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ST47Okay, the problem was that my new line was before the "#includedir /etc/sudoers.d" at the bottom of the file. After moving my command after even that line, it works00:02
oerheksST47, good spot00:05
FaTaL_GJordan_U: no I haven't. I could00:42
Jordan_UFaTaL_G: If you'd like some help booting from an iso on your hard drive, so you can get better performance and not depend on a USB drive, I can help you with that.00:50
XAEA-12is ubuntu a good distro for developers?01:32
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tatertotzXAEA-12: humans/developers, tend to be unique, (down to the fingerprint), with varying degrees of decades of experience, what's good for John, may NOT be good for Sam, Sarah and Billy01:44
xbfrogubuntu 20.04 bluetooth keyboard not connecting. removed device and all devices were removed and now i cannot enable bluetooth how can i fix this?01:45
xbfrogit now says no bluetooth found01:45
xbfrogeven tho i turn on any device to pair01:47
FaTaL_GJordan_U: I boot on ssd01:59
alch3mistHi all, I have added a custom resolution in ubuntu, but I seem not to be able to select it, when I select it it either won't accept it, or if visually it seems like it's selected it truly hasn't changed the resolution.02:06
alch3mistany suggestions?02:06
alch3miststeps I took, 1. used CVT to get my custom modeline info, added the newmode, assigned the added mode to my active display02:08
alch3mist(ignore #1 in there, I put than all the steps in one line and forgot to remove "1")02:08
samdragonHello. I totally borked my laptop with a recent upgrade. I can't boot, it fails at initramfs and drops into busybox. Ive searched a bunch and it seems like I should be able to recover if I can reconfigure the initramfs but when I boot into a Live USB, I cant see the internal root harddrive listed with any of the normal utilities. I think it might02:18
samdragonbe due to encryption on the device. Any help or guidance is really appreciated.02:18
gnoobwasn't there something about a GRUB update that broke booting.  Maybe 2 weeks ago maybe less.02:27
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gnoobsamdragon: does this work?02:30
gnoobhttps://alvinabad.wordpress.com/2012/09/22/how-to-recover-a-luks-encrypted-disk/02:30
samdragonthat sounds promising, let me look that up. the other wrinkle is I had tested using the 5.6 kernel for a wifi fix and I think that I was booted up with that kernel when the updates ran. is that really bad or not that bad? Its a 20.04 system so the base kernel was 5.4.4202:30
samdragonthanks gnoob, I'll look at that article right meow02:31
alch3mistgot disconnected, if anyone answered my question above please let me know since I might have missed the response, thanks02:32
gnoobsamdragon: you second question is beyond my knowledge but I know you should be able to boot a previous kernel.  https://starlabs.kb.help/guides/booting-with-a-previous-kernel/02:32
gnoobalch3mist: I scrolled up.  Unfortunately no one replied.02:33
alch3mistthanks for letting me know, gnoob, I'll just stick around then to see if I get any naswers.02:36
samdragongnoob: when I run `cat /proc/partitions` it just shows me the same list of devices as the other utilities.02:48
samdragon```ubuntu@ubuntu:/proc$ sudo cat partitions major minor  #blocks  name   7        0    2001176 loop0   7        1      27740 loop1   7        2      56264 loop2   7        3     246576 loop3   7        4      63580 loop4   7        5      50980 loop5   8        0   15451648 sda   8        1    2651616 sda1   8        2       3968 sda2   8        302:49
samdragon12799488 sda3```02:49
samdragonthat didnt format but i see a bunch of sda partitions, but thats the USB im pretty sure02:49
gnoobsamdragon:  sda should be your linux partition?02:52
samdragonis it? Im assuming thats the live USB, because of this output of fdisk -l02:53
samdragonDisk /dev/sda: 14.75 GiB, 15822487552 bytes, 30903296 sectorsDisk model: USB Flash Drive02:53
samdragonDisk /dev/sda: 14.75 GiB, 15822487552 bytes, 30903296 sectorsDisk model: USB Flash Drive02:53
Bashing-omsamdragon: Pastebin ' sudo parted -l ' from the liveUSB for the channel's inpection.02:54
Bashing-om!paste | samdragon02:54
ubottusamdragon: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.02:54
samdragonsorry. im bad at IRC02:54
Bashing-omsamdragon: We were all new at one time - bad is not an issue :P02:55
samdragonhttps://paste.ubuntu.com/p/rgYMYNnrRq/02:55
Bashing-omsamdragon: Yukkie: "Apple" let's me out - no experience here to guide you :(02:56
samdragonI think that's just the USB though, right? not the laptop's drive. its not a macbook02:58
samdragonI dunno why it says that, maybe I originally formatted the usb on a macbook a while back02:58
Bashing-omsamdragon: I can accept that it is the USB as we have "Disk /dev/sda: 63.3GB". But should have also shown the internal drive.02:59
samdragoneven if it's encrypted or the initramfs cant find the device?03:01
echoSMILEhi. Is there a way to turn a laptop into a loudspeaker with ubuntu without the feedback efect ?03:02
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thyriaenHiho, i am running Ubuntu 20.04 and i would like to get OpenCL running with my RX5700XT and i am wondering if navi is not supported yet, because i get the following error when i try to get clinfo08:12
thyriaen'/usr/lib/clc/gfx1010-amdgcn-mesa-mesa3d.bc': No such file or directory08:12
tatertotzthyriaen: did you install the driver?08:15
thyriaeni did install libclc, and the icd08:15
tatertotzthyriaen: ok, so you didn't install the driver then08:16
tatertotzthyriaen: open terminal08:16
thyriaenisnt the icd runtime the driver ?08:17
tatertotzRX5700XT driver08:18
tomreynechoSMILE: the feedback is (usually) not caused by software, but by the audio periphals you use and how they are situated to one another. use a microphone that doesn't capture surrounding sound (such as a lavalier mic), and / or directional audio output. think of how a megaphone combines the recording and output device: the speaker is located at the opposite side to the microphone, and the speaker is surrounded by a plastic wrapping to ensure it08:18
tomreyndoesn'T output toweards the microphone, and to create directional sound.08:18
thyriaentatertotz, what is the package called ?08:18
tatertotzthyriaen: you're probably still using amdgpu, it's not a package from the ubuntu repos, you have to get it from AMD08:18
tomreynechoSMILE: this said, maybe that's rather for #ubuntu-offtopic08:19
thyriaenyea i am using amdgpu08:19
tatertotzthyriaen: you can download it from the AMD website08:21
tatertotzthyriaen: this a merely a version, you haven't really shared enough technical details for anything else so you'll have to search on your own for the version you need08:22
tatertotzthyriaen: https://www.amd.com/en/support/kb/release-notes/rn-amdgpu-unified-linux08:22
thyriaeni would like to stick the the opensource implementation and not use amdgpu-pro i had a similar problem with vega when it released but was able to fix it somehow08:22
tatertotzthyriaen: ok , i understand...good luck08:23
thyriaenthanks :=)08:23
tomreynwhile i think we should not claim to be able to support this setup here, i think what thyriaen wanted is https://math.dartmouth.edu/~sarunas/amdgpu.html08:28
eliyahutbrhey guys. running 20.04. getting "no wifi adapter found"  lscpi tells me 02:00.0 Network controller: Qualcomm Atheros QCA9377 802.11ac Wireless Network Adapter (rev 31). What do I do?08:49
eliyahutbri've tried googling w/o success08:50
eliyahutbrdid i miss an answer while rebooting by chance?08:55
TJ-eliyahutbr: let's get some details. Does the PC have any other network connectivity to the Internet right now?08:57
eliyahutbryeah TJ. I'm wired in.09:02
eliyahutbrI can give ya whatever you need.09:02
eliyahutbrthis happened within the last few days. I suspect one of the system upgrades broke things.09:02
eliyahutbrhttps://paste.ubuntu.com/p/dR8M49nHnV/09:03
TJ-eliyahutbr: OK so kernel level looks correct09:05
TJ-eliyahutbr: is it a desktop system?09:05
eliyahutbrlaptop09:06
eliyahutbrdell09:06
TJ-eliyahutbr: if so I suggest you check the NetworkManager logs with "journalctl -b 0 -u NetworkManager" -- it'll load into 'less' so press 'G' (capital G) to goto End and work backwards looking for clues when it tries and fails to connect09:06
TJ-eliyahutbr: or you can do "journalctl -f -u NetworkManager" which will 'tail' the log ... then try connecting09:07
eliyahutbrcan i dump the text? This is beyond my level of understanding.09:07
eliyahutbr https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/mbNjCBkyCd/09:09
eliyahutbrhttps://paste.ubuntu.com/p/8c2BFMDgsD/09:09
TJ-eliyahutbr: I don't see any attempt to make a Wifi connection in that log09:11
eliyahutbrmy gui tells me No Wi-Fi Adapter Found. Make sure yuouhave a Wi-Fi adapter plugged in and turned on.09:12
eliyahutbr*you have09:12
TJ-eliyahutbr: ahhh!09:12
eliyahutbri like 'ahhh!'09:12
TJ-eliyahutbr: what does "nmcli device" report?09:12
