[00:13] <hggdh> oerheks, sarnold fixed. Please check & confirm
[00:16] <sarnold> hggdh: yay! thanks :)
[00:27] <oerheks> !cookie | sarnold hggdh
[00:27]  * sarnold carefully breaks the cookie in half
[00:36] <viaSanctus> lol...installing teamviewer 11 on windows...step 1) take breath step 2) press install step 3) work
[00:36] <viaSanctus> instealling the same on ubuntu
[00:37] <viaSanctus> 1) start crying
[00:37] <viaSanctus> 2) wish you never had to
[00:37] <viaSanctus> 3) take a week off work
[00:37] <viaSanctus> 4) pray for answers and not salt on windows by ubuntu support :)
[00:40] <oerheks> install something opensource for ubuntu support?
[00:40] <oerheks> that binairy blob works, or not.
[00:43] <viaSanctus> or that, forgot about all the other software advice
[00:43] <viaSanctus> as in "nope wont work"
[00:43] <viaSanctus> i have vnc, nomachine and remote shell on this machine
[00:43] <viaSanctus> but you know...life isn't about me, there's businesses to run and some of those want teamviewer..AND an old version AND on "ubuntu"
[00:43] <viaSanctus> so yeah
[00:43] <viaSanctus> there you are...frustrated as hell
[00:44] <viaSanctus> and im not the kind of person that really cares about image you know and has lost all his hair by his 50th..nah..fuck that..i'll let it go
[00:45] <viaSanctus> and talk about it :)
[00:45] <oerheks> good luck!\
[00:46] <viaSanctus> found this ambitious guy: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1261116/teamviewer-11-wont-work-on-ubuntu-20-login-screen
[00:46] <viaSanctus> lol
[00:46] <viaSanctus> dude actually went for it :)
[00:47] <viaSanctus> :p im actually laughing with near tears in eyes...where have we ended up in
[00:47] <sarnold> rebuild teamviewer for 64 bit?
[00:48] <sarnold> that'd remove half the steps from that, anyway
[00:48] <viaSanctus> its not the arch
[00:48] <viaSanctus> they stopped supporting certain dependencies
[01:06] <viaSanctus> what does
[01:06] <viaSanctus> MimeType=*/*; do (wrong) in org.kde.kdeconnect_open.desktop?
[02:11] <tatertotz> viaSanctus: i'm sure there are other methods besides teamviewer to administer a remote Ubuntu desktop PC
[02:12] <tatertotz> viaSanctus: sucks though since you're accustomed to teamviewer
[02:12] <RingtailedFox> remoteVNC?  winswitch? xpra?
[02:13] <sarnold> ssh?
[02:13] <oerheks> hint: vnc, nomachine and remote shell .. what is running and using ports?
[02:42] <viaSanctus> tatertotz, the "biggest" difference i notice about MS users and "open source" users is (despite the fact MS is betting on open source and corporate businesses DO run open source) is that open source have this "small business" mindset...as in "just do this or that"...
[02:43] <viaSanctus> sometimes there's this "requirements set"
[02:43] <viaSanctus> and you just have to do it
[02:43] <viaSanctus> and I KNOW there's a lot better stuff out there
[02:43] <viaSanctus> trust me i know
[02:44] <viaSanctus> if someone asks me "i want to kill myself eating easter eggs"...i'll try to figure out how
[02:44] <viaSanctus> not answer "just jump under a train"
[02:46] <sarnold> bummer, viasanctus has failed the xy test
[03:07] <davido_> Every so often I see a little icon in the top bar that looks like a power cord with three dots in front of it. Any idea what that could be?
[03:07] <davido_> It appears, and then leaves before I can investigate
[03:11] <davido_> https://upload.picpaste.me/image/kuJ2e
[03:11] <davido_> That little power cord icon. It shows up for a second or so, and then disappears.
[03:20] <davido_> It appears that boltd is probing the thunderbolt device. My dock has behaved satisfactorily for a couple years, so I can't imagine what the issue is now.
[05:10] <ViperXL75> Guys? I've been noticing a scary behaviour on my Ubuntu20.04 machine. I have 2 physical drives. They're both Ext4. When I copy a file from 1 drive to another drive, it looks like it copies the file instantly. And they're more than 2Gb big. These are not SSD drives. So thats impossible. How can this be?!?
[05:12] <tatertotz> ViperXL75: have you compared the files? is the copy successful?
[05:12] <ViperXL75> someone just told me that there is "disc caching" that is playing jokes on me.
[05:12] <ViperXL75> Seems its being copied in the background or so?
[05:13] <tatertotz> so you haven't actually compared the files immediately after making this observation
[05:13] <tatertotz> good luck with that
[05:15] <ViperXL75> which tool can i use to compare them with?
[06:05] <abhi1802> hey Sven_vB
[06:05] <abhi1802> moring
[06:05] <abhi1802> morning
[06:06] <abhi1802> let's try it today once more
[06:29] <jasonsmr> hello ubuntu channel
[06:30] <jasonsmr> question if Im installing from source and package requires a specific version of automake can I substitute? with later version?
[06:33] <tatertotz> jasonsmr: the term "requires" and or "required" suggests a thing is required
[06:34] <jasonsmr> Im having a rough time of it I need to compile something that is out of date
[06:35] <jasonsmr> it requires older libraries
[06:36] <tatertotz> many older out of date, no longer maintained or supported things do require older libraries
[06:38] <jasonsmr> yes I was thinking about using an older version of ubuntu also but I think that may introduce more error
[06:43] <bettencb> This is a question for a raspberry pi, but I know there is probably a fair share of Pi developers in this IRC
[06:43] <bettencb> Does anyone have a solution?...
[06:43] <bettencb> I recently moved my Pi off of my router to a network switch board, & since doing so I haven't been able to use ssh at all to connect to my pi. I had my pi connected to the router on a fixed IP address and obviously the network switch board is wired to my router but the pi doesn't even seem to start as it can't connect to a display either and I receive no flashing green light now as well. I do have a red power light and all was we
[06:45] <tatertotz> bettencb: wow..you can no longer even use a HDMI display on your RasPi, and you can no longer access it via ssh either?...wow ..sounds like you have no way to administer the device now
[06:46] <tatertotz> bettencb: better physically disconnect everything and see if it is still working
[06:46] <bettencb> tatertotz: Can you just take out the sd card to go through files on a Pi or does it not work like that?
