[00:13] oerheks, sarnold fixed. Please check & confirm [00:16] hggdh: yay! thanks :) [00:27] !cookie | sarnold hggdh [00:27] sarnold hggdh: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie! [00:27] * sarnold carefully breaks the cookie in half [00:36] lol...installing teamviewer 11 on windows...step 1) take breath step 2) press install step 3) work [00:36] instealling the same on ubuntu [00:37] 1) start crying [00:37] 2) wish you never had to [00:37] 3) take a week off work [00:37] 4) pray for answers and not salt on windows by ubuntu support :) [00:40] install something opensource for ubuntu support? [00:40] that binairy blob works, or not. [00:43] or that, forgot about all the other software advice [00:43] as in "nope wont work" [00:43] i have vnc, nomachine and remote shell on this machine [00:43] but you know...life isn't about me, there's businesses to run and some of those want teamviewer..AND an old version AND on "ubuntu" [00:43] so yeah [00:43] there you are...frustrated as hell [00:44] and im not the kind of person that really cares about image you know and has lost all his hair by his 50th..nah..fuck that..i'll let it go [00:45] and talk about it :) [00:45] good luck!\ [00:46] found this ambitious guy: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1261116/teamviewer-11-wont-work-on-ubuntu-20-login-screen [00:46] lol [00:46] dude actually went for it :) [00:47] :p im actually laughing with near tears in eyes...where have we ended up in [00:47] rebuild teamviewer for 64 bit? [00:48] that'd remove half the steps from that, anyway [00:48] its not the arch [00:48] they stopped supporting certain dependencies [01:06] what does [01:06] MimeType=*/*; do (wrong) in org.kde.kdeconnect_open.desktop? === FlannelKing is now known as Flannel === zbenjamin_ is now known as zbenjamin [02:11] viaSanctus: i'm sure there are other methods besides teamviewer to administer a remote Ubuntu desktop PC [02:12] viaSanctus: sucks though since you're accustomed to teamviewer [02:12] remoteVNC? winswitch? xpra? [02:13] ssh? [02:13] hint: vnc, nomachine and remote shell .. what is running and using ports? === Guest35320 is now known as catalase === gabkdlly_ is now known as gabkdlly [02:42] tatertotz, the "biggest" difference i notice about MS users and "open source" users is (despite the fact MS is betting on open source and corporate businesses DO run open source) is that open source have this "small business" mindset...as in "just do this or that"... [02:43] sometimes there's this "requirements set" [02:43] and you just have to do it [02:43] and I KNOW there's a lot better stuff out there [02:43] trust me i know [02:44] if someone asks me "i want to kill myself eating easter eggs"...i'll try to figure out how [02:44] not answer "just jump under a train" [02:46] bummer, viasanctus has failed the xy test === Ringtailed-Fox is now known as RingtailedFox [03:07] Every so often I see a little icon in the top bar that looks like a power cord with three dots in front of it. Any idea what that could be? [03:07] It appears, and then leaves before I can investigate [03:11] https://upload.picpaste.me/image/kuJ2e [03:11] That little power cord icon. It shows up for a second or so, and then disappears. [03:20] It appears that boltd is probing the thunderbolt device. My dock has behaved satisfactorily for a couple years, so I can't imagine what the issue is now. === akem is now known as Macron === Macron is now known as E_Macron === Comnenus_ is now known as Comnenus [05:10] Guys? I've been noticing a scary behaviour on my Ubuntu20.04 machine. I have 2 physical drives. They're both Ext4. When I copy a file from 1 drive to another drive, it looks like it copies the file instantly. And they're more than 2Gb big. These are not SSD drives. So thats impossible. How can this be?!? [05:12] ViperXL75: have you compared the files? is the copy successful? === xbfrog is now known as Titus === Titus is now known as Titus_Justus [05:12] someone just told me that there is "disc caching" that is playing jokes on me. [05:12] Seems its being copied in the background or so? [05:13] so you haven't actually compared the files immediately after making this observation [05:13] good luck with that [05:15] which tool can i use to compare them with? [06:05] hey Sven_vB [06:05] moring [06:05] morning [06:06] let's try it today once more [06:29] hello ubuntu channel [06:30] question if Im installing from source and package requires a specific version of automake can I substitute? with later version? [06:33] jasonsmr: the term "requires" and or "required" suggests a thing is required [06:34] Im having a rough time of it I need to compile something that is out of date [06:35] it requires older libraries [06:36] many older out of date, no longer maintained or supported things do require older libraries [06:38] yes I was thinking about using an older version of ubuntu also but I think that may introduce more error [06:43] This is a question for a raspberry pi, but I know there is probably a fair share of Pi developers in this IRC [06:43] Does anyone have a solution?... [06:43] I recently moved my Pi off of my router to a network switch board, & since doing so I haven't been able to use ssh at all to connect to my pi. I had my pi connected to the router on a fixed IP address and obviously the network switch board is wired to my router but the pi doesn't even seem to start as it can't connect to a display either and I receive no flashing green light now as well. I do have a red power light and all was we [06:45] bettencb: wow..you can no longer even use a HDMI display on your RasPi, and you can no longer access it via ssh either?...wow ..sounds like you have no way to administer the device now [06:46] bettencb: better physically disconnect everything and see if it is still working [06:46] tatertotz: Can you just take out the sd card to go through files on a Pi or does it not work like that? [06:47] First time I've ever had this issue where I can't access my pi to debug and I'm just completely lost [06:47] bettencb: the RasPi 3B+ has no storage on it's own [06:47] It's a Pi 4 [06:47] bettencb: the SDcard is it's only storage [06:47] bettencb: same with 4 [06:48] tatertotz: Right, I just didn't know if it was encrypted or anything. It's running ubuntu 19.04 server [06:49] tatertotz: I've never had to look through a filesystem before like this? I just didn't know if A) that was possible or if B) someone knew what was going on exactly [06:49] question: when I am building from foo.dsc source can I change automake version there? [06:49] I mean like I said my version of auto make is older than needed [06:49] bettencb: you can no longer use whatever operating system you had on the pie, since your ssh doesn't work and a HDMI connected monitor doesn't work either [06:49] cross that newer than needed [06:49] bettencb: i hope it's not dead [06:50] lol its late [06:52] bettencb: you don't have to "look" at it's filesystem now either....since HDMI display doesn't work..you can't "look" at anything [06:52] tatertotz: I know... I didn't know if when I set the fixed IP address on the router if I somehow binded the mac address to the router and only the router will give it access? The network switch is behind the firewall obviously but the Pi connected to the router would of been behind the firewall too? So I'm just lost... [06:53] bettencb: put it back in its original place and try to ssh [06:53] tatertotz: If I take out the SD card though and just plug it into my computer I could go through the filesystem with just my command line though right? [06:53] bettencb: HDMI doesn't work [06:53] I know.... It was such a chore to move [06:53] lol [06:53] I appreciate the help though! === benfrancis3 is now known as benfrancis [07:10] bettencb: any progress? [07:15] tatertotz: not so much. it's like 2am where I'm at tho so I'm not exactly super focused right now [07:15] I'll prolly tackle it in the morning === PowerTower_121 is now known as PowerTower_120 [10:00] How do I change Xorg coredump names to something that doesn't overwrite previous one with different one? Affected by multiple different Xorg crashes since latest updates... [10:08] nonix4: cat /proc/sys/kernel/core_pattern [10:10] see manual page core(5) for details [10:10] or apport... which appears not to be sending those to errors.ubuntu.com, possibly confused by networkmanager [10:25] hi, what's the difference between packages vulkan-tools and vulkan-utils? [10:25] (ubuntu 18.04) [10:27] nonix4: by default, Ubuntu would either send to errors.ubuntu.com or keep the error reports in /var/crash, but you shouldn't see core files at all. so i guess you must have modified it, or this is not a standard ubuntu. [10:29] !info vulkan-tools bionic [10:29] Package