eliyahutbrDEVICE  TYPE      STATE      CONNECTION         enp1s0  ethernet  connected  Wired connection 1 lo      loopback  unmanaged  --09:13
eliyahutbrno wifi device listed09:13
TJ-eliyahutbr: right... let's dig: "pastebinit <( ip link show; ls -l /sys/class/net )"09:14
eliyahutbris that sytax correct?09:15
eliyahutbrpatebinit?09:15
eliyahutbrpastebinit rather09:15
eliyahutbrnvm09:16
TJ-eliyahutbr: indeed' you can just copy/paste that command inside the " "09:16
eliyahutbr/paste.ubuntu.com/p/6XZ8dQ75VV/09:16
eliyahutbrhttps://paste.ubuntu.com/p/6XZ8dQ75VV/09:16
TJ-eliyahutbr: OK so no device!09:16
eliyahutbrthats nifty. i'm gonna have to learn about how to use pastbinit for sure09:17
eliyahutbrindeed. no device.09:17
TJ-eliyahutbr: lets go back to basics - I suspect it may be missing firmware. "pastebinit <( lspci -nnk; journalctl -b 0 -k )"09:17
eliyahutbrhttps://paste.ubuntu.com/p/gb4WwxJpWj/09:18
TJ-aha! line 106009:19
TJ-eliyahutbr: something to do with (not) setting the regulatory domain which determines the frequencies allowed09:19
eliyahutbrweirdness09:19
eliyahutbrlet me read this09:19
TJ-eliyahutbr: that contains a path to something YOU have built "/home/eliyahu/backport-iwlwifi/net/wireless/core.c"09:19
eliyahutbrthat was my 1st attempt to fix this09:20
eliyahutbrlet me see if i can get rid of that09:20
TJ-eliyahutbr: yes, that might help to begin with09:20
TJ-eliyahutbr: all those ACPI Errors suggest the PC's firmware is buggy too09:22
eliyahutbri cant find the instuctions i followed to undo them.09:28
TJ-eliyahutbr: check your system has the declared firmware files of the driver: "modinfo -F firmware | grep 9377; find /lib/firmware/ath10k/ | grep QCA9377 "09:28
eliyahutbrargh09:28
TJ-eliyahutbr: I'm guessing you've force installed that driver, was it using DKMS?09:28
eliyahutbrsounds right09:28
TJ-eliyahutbr: check "dkms status"09:28
eliyahutbrhttps://paste.ubuntu.com/p/7TDr6xdHQj/09:29
eliyahutbrdkms status returns nothing09:29
TJ-eliyahutbr: bhah, my bad typing09:29
TJ-eliyahutbr: check your system has the declared firmware files of the driver: "modinfo -F firmware ath10k_pci | grep 9377; find /lib/firmware/ath10k/ | grep QCA9377 "09:29
eliyahutbrhttps://paste.ubuntu.com/p/p786yZBKcG/09:30
TJ-eliyahutbr: for that iwlwifi module to be loaded then you must be force-loading it09:30
eliyahutbrappreciate all your help TJ. Where on the globe are you?09:30
eliyahutbrhow do I get rid of the force loaded module?09:31
TJ-eliyahutbr: pastebinit <( sudo grep -rn iwlwifi /etc/ )"09:31
TJ-eliyahutbr: firmware/driver looks good. Which Ubuntu version and kernel are you using? "uname -a; lsb_release -r"09:32
eliyahutbrhttps://paste.ubuntu.com/p/KhqDCSk5xW/09:32
eliyahutbrhttps://paste.ubuntu.com/p/33KQY2vxjw/09:32
eliyahutbrping. did i loose connection?09:33
TJ-no09:33
eliyahutbr"/sbin/lsmod | grep -o -e ^iwlmvm -e ^iwldvm -e ^iwlwifi | xargs /sbin/rmmod)" will that get rid of it09:33
TJ-eliyahutbr: no, that is expected, it is to remove submodules when the parent module is removed09:34
TJ-eliyahutbr: "lsmod | grep iwlwifi"09:34
eliyahutbrreturns nothing09:34
TJ-eliyahutbr: how about "lsmod | grep iwl"09:35
eliyahutbrnada09:35
TJ-eliyahutbr: how about " modinfo cfg80211 | head -n 1 "09:36
TJ-eliyahutbr: I think the issue is you've built a completely new wifi stack including the regulatory control modules, which are conflicting09:37
rongx1an(ubuntu+fluxbox) how to define fn keys to alter brightness, volume etc?09:39
eliyahutbrfilename:       /lib/modules/5.4.0-42-generic/updates/net/wireless/cfg80211.ko09:39
TJ-eliyahutbr: aha! "updates" tells me it is from DKMS or siilar09:41
TJ-eliyahutbr: are you sure "dkms status" returned nothing?09:41
eliyahutbryup09:41
TJ-eliyahutbr: show me "pastebinit <( ls -l /usr/src )"09:42
eliyahutbrhttps://paste.ubuntu.com/p/xzT6SBsFVW/09:43
TJ-eliyahutbr: aha! show me "pastebinit <( ls -l /usr/src/backport-iwlwifi )"09:43
eliyahutbrhttps://paste.ubuntu.com/p/MvrWXGY9v6/09:44
TJ-eliyahutbr: strange, that is definitely a DKMS installed module, you can see the 'dkms.conf' file09:44
eliyahutbrhow can I wipe that?09:44
TJ-eliyahutbr: well if it was installed by DKMS you'd use 'dkms remove' but it looks like it was installed in some other way09:45
TJ-eliyahutbr: let's try something obvious: "pushd /usr/src/backport-iwlwifi; sudo make uninstall"  -- tell me if it seems to do something useful like uninstall :D09:46
eliyahutbrrebnooting09:47
eliyahutbrback.09:48
eliyahutbrso whats next TJ?09:49
TJ-eliyahutbr: did the previous command uninstall anything?09:49
eliyahutbryup. told me to reboot09:50
TJ-eliyahutbr: great, so lets check how things stand now09:50
TJ-eliyahutbr: "pastebinit <( journalctl -b 0 -k )"09:50
eliyahutbrhttps://paste.ubuntu.com/p/73V5d8WYqB/09:51
TJ-eliyahutbr: same problem /home/eliyahu/backport-iwlwifi/net/wireless/reg.c:2347 wiphy_apply_custom_regulatory+0xb6/0xd0 [cfg80211]09:52
TJ-eliyahutbr: " modinfo cfg80211 | head -n 1 " again please09:52
eliyahutbrfilename:       /lib/modules/5.4.0-42-generic/updates/net/wireless/cfg80211.ko\09:53
TJ-eliyahutbr: still the 'updates' version. let's see if the original is still there and then kill this 'updates' version09:53
eliyahutbramen to that09:53
TJ-eliyahutbr: "pastebinit <( find /lib/modules/$(uname -r) -name 'cfg80211*' -ls )"09:54
eliyahutbrhttps://paste.ubuntu.com/p/dmp9DZ3hZT/09:54
TJ-eliyahutbr: good! it'll have several other modules that depend on it so we can't easily unpick it live, so we'll do a brute-force removal and reboot09:56
eliyahutbri'm game.09:56
eliyahutbrat this point if you weren't here i would be doing a reinstall09:56
TJ-eliyahutbr: "sudo rm /lib/modules/5.4.0-42-generic/updates/net/wireless/cfg80211.ko ; sudo depmod --all; sudo systemctl reboot" ... see you soon :)09:57
eliyahutbrok09:57
eliyahutbrback10:02
TJ-eliyahutbr: OK, shall we check what state is now? "pastebinit <( journalctl -b 0 -k )"10:02
gavimobilehi folks, i am trying a new install of ubuntu server 16.04.6. my first challeng during the install is it says at the boot "no network interfaces detected". i have an intel ethernet (7) i219-lm nic card installed. can someone please assist?>10:02
gavimobilethanks10:02
eliyahutbrhttps://paste.ubuntu.com/p/7WR2C2k2NN/10:03
TJ-gavimobile: just a guess, but it is possible the kernel in 16.04.6 doesn't have support for that Ethernet device10:03
TJ-eliyahutbr: OK, that's unmasked the underlying error - not sure what the cause is as yet but now we are on the correct trail10:05
eliyahutbrawesome. thanks for all your help so far10:05
eliyahutbrguide me oh guru10:05
jeremy31eliyahutbr: Is there a backports-iwlwifi folder in home?10:06
eliyahutbryeah10:06
eliyahutbrshould i get rid of it?10:06
jeremy31eliyahutbr: in terminal>  cd backports-iwlwifi && sudo make uninstall10:06
TJ-jeremy31: it's actually /usr/src/10:06
TJ-eliyahutbr: it looks like there may be more 'updates' so before doing that lets check10:07
jeremy31Still have mac80211 and compat module to get rid of10:07
TJ-eliyahutbr: "pastebinit <( find /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/updates -ls )"10:07
TJ-jeremy31: yeah; checking if they're there. We already did a 'make uninstall'10:08
eliyahutbrfully up to date10:08
eliyahutbrhttps://paste.ubuntu.com/p/DfqKtxQK5p/10:09
TJ-eliyahutbr: so 'uninstall' ... didn't! let's rip it out: "sudo rm -rf /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/updates/" then reboot10:10
eliyahutbrbbiab10:11
TJ-eliyahutbr: hang on!!!10:11
TJ-eliyahutbr: doh10:11
eliyahutbrtooooo late10:12
eliyahutbri just saw that 'hang on' now10:12
TJ-eliyahutbr: how does "ls -l /sys/class/net/" look now?10:12
TJ-eliyahutbr: hehehe don't worry, it wasn't vital10:13
eliyahutbrtotal 010:13
eliyahutbrlrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 Aug 16 13:11 enp1s0 -> ../../devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.0/0000:01:00.0/net/enp1s0 wxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 Aug 16 13:11 lo -> ../../devices/virtual/net/lo10:13
eliyahutbrno wireless10:13
TJ-eliyahutbr: OK, so back to kernel log yet again! "pastebinit <( journalctl -b 0 -k )"10:14
eliyahutbrhttps://paste.ubuntu.com/p/hB53vxmGQm/10:15
TJ-eliyahutbr: "sudo depmod --all"10:15
eliyahutbrthat didn't return anything10:16
TJ-eliyahutbr: good, that means success10:16
TJ-eliyahutbr: now let's see what is loaded: "lsmod | grep ath"10:17
eliyahutbrsuccess in ripping out i assume?10:17
eliyahutbralso returns empty10:17
TJ-eliyahutbr: 'depmod' means 'update module dependencies' - it was the 'hang on!!!' earlier :D10:17
eliyahutbrgotcha10:17
TJ-eliyahutbr: check the module isn't attached to the device right now with "lspci -nnk -d ::0280" --- that should report the device but show no kernel driver in use10:18
TJ-eliyahutbr: it'll likely show "Kernel modules: ath10k_pci"10:18
eliyahutbr02:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Qualcomm Atheros QCA9377 802.11ac Wireless Network Adapter [168c:0042] (rev 31)Subsystem: Dell QCA9377 802.11ac Wireless Network Adapter [1028:1810]Kernel modules: ath10k_pci10:19
