| studiobot | <Eickmeyer> @teward001 I completely forgot about lp:new-session-manager and lp:dragonfly-reverb needing reuploads. | 15:50 |
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| studiobot | <Eickmeyer> new-session-manager had a binary namespace issue and dragonfly-reverb had some unused copyright lines (upstream removed a lot of stuff). | 15:51 |
| OvenWerks | Eickmeyer: sorry for the rant to the rant on the mail list... | 16:52 |
| Eickmeyer | OvenWerks: No, I 100000% agree with you, but not sure about the PC going away. The gaming market is too rich. | 16:52 |
| Eickmeyer | My method was deflection, your method was more pointing-out how myopic his assumptions are. Unfortunately, that's the author of our (now outdated) audio handbook which may end-up disappearing. | 16:54 |
| OvenWerks | Eickmeyer: those guys: A) don't buy PCs, they make them and B) are willing to spend mac like prices or more. | 16:54 |
| OvenWerks | Eickmeyer: I do not know of any local computer store where one can go in and buy a game ready PC. | 16:56 |
| OvenWerks | maybe I am looking on the wrong shelf or something | 16:56 |
| OvenWerks | Eickmeyer: can I get you to test something? If you have a copy of carla 2.2 around still. | 16:59 |
| OvenWerks | If you could try the recipe in my last comment at: https://github.com/falkTX/Carla/issues/1237 | 17:00 |
| OvenWerks | See if either Carla freezes or at least zita-a2j seg faults | 17:00 |
| studiobot | <teward001> @Eickmeyer [@teward001 I completely forgot about lp:new-session-manager and lp:dragonfly-rev …], ok i'll add it to the list | 17:00 |
| Eickmeyer | OvenWerks: I'll give it a shot. | 17:01 |
| OvenWerks | I have found the fresh reboot is not needed... untill after :P | 17:02 |
| Eickmeyer | OvenWerks: I don't know how to accomplish step 2. What's the command line for that? | 17:08 |
| OvenWerks | jack_control start | 17:09 |
| OvenWerks | studio controls uses jack_control intyernally | 17:09 |
| OvenWerks | so it is ok to start jack using controls | 17:10 |
| OvenWerks | Eickmeyer: ^^ | 17:11 |
| Eickmeyer | OvenWerks: I just tried it, and by step 9 could not reproduce. Carla is not frozen for me. | 17:13 |
| Eickmeyer | However, zita-a2j did segfault. | 17:13 |
| OvenWerks | you will find it does not with carla 2.1 I think | 17:13 |
| Eickmeyer | I'm using Carla 2.2-RC1 in groovy. | 17:14 |
| OvenWerks | I think carla has a bloated jack callback | 17:14 |
| Eickmeyer | Well, like I said, couldn't reproduce starting at step 9. | 17:14 |
| Eickmeyer | Carla did not freeze for me. | 17:15 |
| OvenWerks | quite probably a callback for jack graph change or something | 17:15 |
| OvenWerks | I understand. That may be a difference in usb hardware or cpu or whatever | 17:16 |
| Eickmeyer | That's my guess. In this case, I'm using an old 2010 Mac Mini as the hardware. Didn't test with my main system which uses a USB audio interface (not a cheap one) as its main sound card 90% of the time. | 17:17 |
| OvenWerks | It is interesting that zita-j2a for me does not freeze Carla but does also segfault | 17:17 |
| Eickmeyer | That tells me there might be an issue with the zita-ajbridge code. | 17:18 |
| OvenWerks | possibly, but it doesn't matter if it is zita-ajbridge 0.8.2 or 0.8.4. I tried both | 17:19 |
| OvenWerks | control c is the correct way of stopping zita-ajbridge BTW. anything else leaves a zombie process. | 17:20 |
| OvenWerks | it is also what the author says. | 17:20 |
| Eickmeyer | Huh. Still, a segfault is pretty bad. | 17:22 |
| OvenWerks | I think what happens is that zita when it receives the ctrl c: removes it's jack ports and then tries to shut it's client and fails because carla, on getting a graph changed callback is still busy and so the client close segfaults. | 17:23 |
| OvenWerks | many of the jack callbacks are RT (have to complete within one cycle) and are not supposed to include any call to the jack api. | 17:24 |
| OvenWerks | in my code I have had to save the callback info, set a flag and then have some other code take care of the info saved. | 17:25 |
| OvenWerks | Certainly in python but I also do so in c/c++ code | 17:25 |
| Eickmeyer | Gotcha. Ok, then it comes down to that I couldn't duplicate your issue using a USB headset I own. | 17:28 |
| Eickmeyer | My biggest issue, and what is probably bugging me most at the moment, is how the pulse bridge in Studio Controls in Fedora isn't working properly, if at all. | 17:29 |
