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[11:20] <xu-irc34w> hello! I have a quick question, does anybody know when is 20.04.1 to be released?
[11:24] <coconut> xu-irc34w, that is released, only the upgrade path not yet i believe
[11:26] <xu-irc34w> oh, it's just that at https://xubuntu.org/download it says 20.04, while at ubuntu, or budgie it already says 20.04.1
[11:27] <coconut> xu-irc34w, try https://cdimage.ubuntu.com/
[11:27] <coconut> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/20.04.1/release/
[11:28] <xu-irc34w> cool, thanks, coconut, I'll now proceed to install it, cheers!
[11:28] <coconut> website still needs to be upgraded
[11:28] <coconut> :)
[15:29] <ZampNoxis> Hello, this is my first time using this channel. I've been building a retro gaming hobby computer using an older onboard GPU (GeForce 6150. I plan on getting an actual graphics card if I can get the issue I'm about to mention sorted out). I just installed the latest version of Xubuntu and noticed Nvidia settings isn't installed, so I tried installing it and was getting issues. Turns out there were no proprietary drivers installed a
[15:29] <ZampNoxis>  seems Nouveau was used instead. I went on nvidia's site and found the correct driver (304.137) for the onboard GPU. I followed the readme and made sure I met or exceeded the minimum requirements. I went into TTY1, became root, stopped lightdm, ran the installation script, but I ended up getting an error saying "Unable to build the NVIDIA kernel module". I searched apt for nvidia drivers and the earliest drivers there are is 390 I 
[15:29] <ZampNoxis> ve. I tried using a PPA that has the driver I need, but the legacy driver didn't show up in apt search. I think it might have something to do with either having too new of a version of Xorg or that the current kernel doesn't support this legacy driver. Is there a fix to this? Would getting an ATI/AMD card work better?
[15:56] <tomreyn> hi ZampNoxis1
[15:57] <ZampNoxis1> Hello
[15:57] <tomreyn> nvidia supports their hardware with proprietary drivers for a while, and during this while, ubuntu does provide these proprietary drivers, too.
[15:58] <tomreyn> if your hardware depends on this old proprietary driver, then it is no longer supported by nvidias proprietary driver,
[15:59] <tomreyn> amd/ati provide open source drivers (with an optional proprietary overlay, but that is really quite optional and bot supported here and i wouldn't recommend it)
[16:00] <tomreyn> and yes, there are also open source drivers for nvidia graphics chipsets, but they just provide basic functionality and low performance.
[16:01] <tomreyn> that's unlike amd/ati's
[16:23] <ZampNoxis> It doesn't seem like the onboard graphics depends on the proprietary drivers, it's just that I prefer the proprietary ones over Nouveau. I just can't figure out why the .run script keeps failing. I have a log that I can copy and paste to pastebin if that helps
[16:27] <ZampNoxis> I think I might've found the problem. A line in the log reads "/bin/sh: 1: flex: not found" as it seems the script was trying to run flex, but I didn't have it installed
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[16:38] <ZampNoxis> Sorry I keep popping in and out. Pidgin closes out every time I stop lightdm. Now there's a new issue. I installed flex, then got an error saying bison is missing. I installed bison, now the log is saying "make[3]: *** No rule to make target 'arch/x86/tools/relocs_32.c', needed by 'arch/x86/tools/relocs_32.o'.  Stop."
[16:44] <klu3> i downloaded xubuntu 20.04 iso but where can i find the md5 hash its not on the download page so i can verify my iso
[16:56] <tomreyn> we sorted this out in #ubuntu
[16:57] <tomreyn> ZampNoxis: did you notice when i mentioned "not supported"?
[16:58] <tomreyn> i actually mistyped and wrote "bot supported", but meant "not"
[17:00] <klu3> tomreyn: you the bomb! ;)
[17:03] <ZampNoxis> Hmm, if that's the case, then I guess the proprietary drivers are a bust for Nvidia. Not sure if AMD's proprietary drivers, but it sounds like they're most likely in the same boat. It sounds like my best option might be to go with an ATI/AMD card (I'm looking to use a card from circa 2005) and use the open source drivers since nvidia's open source drivers aren't as good
[17:27] <tomreyn> ZampNoxis: 2005 can be tough either way, though i assume an old ati may still be working. i had good enough results with an r300 and r600 card on ubuntu 16.04 some 3 years ago, and assume those may still work on 20.04 with the radeon driver.
[17:27] <tomreyn> https://www.x.org/wiki/RadeonFeature/
[18:07] <xubuntu78i> мяу
[19:17] <ZampNoxis> @tomreyn Thanks for the link. Looking at the features, it looks like it would work. eBay has plenty of ATI GPUs in good shape from that era. I'm not too concerned about the missing or todo features if it doesn't inhibit gameplay
[19:22] <tomreyn> ZampNoxis: do those old graphics cards behave differently or why is it you want one of those?
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[19:36] <ZampNoxis> It's just for a hobby build to get that mid 2000s feel of a pc
[19:45] <tomreyn> i guess you could also get this with a current graphics card, but YMMV
[19:46] <ZampNoxis> I'll take that in consideration. Thank for all the help
[19:46] <ZampNoxis> into*