside the chroot instead?
[19:21] <tomreyn> recommended by whom, where, for which use case?
[19:21] <pikapika> The Ubuntu wiki
[19:21] <tomreyn> the ubuntu wiki use case?
[19:21] <pikapika> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicChroot
[19:22] <pikapika> Construction of a chroot jail to install some applications in
[19:22] <tomreyn> you may want to use lxc or docker for this if you'll run it regularly
[19:23] <pikapika> Well I only need to do this once tbh but I'll look into those solutions too
[19:23] <tomreyn> if this is a one-time test or build environment, a chroot with debootstrap is fine. there's also sbuild, i think
[19:24] <pikapika> Well it will be created once but the programs installed inside would be used daily
[19:26] <tomreyn> this sounds like a docker like use case
[19:27] <pikapika> Is docker lighter compared to a vm?
[19:27] <tomreyn> it's a container system, so yes
[19:28] <pikapika> so does it use the host kernel and system files or does it pacakge with its own of these?
[19:28] <tomreyn> you seem to be trying to setup a software development pipeline.
[19:28] <pikapika> Presently its not for dev, but that is something I might need to do later too
[19:28] <pikapika> so is docker the recommended solution for these?
[19:28] <tomreyn> containers share the host kernel, yes
[19:29] <tomreyn> i didn't mean to make a recommendation
[19:29] <pikapika> oh
[19:29] <tomreyn> not for docker over lxc anyways.
[19:29] <pikapika> you think lxc is better?
[19:30] <sarnold> and by "docker" I think most people mean "runc" or something similar instead of actual docker docker
[19:30] <tomreyn> but certainly for containers over VM if you're just building software
[19:30] <pikapika> Oh
[19:30] <tomreyn> for recommendations and discussion you could try #ubuntu-discuss
[19:30] <pikapika> Then lxc it is
[19:30] <pikapika> Thanks
[19:41] <pikapika> >The download template will show you a list of distributions, versions and architectures to choose from. A good example would be "ubuntu", "bionic" (18.04 LTS) and "i386".
[19:41] <pikapika> How big is the download usually?
[19:42] <sarnold> a few hundred megabytes
[19:42] <pikapika> Oh, nice
[19:42] <pikapika> Thought it'd do a download equivalent to a full distro
[19:43] <pikapika> >i386
[19:43] <pikapika> is it not preferred to do a 64 bit version?
[19:44] <sarnold> it depends entirely on what you're going to run; if it only exists in 32 bit versions then that's what you're stuck using
[19:44] <pikapika> 32 bit isn't a necessity for me
[19:44] <sarnold> yeah then go 64 bit, you'll probably get more performance, and the extra address space for ASLR is nice even if your process is never going to grow above 2 gigs memory use :)
[20:27] <lamiastella> what is the best and easiest way to convert a wmv video to gif (hopefully using terminal) in Ubuntu?
[20:34] <Bootable> Hey, I was here earlier, trying to reinstall a Windows dual boot alongside Ubuntu. I have Windows loaded into a bootable USB stick using UNetBootin, but when I launch into the Grub, it does not recognize my USB as bootable. I went into the HP BIOS and disabled secure boot, enabled legacy boot, moved usb to the top of the priority list and tried
[20:34] <Bootable> various combinations. The USB is not showing up from the boot menu though, any recommendations?
[20:34] <pikapika> How big is the video lamiastella ? Have you tried ffmpeg?
[20:35] <pikapika> Bootable, grub only shows already installed OSes
[20:35] <pikapika> You need to change boot order to boot from the USB
[20:35] <pikapika> (this would be done in the BIOS)
[20:35] <Bootable> pikapika: Yeah I placed it at the top in the BIOS but it does not seem to be taking
[20:35] <Bootable> I have been following this guide: https://www.groovypost.com/howto/dual-boot-windows-10-linux/
[20:35] <pikapika> Oh, strange
[20:35] <Deano59> Use Rufus, unetbootin is crappy.