| OvenWerks | Eickmeyer: I have a spare partition (20G) I could install if there is an ISO. | 19:18 |
| * OvenWerks has some Ardour work to do too... | 19:32 | |
| RikMills | Eickmeyer: ok, I was just being dumb and tired as I so rarely do pristine-tar stuff. glad you got redkite done :) | 20:45 |
| Eickmeyer | OvenWerks: Yeah, there's an ISO, let me see if I can get the link for you. | 20:55 |
| Eickmeyer | RikMills: So, what I do is "pristine-tar list" which returns a list of what can be checked out. Then I do "pristine-tar checkout {latest tarball}". Then I "mv {tarball} .." to get it in the parent directory. After that, it's just a matter of "debuild -S (-d)" and an upload. | 20:56 |
| Eickmeyer | OvenWerks: What I have won't represent F33 very well (because it's rawhide, and F33 branched earlier this week): https://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org//work/tasks/3671/48863671/Fedora-Jam_KDE-Live-x86_64-Rawhide-20200807.n.0.iso | 21:00 |
| RikMills | Eickmeyer: yep, I was just not thinking properly | 21:19 |
| Eickmeyer | RikMills: Happens to all of us. :) | 21:20 |
| RikMills | indeed (insert Teal'c gif) | 21:23 |
| OvenWerks | Eickmeyer: ok I will check this one first... then maybe upgrade or wait for an iso I can play with. | 21:33 |
| OvenWerks | Eickmeyer: RE: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/jackd-defaults/+bug/1872244 there is no such package that I can see... and it looks like user trouble rather than an actual fault | 21:47 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1872244 in jackd-defaults (Ubuntu) "Jack audio not working on Ubuntu 20.04 running on a Thinkpad Carbon X1 (7th gen)" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 21:47 |
| Eickmeyer | OvenWerks: To be fair, the Rawhide ISO is fairly close. About a week ago they pushed a change to the build system which broke Jam, and they're just now getting it fixed. I use Rawhide because it's developed alongside F33 at this point, and will be until F33 releases. | 21:54 |
| Eickmeyer | OvenWerks: RE bug 18722144, I just invalidated it. You're absolutely right, that was a support request, not a bug. | 21:56 |
| ubottu | Error: Launchpad bug 18722144 could not be found | 21:56 |
| Eickmeyer | er... bug 1872244 | 21:56 |
| ubottu | bug 1872244 in jackd-defaults (Ubuntu) "Jack audio not working on Ubuntu 20.04 running on a Thinkpad Carbon X1 (7th gen)" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1872244 | 21:56 |
| OvenWerks | Eickmeyer: the iso DL keeps dumping out... oh well half way through | 21:58 |
| Eickmeyer | That's very strange. It shouldn't, koji is the "source of truth" for the builds. | 21:59 |
| OvenWerks | right now it says paused | 22:00 |
| OvenWerks | must have been a bad keystroke | 22:01 |
| Eickmeyer | bad keystroke? | 22:01 |
| OvenWerks | That paused it. | 22:01 |
| Eickmeyer | Ah, downloading now? | 22:01 |
| OvenWerks | but it failed about 20 sec after resume... restarted and quite again. | 22:02 |
| Eickmeyer | Ok, maybe I can get it on my nextcloud. | 22:02 |
| Eickmeyer | Oof, upload is going to take over an hour. Keep trying. | 22:04 |
| OvenWerks | seems to be stuck at 1.3 Gb | 22:05 |
| Eickmeyer | Might be because Koji isn't mirrored, so you're downloading directly from the datacenter in WA DC. | 22:06 |
| Eickmeyer | Though, I'm experiencing some slowness too. Might just be congestion everywhere. | 22:07 |
| OvenWerks | my restart from 0 made it past 1.3 this time. | 22:27 |
| Eickmeyer | Oh good. | 22:27 |
| Eickmeyer | My upload still has 39 minutes, so it would be nice if your download finished before my upload. | 22:27 |
| OvenWerks | now failing at 1.8... | 22:31 |
| Eickmeyer | *sigh* | 22:38 |
| OvenWerks | made it to 1.9 | 22:40 |
| Eickmeyer | Well, that's progress. | 22:47 |
| OvenWerks | firefox fails to open a file browser... I think it is hard coded to nautilus :P | 23:02 |
| OvenWerks | anyway, it finally finished | 23:02 |
| Eickmeyer | It shouldn't. It's hardcoded to xdg-open. | 23:03 |
| OvenWerks | maybe kubuntu does not have that set up... or maybe I am remembering xfce but that was set with thunar as favoured file manager | 23:07 |
| OvenWerks | everything else opens the right file browser | 23:08 |
| Eickmeyer | In Groovy xdg-open is set for Dolphin. | 23:08 |
| Eickmeyer | Studio Groovy. | 23:10 |
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