[16:14] i thought i might give lmms a try to compare it with ardour (for pretty simple stuff, just adding midi notes via mouse click and copying stuff around a bit). The version i installed with apt-get doesn't seem to have carla support. I don't fully understand, but downloading a version from the lmms page had carla support (might well be i did something wrong) [16:15] i'd also like a recommendation. Right now i really seem to prefer ardour, but i always got hard times getting my head in new stuff. Is lmms worth it, or should just focus on ardour? [16:19] there probably is a reason ardour was installed per default and lmms not, iirc ... [16:23] lmms should be installed by default so far as I know [16:24] it is on my system and I had no reason to install it myself [16:24] ah, then i recall incorrect. [16:25] if lmms is good for you or not depnds on your personal workflow [16:25] They are different tools [16:26] yes, i know the question is not a good one. But, as said, i *always* got hard times with new software. [16:26] it was a sidenote anyway. My main concern was the lack of support for carla. [16:27] most of my stuff is recording analog signals, so Ardour makes sense. [16:28] I do not know why it would not work with carla. Is there an extra package to add that? [16:28] I see. Well: i don't do such, and probably won't either. Just what i described above. [16:29] the web and docs say if carla is installed, it should be seen in the instrument-panel of lmms. In the repo version it doesn't, as said. [16:29] lmms-vst-server is not installed by default [16:29] i also got some web results mentioning compiling against (forgot what), but i sure don't know about such. [16:29] is installed here. [16:30] i went back and forth yesterday [16:30] Ardour vs. LMMS is an interesting top for me also. I just installed U.S. via the installer to a stock Ubuntu 20.04 install for my son. He's not a 'musician' via any typical sense - but he's put together his own physical synth devices for a decade-plus. He creates sounds for the 'noise' world. He's expressed interest in learning a DAW like Ardour to do more than he typically does now with just hardware [16:32] corrinado[m]: while i sure am a noob, people like unfa (quite some youtube-videos about ardour) say midi would be a bit underloved in ardour. Hence i tried lmms (though was happy). I for one, as of now sure prefer ardour. For me the workflow is much easier and the result sounds way more interesting. In lmms (until now) everything seems to sound the same (though i use the same synthesizers, zynadd, [16:32] calf-fluid, and such) [16:32] my two cents, not much worth, as said. [16:34] Any input is worth something, in my book at least. I appreciate the response. [16:34] unfa has lots of videos abour ardour and there is a youtube channel "linux music" who describes in short the general idea of synths and the setup for different stuff. Probably too low level for him. [16:34] let me check for the other channel. I for one love it. [16:35] corrinado[m]: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCt5oHpSy4PqpjALz74BpnRA [16:38] I've found unfa's stuff before and will forward that along with the channel you linked. TY!