vulkan-tools does not exist in bionic [10:29] FreeBDSM:^ [10:31] tomreyn: I think it is suffering from the same issue as rest of gui tools, thinking network connectivity is missing because networkmanager doesn't understand partially connected multihomed networking [10:32] ... using netplan with renderer: networkd but I guess the connectivity checks go through networkmanager anyway? [10:32] nonix4: lack of network connectivity wouldn't explain the appearance of core files, though [10:33] tomreyn: ah, it's ppa ppa.launchpad.net_graphics-drivers_ppa_ubuntu_dists_bionic_main_binary-amd64_Packages [10:33] thanks [10:34] tomreyn: umm... you're right, pebcak. Just the .crash getting overwritten by next, not a coredump. [10:35] not a raw coredump that is, base64'd inside that... [10:35] i see, that's normal then [10:36] is xorg-core being far more recent than invidual xorg drivers normal? [10:38] it's not wrong per se. [10:40] well just wondering since the crashes appear to be a regression related to xorg-core update... whether there could be compatibility issues with older drivers? [10:40] I'm wondering if I can manually rotate the audit logs? Instead of specifying a file size, i'd like to issue a command to start a new audit.log file. Is that possible? [10:40] how do you tell what's more recent and what is older? [10:40] nonix4: ^ [10:42] nedbat: on current ubuntu releases, i don't think there is an audit.log file by default, which one are you running? [10:42] tomreyn: hmm, i didn't set this up, and my ops guy isn't around now. How can I tell? [10:42] nedbat: lsb_release -ds [10:42] but if you know it's been customized that's fine [10:43] tomreyn: 18.04.3 LTS [10:43] that's quite outdated [10:43] -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 173344 Oct 22 2019 /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/amdgpu_drv.so <-- contained in xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu 19.1.0-1 while xserver-xorg-core is 2:1.20.8-2ubuntu2.2 [10:43] tomreyn: yes, we have plans to go to 20.04 before April '21 :) [10:44] `sudo apt-mark showhold` returns nothing. `sudo apt list update && sudo apt list --upgradable` lists 3 packages (xpra, python2-xpra, python3-xpra), yet `sudo apt -y upgrade` says `The following packages have been kept back: python2-xpra python3-xpra xpra 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 3 not upgraded.` Why does apt refuse to upgrade these 3? [10:44] nedbat: 18.04 LTS in itself is fine, but you'r eon minor release 3 whereas you should be on .5 or .6 [10:44] tomreyn: thanks, i'll keep that in mind. [10:44] nedbat: this suggests your system may not receive security updates [10:44] and may not have done so for a long time [10:44] .5 is the last 18.04 [10:44] (for now) [10:45] tomreyn: thanks, I understand. [10:45] does this affect how i can rotate audit logs? [10:45] is it time to upgrade 18.04 LTS to 20.04 LTS? [10:48] nedbat: no, you should use the logrotate command to totate logs. can't provide more detials now, i have to leave [10:48] Reviewer Joey Sneddon noted in OMG Ubuntu, "tradition dictates that Ubuntu LTS releases play things safer than the interim so-called "short-term releases" by only including features that Ubuntu developers can commit to maintain for at least five years. Focal doesn't buck that trend. But while this means there are few "omg!" changes in 20.04 there are a number of iterative improvements, usability and user interface refinements, and some [10:48] much needed updates, spread throughout the whole of the system." [10:48] tomreyn: thanks, that is helpful [10:49] tomreyn: ... but anyway good question, since it might be kernel compability instead of between xorg components too. [10:50] ... guess there is no reasonable way around of needing a remote debug setup if trying to debug xorg? [10:54] (when single-gpu, but multi-gpu might fall under the "unreasonable" classification too) [11:05] FreeBDSM, probably not yet, as there has not been an article about 18.04.