[06:47] <bettencb> First time I've ever had this issue where I can't access my pi to debug and I'm just completely lost
[06:47] <tatertotz> bettencb: the RasPi 3B+ has no storage on it's own
[06:47] <bettencb> It's a Pi 4
[06:47] <tatertotz> bettencb: the SDcard is it's only storage
[06:47] <tatertotz> bettencb: same with 4
[06:48] <bettencb> tatertotz: Right, I just didn't know if it was encrypted or anything. It's running ubuntu 19.04 server
[06:49] <bettencb> tatertotz: I've never had to look through a filesystem before like this? I just didn't know if A) that was possible or if B) someone knew what was going on exactly
[06:49] <jasonsmr> question: when I am building from foo.dsc source can I change automake version there?
[06:49] <jasonsmr> I mean like I said my version of auto make is older than needed
[06:49] <tatertotz> bettencb: you can no longer use whatever operating system you had on the pie, since your ssh doesn't work and a HDMI connected monitor doesn't work either
[06:49] <jasonsmr> cross that newer than needed
[06:49] <tatertotz> bettencb: i hope it's not dead
[06:50] <jasonsmr> lol its late
[06:52] <tatertotz> bettencb: you don't have to "look" at it's filesystem now either....since HDMI display doesn't work..you can't "look" at anything
[06:52] <bettencb> tatertotz: I know...  I didn't know if when I set the fixed IP address on the router if I somehow binded the mac address to the router and only the router will give it access? The network switch is behind the firewall obviously but the Pi connected to the router would of been behind the firewall too? So I'm just lost...
[06:53] <tatertotz> bettencb: put it back in its original place and try to ssh
[06:53] <bettencb> tatertotz: If I take out the SD card though and just plug it into my computer I could go through the filesystem with just my command line though right?
[06:53] <tatertotz> bettencb: HDMI doesn't work
[06:53] <bettencb> I know.... It was such a chore to move
[06:53] <bettencb> lol
[06:53] <bettencb> I appreciate the help though!
[07:10] <tatertotz> bettencb: any progress?
[07:15] <bettencb> tatertotz: not so much. it's like 2am where I'm at tho so I'm not exactly super focused right now
[07:15] <bettencb> I'll prolly tackle it in the morning
[10:00] <nonix4> How do I change Xorg coredump names to something that doesn't overwrite previous one with different one? Affected by multiple different Xorg crashes since latest updates...
[10:08] <tomreyn> nonix4: cat /proc/sys/kernel/core_pattern
[10:10] <tomreyn> see manual page core(5) for details
[10:10] <nonix4> or apport... which appears not to be sending those to errors.ubuntu.com, possibly confused by networkmanager
[10:25] <FreeBDSM> hi, what's the difference between packages vulkan-tools and vulkan-utils?
[10:25] <FreeBDSM> (ubuntu 18.04)
[10:27] <tomreyn> nonix4: by default, Ubuntu would either send to errors.ubuntu.com or keep the error reports in /var/crash, but you shouldn't see core files at all. so i guess you must have modified it, or this is not a standard ubuntu.
[10:29] <tomreyn> !info vulkan-tools bionic
[10:29] <tomreyn> FreeBDSM:^
[10:31] <nonix4> tomreyn: I think it is suffering from the same issue as rest of gui tools, thinking network connectivity is missing because networkmanager doesn't understand partially connected multihomed networking
[10:32] <nonix4> ... using netplan with renderer: networkd but I guess the connectivity checks go through networkmanager anyway?
[10:32] <tomreyn> nonix4: lack of network connectivity wouldn't explain the appearance of core files, though
[10:33] <FreeBDSM> tomreyn: ah, it's ppa ppa.launchpad.net_graphics-drivers_ppa_ubuntu_dists_bionic_main_binary-amd64_Packages
[10:33] <FreeBDSM> thanks
[10:34] <nonix4> tomreyn: umm... you're right, pebcak. Just the .crash getting overwritten by next, not a coredump.
[10:35] <nonix4> not a raw coredump that is, base64'd inside that...
[10:35] <tomreyn> i see, that's normal then
[10:36] <nonix4> is xorg-core being far more recent than invidual xorg drivers normal?
[10:38] <tomreyn> it's not wrong per se.
[10:40] <nonix4> well just wondering since the crashes appear to be a regression related to xorg-core update... whether there could be compatibility issues with older drivers?
[10:40] <nedbat> I'm wondering if I can manually rotate the audit logs? Instead of specifying a file size, i'd like to issue a command to start a new audit.log file. Is that possible?
[10:40] <tomreyn> how do you tell what's more recent and what is older?
[10:40] <tomreyn> nonix4: ^
[10:42] <tomreyn> nedbat: on current ubuntu releases, i don't think there is an audit.log file by default, which one are you running?
[10:42] <nedbat> tomreyn: hmm, i didn't set this up, and my ops guy isn't around now. How can I tell?
[10:42] <tomreyn> nedbat: lsb_release -ds
[10:42] <tomreyn> but if you know it's been customized that's fine
[10:43] <nedbat> tomreyn: 18.04.3 LTS
[10:43] <tomreyn> that's quite outdated
[10:43] <nonix4> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 173344 Oct 22  2019 /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/amdgpu_drv.so <-- contained in xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu 19.1.0-1 while xserver-xorg-core is 2:1.20.8-2ubuntu2.2
[10:43] <nedbat> tomreyn: yes, we have plans to go to 20.04 before April '21 :)
[10:44] <FreeBDSM> `sudo apt-mark showhold` returns nothing. `sudo apt list update && sudo apt list --upgradable` lists 3 packages (xpra, python2-xpra, python3-xpra), yet `sudo apt -y upgrade` says `The following packages have been kept back: python2-xpra python3-xpra xpra     0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 3 not upgraded.` Why does apt refuse to upgrade these 3?
[10:44] <tomreyn> nedbat: 18.04 LTS in itself is fine, but you'r eon minor release 3 whereas you should be on .5 or .6
[10:44] <nedbat> tomreyn: thanks, i'll keep that in mind.
[10:44] <tomreyn> nedbat: this suggests your system may not receive security updates
[10:44] <tomreyn> and may not have done so for a long time
[10:44] <FreeBDSM> .5 is the last 18.04
[10:44] <FreeBDSM> (for now)
[10:45] <nedbat> tomreyn: thanks, I understand.
[10:45] <nedbat> does this affect how i can rotate audit logs?
[10:45] <FreeBDSM> is it time to upgrade 18.04 LTS to 20.04 LTS?
[10:48] <tomreyn> nedbat: no, you should use the logrotate command to totate logs. can't provide more detials now, i have to leave
[10:48] <FreeBDSM> Reviewer Joey Sneddon noted in OMG Ubuntu, "tradition dictates that Ubuntu LTS releases play things safer than the interim so-called "short-term releases" by only including features that Ubuntu developers can commit to maintain for at least five years. Focal doesn't buck that trend. But while this means there are few "omg!" changes in 20.04 there are a number of iterative improvements, usability and user interface refinements, and some
[10:48] <FreeBDSM> much needed updates, spread throughout the whole of the system."
