[03:59] wow.... [04:00] * OvenWerks feels like a "real dev" now... [16:12] Eickmeyer[kde]: having said that, -installer should probably look for packages to be removed and put up a continue/cancel dialog if removed is greater than 0 [16:14] That's done best with "sudo apt-get full-upgrade" because then it would show packages to be removed. [18:00] @teward001 How's the recovery going? [18:07] @Eickmeyer [@teward001 How's the recovery going?], still going. sleeping a lot, which is a positive thing heh [18:08] @teward001 [still going. sleeping a lot, which is a positive thing heh], Absolutely. I might have 1 or 2 more packages to upload when you're feeling up to it. [18:13] send me the list don't expect much action yet [18:30] ack [22:17] Eickmeyer[kde]: is lsp broken in 20.10? [22:18] or is it just a left it so long without sw update? [22:18] (1100 packages updated) [22:19] anyway, will remove all lsp packages then reinstall and see [22:19] it says there are two packages that write the same file :P [22:24] also it seems there is a problem with either carla, -controls, zita-ajbridge or jack. [22:25] I think it is carla... because zita-ajbridge was already updated before I started playing and thing s were fine. [22:28] removing _all_ lsp packages works (lsp-common was blocking things) [22:37] Eickmeyer[kde]: we may have a problem with jakcd2 1.9.14-0ubuntu3 [22:39] Eickmeyer[kde]: the last patch is going to python 3 and that may explain why tools that use jack_control or other pythoin based things act odd [22:41] jack_lsp works mostly the first time but never finishes... killing and restartiung fails [22:41] carla has troubles too [22:42] OvenWerks: No, it's not broken. Are you upgrading to it? [22:43] lsp seems fine now, I removed all it's bits [22:43] Yeah, looks like you figured that out. apt full-upgrade would've done that for you (hence it's in the instructions for the backport PPA to do that). [22:43] there used to be a -common that had a file in it that one of the new ones has [22:43] when I got rid of them all and reinstalled it's ok [22:43] The new one is packaged in Debian. [22:43] right. [22:44] Yeah, that's what full-upgrade is supposed to do. [22:44] but jackd being bad is a worse problem [22:44] Yeah. Carla is an RC, so I'm not surprised if it has troubles. [22:44] if that is what it is [22:45] But Jack in the backports is a newer version than in the focal repos. [22:45] I'm on groovy right now [22:45] Ah. Yeah, I've had no issues with groovy. [22:45] Of course, there's nothing in the backports for groovy right now. [22:45] run jack with whatever [22:46] use the CL tool jack_lsp to list the ports [22:46] jack_lsp never finishes [22:46] sigint (control c) stops it. [22:46] start again just hangs [22:47] carla seems to hang after a bit [22:47] Just did that. No issues whatsoever. [22:47] -controls seems to hang after a bit [22:47] I reboot [22:47] Can't duplicate. [22:55] so now it is fine... I booted here because I was having trouble with 20.04 [22:56] (so is someone else which is why I was testing it) [23:11] now is not fine... [23:11] Eickmeyer: I don't know if it is zita (I don't think so because the new one got to groovy in may) [23:12] or the way -controls deals with it? [23:12] but right now I have carla, -controls and jack_lsp all hung [23:12] reboot... [23:34] Eickmeyer: I may have another -controls release. I set a timeout that I shortened to 5 sec back to 15 sec and the problem seems to have gone. [23:34] I will test it more in 20.04... [23:35] reboot... [23:52] Ok... [23:52] OvenWerks: Did you see my issue report when I tried to run it in Fedora?