* to 20.04.1 yet on omgubuntu.co.uk === zoko__ is now known as zoko [11:49] Can I dpkg-divert /usr/bin/nm-online to /bin/true and if I do, how badly will that bite my ankle? [12:02] Hi [12:02] On a Ubuntu dedicated server I try to add a glue record for manage my DNS record for my domains. The syntaxe shoud be hostname.mydomain.tld or ns.mydomain.tld ? [12:16] Hi all, I have a touch screen laptop, how am I able to make the touck keyboard spread wider across the screen [12:16] I'd likme alarger keys [12:17] I'd like larger keys [12:17] thanks kindly === Mystified is now known as Random [12:30] Hi folks === BromaxSux1 is now known as BromaxSux [12:35] Hi, so I use ubuntu 18.04 dual boot with windows 10, it sends me to emergency [12:35] Mode now [12:35] Last time before I shutdown I think I did [12:35] sudo apt-get upgrade [12:35] Anyone who can help me get out of [12:36] Emergency mode? [12:39] Anyone with ubuntu 18.04 knowledge? [12:39] I tried google but no luck [12:39] The solution there doesnt work for me [12:39] In fact I have only 12 lines in /etc/fstab [13:10] does the privates.h:121 link near top of list at https://errors.ubuntu.com/?release=Ubuntu%2020.04&package=xorg-server&period=day&pkg_arch=amd64 work for those with permissions, or is it affected by bug #1863689? [13:10] bug 1863689 in Errors "Error links containing ../ are not clickable" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1863689 [13:13] s/day/week/ actually... [13:16] I' ve been looking for a sort of now playing ticker for like in the header of a browser for example. [13:17] Or other ways. Ubuntu 20.04, usually using the Audacious player [13:17] nonix4: looks like an instance of 1863689 to me. [13:36] Hello everyone. [13:37] For some reason my Ubuntu 20 has like a "slow" start on a ping from console, cannot understand why. On same machine using Windows i don't have the issue, is like slow to resolve and everything. [13:37] !YY.MM » bet0x [13:37] tomreyn: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [13:37] !YY.MM | bet0x [13:37] bet0x: Ubuntu version numbers are: YY.MM (YY=release year,MM=release month). Each year sees two releases, so just specifying YY is imprecise. See also https://www.ubuntu.com/about/release-cycle [13:38] tomreyn, i didn't understand [13:38] bet0x: there is no "Ubuntu 20", which ubuntu release is your question about? [13:38] tomreyn, 20.04 [13:39] ok! [13:39] tomreyn, so you know what it is or got an idea? [13:40] bet0x: so you open a temrinal window, run "ping iforgottoexplainwhichcommandiranexaxtly.org" and it takes longer than expected to print anything on screen? [13:41] Yep, including browsing. I tried several "DNS" servers. But it doesn't happen on my other OS. [13:41] I have a RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller i did a lot of troubleshoot and nothing pops [13:41] it's wired, no wifi [13:42] bet0x: please run systemd-resolve --status | nc 5.39.93.71 9999 and post the url returned here [13:43] https://termbin.com/a20xj [13:43] There [13:44] bet0x: what does this report? nslookup google.com 189.197.62.74 [13:45] ipv4 + ipv6 [13:45] !paste | bet0x: use a pastebin if more than one line of output [13:45] bet0x: use a pastebin if more than one line of output: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [13:45] i disabled v6 from my connection cause AAAA was taking too long [13:46] tomreyn, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/BhjRM2pYZ6/ [13:46] bet0x: how ong did it take to produce this output? [13:47] right now quick [13:47] 1 second flat [13:47] bet0x: is this as quick? nslookup example.org 189.197.62.74 [13:47] The DNS server has no issue, it's a weird combination [13:48] tomreyn, i added "time" so you can see how fast https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/QfWhh5C9zK/ [13:50] i agree, there seems to be some other problem. could be with ip4 / ipv6 coexsistence. [13:50] i'll bbl, need a nap. === Napsterbater is now known as Guest21476 === Napsterbater_ is now known as Napsterbater [13:58] bet0x: could attempt resolving some of the dnssec test addresses too... [13:59] tomreyn, well seems i fix it by adding "options single-request-reopen" on /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/base [13:59] bet0x: https://dnssec.vs.uni-due.de/ [13:59] oh nonix4 i was checking that [14:00] nonix4, single-request-reopen did the trick [14:07] nonix4, tomreyn thank you! D [14:07] :D [14:13] Hello Guys, there's any one know or suggest what Can I do in this Case < OS Ubuntu Server> I have an external 3T. HDD ext4 shared in LAN with SMB, and when I delete Files from Windows clients Machine, Ubuntu don't free up the space..... I have checked every where for any kind of cache or bin.recycle left somewhere in the HDD but without luck... From