[10:48] <nedbat> tomreyn: thanks, that is helpful
[10:49] <nonix4> tomreyn: ... but anyway good question, since it might be kernel compability instead of between xorg components too.
[10:50] <nonix4> ... guess there is no reasonable way around of needing a remote debug setup if trying to debug xorg?
[10:54] <nonix4> (when single-gpu, but multi-gpu might fall under the "unreasonable" classification too)
[11:05] <coconut> FreeBDSM, probably not yet, as there has not been an article about 18.04.* to 20.04.1 yet on omgubuntu.co.uk
[11:49] <nonix4> Can I dpkg-divert /usr/bin/nm-online to /bin/true and if I do, how badly will that bite my ankle?
[12:02] <floown> Hi
[12:02] <floown> On a Ubuntu dedicated server I try to add a glue record for manage my DNS record for my domains. The syntaxe shoud be hostname.mydomain.tld    or    ns.mydomain.tld    ?
[12:16] <Mystified> Hi all, I have a touch screen laptop, how am I able to make the touck keyboard spread wider across the screen
[12:16] <Mystified> I'd likme alarger keys
[12:17] <Mystified> I'd like larger keys
[12:17] <Mystified> thanks kindly
[12:30] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[12:35] <rana_ans> Hi, so I use ubuntu 18.04 dual boot with windows 10, it sends me to emergency
[12:35] <rana_ans> Mode now
[12:35] <rana_ans> Last time before I shutdown I think I did
[12:35] <rana_ans> sudo apt-get upgrade
[12:35] <rana_ans> Anyone who can help me get out of
[12:36] <rana_ans> Emergency mode?
[12:39] <rana_ans> Anyone with ubuntu 18.04 knowledge?
[12:39] <rana_ans> I tried google but no luck
[12:39] <rana_ans> The solution there doesnt work for me
[12:39] <rana_ans> In fact I have only 12 lines in /etc/fstab
[13:10] <nonix4> does the privates.h:121 link near top of list at https://errors.ubuntu.com/?release=Ubuntu%2020.04&package=xorg-server&period=day&pkg_arch=amd64 work for those with permissions, or is it affected by bug #1863689?
[13:13] <nonix4> s/day/week/ actually...
[13:16] <JeroenK> I' ve been looking for a sort of now playing ticker for like in the header of a browser for example.
[13:17] <JeroenK> Or other ways. Ubuntu 20.04, usually using the Audacious player
[13:17] <tomreyn> nonix4: looks like an instance of 1863689 to me.
[13:36] <bet0x> Hello everyone.
[13:37] <bet0x> For some reason my Ubuntu 20 has like a "slow" start on a ping from console, cannot understand why. On same machine using Windows i don't have the issue, is like slow to resolve and everything.
[13:37] <tomreyn> !YY.MM » bet0x
[13:37] <tomreyn> !YY.MM | bet0x
[13:38] <bet0x> tomreyn, i didn't understand
[13:38] <tomreyn> bet0x: there is no "Ubuntu 20", which ubuntu release is your question about?
[13:38] <bet0x> tomreyn, 20.04
[13:39] <tomreyn> ok!
[13:39] <bet0x> tomreyn, so you know what it is or got an idea?
[13:40] <tomreyn> bet0x: so you open a temrinal window, run "ping iforgottoexplainwhichcommandiranexaxtly.org" and it takes longer than expected to print anything on screen?
[13:41] <bet0x> Yep, including browsing. I tried several "DNS" servers. But it doesn't happen on my other OS.
[13:41] <bet0x> I have a RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller i did a lot of troubleshoot and nothing pops
[13:41] <bet0x> it's wired, no wifi
[13:42] <tomreyn> bet0x: please run    systemd-resolve --status | nc 5.39.93.71 9999     and post the url returned here
[13:43] <bet0x> https://termbin.com/a20xj
[13:43] <bet0x> There
[13:44] <tomreyn> bet0x: what does this report?     nslookup google.com 189.197.62.74
[13:45] <bet0x> ipv4 + ipv6
[13:45] <tomreyn> !paste | bet0x: use a pastebin if more than one line of output
[13:45] <bet0x> i disabled v6 from my connection cause AAAA was taking too long
[13:46] <bet0x> tomreyn, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/BhjRM2pYZ6/
[13:46] <tomreyn> bet0x: how ong did it take to produce this output?
[13:47] <bet0x> right now quick
[13:47] <bet0x> 1 second flat
[13:47] <tomreyn> bet0x: is this as quick?    nslookup example.org 189.197.62.74
[13:47] <bet0x> The DNS server has no issue, it's a weird combination
[13:48] <bet0x> tomreyn, i added "time" so you can see how fast https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/QfWhh5C9zK/
[13:50] <tomreyn> i agree, there seems to be some other problem. could be with ip4 / ipv6 coexsistence.
[13:50] <tomreyn> i'll bbl, need a nap.
[13:58] <nonix4> bet0x: could attempt resolving some of the dnssec test addresses too...
[13:59] <bet0x> tomreyn, well seems i fix it by adding "options single-request-reopen" on /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/base
[13:59] <nonix4> bet0x: https://dnssec.vs.uni-due.de/
[13:59] <bet0x> oh nonix4 i was checking that
[14:00] <bet0x> nonix4, single-request-reopen did the trick
[14:07] <bet0x> nonix4, tomreyn thank you! D
[14:07] <bet0x> :D
[14:13] <kal1M3r0> Hello Guys, there's any one know or suggest what Can I do in this Case   < OS Ubuntu Server>  I have an external 3T. HDD ext4 shared in LAN with SMB, and when I delete Files from Windows clients Machine, Ubuntu don't free up the space..... I have checked every where for any kind of cache or bin.recycle left somewhere in the HDD but without luck... From Disk tool the free space is 500GB but from properties in files the free space its 250GB. I double
[14:13] <kal1M3r0> checked with "sudo baobab" looking for those files and Couldn't find any, looked by terminal with "du -sh ./path-locations* still not any trace of those big file deleted in the past with Windows OS, seen folders such as Trash.1000 etc etc all empty and hidden files doesn't tell much more. Also I did reboot the machine lot of time to avoid some service keep files in hold... no way its not that!      " please anyone know what keep the space up and why disk
[14:13] <kal1M3r0> show me the correct free space and files properties not? "
[14:19] <The_LoudSpeaker> https://github.com/PRATAP-KUMAR/focalgdm3
[14:19] <The_LoudSpeaker> ^ This is cool.