TJ-eliyahutbr: good; let's try a manual load: "sudo modprobe ath10k_pci" then "pastebinit <( journalctl -b 0 -k -n 100)"10:19
eliyahutbrhttps://paste.ubuntu.com/p/BfgtfMXvWZ/10:21
TJ-eliyahutbr: you're up10:22
eliyahutbrholy crap10:22
TJ-eliyahutbr: "wlp2s0: associated"10:22
TJ-eliyahutbr: reboot and test now please, so we are sure it works correctly and not just manually10:22
eliyahutbrnow is it fixed or am I going to need to load something everytime or set it up to do so?10:22
eliyahutbrbrb10:22
eliyahutbrwe are golden @TJ. Thanks for all your help.10:24
eliyahutbrTodah Raba mYerushalim = Thank you very much from Jerusalem.10:24
TJ-eliyahutbr: good we finally got there10:24
eliyahutbrjust intime for me to go into a meeting. Have a great day (night, evening, morning, whatever)10:25
JoeVanniehi11:33
JoeVanniei do not know if i am logged well, can anyone read me?11:34
JoeVanniei can see ppl leaving11:36
JoeVanniehi mue11:36
JoeVanniemue can you read me?11:36
lotuspsychjewe see you JoeVannie11:37
lotuspsychjedo you have an ubuntu question?11:37
JoeVannieoh okok thanks god11:37
JoeVannieyes11:37
JoeVanniei need help sadly11:37
lotuspsychjeask away JoeVannie11:37
JoeVanniei have a usb stick i am unable to format11:37
lotuspsychjeJoeVannie: wich error do you get with wich tool?11:38
blscoeFound pop os bug that causes priv escalation in linux emergency mode11:38
JoeVanniei tried everything, from gparted to terminal. the stick is read only ( i do not know why) and im not the owner. i cannot change the permissions nor the ownership11:38
lotuspsychjeblscoe: we only support ubuntu derivatives here11:38
blscoemight apply to ubuntu11:39
blscoeAnd is very serious11:39
lotuspsychjeJoeVannie: while you try thinngs, open a journalctl -f to see relevant issues11:39
lotuspsychjeblscoe: whats it about exactly?11:39
JoeVanniedo i have to type journalctl -f into terminal?11:39
lotuspsychjeJoeVannie: yes11:39
lotuspsychjeJoeVannie: then try to format your stick11:40
lotuspsychjeplug out/back in etc11:40
JoeVanniein the same terminal?11:40
lotuspsychjeJoeVannie: no, the journal will log things in realtime while you test things out11:40
blscoeBadusb > systemd crash > root, i know ubuntu uses grub by default but still worrying11:42
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lotuspsychjeblscoe: badusb?11:43
blscoeYes11:44
lotuspsychjeblscoe: infected usb with?11:44
BluesKajHi folks11:45
JoeVannielotuspsychje what should i do now?11:47
JoeVanniebtw thanks for the help11:47
JoeVannieBluesKaj hello :)11:48
lotuspsychjeJoeVannie: did you try to format the stick?11:48
JoeVannieyes11:48
JoeVannieno luck again sadly11:48
lotuspsychjeJoeVannie: ok pastebin the whole output of the journal log please11:48
JoeVanniehttps://pastebin.com/8qdDqE8a11:50
JoeVannieis it ok like that? i never used pastebin11:50
lotuspsychjeJoeVannie: yes tnx, reading11:52
lotuspsychjeJoeVannie: mtp-probe[14816]: bus: 2, device: 5 was not an MTP device is not such good news11:53
JoeVanniewhat does it mean?11:53
lotuspsychjeJoeVannie: gparted.desktop[6180]: Can't write to /dev/sdb, because it is opened read-only.11:54
JoeVannieyes that is the error i got every time11:54
lotuspsychjeJoeVannie: lets try something else; sudo apt install testdisk11:55
JoeVanniei dunno why, i just plugged that new usb stick in a tv about 1 week ago, and now it's just useless :/11:55
JoeVannieinstalled11:55
lotuspsychjeJoeVannie: now, sudo photorec11:56
lotuspsychjeJoeVannie: and check if you can see your sandisk in the list11:56
JoeVanniei can11:56
lotuspsychjeJoeVannie: ok, then maybe there's still hope11:57
JoeVanniealso i see a lot of /dev/loopx (x is a number) i dunno why11:57
lotuspsychjeJoeVannie: those are snap dirs11:57
lotuspsychjedont mind those11:57
JoeVannieas long as it's normal it's ok lol11:57
lotuspsychjeJoeVannie: do you still need the data on the stick, or can your format all?11:58
JoeVanniei can format11:58
BluesKajhi JoeVannie11:58
lotuspsychjeallright, do you have another Os to try to format around JoeVannie ?11:58
JoeVannieoh i tried the solution with all 0 to the memory, but no luck11:58
JoeVanniemy dad tried on windows but no luck11:59
JoeVanniestill read only problem11:59
JoeVannie(sorry for my english, i know it's bad)11:59
lotuspsychjeJoeVannie: did you doublecheck if your stick has a hard switch on/off somwhere?12:00
JoeVannieyep, no phisical switch12:01
JoeVanniei know it's so strange12:01
lotuspsychjeJoeVannie: try sudo umount /dev/[device] and then gparted as root again12:02
JoeVannieisn't gparted always root?12:03
lotuspsychjeJoeVannie: it should ask your pass yeah12:03
JoeVanniestill "read only" error12:04
lotuspsychjeright12:04
JoeVannieidk if it can help but one partition is jfl12:04
_jakHey everyone! I have a mouse that, up until my most recent reboot, was accepting the libinput Natural Scrolling property, but now when I try to set it, I get the error message that the property "libinput Natural Scrolling doesn't exist" which is very confusing! Any ideas? Also let me know if there's some other info I could give to make it clearer what's going on12:05
JoeVanniesorry, it's jfs12:05
lotuspsychjeJoeVannie: did you play with wrt devices of some kind on it?12:06
JoeVanniei dunno what wrt is12:07
lotuspsychjenvm then12:07
JoeVanniei dunno nvm12:08
JoeVanniei'm sorry i am very noob :(12:08
lotuspsychjeJoeVannie: well im not sure about this issue, maybe other volunteers might have ideas12:08
lotuspsychjeJoeVannie: maybe a: sudo hdparm -r0 /dev/sdX12:09
JoeVanniei tried already. it say "read only = 0" but it's just not true12:10
_jaknvm, I figured it out. New question now: does anyone know why the same device might appear in the xinput list multiple times?12:10
lotuspsychjeJoeVannie: ok12:11
lotuspsychjeJoeVannie: can your pastebin the output of: sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdX12:12
JoeVanniei dunno why it say no such file or directory12:14
nbusroneMay i know what is environment variables  'printenv' ? i search online but not so well knowing the meaning of it.In layman terms ?12:15
JoeVannielotuspsychje https://pastebin.com/SYEFR3qu12:15
lotuspsychjeJoeVannie: what about sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdc12:17
JoeVanniehttps://pastebin.com/sK6B75UR12:17
lotuspsychjeJoeVannie: 2 unknown partition types eh?12:20
JoeVanniegparted is showing jfs and ext312:20
JoeVanniedunno why here is unknown12:20
lotuspsychjeJoeVannie: maybe its getting stuck on that jfs somehow, not sure12:21
JoeVanniei amo not able to format the ext3 neither12:21
SpeirosJoeVannie What are you wanting to do mate?12:26
JoeVanniei'm trying to format a usb drive, but i am not able to do it cause it's read only12:26
SpeirosIs your gparted on a CD?12:26
SpeirosDVD rather?12:26
JoeVannienope, it's an app i installed12:27
SpeirosOkay. If you do it from a DVD, you can open from the DVD and then access the USB drive from there, I'm quite sure.12:27
Speirosdistrowatch.com has gparted on it if I recall, that you can download to a DVD12:28
SpeirosI'll check12:28
SpeirosYep.12:28
SpeirosIf you want the link, JoeVannie, here it is: https://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=gparted12:29
JoeVanniei do not have the cd reader sigh12:30
JoeVanniei'm on a dell latitude e725012:30
SpeirosCan you open up "disks" in your computer app source? like where you'd find terminal etc. I forget the name.12:31
SpeirosAre you running 18.04?12:31
JoeVanniei can open disk utility12:31
SpeirosYep.12:31
JoeVanniei'm running 20.0412:31
SpeirosCan you format the USB from there?12:31
SpeirosAh, okay.12:31
JoeVannienope, it's all greyed out12:31
SpeirosOkay.12:31
JoeVannieit's a nightmare, i can assure you :(12:32
SpeirosYes.12:32
SpeirosSorry.12:32
JoeVannieit's about 7 hours i'm trying12:32
SpeirosCan you open as root?12:32
JoeVannieyes12:33
SpeirosI don't mean to do it now, but intheory?12:33
SpeirosOkay.12:33
SpeirosHmm, I forget the commands now, but you can do it through terminal too.12:33
JoeVanniebut still i am not able to change permissions12:33
SpeirosWhat are you typing to change the permissions?12:33
JoeVanniei used nautilus as root, mounted the usb drive, and then i clicked permissions. i also used chown12:34
JoeVanniei do not get any errors, but permissions do not change12:34
SpeirosChanged it to 777, from within the correct directory?12:34
JoeVannieyes12:34
SpeirosHave you rebooted since?12:34
JoeVannie2 or 3 times but still no luck12:34
SpeirosSorry mate. It sounds awkward.12:35
SpeirosI can't help from here, as I can't see what's going on there, but sorry it's so frustrating.12:35
JoeVanniei know, i'm lost. i used all the commands i found on the internet lol12:35
SpeirosDid you have trouble before upgrading to 20.04?12:35
JoeVannieno trouble with 18.04 nor with 20.0412:36
JoeVannieit's all working flawlessly12:36
SpeirosOkay.12:37
JoeVanniei even formatted a usb drive with no problem in 20.0412:37
SpeirosJust this specific one?12:37
JoeVannienope, i formatted another12:37
JoeVanniei mean, i have problems just with that one yes12:37
SpeirosAll good.12:37
SpeirosI'm not sure mate. Do you know what is on it?12:37
