[01:04] <pieq> Morning y'all!
[01:22] <callmepk> good morning pieq 
[01:24] <pieq> hey callmepk !
[01:45] <duflu> Morning pieq, callmepk 
[01:45] <callmepk> Morning duflu '
[01:56] <jamesh> hi pieq, callmepk, duflu 
[01:58] <duflu> Hi jamesh 
[02:05] <callmepk> hi jamesh 
[05:39] <jibel> morning all
[05:45] <duflu> Morning jibel 
[06:02] <callmepk> morning jibel 
[06:40] <marcustomlinson> morning desktoppers
[06:41] <pieq> hey marcustomlinson 
[06:44] <marcustomlinson> hey pieq
[07:00] <callmepk> morning marcustomlinson 
[07:00] <marcustomlinson> hey callmepk
[07:05] <seb128> goood morning desktopers
[07:06] <marcustomlinson> morning seb128
[07:06] <marcustomlinson> seb128: how are you?
[07:14] <callmepk> hi seb128 
[07:18] <duflu> Morning seb128 
[07:20] <seb128> hey marcustomlinson , callmepk , duflu , how are you?
[07:21] <duflu> seb128, very well considering I was still awake around 2am. How are you?
[07:23] <seb128> I'm alright, we finally got some rain and it's down to 23°C this morning!
[07:24] <duflu> \o/
[08:02] <Laney> morning
[08:03] <seb128> hey Laney, how are you? it's fresh friday! :-)
[08:07] <marcustomlinson> hey Laney
[08:12] <Laney> hey seb128 marcustomlinson 
[08:12] <Laney> indeed, cold today!
[08:28] <duflu> Hi Laney
[10:26]  * duflu deflates
[10:33] <juliank> heya, I want to talk about https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1888698
[10:33] <juliank> it seems to fail with
[10:33] <juliank> Bail out! Gtk:ERROR:../../../../gtk/gtkiconhelper.c:494:ensure_surface_for_gicon: assertion failed (error == NULL): Failed to load /usr/share/icons/Adwaita/48x48/status/image-missing.png: Formato del file di immagine non riconosciuto (gdk-pixbuf-error-quark, 3)
[10:33] <juliank> (frontend:10148): Gtk-[1;33mWARNING[0m **: [34m16:28:16.133[0m: Could not load a pixbuf from icon theme.
[10:33] <juliank> This may indicate that pixbuf loaders or the mime database could not be found.
[10:34] <juliank> And I'm a bit clueless what to do here
[10:34] <juliank> because if the debconf gtk3 frontend crashes when it can't find icons or its pixbuf loaders or whatever, we can't ask debconf questions during upgrades and they fail
[10:36] <juliank> Not sure what the italian (?) message says - format of image file not recognized?
[11:18] <seb128> juliank, that's bug #1627564
[11:19] <seb128> juliank, that's basically happening during updates while the pixbuf loader is still Unconfigured
[11:19] <juliank> this is a bit unfortunate
[11:19] <seb128> unsure how to solve those problems out of doing offline upgrades
[11:20] <seb128> we discussed that on #ubuntu-release (or devel) some weeks ago with cjwatson, debconf is supposed to be robust to gtk issues but maybe isn't in those cases
[11:21] <juliank> ack
[11:22] <seb128> juliank, https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2020/04/21/%23ubuntu-release.html#t16:15 was the discussion but I don't think there is much useful
[11:23] <seb128> well I think one outcome was that the debconf code would catch gtk crashing on init
[11:23] <seb128> but in this case it doesn't do that, it just fails when trying to use icons, so maybe debconf should try to do that as well so it can fallback if that fails
[12:02] <KGB-2> orca debian/master Marcus Tomlinson * [open] merge request !2: Merge tag 'debian/3.37.90-1' into ubuntu/master * https://deb.li/ikDzA
[12:02] <marcustomlinson> seb128: could you have a look at this: https://salsa.debian.org/gnome-team/orca/-/merge_requests/2
[12:03] <marcustomlinson> has built in my ppa
[12:05] <marcustomlinson> whoops wrong target branch
[12:05] <KGB-2> orca ubuntu/master Marcus Tomlinson * [update] merge request !2: Merge tag 'debian/3.37.90-1' into ubuntu/master * https://deb.li/ikDzA
[12:13] <marcustomlinson> I've also installed the package on a groovy vm and tested a bit manually. looks (well, sounds) good
[12:13] <seb128> marcustomlinson, k, adding to my todolist for the day :-)
[12:14] <marcustomlinson> seb128: thanks :)
[12:14] <seb128> np! thank you for working on the update!