[15:07] <Holiday> anyone else noticing when apache2 is updating, the service isn't being restarted?
[15:09] <Holiday> I've now seen 4 or 5 systems over the past 2 or so days where apache2-data, apache2-bin, apache2, apache2-utils updated but then see: Error: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[15:10] <Holiday> this dpkg error only started showing up after that apt-get in the apt log file showing the apache updates (and it also showed again on the autoremove ran on the 15th)
[15:14] <Holiday> ah seems the apache package is prompting about overwriting the /etc/apache2/apache2.conf config file... which is breaking apt auto updates?
[15:51] <pikapika> How do you get the source code for a particular package?
[15:51] <pikapika> ie not just look up the package "upstream" and download the source from there
[15:52] <pikapika> rather the specific source as was built from for the version that exists on my system via apt
[15:53] <tomreyn> !source | pikapika
[15:54] <pikapika> How do you apply the diffs?
[15:54] <tomreyn> which diffs? usually using 'patch'
[15:55] <pikapika> E: Unable to find a source package for vlc interesting...had I installed it from elsewhere?
[15:58] <pikapika> I guess I had used the snap
[16:02] <tomreyn> pikapika: you will need to add deb-src lines to your apt configuration
[16:03] <tomreyn> but then the documentation ubottu provided you with said so
[16:04] <pikapika> > To accomplish this, the deb-src entry in your /etc/apt/sources.list should be pointed at unstable. It should also be enabled (uncommented). See section The /etc/apt/sources.list file, Section 2.1.
[16:05] <pikapika> does 'unstable' affect anything else?
[16:05] <pikapika> oh wait
[16:05] <pikapika> thats not relevant to me
[16:06] <tomreyn> pikapika: it's debian documentation, so, yes, it doesn't apply to you
[16:10] <pikapika> apt-cache show vlc states:
[16:10] <pikapika> >Section: universe/graphics
[16:10] <pikapika> So is this the deb-src line I must uncomment?
[16:13] <tomreyn> you'll need a deb-src line for the universe repository, right
[16:14] <tomreyn> usually you'll already have that, commented out, in /etc/apt/sources.list
[16:14] <pikapika> yes I had to uncomment it
[16:14] <pikapika> so after the apt update is done
[16:15] <pikapika> apt source vlc
[16:15] <pikapika> will just download some tarballs to current dir right?
[16:15] <pikapika> instead of spreading files everywhere on the system?
[16:15] <pikapika> *apt-get source vlc
[16:16] <tomreyn> it won't spread files everywhere on the system
[16:16] <pikapika> the sources I get will correspond exactly to the specific version I have installed right now yes?
[16:17] <tomreyn> i believe the documentation discusses this.
[16:19] <pikapika> doesn't seem to have anything about this matter, though it seems intuitive to me that it should download sources corresponding to the current version of vlc I have
[16:20] <pikapika> The versions do seem to match now that its downloading the sources
[16:20] <pikapika> Thanks a lot tomreyn
[16:22] <tomreyn> you're welcome.
[16:22] <tomreyn> make sure not to miss the UPPER CASE NOTE about support status of the universe repository in sources.list
[16:23] <pikapika> Yes I did read that
[16:23] <pikapika> Though if I submit a patch, it should be possible that they accept it right?
[16:25] <tomreyn> they being the ubuntu community? maybe.
[16:26] <pikapika> You meant this message I hope:
[16:26] <pikapika> ## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the Ubuntu
[16:26] <pikapika> ## team. Also, please note that software in universe WILL NOT receive any
[16:26] <pikapika> ## review or updates from the Ubuntu security team.
[16:26] <tomreyn> !paste
[16:26] <tomreyn> but yes, i did.
[16:27] <pikapika> well I thought 3 lines was short enough to not bother with a paste
[16:27] <tomreyn> "multi-line"
[16:37] <pikapika> tomreyn, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/MZm5Bg45tg/
[16:37] <pikapika> Does this mean the vlc_3.0.8-0ubuntu18.04.1.debian.tar.xz was automatically applied or not?
[16:37] <pikapika> It seems to have already created a directory and unpacked the files there
[16:38] <pikapika> Files: vlc-3.0.8  vlc_3.0.8-0ubuntu18.04.1.debian.tar.xz  vlc_3.0.8-0ubuntu18.04.1.dsc  vlc_3.0.8.orig.tar.xz
[16:38] <pikapika> where vlc-3.0.8 is the directory in question
[16:46] <klu3> anybody here use xubuntu? i downloaded the iso but how do i verify it with md5 sha256 hash
[16:48] <tomreyn> !verify | klu3
[16:49] <pavlos> klu3: sha256sum nameofiso
[16:49] <tomreyn> hmm, i thought this got updated
[16:49] <tomreyn> https://ubuntu.com/tutorials/how-to-verify-ubuntu
[16:51] <klu3> thank you for replies but i cannot find the key on xubuntu website to verify stuff https://xubuntu.org/download/
[16:52] <pikapika> holy shit configure is 60000+ lines long
[16:52] <klu3> ubuntu, lubuntu has it but not xubuntu
[16:54] <klu3> ubottu: nevermind i found it from the tutorial on that link
[16:54] <tomreyn> klu3: these files are located on the mirror server you downloaded the .iso file from, right next to the iso file, and there are directory indexes.
[16:54] <klu3> tomreyn: thanks dude
[16:54] <klu3> thank you all i will save this link for future references
[16:55] <pikapika> autotools have become really intricate it seems
[16:55] <tomreyn> !discuss | pikapika
[16:55] <pikapika> Sorry
[16:56] <pavlos> klu3: http://mirror.us.leaseweb.net/ubuntu-cdimage/xubuntu/releases/20.04/release/
[16:59] <klu3> pavlos: yep, thnx you
[17:56] <sa-ghosts> would ubuntu 20.04 LTS get Gnome-shell 3.36.5?
[17:57] <tomreyn> https://packages.ubuntu.com
[17:59] <tomreyn> package versions will usually remain the same, other than for patch levels.
[17:59] <sa-ghosts> it's a point release for bug fixes and what not
[17:59] <sa-ghosts> no major changes
[18:00] <sa-ghosts> https://packages.ubuntu.com/focal/gnome/gnome-shell
[18:00] <sa-ghosts> shows 3.36.1
[18:00] <tomreyn> are you asking a question, or making a statement?
[18:01] <sa-ghosts> this is a statement lol
[18:01] <sa-ghosts> https://packages.ubuntu.com/focal-updates/gnome/gnome-shell
[18:01] <sa-ghosts> shows 3.36.4
[18:01] <sa-ghosts> so I think it would get updated to 3.36.5?