JoeVanniei plugged into a tv and now it has a strange jfs partition12:38
JoeVannieon the drive? yes i can see the files12:38
SpeirosIs the partition separate to the partition with the files on it?12:38
JoeVanniei dunno how to check12:39
JoeVanniei have a jfs and a ext312:39
JoeVannieoh nono they are on jfs partition12:39
SpeirosOkay.12:39
SpeirosI don't know how you can do it, but if you know a friend nearby, get Gparted on a separate DVD, or even download it and prepare it on a flash drive (but then you'll need other things to make it bootable), and you can run Gparted from there.12:40
SpeirosIf you are going to format it anyway, you could test changing the settings and flags on it.12:41
JoeVanniewhat do you mean by changing flags?12:42
JoeVanniei think the drive could be bootable12:42
JoeVanniecause when i restarted my pc it looks like it's trying to boot from usb, saying to me "no partition table"12:42
JoeVanniehowever i cannot make a new partition table cause of the read only error12:43
SpeirosIf you look in Gparted, it will have a dropdown, or something similar, showing the flags.12:43
SpeirosI can't remember what they are though, but it could be there.12:43
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JoeVannieit seems no flag are active for jfs12:45
JoeVannienor ext312:46
SpeirosOkay. I think this is beyond me, I'm afraid.12:46
JoeVanniethank you :)12:46
JoeVannieu are so kind12:46
JoeVanniethank you for your time dude :)12:47
SpeirosIf you are going to format it anyway, you could mess around with the disks program and gparted, but I don't know if that is worthwhile or not.12:47
SpeirosMy pleasure mate :)12:47
xbfrogHi. i'm using ubuntu 20.04 i removed a bluetooth keyboard that was paired but wasnt connecting and in the process lost any bluetooth connection abliity. the message i get in bluetooth settings is "no bluetooth found plug in a dongle to use bluetooth" bluetooth was working fine i had 2 headsets keyboard and a game contorller paired till this happened.12:48
JoeVanniei just tryed all but still no luck12:48
JoeVannieif anyone has an idea i'll sit here :)  thank you all12:49
SpeirosHave you restarted the computer, xbfrog?12:50
xbfrogyep several times12:50
SpeirosIt is the only thing I can think of from my limited knowledge.12:50
SpeirosOkay.12:50
SpeirosSorry.12:50
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JoeVanniehello again14:38
JoeVanniei am trying for the second time14:38
SpeirosI hope it works for you mate.14:39
JoeVannieis there anyone who know how to force format a diabolical usb stick that have read only permission?14:39
JoeVanniemy only hope is ppl in this chat lol i spent 20 min just figuring out how to get that works14:40
JoeVanniebtw, why do you use that chat and not like telegram? if i may ask14:40
tomreynusually it's due to either a file system which was mounted uncleanly, or due to media failure.14:41
JoeVanniei have a file system for that usb, but it's read only too :/14:42
JoeVannieis there a way to just force the format?14:42
JoeVannielike "i don't care about nothing, just erase all"?14:43
lotuspsychjeJoeVannie: please show the pastebins we tryed earlier if you re-ask your question, so volunteers can pick up where we left14:43
JoeVannieoh ok sorry14:43
tomreynunmount any file systems the system has mounte don the stick, then run fsck against all the file systems. or, if you no longer need the data, just write a new partition table and format (mkfs) then.14:43
JoeVanniehttps://pastebin.com/8qdDqE8a14:43
JoeVanniehttps://pastebin.com/SYEFR3qu14:44
JoeVannietomreyn it doesn't work, that's the problem. mkfs is giving error cause the usb is read only, so i cannot write on or erase14:45
SpeirosMaybe you have the file open in read-only before you have it opened again as root?14:45
SpeirosNOt sure.14:46
JoeVannieumh.... can you explain me better? i'm not that good with english14:46
JoeVannienor with ubuntu xD14:46
SpeirosHave you already got the file open on your desktop before you opened it again in root?14:46
SpeirosI mean, was it open two times?14:47
JoeVanniewich file?14:47
SpeirosAt the same time?14:47
JoeVanniethe file system of the usb drive cannot be opened14:47
SpeirosThe hard drive,14:47
JoeVannieeven in root14:47
JoeVanniethe hardrive is automounted when plugged in14:47
oxekwhy is it bad advice to set "alias sudo='sudo '"?14:48
JoeVannieso yes, i need to open it when not root and then i can root14:48
SpeirosOkay. You can unmount it with files, JoeVannie, or you can umount, but I don't know if this is a good idea without somebody else having input.14:48
JoeVannieand after unmounting?14:49
SpeirosThat is the problem. I don't know if the computer will see it in media then.14:49
JoeVannienope14:49
SpeirosThat is why I need someone else to advise on that.14:49
JoeVannieif you unmount the device it disappear in /media14:49
tomreynJoeVannie: so this is about a SanDisk Cruzer Blade (32GB) USB stick, right? can you look for its persistent path by doing    ls -l /dev/disk/by-id/ | nc termbin.com 999914:50
JoeVanniei did it tomreyn14:51
JoeVanniei *just did it14:51
tomreynJoeVannie: this command should have printed a url you can share here14:51
JoeVanniehttps://termbin.com/jco314:52
JoeVanniewhoa... you guys are just amazing btw :)  you really know how to use terminal14:52
tomreynso the persistent device path is /dev/disk/by-id/usb-SanDisk_Cruzer_Blade_200517396216001336CD-0:014:53
tomreynJoeVannie: please close any software which may be accessing the usb stick, such as file browsers, gparted etc.14:53
JoeVannieok14:53
tomreynalso "gnome disks"14:53
Speiros:D14:54
JoeVanniei close everything except for you hahaha14:54
JoeVannieso i'm sure14:54
JoeVanniedone14:55
tomreynokay, now open a terminal windows and run     cat /proc/mounts | nc termbin.com 999914:55
samdragonI did a simple update yesterday and it completely borked my system. I cant boot up, I get issues with initramfs not being able to find the device by UUID14:55
JoeVanniehttps://termbin.com/qsos14:56
tomreynsamdragon: try selecting an earlier kernel from grub's "advanced" menu14:56
mindbyteHello, why does Ubuntu Server in general not tell my DHCP Server its hostname? I always have to tell my DNS Server about my maschine manually. I'm mostly using systemd-networkd.14:56
samdragonIm booted into a live USB, but various bugs/threads online say to reconfigure initramfs but the internal HD isnt showing up in any of the normal utilities like parted, blkid, etc14:56
tomreynJoeVannie: do you need the data on the stick?14:57
samdragontomreyn: so I had installed 5.6 to test a fix for wifi. I think I was booted into that kernel when the updates happened. Would that be really bad or just kinda bad or not bad?14:57
JoeVannienope, i just wanna win over it now hahaha14:57
samdragonand since, i've tried all 3 kernel versions I have installed, 5.4.40 5.4.42 and 5.6.X14:57
JoeVanniekidding, i was asked to format the stick14:57
JoeVannieso no, i don't need14:58
samdragoninitramfs just cant find my internal HD. I also used the defaults for Secure Boot and FDE14:58
samdragonive tried this tutorial https://alvinabad.wordpress.com/2012/09/22/how-to-recover-a-luks-encrypted-disk/ but `cat /proc/partitions` doesnt show the internal HD14:59
tomreynJoeVannie: sudo parted /dev/disk/by-id/usb-SanDisk_Cruzer_Blade_200517396216001336CD-0:0 mklabel msdos15:00
tomreynJoeVannie: run this, then report what it returned15:00
JoeVanniegiovanni@giovanni-Latitude-E7250:~$ sudo parted /dev/disk/by-id/usb-SanDisk_Cruzer_Blade_200517396216001336CD-0:0 mklabel msdos[sudo] password for giovanni: Warning: Unable to open /dev/sdc read-write (Read-only file system).  /dev/sdchas been opened read-only.Warning: The existing disk label on /dev/sdc will be destroyed and all data onthis disk15:01
JoeVanniewill be lost. Do you want to continue?Yes/No? y                                                                 Error: Can't write to /dev/sdc, because it is opened read-only.Ignore/Cancel? iError: Can't write to /dev/sdc, because it is opened read-only.Ignore/Cancel? I                                                          Error: Can't write to15:01
JoeVannie/dev/sdc, because it is opened read-only.Ignore/Cancel?15:01
tomreynsamdragon: sorry, I can't help you right now, just wanted to throw you a wuick suggestion while i'm working with JoeVannie - but maybe someone else can15:02
samdragonok thanks15:02
SpeirosGood job too, tomreyn :)15:02
tomreynJoeVannie: sudo hdparm -r0 /dev/disk/by-id/usb-SanDisk_Cruzer_Blade_200517396216001336CD-0:015:03
JoeVannie setting readonly to 0 (off) readonly      =  0 (off)15:04
JoeVanniethis is a lie btw15:04
tomreynJoeVannie: sudo parted /dev/disk/by-id/usb-SanDisk_Cruzer_Blade_200517396216001336CD-0:0 mklabel msdos15:04
shibbolethyeah, if those go read-only it's usually a sign that they're about to go15:05
tomreynJoeVannie: please use a pastebin to report the output15:05
tomreynhttps://paste.ubuntu.com15:05
JoeVanniesame error15:05
JoeVanniestill "opened as read only15:06
SpeirosInteresting name, shibboleth :)15:06