[14:11] <seb128> marcustomlinson, @orca, why the 'Add libatk1.0-dev to Build-Depends'? 
[14:20] <marcustomlinson> seb128: without it the build failed
[14:20] <seb128> marcustomlinson, do you have a build log?
[14:22] <seb128> it's not required in configure.ac 
[14:23] <marcustomlinson> seb128: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/493307994/buildlog_ubuntu-groovy-amd64.orca_3.37.90-1ubuntu1_BUILDING.txt.gz
[14:23] <marcustomlinson> Package 'atk', required by 'atk-bridge-2.0', not found
[14:23] <seb128> k
[14:23] <seb128> if atk-bridget-2.0 requires it then libatk-bridge2.0-dev is the one that needs the Depends
[14:24] <marcustomlinson> seb128: ok I'll update that
[14:24] <marcustomlinson> seb128: oh, wait, libatk-bridge2.0-dev is already there
[14:25] <seb128> yes
[14:25] <Laney> libatk-bridge2.0-dev needs a new dependency
[14:25] <marcustomlinson> oh right
[14:25] <Laney> if it ships a .pc file that has this Requires
[14:27] <seb128> that's what I just said :p
[14:27] <Laney> yeah
[14:27] <Laney> you get the credit, I just said it with words in a different order
[14:29] <seb128> :-)
[14:29] <seb128> marcustomlinson, something probably used to pull it in an masked the lack of depends and stopped doing that
[14:30] <seb128> marcustomlinson, anyway you want a report on https://packages.qa.debian.org/a/at-spi2-atk.html or a mp for https://salsa.debian.org/a11y-team/at-spi2-atk
[14:30] <seb128> marcustomlinson, an please undo the orca change
[14:31] <KGB-2> orca ubuntu/master Marcus Tomlinson * [update] merge request !2: Merge tag 'debian/3.37.90-1' into ubuntu/master * https://deb.li/ikDzA
[14:31] <hellsworth> good morning desktopers
[14:32] <KGB-2> orca ubuntu/master Marcus Tomlinson * [update] merge request !2: Merge tag 'debian/3.37.90-1' into ubuntu/master * https://deb.li/ikDzA
[14:32] <seb128> hey Heather, how are you?
[14:32] <seb128> happy friday!
[14:32] <hellsworth> marcustomlinson: Laney: yesterday i gave up on increasing the size of the lxd container and just disabled the tests
[14:33] <kenvandine> good morning hellsworth 
[14:33] <hellsworth> hey seb128 i'm ok. caffeinating :)
[14:33] <hellsworth> hey kenvandine 
[14:33] <seb128> oh, as a FYI and since it might not trigger any meaningfull notification to you, Steve rolled back libreoffice in groovy to 6.4.4
[14:33] <seb128> to try to get out of the armhf problem and let icu migrate
[14:34] <hellsworth> ok that is really good to hear
[14:34] <hellsworth> i'd like to stop holding folks up..
[14:34] <seb128> well, it's not clear yet if that's going to fix the issue
[14:34] <kenvandine> perhaps we should  go straight to 7.0
[14:34] <seb128> also please don't stop on trying to get the issue fixed, we are going to want to go back to .5 once icu migrates
[14:34] <seb128> kenvandine, does that fix the armhf problem?