[18:01] <sa-ghosts> now this is the question
[18:02] <tomreyn> i don't think anyone can answer this. what you have shown is that gnome-shell has gone through a stable release upgrade process within ubuntu 20.04, an exception that is sometimes made.
[18:03] <tomreyn> this doesn't mandate that another such exception will be made in the future.
[18:04] <sa-ghosts> ah so even the point released are fixed in ubuntu LTS?
[18:04] <sa-ghosts> sorry new to ubuntu
[18:05] <sa-ghosts> the point releases*
[18:06] <tomreyn> i do not understand the question, please rephrase
[18:07] <tomreyn> point releases are ubuntu minor releases such as 20.04(.0), 20.04.1 (there will be more in the future)
[18:07] <tomreyn> those are just 'refreshed installers' basically.
[18:08] <sa-ghosts> Ubuntu 20.04 released with gnome-shell 3.36.1, my question is the point releases for gnome-shell (meaning 3.36.x) are fixed through out Ubuntu 20.04 life
[18:09] <tomreyn> !lastest
[18:09] <sa-ghosts> are would gnome-shell 3.36.x be updated because it's not a major release of gnome
[18:09] <tomreyn> !latest
[18:09] <tomreyn> !sru
[18:09] <sa-ghosts> I know man, I'm not asking about gnome-shell 3.38
[18:10] <sa-ghosts> it's still gnome-shell 3.36 just with extra bug fixes
[18:10] <sa-ghosts> ubuntu 20.04 got updated to gnome-shell 3.36.4 was that a one off or would it get update to 3.36.5?
[18:11] <tomreyn> gnome-shell version numbers 3.36.1 3.36.4 and 3.36.5 are upstream version numbers. ubuntu patch levels are appended to those
[18:11] <tomreyn> if the upstream version changes it indicates that a newer upstream release is being shipped
[18:12] <sa-ghosts> so it would get to ubuntu 20.04
[18:12] <sa-ghosts> ?
[18:12] <sa-ghosts> asking because I want this bug fix
[18:12] <sa-ghosts> https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/-/merge_requests/1366
[18:13] <sa-ghosts> and this
[18:13] <sa-ghosts> https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/-/merge_requests/1375
[18:13] <sa-ghosts> both are in 3.36.5
[18:13] <sa-ghosts> and not in 3.36.4
[18:15] <tomreyn> not automatically, only through an exception, i.e. SRU
[18:15] <tomreyn> you should read the documentation provided
[18:36] <Industrial> Hi. How do I find out what keyboard model to select in `sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration`.
[18:36] <Industrial> I have a Lenovo Thinkpad T460
[18:41] <sumagna> how to start a gui session in a tty session
[18:42] <ledeni> sumagna: 'startx'
[18:42] <sumagna> didnt work
[18:43] <ledeni> sumagna: then you have problem
[18:46] <ledeni> sumagna: or open x session on another tty session
[18:49] <tomreyn> Industrial: laptop keyboards usually have a lower number of keys than standard sized keyboards. however, you are often fine with selecting the default keyboard for the locale you have there.
[18:50] <tomreyn> Industrial: if you don't know which locale or keyboard you have, there should be an option where you just type some characters and this is used to identify your keyboard layout.
[18:55] <Industrial> tomreyn: Okay, the only key not working correctly is the backslash atm
[18:58] <tomreyn> can't comment on this, i don't even know which keyboard locale or exact t460 model you have
[19:04] <Industrial> tomreyn: okay, thanks
[19:22] <luckybunny> Can I stop something from being removed? Trying to install something, and getting "the following packages will be REMOVED"...
[19:23] <luckybunny> The removal throws errors, causing the whole process to abort
[19:23] <luckybunny> I'm installing the thing that would hopefully fix those errors
[19:23] <tomreyn> add what's being removed as a second package to be installed
[19:24] <tomreyn> but the real problem you'Re dealing with there is use of incompatible package sources
[19:24] <tomreyn> apt sources
[19:25] <tomreyn> or leftover packages, or similar. apt-forktracer canhelp you sort this out and clean up the mess.
[19:29] <perroud> Can i ask about software/app/related recommendation here?
[19:30] <tomreyn> perroud: please use #ubuntu-discuss for this
[19:30] <perroud> tyvm @tomreyn
[19:31] <tomreyn> !register | perroud:you may need to do this
[19:31] <tomreyn> ah, apparently not.
[19:32] <perroud> can we register nickname at freenode? (efnet feelings lol)
[19:33] <warsoul> perroud /msg nickserv help register
[19:34] <tomreyn> yours is already registered, and you're logged in.
[19:40] <jwinterm> I recently installed 20.04 on hp laptop with kde desktop, and bloaty websites are very sluggish in chrome or firefox
[19:41] <jwinterm> bloaty = new reddit, discord, twitter, etc
[19:41] <jwinterm> any suggestions to diagnose or fix issue would be appreciated
[19:43] <tomreyn> how much ram do you have installed there?
[19:44] <jwinterm> 16 GB I think
[19:44] <jwinterm> only like 2 being used
[19:45] <jwinterm>               total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available
[19:45] <jwinterm> Mem:          15888        2019        6430        2063        7439       11467
[19:45] <tomreyn> is graphics acceleration working?
[19:46] <tomreyn> which graphics hardware is in use, which driver?
[19:46] <jwinterm> apparently it's completely disabled on linux for chrome
[19:46] <jwinterm> amdgpu
[19:46] <jwinterm> it has a vega gpu
[19:46] <jwinterm> but I tried toggling it on chrome to little/no effect
[19:47] <jwinterm> it is enabled on firefox
[19:47] <jwinterm> at least box is checked
[19:47] <tomreyn> what is "it"?
[19:47] <jwinterm> hardware acceleration
[19:47] <tomreyn> oh, i see
[19:47] <tomreyn> are all updates installed?
[19:47] <tomreyn> !uptodate
[19:47] <jwinterm> I guess this article is kinda old https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2018/10/hardware-acceleration-chrome-linux
[19:48] <tomreyn> ...and did you reboot since
[19:48] <jwinterm> I think that's what I saw saying it didn't work on linux
[19:48] <jwinterm> I do have some pending libsdl updates
[19:49] <tomreyn> my understanding is that web browsers still don't support/enable, by default graphics acceleration on linux.
[19:49] <jwinterm> I'll try that and reboot
[19:49] <jwinterm> thanks
[19:49] <oerheks> What DNS in use?
[19:49] <jwinterm> default I guess
[19:49] <jwinterm> I didn't change anything
[19:49] <jwinterm> att
[19:50] <oerheks> oke, some dns services can be slower..