[20:36] <Bootable> I was not able to find a version of Rufus that works with Ubuntu
[20:37] <Bootable> Is there a command line prompt I can use to verify the USB is actually loaded in correctly
[20:37] <Bootable> I do think Deano might be right
[20:38] <pikapika> Bootable, I think with cfdisk you can check if a partition has been marked as bootable or not
[20:38] <Bootable> pikapika: Would a bootable USB drive be a USB Hard Drive or USB Disk
[20:38] <pikapika> uh...you usually use a usb stick for this...why are you trying to use an external hard disk?
[20:39] <Deano59> Bootable: use woeusb if you're wanting a Windows usb boot.
[20:39] <pikapika> Bootable, also ask in ##windows
[20:39] <Bootable> pikapika: Stick, I picked Hard Drive but I want to be absolutely sure in case the stick qualifies as a disc somehow
[20:39] <pikapika> What program?
[20:40] <Deano59> Nothing else will work for a Windows usb boot.
[20:40] <Bootable> Deano59: I spent an hour today trying to install WoeUSB but it's very broken and I couldn't get it even after the tweaks on GitHub
[20:40] <Deano59> There's a ppa for it.... Works here.
[20:40] <Bootable> Deano59: A ppa would be great let me try finding it
[20:41] <pikapika> Bootable, https://www.groovypost.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/Step-2-Unetbootin.png
[20:41] <Deano59> There's a snap version too.
[20:41] <pikapika> The example picture in the article selected Usb Drive option
[20:41] <Deano59> pikapika: it won't work with windows.
[20:42] <pikapika> Oh
[20:43] <Deano59> I learned the hard way, woeusb is the go to if you're on Linux. Windows it's Rufus.
[20:43] <Bootable> Deano59: Just wondering is NTFS or FAT preferable in this situation
[20:43] <Deano59> NTFS iirc
[20:44] <Bootable> Downloaded from snap and finally working, would have thought the snap store would have better seo
[20:44] <Deano59> It's been a while since I used it.
[20:45] <Deano59> You need to format your usb to NTFS for woeusb to work.
[20:45] <Bootable> Okay same error as before, exit code 256: unmount all mounted partitions in targeted device
[20:45] <Deano59> Idk then, sorry.
[20:45] <Bootable> Hang on, formatting is different now let me try unmounting, hopefully not the same issue
[20:46] <Bootable> I have a Pearson VUE proctoring exam tomorrow, and they won't let me use Linux
[20:46] <Bootable> It's been 7 hours of trying to figure out how to install Windows, and running to the store for a new USB haha
[20:46] <matsaman> yeah woeusb is pretty painless
[20:47] <matsaman> again you can technically boot a Windows install image from the internal storage / disk via GRUB, but you'll want at least one USB stick for your live Ubuntu OS anyway, probably
[20:48] <matsaman> can't really have too many USB sticks, though =)
[20:49] <Bootable> Yeah I know you were helping me out earlier, but I still can't get the Windows ISO install to show up in the boot menu
[20:49] <Bootable> I was able to get an Ubuntu install to show up and create Ubuntu-Ubuntu dual boot
[20:49] <Bootable> But for whatever reason Windows isn't happening
[20:51] <matsaman> it's a little more complicated, for sure
[20:52] <FaTaL_GG> 4444
[20:53] <Deano59> Ideally you need a laptop or something with windows then use Rufus. Do you have anyone that can help? Brother etc?
[20:54] <Bootable> Just moved to a new city recently, person I am renting from is out of town until after the exam unfortunately
[20:54] <Bootable> So many little things lining up in the wrong way, as happens
[20:55] <Deano59> Go to a internet cafe lol
[20:55] <Bootable> Found a fix for the error I received though, so WoeUSB is running right now, fingers crosse
[20:55] <Deano59> Good luck.
[20:55] <Bootable> Apparently Disk Manager doesn't unmount it properly enough for WoeUSB had to use GPart
[20:55] <Bootable> Thanks, appreciate it
[20:59] <Comnenus> How can I seal a 20.04 VM so that /etc/machine-id and ssh host keys get regenerated?
[21:00] <Comnenus> Right now, looks like /etc/machine-id regenerates to identical IDs, ssh keys do not get regenerated at all, and the dhcp lease is identical.  Which I mean, it is a clone...  but that's not quite what I want.