Disk tool the free space is 500GB but from properties in files the free space its 250GB. I double [14:13] checked with "sudo baobab" looking for those files and Couldn't find any, looked by terminal with "du -sh ./path-locations* still not any trace of those big file deleted in the past with Windows OS, seen folders such as Trash.1000 etc etc all empty and hidden files doesn't tell much more. Also I did reboot the machine lot of time to avoid some service keep files in hold... no way its not that! " please anyone know what keep the space up and why disk [14:13] show me the correct free space and files properties not? " [14:19] https://github.com/PRATAP-KUMAR/focalgdm3 [14:19] ^ This is cool. [15:07] anyone else noticing when apache2 is updating, the service isn't being restarted? [15:09] I've now seen 4 or 5 systems over the past 2 or so days where apache2-data, apache2-bin, apache2, apache2-utils updated but then see: Error: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) [15:10] this dpkg error only started showing up after that apt-get in the apt log file showing the apache updates (and it also showed again on the autoremove ran on the 15th) [15:14] ah seems the apache package is prompting about overwriting the /etc/apache2/apache2.conf config file... which is breaking apt auto updates? === E_Macron is now known as Cyber-Jesus === Cyber-Jesus is now known as hackem [15:51] How do you get the source code for a particular package? [15:51] ie not just look up the package "upstream" and download the source from there [15:52] rather the specific source as was built from for the version that exists on my system via apt [15:53] !source | pikapika [15:53] pikapika: You can easily fetch a package's source with apt-get. See: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html [15:54] How do you apply the diffs? [15:54] which diffs? usually using 'patch' [15:55] E: Unable to find a source package for vlc interesting...had I installed it from elsewhere? === joaquinito01 is now known as [12345] [15:58] I guess I had used the snap === [12345] is now known as joaquinito01 [16:02] pikapika: you will need to add deb-src lines to your apt configuration [16:03] but then the documentation ubottu provided you with said so === nameNick is now known as [31328] [16:04] > To accomplish this, the deb-src entry in your /etc/apt/sources.list should be pointed at unstable. It should also be enabled (uncommented). See section The /etc/apt/sources.list file, Section 2.1. [16:05] does 'unstable' affect anything else? [16:05] oh wait [16:05] thats not relevant to me [16:06] pikapika: it's debian documentation, so, yes, it doesn't apply to you [16:10] apt-cache show vlc states: [16:10] >Section: universe/graphics [16:10] So is this the deb-src line I must uncomment? [16:13] you'll need a deb-src line for the universe repository, right [16:14] usually you'll already have that, commented out, in /etc/apt/sources.list [16:14] yes I had to uncomment it [16:14] so after the apt update is done [16:15] apt source vlc [16:15] will just download some tarballs to current dir right? [16:15] instead of spreading files everywhere on the system? [16:15] *apt-get source vlc [16:16] it won't spread files everywhere on the system [16:16] the sources I get will correspond exactly to the specific version I have installed right now yes? [16:17] i believe the documentation discusses this. [16:19] doesn't seem to have anything about this matter, though it seems intuitive to me that it should download sources corresponding to the current version of vlc I have [16:20] The versions do seem to match now that its downloading the sources [16:20] Thanks a lot tomreyn [16:22] you're welcome. [16:22] make sure not to miss the UPPER CASE NOTE about support status of the universe repository in sources.list [16:23] Yes I did read that [16:23] Though if I submit a patch, it should be possible that they accept it right? [16:25] they being the ubuntu community? maybe. [16:26] You meant this message I hope: [16:26] ## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the Ubuntu [16:26] ## team. Also, please note that software in universe WILL NOT receive any [16:26] ## review or updates from the Ubuntu security team. [16:26] !paste [16:26] For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [16:26] but yes, i did. [16:27] well I thought 3 lines was short enough to not bother