[19:50] <oerheks> do updates first :-)
[19:50] <tomreyn> if it's still a problem after reboot, post    journalctl -b -p3 | nc termbin.com 9999
[19:50] <jwinterm> most pages seem fine, it's just very noticeable on new reddit and discord
[19:50] <jwinterm> ok, biab
[19:53] <jwinterm> that's actually way better
[19:53] <jwinterm> there was an opengl one pending too
[19:53] <jwinterm> thanks oerheks and tomreyn!
[19:54] <tomreyn> you're welcome
[19:55] <HackerII> thank you for fixing the network program
[19:57] <HackerII> *manager*
[19:57] <oerheks> !cookie | tomreyn
[19:57] <tomreyn> oerheks: :-P
[19:58] <HackerII> ya, tomreyn  is one killer helper, 3 visits ago he helped me with my dell 6420 bios problem.. what a guy.
[19:59] <tomreyn> i did not fix the network program for you, though
[20:02] <HackerII> i know its off topic.. but.. ive been a ubuntu fan since 6.06 .. that being said .. ive tried many flashy versions and they worked like a drag car that broke down 1/2 way down the lane.. and the winner was Ubuntu..
[20:04] <FaTaL_G> I recently upgraded to 20.04 from 18.04, now the system keeps randomly locking up
[20:04] <FaTaL_G> Im not seeing a smoking gun....
[20:05] <FaTaL_G> I'm looking for panic or error in dmesg right???
[20:07] <tomreyn> FaTaL_G: yes, for example
[20:08] <HackerII> is Ubuntu+1 still available ??
[20:10] <FaTaL_G> tomreyn, hey, long time no talk, So when I do that, the only errors I have are for the broadcom chipset for the asus pcie-88. We can ignore those. (and the associate"ACPI Error: Aborting method \_SB.PCI0.SAT0.PRT0._GTF due to previous error (AE_NOT_FOUND) (20190816/psparse-529)"), can I still ignore those?
[20:11] <FaTaL_G> Yhe system boots and runs fine for some time... minutes, hours or days. But Im not seeing any errors or panics.
[20:11] <tomreyn> that's about sata port0 if i'm getting it right, not sure what GTF is, though.
[20:11] <HackerII> I want to say something .. but it may get me into hot water
[20:12] <tomreyn> !ot | HackerII
[20:12] <HackerII> ok
[20:14] <tomreyn> FaTaL_G: so if there are no indications of anything serious going wrong in dmesg / journalctl, you'd need to ensure hardware and (especially mainboard) firmware are in a good state.
[20:14] <FaTaL_G> tomreyn, those errors have been there since 16.04, we discussed them at one point. So unless 20.04 is having crankiness behind the scenes with those, I presume we can still ignore.
[20:15] <tomreyn> i see, my memory has faded, i'm afraid.
[20:15] <FaTaL_G> tomreyn, I didnt look at journalctl, I'll go do that. The firmware and mainboard should be fine. And - the problem only began after upgrading to 20.04. I doubt it is coincidence
[20:15] <tomreyn> !uptodate
[20:16] <FaTaL_G> I am up to date. I do it regularly
[20:16] <tomreyn> and the latest kernel image is both installed and you're running it?
[20:16] <FaTaL_G> how do I check that?
[20:17] <FaTaL_G>  5.4.0-42-generic
[20:18] <tomreyn> cat /proc/version     shows what's running
[20:19] <FaTaL_G> tomreyn: Linux version 5.4.0-42-generic (buildd@lgw01-amd64-038) (gcc version 9.3.0 (Ubuntu 9.3.0-10ubuntu2)) #46-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jul 10 00:24:02 UTC 2020
[20:19] <tomreyn> FaTaL_G: this looks recent
[20:19] <FaTaL_G> I did update upgrade last night, but it didnt prompt to run a new initramfs build or anything
[20:21] <tomreyn> it's the latest
[20:30] <FaTaL_G> tomreyn: so anywhere else I can look for errors?
[20:31] <FaTaL_G> tomreyn: it's locking up and I have no reason to suspect hardware/firmware. Gulp.... do I go back to 18.04? I cannot downgrade Im sure. so this means re-installing from scratch?
[20:31] <tomreyn> FaTaL_G: is the mainboard firmware ("BIOS") up to date?
[20:32] <tomreyn> it's correct that to get from 20.04 to 18.04 you'd need to reinstall
[20:32] <shibboleth> what's the issue?
[20:33] <tomreyn> i assume i already reviewed your systemctl -b   last time?
[20:33] <tomreyn> i meant to write: i assume i already reviewed your    journalctl -b   last time?
[20:33] <FaTaL_G> tomreyn: the last time we worked together, we were looking at the broadcom wireless stuff.
[20:34] <FaTaL_G> I am pretty confident the bios is up to date but I dont update when it is not broken
[20:35] <FaTaL_G> I'll check, but its been stable for years, and I do occasionally upgrade. Im reluctant to touch bios since I know it is stable on 18.04
[20:35] <tomreyn> cool, whatever works best for you
[20:36] <tomreyn> note that 18.04 also gets updates and might no longer work for you now.
[20:36] <FaTaL_G> you mean the bios?
[20:36] <FaTaL_G> oh you mean kernel... understood
[20:36] <tomreyn> i mean ubuntu 18.04 LTS, and the software it provides, incl kernel and microcode updates
[20:37] <tomreyn> and firmware upgrades
[20:37] <FaTaL_G> shibboleth: the issue is that my ubuntu 20.04 install, I use as a router for my home, is locking up randomly, with no errors panics or other indications in dmesg/syslog or journalctl
[20:38] <shibboleth> the router is locking up or your server you also use as a router locks up after upgrading?
[20:38] <FaTaL_G> shibboleth, ubuntu = router = server
[20:38] <shibboleth> look in /var/log/syslog*, kern.log
[20:39] <FaTaL_G> they are the same thing.
[20:39] <shibboleth> no
[20:39] <FaTaL_G> shibboleth, ubuntu = router = server <[20:39] <shibboleth> yeah, i got that
[20:39] <FaTaL_G> ok ;)
[20:39] <shibboleth> but the logs are not the same
[20:40] <FaTaL_G> agreed
[20:40] <shibboleth> paste.debian.net syslog leading up to the bork
[20:41] <FaTaL_G> do you mind if I pm it?