JoeVannieidk what is shibboleth but anytime my university site does not work it appears shibboleth15:06
SpeirosDo you have the drive opened by any other means on your computer, JoeVannie?15:06
tomreynJoeVannie: unplug the device, check whether it has a small switch on it for making it read-only15:06
JoeVannietomreyn the stick has no hardware switch15:07
shibbolethJoeVannie, shibboleth is, iirc also the name of a SSO product15:07
JoeVannieSpeiros idk how to check that15:07
JoeVanniei closed everything15:07
SpeirosTry what tomreyn suggested, JoeVannie.15:07
JoeVanniei checked but no switch15:08
tomreynJoeVannie: it's defective, replace it.15:08
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JoeVannieugh. that seems weid, cause the stick is like new15:09
JoeVannieit worked fine until my da plugged into the tv15:09
JoeVanniethen the tv just auto-parted it and now it's like a mess. is it possible that the tv broke my stick?15:10
tomreynJoeVannie: i wouldn't know. contact seller / sandisk about it, providing the serial number (200517396216001336CD) and proof of purchase.15:11
JoeVannietomreyn is there a way to literally erase all, even if the stick is protected?15:11
samdragonI pulled out my old laptop to dual setup while troubleshooting.15:11
tomreyni just don't think you have any options left to try to reanimate it with software. maybe there's some low-level utility from sandisk, but that'd be it.15:12
JoeVannieok, thank you all for the time :)15:12
tomreynJoeVannie: you could try to ATA secure erase it, but it's unlikely that it has this implemented.15:12
JoeVannieuh15:12
JoeVanniejust let's try lol15:12
JoeVanniewhat is that?15:13
tomreynJoeVannie: hdparm -I /dev/disk/by-id/usb-SanDisk_Cruzer_Blade_200517396216001336CD-0:0 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 999915:14
tomreynJoeVannie: https://ata.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/ATA_Secure_Erase15:14
JoeVanniehttps://termbin.com/nfs415:14
tomreynJoeVannie: sudo hdparm -I /dev/disk/by-id/usb-SanDisk_Cruzer_Blade_200517396216001336CD-0:0 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 999915:14
tomreyn(sorry, i forgot sudo)15:15
JoeVanniehttps://termbin.com/q9db15:15
tomreynas expected, it does not support ATA secure erase.15:16
JoeVanniedoes it need to be secure? hahahha15:16
JoeVanniecan't we just skip that word and wipe the hell out of it ? XD15:17
tomreynno. we've tried any options i could think of.15:18
JoeVannieok thank you again :)  you all are really kind15:18
JoeVannieit's so good to see a community like that, thank you all again <315:18
tomreynyou're welcome15:19
SpeirosGood work, tomreyn and others. Your help is appreciated.15:20
JoeVannieyou too Speiros :)15:20
samdragonIve tried adding rootdelay=30 to the grub command. when I use kernel 5.4.40 in Recovery Mode I seem to get farther in the boot process but it still fails to find the root partition15:21
SpeirosThanks JoeVannie. I hope something works.15:23
xbfrogi'm trying to connect a bluetooth keyboard to ubuntu 20.04. so far i cannot see any bluetooth adapter in my laptop listed. and settings says plug in dongle to use bluetooth. i have one now plugged in and it found the keyboard and says its paired but disconnected. i see no way to connect it15:24
xbfrogi also enabed trusted device15:25
xbfrogwhen i right click on bluetooth devices keyboard and click connect it says connection failed host is down15:26
samdragondoes the boot-repair utility here https://askubuntu.com/questions/872171/ubuntu-gave-up-waiting-for-root-device-uuid-does-not-exist-dropping-to-shell cause any damage to the data on the drives themselves?15:27
tomreynsamdragon: it won't help you if the system is unable to see your internal HDD.15:29
tomreynsamdragon: let's double-check whether that is the case, though?15:29
samdragonsure15:29
tomreynsamdragon: can you boot to recovery?15:29
samdragonno. recovery or normal kernel options all eventualy hit the same error ALERT UUID=xxxxxxx does not exist, dropping to shell15:30
samdragonthe 5.4.40 kernel seems to get the farthest though in recovery mode15:30
samdragonI am able to boot up a live USB15:31
tomreynlive usb also works for this test15:31
samdragongiggity15:31
tomreynthe shell it drops you to should work also, but lets do the live usb, this may be easier15:32
tomreynsee if you can get online from the live usb, then ping me.15:32
samdragonwifi is connected tomreyn15:32
samdragoni can pastebin outputs and such and then copy the link here15:33
tomreynsamdragon: right. please open a temrinal and run this:   sudo ls -l /dev/disk/by-id/ | nc termbin.com 999915:33
tomreynit should return a http address you can post here15:34
samdragontermbin.com/11ez15:34
tomreynalright, have a look at it, does this seem to list your internal HD?15:34
samdragonnope15:35
samdragonjust the live USB15:35
tomreynsamdragon: is it possible that you made some changes on your 'bios' while you were trying to fix this, which now prevent the disk from being detected?15:35
samdragonthe only thing I could think of is the Secure Boot, but Ive tried this with that enabled and disabled and hit it the same both times15:36
samdragonI can rerun through that test though. its currently enabled15:36
tomreynan example would be setting SATA mode to RAID rather than AHCI15:36
tomreyn(you want AHCI)15:36
samdragonit's a NVME hd not sata15:37
samdragonbut I dont think I messed with that15:37
samdragonlet me reboot and check15:37
tomreynok, also tell us what the live usb runs15:37
samdragonwhat version you mean?15:37
tomreynyes, is this ubuntu, and which version?15:37
samdragonyep, ubuntu 20.04, the live usb is the same one I used to originally install ubuntu onto this laptop a month ago15:38
tomreynand what do you have installed on the nvme?15:38
tomreynokay 20.04 as well15:38
tomreynokay, check the bios configuration then15:38
tomreynthen boot the live usb again, then bring it online again, and then run this from a terminal:   journalctl -b | nc termbin.com 999915:39
samdragon20.04 all around. the laptop I have 5.4.42 and 5.4.40 installed from the origina setup, but I had installed 5.6.x to try to fix a wifi issue. I believe but am not certain that I was booted into that 5.6 kernel when the updates ran. it was just the popup for system updates and I was typing and so accidentally hit Enter while the modal was popped up15:40
samdragonso I wasnt necessarily trying to update the system. but I know I had to disable Secure Boot to load that 5.6 kernel since it wasnt signed15:40
tomreynlet's keep secure boot disabled for now then15:42
tomreynwhile you're in the bios UI, also check to see whethe the nvme is listed there as a storage media15:42
tomreynsamdragon: ^15:43
samdragonok I just tried disabling secure boot, and am retrying booting 5.4.40 in Recovery. same issue though15:43
samdragonI didnt see anything about the NVME15:44
samdragongonna poweroff and check again. theres an Advanced bios thing that I cant remember how to access on this laptop that I know I had used15:44
samdragonwell, I see HDD Model Name and serial number, an it mentions SSD. I see SATA Mode is Optane without RAID15:45
samdragonthe UUID listed is not the same as the one that initramfs is complaining about. would those match?15:45
samdragonor be expected to match I should say15:46
tomreynsamdragon: probably not. does it say "UUID" on the bios?15:46
samdragonyea it does. and the Security tab does say HDD: NVMe SSF doesnt support HDD password15:47
samdragonSSD*15:47
samdragonNVMe SSD doesnt support HDD password *15:47
tomreynok15:47
samdragonbootmode is UEFI, Secure Boot is off15:48
samdragonand yea on the Info tab, there is a UUID listed. and that UUID does not match the one from the initramfs boot error message15:48
tomreynthat's expected not to match really15:48
samdragonok15:49
tomreynyou said "SATA Mode is Optane without RAID" , what other options are there for this setting?15:49
samdragonI cant edit the Info tab, let me try to figure out the advanced bios thing for this laptop. one minute15:50
tomreyndid you say which laptop model this is?15:51
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tomreynsamdragon: do you have a multi-boot setup with one or more other operating systems on this computer?15:58
samdragonI dont think I can edit that SATA thing. when I boot with the 5.4.40 kernel in Recovery, I can see it say something like found NVMe remapped drive or something like that15:58
lotuspsychjexbfrog: are you using stock gnome's BT or blueman?15:58
samdragonno, just linux15:58
tomreynsamdragon: okay, please get us a screen shot of this NVME remapped drive message15:59
tomreynuse a smartphone, upload to imgur.com, post url here15:59
samdragonit's just `ahci   XXXXXX Found 1 remapped NVMe devices.`16:00
Belialspeaking of uploading to imgur, anyone know of a screenshot plugin or tool where i can upload straight to imgur or lensdump, etc?16:00
samdragonfrom `dmesg | grep -i nvme`16:00
Belialthe ones that come with ubuntu don't seem to have the feature.16:00