[14:34] <kenvandine> no idea
[14:34] <kenvandine> but
[14:34] <seb128> but we should probably anyway, Debian updated already
[14:34] <kenvandine> we need to go to 7 anyway
[14:35] <seb128> right
[14:35] <kenvandine> seems .5 isn't really important right now ;)
[14:35] <hellsworth> armhf builds fail on 7.. and it could even be related though
[14:35] <hellsworth> but the true urgency around .5 i felt was just getting things unstuck in proposed
[14:35] <kenvandine> i'd rather spend the time fixing 7
[14:35] <hellsworth> so now just working on 7 sounds good
[14:35] <Laney> why are you running out of space on lxd like that?
[14:36] <hellsworth> i have no idea
[14:36] <Laney> that sounds really weird, I think you probably inited it in an odd way
[14:36] <hellsworth> i tried increasing the storage pool size too and still the same thing happened
[14:36] <hellsworth> hmm anything is possible i suppose
[14:38] <Laney> | default    |             | dir    | /var/snap/lxd/common/lxd/storage-pools/default | 13      |
[14:38] <Laney> that's what mine says, I think that just means it uses directories under there
[14:38] <Laney> so unless I actually fill up the disk each container can be as big as it wants
[14:39] <kenvandine> iirc it defaults to using zfs to create a pool
[14:39] <kenvandine> dir isn't default
[14:39] <kenvandine> i don't think
[14:39] <kenvandine> i got bit by this at one point in the past too
[14:39] <Laney> dunno
[14:39] <hellsworth> mine are both btrfs (not dir) : https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/NTjZ4DcQNk/
[14:39] <hellsworth> zfs wasn't even an option
[14:39] <kenvandine> dir is more flexible for sure
[14:39] <kenvandine> ah, maybe that was it
[14:40] <hellsworth> and i installed zfsutils-linux
[14:40] <kenvandine> i'd say delete the pool and create a new one of type dir
[14:41] <Laney> on one of my other hosts I gave it a zpool indeed, that seems fine too
[14:41] <Laney> not sure what happens when you let it use a file instead
[14:43] <Laney> laney@rutland:~$ zpool list
[14:43] <Laney> NAME      SIZE  ALLOC   FREE  CKPOINT  EXPANDSZ   FRAG    CAP  DEDUP    HEALTH  ALTROOT
[14:43] <Laney> not trying hard enough :>
[14:43] <Laney> storage   928G  12.7G   915G        -         -     1%     1%  1.00x    ONLINE  -
[14:43]  * Laney needs more linux isos
[14:44] <hellsworth> hmm do you know how to modify the lxd command to point to the new dir storage pool?
[14:45] <hellsworth> autopkgtest --shell-fail --timeout-copy=6000 --apt-upgrade --apt-pocket=proposed=src:libreoffice libreoffice --test-name uicheck-sc -- lxd autopkgtest/ubuntu/groovy/armhf
[14:45] <hellsworth> like i want there to be a --pool option to lxd or something but that doesn't seem to exist
[14:46] <Laney> lxc profile device remove default root; lxc profile device add default root disk path=/ pool=YOURPOOLNAME
[14:47] <hellsworth> hey that's awesome!! thank you.
[14:47] <Laney> btw I filed https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gcc-10/+bug/1891623
[14:48] <Laney> I'm doing a build in the cloud to get some stuff that they need to debug that
[14:49] <Laney> and if https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/1:6.4.4-0ubuntu2/+build/19827067 fails then I have some builds with gcc-9 ready to go
[14:49] <hellsworth> ok awesome!!
[14:49] <Laney> so yeah, concentrate on 7
[14:50] <hellsworth> wow that is all awesome
[14:50] <Laney> man
[14:51] <Laney> the bing wallpaper changer extension is the best
[14:51] <Laney> you get a pleasant surprise each day when using the activities overview
[14:51] <luna_> Laney: does that exists for Ubuntu? :D
[14:52] <Laney> I got it from extensions.g.o!
[14:52] <luna_> :o
[14:54] <luna_> guess i am just old for thinking Microsoft Product = Windows, its the new world now
[14:56] <Laney> I think matlock tipped me off re: this initially, so kudos goes there
[14:56] <luna_> i am however one of those wierd people that use: https://awesomewm.org/ 
[14:56] <luna_> :P
[14:58] <KGB-0> orca ubuntu/master Marcus Tomlinson * [update] merge request !2: Merge tag 'debian/3.37.90-1' into ubuntu/master * https://deb.li/ikDzA
[15:13] <hellsworth> hey Laney what did you do to make libreoffice builds with gcc9?