with a paste [16:27] "multi-line" [16:37] tomreyn, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/MZm5Bg45tg/ [16:37] Does this mean the vlc_3.0.8-0ubuntu18.04.1.debian.tar.xz was automatically applied or not? [16:37] It seems to have already created a directory and unpacked the files there [16:38] Files: vlc-3.0.8 vlc_3.0.8-0ubuntu18.04.1.debian.tar.xz vlc_3.0.8-0ubuntu18.04.1.dsc vlc_3.0.8.orig.tar.xz [16:38] where vlc-3.0.8 is the directory in question [16:46] anybody here use xubuntu? i downloaded the iso but how do i verify it with md5 sha256 hash [16:48] !verify | klu3 [16:48] klu3: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows [16:49] klu3: sha256sum nameofiso [16:49] hmm, i thought this got updated [16:49] https://ubuntu.com/tutorials/how-to-verify-ubuntu [16:51] thank you for replies but i cannot find the key on xubuntu website to verify stuff https://xubuntu.org/download/ [16:52] holy shit configure is 60000+ lines long [16:52] ubuntu, lubuntu has it but not xubuntu [16:54] ubottu: nevermind i found it from the tutorial on that link [16:54] klu3: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [16:54] klu3: these files are located on the mirror server you downloaded the .iso file from, right next to the iso file, and there are directory indexes. [16:54] tomreyn: thanks dude [16:54] thank you all i will save this link for future references [16:55] autotools have become really intricate it seems [16:55] !discuss | pikapika [16:55] pikapika: Want to talk about Ubuntu, but don't have a support question? /join #ubuntu-discuss for non-support Ubuntu discussion, or try #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat. Thanks! [16:55] Sorry [16:56] klu3: http://mirror.us.leaseweb.net/ubuntu-cdimage/xubuntu/releases/20.04/release/ [16:59] pavlos: yep, thnx you [17:56] would ubuntu 20.04 LTS get Gnome-shell 3.36.5? [17:57] https://packages.ubuntu.com [17:59] package versions will usually remain the same, other than for patch levels. [17:59] it's a point release for bug fixes and what not [17:59] no major changes [18:00] https://packages.ubuntu.com/focal/gnome/gnome-shell [18:00] shows 3.36.1 [18:00] are you asking a question, or making a statement? [18:01] this is a statement lol [18:01] https://packages.ubuntu.com/focal-updates/gnome/gnome-shell [18:01] shows 3.36.4 [18:01] so I think it would get updated to 3.36.5? [18:01] now this is the question [18:02] i don't think anyone can answer this. what you have shown is that gnome-shell has gone through a stable release upgrade process within ubuntu 20.04, an exception that is sometimes made. [18:03] this doesn't mandate that another such exception will be made in the future. [18:04] ah so even the point released are fixed in ubuntu LTS? [18:04] sorry new to ubuntu [18:05] the point releases* [18:06] i do not understand the question, please rephrase [18:07] point releases are ubuntu minor releases such as 20.04(.0), 20.04.1 (there will be more in the future) [18:07] those are just 'refreshed installers' basically. [18:08] Ubuntu 20.04 released with gnome-shell 3.36.1, my question is the point releases for gnome-shell (meaning 3.36.x) are fixed through out Ubuntu 20.04 life [18:09] !lastest [18:09] are would gnome-shell 3.36.x be updated because it's not a major release of gnome [18:09] !latest [18:09] Packages in Ubuntu may not be the latest. Ubuntu aims for stability, so "latest" may not be a good idea. Post-release updates are only considered if they are fixes for security vulnerabilities, high impact bug fixes, or unintrusive bug fixes with substantial benefit. See also !backports, !sru, and !ppa. [18:09] !sru [18:09] Stable Release Update information is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates [18:09] I know man, I'm not asking about gnome-shell 3.38 [18:10] it's still gnome-shell 3.36 just with extra bug fixes [18:10] ubuntu 20.04 got updated to gnome-shell 3.36.4 was that a one off or would it get update to 3.36.5? [18:11] gnome-shell version numbers 3.36.1 3.36.4 and 3.36.5 are upstream version numbers. ubuntu patch levels are appended to those [18:11] if the upstream version changes it indicates that a newer upstream release is being shipped [18:12] so it would get to ubuntu 20.04 [18:12] ? [18:12] asking because I want this bug fix [18:12] https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/-/merge_requests/1366 [18:13] and this [18:13] https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/-/merge_requests/1375 [18:13] both are in 3.36.5 [18:13] and not in 3.36.4 [18:15] not automatically, only through an exception, i.e. SRU [18:15] you should read the documentation provided [18:36] Hi. How do I find out what keyboard model to select in `sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration`. [18:36] I have a Lenovo Thinkpad T460 [18:41] how to start a gui session in a tty session [18:42] sumagna: 'startx' [18:42] didnt work [18:43] sumagna: then you have problem [18:46] sumagna: or open x session on another tty session [18:49] Industrial: laptop keyboards usually have a lower number of keys than standard sized keyboards. however, you are often fine with selecting the default keyboard for the locale you have there. [18:50] Industrial: if you don't know which locale or keyboard you have, there should be an option where you just type some characters and this is used to identify your keyboard layout. [18:55] tomreyn: Okay, the only key not working correctly is the backslash atm [18:58] can't comment on this, i don't even know which keyboard locale or exact t460 model you have [19:04] tomreyn: okay, thanks [19:22] Can I stop something from being removed? Trying to install something, and getting "the following packages will be REMOVED"... [19:23] The removal throws errors, causing the whole process to abort [19:23] I'm installing the thing that would hopefully fix those errors [19:23] add what's being removed as a second package to be installed [19:24] but the real problem you'Re dealing with there is use of incompatible package sources [19:24] apt sources [19:25] or leftover packages, or similar. apt-forktracer canhelp you sort this out and clean up the mess. === coconut__ is now known as coconut [19:29] Can i ask about software/app/related recommendation here? [19:30] perroud: please use #ubuntu-discuss for this [19:30] tyvm @tomreyn [19:31] !register | perroud:you may need to do this [19:31] perroud:you may need to do this: For information on registering your IRC nick, see https://freenode.net/kb/answer/registration - For any further help, ask in #freenode. [19:31] ah, apparently not. [19:32] can we register nickname at freenode? (efnet feelings lol) [19:33] perroud /msg nickserv help register [19:34] yours is already registered, and you're logged in. [19:40] I recently installed 20.04 on hp laptop with kde desktop, and bloaty websites are very sluggish in chrome or firefox [19:41] bloaty = new reddit, discord, twitter, etc [19:41] any suggestions to diagnose or fix issue would be appreciated [19:43] how much ram do you have installed there? [19:44] 16 GB I think [19:44] only like 2 being used [19:45] total used free shared buff/cache available [19:45] Mem: 15888 2019 6430 2063 7439 11467 [19:45] is graphics acceleration working? [19:46] which graphics hardware is in use, which driver? [19:46] apparently it's completely disabled on linux for chrome [19:46] amdgpu [19:46] it has a vega gpu [19:46] but I tried toggling it on chrome to little/no effect [19:47] it is enabled on firefox [19:47] at least box is checked [19:47] what is "it"? [19:47] hardware acceleration [19:47] oh, i see [19:47] are all updates installed? [19:47] !uptodate [19:47] To ensure you have all the latest known patches and security updates for your ubuntu installation, please update with the following command: `sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade`. See also !upgrades and !security; you may also need to run `apt full-upgrade`. [19:47] I guess this article is kinda old https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2018/10/hardware-acceleration-chrome-linux [19:48] ...and did you reboot since [19:48] I think that's what I saw saying it didn't work on linux [19:48] I do have some pending libsdl updates [19:49] my understanding is that web browsers still don't support/enable, by default graphics acceleration on linux. [19:49] I'll try that and reboot [19:49] thanks [19:49] What DNS in use? [19:49] default I guess [19:49] I didn't change anything [19:49] att [19:50] oke, some dns services can be slower.. [19:50] do updates first :-) [19:50] if it's still a problem after reboot, post journalctl -b -p3 | nc termbin.com 9999 [19:50] most pages seem fine, it's just very noticeable on new reddit and discord [19:50] ok, biab [19:53]