tomreynsamdragon: please also ensure that "CSM" (compatibility support mode for legacy BIOS support) is disabled on the bios.16:01
samdragonoh, I did just find this `ahci XXXXX Switch your BIOD from RAID to AHCI to use them` that seems very promising. let me look into the bios more and get back.16:02
samdragonI didnt see CSM as a setting, I did see TSM I think was the acronym but letme reboot to check16:02
compdocits a uefi compatibilty mode16:03
samdragonI do see TPM (TCM) state as Installed and Enabled16:04
compdocI think thats a security feature, not related16:04
tomreynTPM would be unrelated16:05
tomreyn"Switch your BIOS from RAID to AHCI" is what we discussed earlier16:05
compdoc^16:05
tomreynyou said "I see SATA Mode is Optane without RAID"16:05
samdragoner mer gersh16:05
samdragonthat fixed it.16:06
samdragonthanks Tom!16:06
tomreynwhat is "that"?16:06
samdragonswitching the SATA mode from Optane without RAID to AHCI16:06
tomreyni see. so you're able to boot normally now?16:07
samdragonI had to hit ctl + S while in the BIOS to get the extra option16:07
compdocheh16:07
samdragonbut switching that to AHCI and trying 5.4.40 Recovery worked :)16:07
tomreynto access the security menu, i guess?16:07
samdragonnot even the security tab, just a single extra line item option in the Main tab16:08
tomreyncrazy16:08
samdragonbecause why not hide things behind specific unique key sequences16:08
tomreyni wonder how this got set initially though16:08
samdragonI had set it to AHCI I think when I was first setting this computer up. it seems like the updates reset it?16:09
tomreynmaybe the updates involved a bios upgrade, if so, this may be so.16:09
samdragonugh that was frustrating, but thank you so much!16:10
tomreyntake notes on what you did, if this as triggered by a bios update you'll likely need to do this again in a few months.16:10
KonIf my Bionic and Focal systems already have shim-signed installed and are all UEFI/GPT installations, can I just switch Secure Boot on in my EFI/BIOS without having to do anything else system-side? I see this is a related conversation16:11
samdragonyes, great advice16:11
samdragonits tough if my setup notes are on the harddrive i cant access tho hahah16:11
tomreynthere's this new gadget they're selling called 'pen + paper'16:12
SpeirosLOL16:12
* WaltS48 keeps a notepad and pen nearby16:14
tomreynKon: you can just try and see what happens, i'd say. :) make sure oyu don't have out of tree kernel modules or that they're seperately signed and the signature is imported.16:16
tomreynerr the signing key is imported.16:16
KonAh thanks, didn't consider modules16:18
lalitmeeHey Guys, I updated my Ubuntu 18.04 to 20.04 recently and now when I try to update my packages I see that only some of the apt-repositories are enabled. Why this is happening and can I enable all those repositories which were enabled before upgrading to 20.0416:26
tomreynlalitmee: the upgrade process automatically disables all but the default apt repositories. you can re-enable those you need, but edit them to point to "focal", not "bionic"16:27
oerhekslalitmee, check them for focal packages, if those repos come from launchpad16:28
lalitmeetomreyn: yeah that's what I was thinking that I may need to edit those16:28
tomreynlalitmee: note that some of them may not provide packages for focal (20.04), though, as you'll see when you run    sudo apt update    afterwards16:28
oerheksbasicly no, unless..16:28
lalitmeeoerheks: let me check16:28
KyleKVKHi, I recently added a PPA (Nvidia Graphics Drivers) and did sudo apt-get update to make sure it gets put on the sources list. When I do an upgrade and install though, the latest version of the graphics drivers don't get installed.16:36
KyleKVKI don't know why, there are updates available if I look on launchpad and if I check my version I can see it's out of date16:37
tomreynshow what you're seeing, on https://paste.ubuntu.com (for text) or on imgur.com (for graphics), posting the urls here16:38
oerhekstry a full-upgrade ..? sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade16:38
lotuspsychjeah nice, 450 seems to be on there16:39
KyleKVKHere you go: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/hsyHyGwnCq/16:40
KyleKVKYes, 450 is what I'm trying to upgrade to, but I can't "see" it when I go to upgrade. I'm currently running 440.10016:40
tomreynhow about    software-properties-gtk --open-tab=416:41
KyleKVKOops, that's not installed, this is Ubuntu Server 20.04.0116:42
KyleKVKnvidia-smi shows 440.10016:43
tomreynuse "ubuntu-drivers" CLI then16:43
KyleKVKhttps://paste.ubuntu.com/p/3gdrTSHf65/16:45
KyleKVKIs that my answer? That 450-server doesn't exist yet?16:45
tomreyn!info linux-modules-nvidia-440-server-generic-hwe-20.0416:46
ubottulinux-modules-nvidia-440-server-generic-hwe-20.04 (source: linux-restricted-modules): Extra drivers for nvidia-440-server for generic-hwe-20.04. In component restricted, is optional. Version 5.4.0-42.46 (focal), package size 5 kB, installed size 22 kB (Only available for amd64)16:46
tomreyn!info linux-modules-nvidia-450-server-generic-hwe-20.0416:46
ubottuPackage linux-modules-nvidia-450-server-generic-hwe-20.04 does not exist in focal16:46
tomreynlooks like it16:46
KyleKVKoh, ok. that's fine then16:46
KyleKVKBut now I'm curious why I can't see that here: https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa?field.series_filter=focal16:47
KyleKVKThere's no separation for desktop and server there, which is why I was initially confused16:47
tomreynthere's nvidia-headless-450_450.57-0ubuntu0~0.20.04.2_amd64.deb in the PPA16:49
KyleKVKI guess my question then is how come that doesn't get picked up by apt?16:50
lotuspsychjeKyleKVK: can you provide us the output of apt when you try to install 450?16:51
tomreynapt only considers updates to packages you already have installed.16:51
KyleKVKlotuspsychje: I haven't tried doing it manually yet16:51
lotuspsychjeKyleKVK: didnt you say the latest drivers didnt get installed in your first question?16:52
KyleKVKtomreyn: so because there isn't a version specifically to server (as opposed to headless, etc), then it's not going to find any because it's not in there yet?16:52
KyleKVKlotuspsychje: I may have. Sorry for being unclear. What I mean is that there are new drivers and they haven't been installed via apt, I didn't try it manually16:53
KyleKVKBut now I see why that is16:53
tomreynKyleKVK: you usually have 'tracking' / meta packages which dep0ends on other packages and thus have apt install those other packages on updates, or you install packages manually.16:53
tomreynKyleKVK: i don't know whether the -headless package is a 1-to-1 replacement for the packages you have installed for 440 now.16:54
tomreyni'm also not too much into nvidia in general, and prefer to stand back. ;-)16:54
KyleKVKtomreyn: Yeah I don't know either, if I look at the 440 package I don't see -server but I do see headless. I'm just being careful since I just upgraded and it's the only packages I've added via PPA so I wanted to make sure I did it right16:56
lotuspsychjeKyleKVK: you could apt policy that headless package to see if you have it installed currently16:57
KyleKVKSorry, how? I've never done that16:57
lotuspsychjeKyleKVK: apt policy nvidia-headless-44016:58
KyleKVKInstalled: (none)16:58
KyleKVKGuess they are different then!16:59
KyleKVKOk, so then I just have to wait, thank you!16:59
lotuspsychjeKyleKVK: so if you dont have that installed on 440, i guess you could try 450 manual too as a test16:59
lotuspsychjeKyleKVK: wich chipset do you have, and whats going to be the purpose of your server/graphics ?17:00
oerhekswhy nvidia drivers on a server?17:06
lotuspsychjeoerheks: maybe he's going to do some mining :p17:12
FaTaL_Gsometimes when my ubuntu box starts up, the bridge does not come up correctly, and I have isc-dhcp-server bound to br0. When this happens, dhcp fails to start. Can I delay it, or make it depend on br0, or even make it come up even if br0 doesn't?17:19
jhunhongtest17:19
lotuspsychjeFaTaL_G: try #ubuntu-server maybe17:25
robertparkerxI think my vsftp doesn't have utf8 encoding because characters display wierd when I use it but are fine when I am in httpd/ssh/etc17:57
robertparkerxhow can I enable it ?17:57
oerhekswhat guide did you follow, and on what ubuntu version?17:57
robertparkerx18.04.417:59
robertparkerxI cannot remember the guide I'm sorry17:59
robertparkerxI just noticed this yesterday17:59
robertparkerxI've been running it fine for months17:59
oerheksanything weird in your vsftpd.conf? paste.ubuntu.com18:01
robertparkerxshould I be using #utf8_filesystem=YES18:03
robertparkerxI just saw this18:03
oerheksyes.18:04
robertparkerxthat didn't make a difference18:06
robertparkerxlet me try to paste the conf18:06
oerheksdid you restart the service?18:06
robertparkerxyes18:07
robertparkerxsystemctl restart vsftpd18:07
oerheksi hope there is no ntfs involved..18:07
robertparkerxnone18:08
lotuspsychjerobertparkerx: was your fstab showing utf ? mounted correctly?18:08
lotuspsychjerobertparkerx: like, /dev/sda1  /ftpserver/Data  vfat   rw,exec,utf8,umask=0000    0    018:08