[21:02] <Guest34> Fuck
[21:02] <Guest34> Fuck
[21:02] <Guest34> Fuck
[21:02] <Guest34> Fuck
[21:02] <Guest34> Fuck
[21:03] <pikapika> lol
[21:03] <pikapika> Was that Bootable after erasing his system by mistke?
[21:03] <pikapika> Should have just tried setting up a windows vm or something first idk
[21:05] <pikapika> Let us hope not
[21:05] <Guest34> yee
[21:05] <leftyfb> Guest34: can we help you with something?
[21:06] <Maik> Guest34: mind to stop fooling around please and mind your language. Thanks in advance
[21:06] <igflavius_> [mattermost] <igflavius> test
[21:06] <leftyfb> Comnenus: delete /etc/machine-id and /var/lib/dbus/machine-id
[21:06] <leftyfb> igflavius_: can we help you with something?
[21:07] <igflavius_> [mattermost] <igflavius> no, tnx ;d
[21:08] <leftyfb> igflavius_: please don't use this channel for testing. And please don't talk through proxy nicks. It gets real annoying and confusing
[21:09] <Comnenus> leftyfb: after deleting those two files and rebooting, I'm stuck on a start job with no limit for network.  Maybe not stuck, but I'm a minute and a half in.
[21:09] <leftyfb> Comnenus: unrelated
[21:09] <Comnenus> oh
[21:10] <leftyfb> Comnenus: /var/lib/dbus/machine-id is just a symlink to /etc/machine-id. Both get regenerated at boot
[21:12] <Comnenus> leftyfb: it didn't regenerate /etc/machine-id
[21:13] <leftyfb> Comnenus: https://unix.stackexchange.com/a/403054
[21:14] <Comnenus> thanks!
[21:14] <leftyfb> Comnenus: https://jaylacroix.com/fixing-ubuntu-18-04-virtual-machines-that-fight-over-the-same-ip-address/
[21:56] <Diatrix> I forgot the usernames, but thank you for helping me earlier with the ubuntu 20.04 upgrade. I solved the issue thanks to you guys and now 20.04 is up and running!
[21:56] <faceface> hello
[21:57] <Diatrix> <3
[21:57] <faceface> I'm running Ubuntu 18.04.5 LTS
[21:58] <oerheks> Diatrix, have fun!
[21:58] <faceface> Looking at apache, it says it's running "MPM: prefork", but when I look here: https://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.4/mpm.html it says, "In practical terms, this means that the default will almost always be event, as all modern operating systems support these two features"
[21:58] <faceface> The two features in question are threads and thread-safe polling
[21:59] <faceface> so not sure why apache is using 'prefork' mpm
[22:00] <faceface> (the choices are prefork, event and worker)
[22:00] <faceface> anyone know why mpm is prefork on 18.04?
[22:14] <kre10> hey guys, how are you? Can you please help me with something. By my mistake, I added 2 eth0 address on my ubuntu 64 server(raspberry pi 4). And now I have 2 eth0 addresses which is very confusing.
[22:14] <sarnold> how did you add it? what would you like to do?
[22:15] <kre10> thank you for reaching out, sarnold
[22:16] <kre10> sudo dhclient -r
[22:16] <kre10>  and sudo dhclient
[22:21] <sarnold> kre10: how many dhclients do you have running?
[22:21] <kre10> I don't know, really.
[22:21] <kre10> I get IP lease by dhcp from the router
[22:22] <sarnold> try sudo ps auxw | grep dhclient
[22:22] <kre10> zzlatev     9399  0.0  0.0   7684   668 pts/0    S+   01:22   0:00 grep --color=auto dhclient
[22:23] <sarnold> no running dhclients?
[22:23] <sarnold> curious
[22:23] <sarnold> I thought it would stay running..
[22:24] <sarnold> kre10: use ip addr    to see the addresses you've got assigned, and ip addr del ip.add.res.s dev eth0   to remove the one you don't want
[22:24] <kre10> I removed the second IP via ip -s -s a f to 192.168.2.0/24
[22:24] <kre10> but after reboot it's still here...