[15:13] <Laney> I set GCC_VERSION or something in the rules file
[15:13] <Laney> seemed to work ...................................
[15:13] <hellsworth> gotcha
[15:13] <hellsworth> ty :)
[15:13] <Laney> dunno if that's the official way
[16:22] <kedar_apte> GSConnect keeps crashing for me...it messes with the display card.. AMD Radeon HD 5430 ...both on wayland and x11. Dont know why...
[17:07] <Laney> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/nfx2tDrChX/
[17:08] <Laney> 6.4.5 with gcc-9 on armhf 😎
[17:08] <Laney> see what the in progress 6.4.4 build does, but if that fails this is a good sign
[17:08] <GunnarHj> Trevinho: I just uploaded a gnome-shell fix for bionic. Since I found that the repo was not in sync with the archive, I bypassed the repo. Do you possibly have a non-pushed commit locally?
[17:10] <Laney> will check on that later/tomorrow
[17:10] <Laney> bye for now!
[17:34] <hellsworth> Laney: thanks!! i have a 7.0 build with gcc 9.3 going for all archs in my ppa too. will report how that goes :)
[17:58] <seb128> GunnarHj, hey, I saw you nominate that keyboard fix for bionic, better to sync up with Trevinho about doing an upload, there are probably other fixes worth including
[17:59] <seb128> Laney, enjoy the weekend!
[18:00] <GunnarHj> seb128: Might have been.. But such syncing is what the repo is for, right? ;)
[18:02] <seb128> GunnarHj, right, well I'm just saying in case you were about to do an upload
[18:02] <GunnarHj> seb128: Ah, too late - already in the queue.
[18:03] <seb128> lol, alright, uploads a not that expensive :-)
[18:04] <GunnarHj> seb128: Let's see if Trevinho has something pending. In that case it can just be dropped from the queue, I suppose.
[18:31] <hellsworth> well my 7.0 build with gcc 9.3 is failing to install the gcc 9.3 dependency: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/493485760/buildlog_ubuntu-groovy-amd64.libreoffice_1%3A7.0.0-1~bpo10+1ubuntu1~ppa1_BUILDING.txt.gz
[18:31] <hellsworth> but i can tell that gcc 9.3 was in groovy at one point: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archive/primary/+copy-packages?field.name_filter=gcc&field.status_filter=&field.series_filter=groovy
[18:32] <hellsworth> so i wonder what Laney did to force this gcc version for libreoffice 6.4.5
[18:32] <hellsworth> this is what i changed in the rules: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/wvh9d2KFvK/
[18:33] <hellsworth> i need help building the 7.0 deb with gcc 9 while we wait for the gcc10 issues to be looked at
[18:34] <hellsworth> i'll go back to the 7.0 snap for now..
[19:22] <doko> hellsworth: how is your ppa configured? "same components only"?
[19:22] <hellsworth> checking..
[19:23] <hellsworth> doko: "Use all Ubuntu components available."
[19:25] <doko> strange
[19:27] <hellsworth> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[19:27] <hellsworth>  sbuild-build-depends-libreoffice-dummy : Depends: g++-9.3 but it is not installable
[19:27] <hellsworth>                                           Depends: gcc-9.3 but it is not installable
[19:27] <hellsworth> yeah i can't make heads or tails of it..
[19:33] <doko> hellsworth: aah, there is no gcc-9.3 ... it's called gcc-9
[19:33] <hellsworth> bah
[19:34] <hellsworth> thank you
[19:34] <hellsworth> i'll retry that then
[22:29] <Laney> hellsworth: yeah like this https://launchpadlibrarian.net/493435139/libreoffice_1%3A6.4.4-0ubuntu1_1%3A6.4.4-0ubuntu3.diff.gz
[22:29] <Laney> the control bits happen when you run fakeroot debian/rules clean
[22:29] <Laney> dunno if this is the official way to do that ... but ...