robertparkerxlotuspsychje how can I check? I think it should be because ssh and other services are showing the characters right18:09
lotuspsychje!fstab18:09
ubottuThe /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab and http://www.pclosmag.com/html/Issues/200709/page07.html and !Partitions18:09
robertparkerxokay well the mounted drive does not18:10
robertparkerxmy normal drive does18:10
robertparkerx./dev/disk/by-id/scsi-0HC_Volume_4264023 /mnt/HC_Volume_4264023 ext4 discard,nofail,defaults 0 018:10
robertparkerx./dev/fd0        /media/floppy0  auto    rw,user,noauto,exec,utf8 0       018:11
robertparkerxthat's probably why then huh18:12
robertparkerxit's trying to use a filesystem not present18:12
robertparkerxlotuspsychje how do I add it ?18:14
TheWildhello18:37
luna_hi18:37
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TheWildunattended-upgrade when there is not enough space on a disk. What will happen? Will it break the system?18:38
zentoshi18:40
zentosi have my home server ubuntu sere18:40
zentosserver18:40
zentos,but i cant connect ssh 22 port18:40
zentosfrom windows18:40
zentosi try that http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2016/04/enable-ssh-ubuntu-16-04-lts/18:41
oerheksTheWild, it will error out.18:41
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FaTaL_Gmaybe this is easy... it should be... but vi default colorscheme is the worst (not an opinion)... so I'd like to change the defaults default. Maybe I just overwrite the default.vim. When I put the scheme in my .vimrc, it only works on my non sudo actions. How can I make it this way for all users.18:50
tomreynzentos: run this on the server itself:     nc -vz 127.0.0.1 2219:04
tomreyndoes it report     Connection to 127.0.0.1 22 port [tcp/ssh] succeeded!      ?19:04
zentoshm19:04
tomreynhmhm19:11
klinehello, does ubuntu have backports in the package index such as here? https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/tor19:24
klineim mainly asking because tor 0.3.2 hidden services will break in about a year19:25
PeGaSuShelp! my system booted directly to some sort of "command line" with (initramfs) at the beginning of the line, complaining about a file system with errors :/19:25
klineso unless there is a backport of >=0.3.5, tor on ubuntu will not be able to access any hidden services19:25
FaTaL_Gtomreyn: hasn't died since yesterday morning. Even though it was not in the logs between my last reboot and most recent, (I didn;t think it mattered, but might have), was I removed pf_ring, which was telling me the version was tainting the kernel. Could it be related?19:26
pavloszentos: netstat -plant | grep :22   ... do you see 2 lines LISTEN to that port?19:26
zentosok :)19:27
PeGaSuSI guess my HDD went to the pigs. :/19:27
klinePeGaSuS: you can try fsck etc, or whatever tools are provided for your filesystem19:28
pavlosPeGaSuS: you could fix errors and reboot, at that command line you could type, fsck -y /dev/sda1 (if sda1 is your disk)19:29
PeGaSuSyay! the fsck -y /dev/sda1 seems to have worked19:33
klinePeGaSuS: you have backups, right?19:34
PeGaSuSthanks kline & pavlos19:34
PeGaSuSkline: fortunately, all my "important" files are on an external disk19:34
klineim reading between the lines here to understand that as "no, nothing is backed up, but thankfully it was a different drive that failed"19:35
klineso let this be your warning shot19:35
klineexternal drives tend to fail more frequently19:35
tomreynFaTaL_G: yes, that's possible, and why i pointed out tainting.19:36
PeGaSuSkline: I don't have a system backup. I just backup important files/folders19:37
oerhekskline, we suggest to use the original packages19:38
oerheks!tor19:38
ubottuTor is a program to route connections through several servers for anonymity. It is in Ubuntu's repositories, but the Tor Project recommends using their Tor packages due to past issues with Ubuntu's. For setup info, see option (2) of https://www.torproject.org/docs/debian.html.en19:38
klineoerheks: ok, that sounds reasonable. the real reason im chasing this down is that freenode has deprecated our v2 hidden service in line with the upcoming upstream deprecation. the old address is still reproduced in ubuntus docs and it would be ideal to start removing it, other than the current bionic version being very old19:42
kline( https://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/irssi#pre-requis2 )19:42
tomreynFaTaL_G: hmm, i'm not sure i pointed out that the kernel was tainted, i had meant to do so (but don'T see it on my logs). you should be aware of this possible impact when you choose to use external modules, though. and please point it out on your own when seeking support.19:43
oerhekskline, not sure who to talk to in #ubuntu-fr, our wiki does not show that hexnumber https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Tor19:45
klineyeah, im sitting there but id just rather have this policy question cleared up in english first19:46
oerheksi agree that tor package should be wiped, like tons of others like xchat.19:46
klinethanks for your help in understanding the situation19:46
oerheksyw19:46
AtlenohenHello19:47
AtlenohenI'm using kubuntu and I can't find where to create Wifi Hotspot in GUI, is it possible at all?19:47
tomreynAtlenohen: i'm not really into kubuntu, but i think it uses network.manager as well, so, as long as you have a wireless chipset and drivers which support this mode, yes, should be possible to setup on the GUI.19:54
chief-monkHello All I am very new here and wanted to know support wise.  What can I ask here?19:55
tomreynAtlenohen: you may need to use nm-connection-manager if it's not an option available from the kde settings / system manager application (i'm not sure what it's called exactly)19:55
tomreynchief-monk: type this: /topic19:56
chief-monktopic19:56
tomreynwith the leading slash19:56
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tomreyn!support | chief-monk19:57
ubottuchief-monk: The official ubuntu support channel is #ubuntu. Also see http://ubuntu.com/support and http://ubuntuforums.org and http://askubuntu.com19:57
AtlenohenTomreyn: all i see is Connections - System Settings module, nowhere is any mention of Hotspot or AP mode19:58
AtlenohenThis makes the outbound connections so it assumes you're going to be a client.19:58
AtlenohenIt's 19 not 20 tho.19:59
chief-monkubottu: So I am in the right place to ask a tech question about like 16.04 for example?19:59
ubottuchief-monk: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)19:59
AtlenohenTomreyn: thing is, I have no experience with base ubuntu either20:00
Atlenohennm-connection-manager command not found.20:00
chief-monkubottu not human?20:00
ubottuchief-monk: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)20:00
FaTaL_Gtomreyn: I had already removed the tainted module, so you didn't see it in the logs. and I had not yet rebooted. After it locked up yesterday morning, (for which those logs you did see), I rebooted. I had forgotton that I didn't reboot after removing pf_ring. So you think that could have been the cause?20:01
oerheks16.04 is still supported, but we advice to upgrade20:01
joaquinito01i want ubottu in my channel20:01
FaTaL_Gtomreyn: I was running the official nbox/ntop setup, and the official pf_ring. Now those are all removed20:01
joaquinito01i want ubottu in my channel20:02
oerheksjoaquinito01, no.20:02
chief-monkI have a very old one for personal ond have current on new computer20:02
roryAfter installing Ubuntu MATE from the 20.04.1 iso and selecting UK English during installation, I can't see any way to select the UK keyboard input https://i.imgur.com/Gma0BG4.png20:03
jessjoaquinito01: stop it20:03
tomreynAtlenohen: dorry, it's nm-connection-editor20:03
roryEverything else is in the list except English UK (not Dvorak)20:03
tomreyn*sorry20:04
roryDo I need to install a package?20:04
tomreynchief-monk: yes you're in the right place to ask questions about supported ubuntu releases (the ones supported are listed in the /topic)20:04
roryor is "extended winkeys" the new normal?20:04
Atlenohentomreyn: either GUI is broken or what, when I disconnect wired ethernet, wifi stops working20:05
tomreynFaTaL_G: sounds like a plausible cause to me.20:05
Atlenohenthe connections panel doesn't show any available wireless APs20:05
tomreynAtlenohen: you should be able to add one, though20:06
Atlenohentomreyn: What do you mean? It worked before, why would I need to manually know the SSID and the details, it's suppose to automatically scan for networks in the air.20:08
tomreynAtlenohen: do you have this screen? https://askubuntu.com/questions/963847/missing-network-settings-in-kde20:08
AtlenohenIt's not scanning now.20:08
tomreynAtlenohen: i do not know why your wifi stops working when you disconnect wired ethernet.20:09
AtlenohenI connected to wireless some time earlier, I turned Kubuntu up today, I'm 99.9% wired with ethernet.20:09
AtlenohenEarlier I deleted my old wireless connections, I was not connected to any AP today.20:09