[22:24] <kre10> OK
[22:25] <kre10>     inet 192.168.0.111/24 brd 192.168.0.255 scope global eth0
[22:25] <kre10>     inet 192.168.0.109/24 brd 192.168.0.255 scope global secondary noprefixroute eth0
[22:25] <kre10> the problem is this secondary address
[22:25] <sarnold> and that survives a reboot?
[22:26] <kre10> yes
[22:26] <kre10> so, I should try with this:
[22:26] <kre10> ip addr del 192.168.0.109/24 dev eth0
[22:28] <sarnold> well, if it comes back after a reboot, then that means you've probably got something else to fix, too :) does your router say why it is giving you two addresses?
[22:30] <kre10> nope, I have reserved dhcp client in the router which is OK - 192.168.0.111 - scope global eth0
[22:30] <kre10> but there's nothing about the secondary - 192.168.0.109
[22:35] <sarnold> kre10: oh strange, is there anything in journalctl or /var/log/ that references that ip?
[22:35] <sarnold> .. that might say who / what / why assigned it?
[22:37] <kre10> actually, pihole uses this IP, but when I installed pihole, I used the global one.
[22:37] <kre10> now, I'm trying with this:
[22:37] <sarnold> is pihole configured to still use it?
[22:37] <kre10> I have to check out
[22:37] <ratel> most likely
[22:38] <kre10> Pi-hole IPv4 address:	192.168.0.109/24
[22:38] <kre10> I can login via ssh to the server with both IP's
[22:38] <kre10> now, I'm trying with this one:
[22:38] <kre10> service dhcpcd stop
[22:38] <kre10> ip addr del 192.168.0.109/24 dev eth0
[22:39] <kre10> but I'm still waiting...
[22:45] <pavlos> kre10: is the pi getting a dynamic address from the router?
[22:46] <kre1028> nope, the pi's getting a static address from the router - 192.168.0.111
[22:47] <pavlos> kre10: so the pi has a /etc/netwaork/interfaces where it specifies to get the .111
[22:48] <kre10> I will check it out, it's rebooting now
[22:48] <kre10> in /etc/network, I have:
[22:48] <kre10> if-down.d  if-post-down.d  if-pre-up.d  if-up.d
[22:48] <kre10> folders...
[22:49] <kre10> pihole's setupVars.conf:
[22:49] <kre10> PIHOLE_INTERFACE=eth0
[22:49] <kre10> IPV4_ADDRESS=192.168.0.109/24
[22:49] <kre10> IPV6_ADDRESS=
[22:50] <kre10> maybe that's why I can't remove 192.168.0.109?
[22:52] <pavlos> kre10: cam you change that line to .111/24 ? seems the pis started with a .111 but pi-hole asked for another ip and got .109
[22:52] <kre10> Uploaded file: https://uploads.kiwiirc.com/files/53719ab79a9957e38264c2f8ed638c6c/pasted.txt
[22:53] <kre10> I'm running pihole reconfigure :(
[22:53] <kre10> maybe I should change that line
[22:53] <kre10> Am I need this dhcpcd5?
[22:54] <kre10> When I installed pihole firstime, I don't remember if I had this option
[22:54] <rfm> kre10, you should probably be reading the pi-hole docs, in particular https://docs.pi-hole.net/main/prerequisites/#supported-operating-systems
[22:55] <rfm> kre10, and follow the links about "network confusion" etc.   The way I read it, pi-hole assumes everything is raspbian and doesn't actually integrate with ubuntu
[22:56] <pavlos> kre10: I'd probably get rid of pihole, then make sure the pi is booting/getting ip correctly and then reinstall pihole
[22:56] <kre10> OK, I will try
[22:58] <pavlos> kre10: sfter all, pihole is just a "curl somewhere | bash"
[22:58] <kre10> yep
[22:59] <pavlos> kre10: I'd make sure the pi works well first
[23:02] <kre10> you mean pihole?
[23:03] <kre10> Pi-hole IPv4 address:	192.168.0.111/24
[23:04] <kre10> Ok, I make the first step
[23:04] <pavlos> kre10: no, amek sure pi4 works well with ubuntu, one ip, .111 then bring in pihole
[23:04] <pavlos> make*
[23:04] <kre10> everything was great before I ran this commands
[23:04] <kre10> :(
[23:06] <pavlos> so pi4 with ubuntu server is working well, reboot, verify ip, the usual, then do the curl
[23:08] <kre10> after delete the secondary IP, I get DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_BAD_CONFIG
[23:08] <kre10> what the hell..