[20:41] <shibboleth> paste.debian.net. then others can pitch in
[20:41] <FaTaL_G> sadly, even though I redirect iptables output, for some irritating reason, it still captures iptable kernel drops in there for a short period
[20:42] <FaTaL_G> so it exposes my ip
[20:42] <tomreyn> use grep or sed then
[20:42] <FaTaL_G> ok
[20:52] <kre10> hey guys, can you help me to install tvheadend on ubuntu 20.X(focal)(raspberry 4)?
[20:53] <FaTaL_G> tomreyn, shibboleth: the log I will post is from todays rollover, it locked up at 3-4PM EST today (so 15-1600), and I rebooted afterwards, so you will see the reboot post.
[20:53] <oerheks>  kre10 what is tvheadend?
[20:53] <kre10>  Tvheadend is a TV streaming server and digital video recorder supporting DVB-S, DVB-S2, DVB-C,
[20:54] <tomreyn> !info tvheadend
[20:54] <tomreyn> computer says no
[20:54] <oerheks> not in our repos, i see
[20:54] <oerheks> https://lintut.com/install-tvheadend-on-ubuntu-18-04-server/
[20:55] <kre10> :(  so, only with snap?
[20:56] <oerheks> there is a snap, indeed https://snapcraft.io/tvheadend
[21:01] <kre10> where snap stores his conf files? And where this package is compiled from?
[21:01] <kre10> Thank you!
[21:01] <oerheks> not sure it stores in ~/snap/<name>
[21:02] <kre10> OK, thank you so much!
[21:28] <FaTaL_G> tomreyn, shibboleth: [ sed  's/[0-9]+\.[0-9]+\.[0-9]+\.[0-9]+/###.###.###.###/g' /var/log/syslog] doesn't seem to change anything, do you see something wrong?
[21:29] <FaTaL_G> I realize its read only - but shouldn't the displayed output be what I want, and I can save it or run pastebinit?
[21:33] <shibboleth> FaTaL_G, just paste.ubuntu.com syslog leading up to the crash/lock
[21:35] <tomreyn> FaTaL_G: provide an example of a line you're trying to remove off the logs you'll be sharing
[21:36] <FaTaL_G> tomreyn, I just want to remove the ips, like I said.
[21:37] <FaTaL_G> I want help, but Im not about to post my ip address to the channel since the majority of people in this channel are #rando, and the machine we are working on is forward facing, *(it is the router)
[21:38] <tomreyn> journalctl -b | grep -P '(?:[0-9]{1,3}\.){3}[0-9]{1,3}' | nc termbin.com 9999
[21:38] <jeremy31> FaTaL_G: maybe open the file in gedit and do a find/replace on the ips
[21:38] <tomreyn> oh wait
[21:38] <tomreyn> journalctl -b | grep -vP '(?:[0-9]{1,3}\.){3}[0-9]{1,3}' | nc termbin.com 9999
[21:39] <FaTaL_G> Aug 15 17:27:16 TARDIS dhclient[1364]: bound to 111.111.111.111 -- renewal in 3379 seconds.
[21:39] <tomreyn> forgot the v, sorry
[21:39] <tomreyn> this will still tell us about ipv6 addresses, mac addresses, serial numbers etc.
[21:40] <FaTaL_G> I have ipv6 disabled
[21:40] <FaTaL_G> so I believe
[21:42] <FaTaL_G> tomreyn: dont you want the state of network activity? that will remove/skip all lines with it?
[21:46] <tomreyn> FaTaL_G: i don't mind too much
[21:47] <tomreyn> your sed does seem to work, though:   journalctl -b | sed -E 's/[0-9]+\.[0-9]+\.[0-9]+\.[0-9]+/###.###.###.###/g'
[21:51] <LiftLeft> would there be any way to prevent brave from know when my headphones unplugged. when my headphones get unplugged videos get paused. It's really annoying
[21:51] <tomreyn> !info brave
[21:53] <LiftLeft> based on chromuim
[21:53] <FaTaL_G> tomreyn, yes it seems to work on journalctl, but not on the syslog output
[21:53] <oerheks> LiftLeft, how did you install brave? and on what ubuntu version aetc
[21:54] <LiftLeft> 18.04
[21:54] <LiftLeft> Debian package install
[21:55] <LiftLeft> doesn't look like there's way to disable in the brave
[21:55] <LiftLeft> *it
[21:57] <oerheks> what version of brave?
[21:58] <oerheks> maybe our snapstore gives a newer version, https://snapcraft.io/install/brave/ubuntu#install
[21:59] <tomreyn> FaTaL_G: so work with jounralctl then?
[21:59] <LiftLeft> it was added it in chrome in 2019 or something
[21:59] <LiftLeft> I guess I could use an older verson
[21:59] <oerheks> ?
[22:00] <tomreyn> FaTaL_G: i don't really like the idea of waiting for an hour for a chance to maybe review some log output, though,w e need to get better there.
[22:00] <LiftLeft> it's "feature"
[22:00] <LiftLeft> *a
[22:00] <FaTaL_G> tomreyn, shibboleth: https://termbin.com/vet4   It locked up today between 1500 & 1600
[22:00] <LiftLeft> not a "bug"
[22:00] <oerheks> reset the .config/ folder for brave?
[22:01] <LiftLeft> oerheks, you can't disable it
[22:01] <oerheks> oke, so you bring up an issue about software we don't contrll
[22:01] <oerheks> lolz
[22:02] <LiftLeft> I wanted to know if there's a way to prevent it from knowing it was paused by doing something through the operating system
[22:02] <FaTaL_G> tomreyn, I'm betting you I'm more irritated that it has taken me this long to get one pasted for you. I really wish I could redirect it all before it ever gets written there
[22:08] <tomreyn> FaTaL_G: can you do the same for the last but one log? -b -1
[22:09] <tomreyn> journalctl -b -1 | tail -n 300 | sed -E 's/[0-9]+\.[0-9]+\.[0-9]+\.[0-9]+/###.###.###.###/g' | nc termbin.com 9999
[22:09] <tomreyn> just the last 300 lines ought to be enough to see where it's failing
[22:09] <FaTaL_G> it didnt give me any output
[22:09] <FaTaL_G> same url?
[22:10] <tomreyn> no, it'd be a new url
[22:11] <tomreyn> there's a brcmfmac oops
[22:11] <FaTaL_G> tomreyn, shibboleth, https://termbin.com/wlvm
[22:11] <FaTaL_G> tomreyn, yes, there is. lol. its ok, you SHOULD be able to ignore it
[22:12] <FaTaL_G> I really want to make it work right, and have not tried since I upgraded to 20.04, but it has never caused this issue
[22:12] <LiftLeft> I dunno I'll use duck tape
[22:12] <LiftLeft> *just
[22:18] <tomreyn> FaTaL_G: if it doesn't work anyways, then don't load it (blacklist it), see if this helps with stability?