[23:09] <oerheks> meanwhile you could have reinstalled pihole..
[23:10] <ratel> hee oerheks
[23:11] <pavlos> is your router your DNS, 192.168.0.1 ?
[23:11] <kre1077> oerheks I just did that
[23:11] <pavlos> or will pihole handle DNS and DHCP ?
[23:12] <compdoc>  pihole can handle DNS and DHCP
[23:12] <kre1077> Pinging 192.168.0.111 with 32 bytes of data:
[23:12] <kre1077> Reply from 192.168.0.109: Destination host unreachable.
[23:12] <kre1077> this is super weir
[23:12] <kre1077> weird*
[23:14] <kre1077>   IPv4 address for docker0:         172.17.0.1
[23:14] <kre1077>   IPv4 address for eth0:            192.168.0.111
[23:15] <kre1077> I think I made it
[23:17] <pavlos> can you log on to the admin page of the pihole, http://hostname/admin
[23:17] <kre1077>     inet 192.168.0.111/24 brd 192.168.0.255 scope global eth0
[23:17] <kre1077> yes, I can
[23:18] <pavlos> probably http://192.168.0.111/admin
[23:18] <kre1077> how the hell pihole had 192.168.0.109 instead 111
[23:19] <kre1077> In the installer, I choosed 111 - I'm 100% sure
[23:19] <kre1077> yes, it's open
[23:20] <kre1077> oh, shit..
[23:20] <pavlos> there is a settings page where dhcp range and gateway (router) ip
[23:21] <kre1077> Look what I saw in /etc/dhcpcd.conf
[23:21] <kre1077> https://pastebin.com/QqizYurS
[23:21] <kre1077> it's still there :(
[23:21] <pavlos> get rid of lines 6-9, reboot
[23:22] <pavlos> during pihole install, it asks if you want the currect ip or define another static ip
[23:22] <pavlos> current
[23:24] <kre1077> yes, I set another static IP - the global one - 111
[23:25] <kre1077> but in this config I still have 2 IP's
[23:25] <pavlos> so pi4 has .109 and pihole has .111 (evwn though they are the same machine
[23:25] <pavlos> sorry for the typos
[23:26] <kre1077> so, If I remove this lines from the config?
[23:27] <pavlos> you can comment them out with #
[23:27] <kre1077> OK
[23:29] <kre1077> actually what is this static interface in dhcpcd.conf? I had set up static IP in my router...
[23:30] <oerheks> restart your router to clear this ip lease jungle
[23:30] <kre1077> ok, without comment these lines in the config, after 2 reboots, everything seems fine
[23:30] <oerheks> especially with pihole stuff
[23:30] <kre1077> OK
[23:35] <Trace_> What's the preferred method for setting static IP address and DNS on Ubuntu Server 20.04 from cli?
[23:36] <Trace_> netplan?
[23:37] <rfm> Trace_, yes, netplan.  https://netplan.io/examples/ has one to follow
[23:38] <Trace_> rfm Thanks
[23:38] <kre1077> oh, this is good :)
[23:39] <kre1077> so, if I understand correctly, the netlplan method for settung static IP's is better form the router?
[23:45] <Trace_> Can I use systemd-resolverd as a DNS forwarder ? I tried installing bind/named but it's forwarding DNS requests to root servers instead of to the local DNS server specified.
[23:47] <kwhat4> Good morning, I am running into an issue compiling i386 on x86_64.  Ive installed binutils-i686-linux-gnu, gcc-i686-linux-gnu and libxtst-dev:i386 but pkg-config cannot find /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/pkgconfig via cmake
[23:48] <sarnold> Trace_: if you put your local named in /etc/resolv.conf then systemd-resolved should forward to it, take a look at the bit "Four modes of handling /etc/resolv.conf (see resolv.conf(5)) are supported:" in systemd-resolved(8)
[23:49] <Trace_> sarnold I think it's the Fallback option I need to change. Looking for the right config.