[22:20] <FaTaL_G> tomreyn, I am am to make it work, but not without the errors on load. but ok, I can blacklist it. since clearly it is never going to be supported legitimately
[22:21] <FaTaL_G> *able. I reallllllllllllllllllllly want to get a quality ac speed card on that box.
[22:21] <tomreyn> so blacklisting is worth a try, if just temporarily to see whether it'll help with stability. how long does it take to freeze? how do you know it freezes?
[22:25] <XAEA-12> are snaps/flatpaks faster or slower than normal apt packages?
[22:26] <FaTaL_G> tomreyn, it is quite random. Yesterday it froze 5 times. today so far, once. the day before, not at all. I know it is frozen because if I go to the machine itself, I cant get a terminal up, caps lock does not light the keyboard at all.
[22:27] <FaTaL_G> an active terminal session is unresponsive to pressing keys. of course, my ssh seesion isnt working either.
[22:28] <tomreyn> FaTaL_G: i see, so sysrq would probably not work then either. i don't see anything serious on the logs. so feels like a hardware / microcode / firmware problem to me, still.
[22:28] <FaTaL_G> tomreyn, can I raise a log level to dig in deeper?
[22:29] <tomreyn> on which service?
[22:29] <shibboleth> FaTaL_G, also, set up dmesg to pipe output to another box or file
[22:29] <tomreyn> you can try https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Debugging as well
[22:30] <FaTaL_G> and is there anything I can do to STOP (for example), [Aug 15 15:47:35 TARDIS kernel: iptables-dropped:IN=eno1 OUT= MAC= SRC=###.###.###.### DST=###.###.###.### LEN=118 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=255 ID=37370 DF PROTO=UDP SPT=5353 DPT=5353 LEN=98 ]
[22:30] <tomreyn> especially 'system crash' and 'linux-crashdump' and 'netconsole' on the above link
[22:32] <FaTaL_G> tomreyn: I already have a  " /etc/rsyslog.d/10-iptables.conf" with [:msg, regex, "^\[ *[0-9]*\.[0-9]*\] iptables" -/var/log/iptables.log] in it, but that aint working?
[22:33] <tomreyn> rsyslog doesn't affect journald, i think
[22:33] <tomreyn> but you can always filter output from that
[22:33] <tomreyn> or modify kernel.printk
[22:33] <FaTaL_G> filter it pre or post?
[22:34] <FaTaL_G> I'd prefer to redirect since it is sometimes useful. I also do not want to filter something very necessary inadvertently and then someday chase my tail.
[22:35] <tomreyn> you can have journalctl output filtering. and you can have rsyslog filtering for log files (which journald is not)
[22:36] <tomreyn> journalctl -b | grep -v "IN=.*OUT=.*"   may be good enough
[22:37] <tomreyn> you can also apply log limiting to iptables directly https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Iptables#Limiting_log_rate
[22:40] <tomreyn> try also booting without microcode updates by supplying kernel parameter dis_ucode_ldr
[22:41] <tomreyn> just to see whether you gain stability that way
[22:42] <tomreyn> your bios version is the latest from oct 2019, but during boot ubuntu updates the microcode to revision 0xd6, date = 2020-04-23
[22:43] <tomreyn> FaTaL_G: that's all i can think of. i wouldn't poke too long before you try 18.04 for a while, though (can be booted off removable media, as long as that is writable, so you don't need to remove the 20.04 installation)
[22:45] <tomreyn> try on 18.04 fully updated, though. if it happens there, too, it's hardware testing time.
[22:47] <FaTaL_G> I actually like iptables logging everything, it is acting as a router so all I need to care about eventually is disk space and rotate
[22:50] <FaTaL_G> tomreyn, before I updated to 20.04, only what 2 weeks ago? I was current on 18.04and stable.
[22:50] <FaTaL_G> actually, come to think of it, I think I was stable on 20.04, but had a few othr things to work out. It only became unstable ~ 4 days ago
[22:51] <FaTaL_G> maybe a week.I really wish I could report a bug and a reason.
[22:53] <tomreyn> run a memtest over night, if you can take it out of operation for that long
[23:07] <FaTaL_G> tomreyn: is it a reportable bug that I've explicitly defined the rule above for rsyslog.d/ and yet it still records entries in the syslog?
[23:08] <LONGMAN> hi
[23:16] <Jordan_U> FaTaL_G: I haven't read all of your past scrollback, so apologies if you have already answered this. Have you tried running from an Ubuntu 20.04 LiveUSB for a few days? If it doesn't lock up in the LiveUSB environment, then it's likely a software issue, and we may be able to work out what about your system is different from a default install configuration. If it does lock up, you can try an Ubuntu 18.04
[23:16] <Jordan_U> LiveUSB. If it locks up as well, then it's almost certainly a hardware issue.
[23:18] <rr123> ubuntu 20.04 snd_hda_intel kept losing audio, only reboot can fix
[23:18] <rr123> options snd-hda-intel dmic_detect=0
[23:18] <administrador> Hi. I am in Ubuntu 20.04. How do I rename the file extension of 100 files in the terminal?
[23:19] <Jordan_U> rr123: When you lose audio, do you get any error messages or UI indications that something has happened? (Or can you only tell because you literally stop hearing sound)
[23:20] <Jordan_U> administrador: https://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ/030
[23:22] <rr123> Jordan_U: just checked settings and found the audio output was somehow switched to hdmi lcd after a suspend
[23:24] <administrador> Jordan_U, NICE, I would have never guessed all of those weird brackets and symbols in the command line....  for f in *.jpg; do mv -- "$f" "${f%.jpg} .webp"; done
[23:24] <administrador> thx
[23:24] <Jordan_U> administrator: You're welcome :)
[23:26] <Jordan_U> rr123: Does switching it back solve your problem then? Going into the "configuration" tab in pavucontrol and disabling the HDMI audio output might prevent it from being switched to automatically again. Also, if you're no longer seeing your analog audio out as an option to switch to, you may need to do the reverse and enable the analog audio out in the "configuration" tab of pavucontrol.
[23:37] <tripleb> Tripelb tries again. I want to trun the autoarrange on the desktop OFF. I dont get that choice when I rclick on the desktop...)
[23:41] <ST47> Is there somehing I have to do after editing the sudoers file with "visudo"? I added a "NOPASSWD" directive for my current user and a certain command, but sudo is still prompting me for a password
[23:55] <D2R2> exit
[23:55] <D2R2> #exit
[23:57] <oerheks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sudoers .. logout and login?
[23:59] <ST47> I've actually just rebooted and still being prompted for a password
[23:59] <ST47> I'll read that wiki page