chief-monkoerheks: I use Ubuntu Studio 20.04 for work and the 16.04 on the old computer is just play for now.  I had a major issue late last month and been trying to figure out about the boot.20:09
tomreynAtlenohen: "scanning" is what you do when you want to connect to an existing access point, in client mode. you asked about setting up an access point yourself. scanning is not something you'd need to do there.20:10
AtlenohenI saw my neighbour's WiFi show up on the Networks Panel that shows up when you click the taskbar icon. When I disconnected Wired Ethernet Cable out of the Motherboard socket, I could not see neighbours Wifi either, even tho I did nothing to the Wifi USB card.20:11
AtlenohenTo me that sounds like a bug, what does Ethernet cable have to do with Wifi.20:11
tomreynAtlenohen: yes, that's unexpected.20:12
AtlenohenSorry, I wasn't talking about setting up my Wifi in AP Mode right now, just about this side effect.20:12
roryCan you reproduce it consistently? If you disable and re-enable networking then the wifi networks should reappear20:12
AtlenohenBack to the AP Mode ... I spent 30 minutes searching around the settings and I can't find anything.20:12
rorynvm I joined this discussion halfway through.20:13
tomreyn<tomreyn> Atlenohen: do you have this screen? https://askubuntu.com/questions/963847/missing-network-settings-in-kde20:13
AtlenohenEven tho I used to do this regularly on Linux Mint Cinnamon/Mate which I used the most, for 5 years, but I'm not a linux expert at all.20:13
AtlenohenYes, I said yes earlier.20:14
AtlenohenThat's the only screen for Network stuff I found.20:14
AtlenohenAaah20:14
Atlenohenwait20:14
tomreynAtlenohen: i did not see you answer "yes" to this.  do you see the "+" icon on the bottom left?20:14
AtlenohenNo yes I figure now20:15
AtlenohenI did click the plus but I forgot this is burried in "MODE" Infrastructure, Access Point20:15
FaTaL_Gtomreyn (and shibboleth), then II apologize for not mentioning it. There definitely were not any kernel panics, or anyhting to identify the cause, and it slipped my mind :(  I removed it and forgot to reboot. If it doesn't freeze up over the week I think it is solved for me. But I don't have any data to share with the developers of pfring besides the kernel taint message from a few days ago.20:15
FaTaL_G*maybe thats enough20:15
Atlenohentomreyn: Thanks for leading me to the solution :)20:16
tomreynFaTaL_G: certainly won't be enough, but you'll need to work with them to debug this, this software is not part of ubuntu for all i could tell20:16
tomreynFaTaL_G: i also pointed you to ubuntu documentation on debugging kernel related problems yesterday, maybe take a look at it.20:17
tomreynAtlenohen: you're welcome20:17
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FaTaL_Gtomreyn: I did. I have to setup another box to collect the data, so wont happen soon20:19
Atlenohentomreyn: Well I created it, but there's no button or anything to connect/enable it?20:20
tomreynAtlenohen: i'm not sure how this is done on kde/plasma. it may be best to ask in #kubuntu for kubuntu specific support.20:22
tomreynAtlenohen: on default ubuntu you'd have the network manager icon on the panel in the top right corner of the screen, where you can activate the connection.20:22
oerheksmaybe adding those/that package, needs a restart of networking or a reboot?20:23
AtlenohenThis is bad design lol20:23
oerheksno, changing a service and restarting it, is not bad20:24
oerheks"lol"20:24
AtlenohenI did not install anything20:25
tomreynAtlenohen: you may need to install package    plasma-nm    if it's not already installed20:25
AtlenohenI think I used the full plasma with everything, but we'll see.20:25
tomreynthat's based on the post i poiinted to earlier, but then i don't even know which kubuntu version you're on20:25
AtlenohenIt's 1920:25
Atlenohennot the latest 20 LTS20:25
tomreyn!yy.mm | Atlenohen20:26
ubottuAtlenohen: Ubuntu version numbers are: YY.MM (YY=release year,MM=release month). Each year sees two releases, so just specifying YY is imprecise. See also https://www.ubuntu.com/about/release-cycle20:26
chief-monkoerheks: or any one else. Please PM me if you think you can assist me with a 16.06 boot issue that took my hard drive and turned it into a Media drive and all permissions denied !  When do a live boot can see everything in tack and in the proper place.  When I boot up from hard drive it sends me into recovery mode and does its thing and frees at a line of code This computer never backed up cause it would not.  I have firefox20:26
chief-monkand vivaldi bookmarks and saved passwords is what I need.  It has the early days of my work on there too. After all said and done is there anyone here that can assist me? brb20:26
AtlenohenSure, there's no other 19. other than the one before 20.0420:26
oerhekschief-monk, boot the 16.04 iso, and do a fsck?20:28
oerhekshttps://askubuntu.com/questions/1127219/how-to-fix-a-corrupt-ubuntu-16-0420:28
oerheks!19.1020:28
ubottuUbuntu 19.10 (Eoan Ermine) was the 31st release of Ubuntu, support ended July 2020. See !eol and https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-security-announce/2020-July/005494.html20:28
tomreynAtlenohen: there were (k)ubuntu 19.04 and (k)ubuntu 19.1020:28
oerheksis EOL, dead jim20:28
AtlenohenAllright, pfft, now 2 connections showed up in the taskbar panel, this is really weird, it's treating the AP as a "Connection", this should have been completely separate, ... so now I'm "connected to my own AP" ... which means it's just enabled20:30
AtlenohenBut it says "unavailable IP configuration" so it disconnected ..err disabled it20:31
oerheksto be an AP, one needs wired or 2nd wifi networking.20:31
AtlenohenI never used wired when I did AP on Linux Mint20:31
oerheksbut i stop here, 19.10 support is useless, that machine should not be connected to the internets20:31
tomreynAtlenohen: don't waste your time trying to configure the access point before you upgrade to a supported release.20:31
AtlenohenThe point is, I want to setup AP without internet access, I used to do dummy APs all the time, but I do have a Wired connection now with my router, still won't work. Or I didn't configure the AP properly.20:32
oerheksinteresting ..20:33
AtlenohenBut yeah, I actually used to do this via terminal20:36
AtlenohenThe whole Network Connections settings window acts as a client connecting to, not as someone who creates a server. the AP needs to create a DHCP server.20:37
AtlenohenBut it's totally not obvious how to set this up. I disabled IPV6 and IPV4 and now it does work on the Computer side, it activates the AP; but no clients can connect.20:38
oerheksAtlenohen, it will .. in 20.0420:38
tomreynAtlenohen: do you have a support question about a supported ubuntu release?20:38
AtlenohenPeople told me that in-place-upgrade is risky, I wanted to do it, but I would need to backup /Home and a few tweaks I did ... and I think I have to update it 100% before doing the upgrade.20:39
AtlenohenI would rather just reinstall clean.20:39
AtlenohenI set it up a few days 20.04 was released, facepalm, otherwise I would have waited.20:40
mikjaerI am running 20.04.1 LTS and for some reaons "netplan apply" gives me this error message: Warning: The unit file, source configuration file or drop-ins of netplan-wpa-wlp3s0.service changed on disk. Run 'systemctl daemon-reload' to reload units.20:41
oerheks"People told me that in-place-upgrade is risky" .. people tell you here to upgrade. no backups altready? then your data is not important20:41
mikjaeri tried issuing the command it asks me to, it changes nothing and the changes are not beeing applied20:41
AtlenohenOkay, I'll reinstall Kubuntu 2020:41
Atlenohenlater20:42
mikjaerbut when i reboot the system the changes gets applied20:42
tomreynmikjaer: so did you re-run "sudo netplan apply" after running "sudo systemctl daemon-reload"?20:43
mikjaertomreyn: ofcourse i did, how else would i know that it didn't change ?20:44
tomreynmikjaer: the way you phrased it above it could have been that you expected the "sudo systemctl daemon-reload" command to apply the changes you made to the netplan configuration.20:45
tomreyni just wanted to rule this out.20:45
mikjaerDo you know what the error message means?20:46
mikjaeri found a bug repport about it, and it seems to have been fixed in the latest version20:47
mikjaerso i updated my system, but didn't change either20:47
tomreynwhich bug report did you find?20:47
chief-monkOerheks:  done fsck did not like that at all20:48
tomreynchief-monk: keep in mind that no one here can watch over your shoulder - you need to provide details, exact commands you ran, exact error messages, what you did exactly.20:50
noprotohey. i'm looking to mirror my first drive in rpool for zfs on ubuntu 20.04. do i need to format or partition anything on the second drive besides adding a partition table?20:50
chief-monkOerheks there is a repair software and have not found it yet20:50
noproto(i added a GPT)20:51
AtlenohenI searched ".iso" in linux ... finds everything but .iso files, wow, we're gonna beat MSFT real soon!!!!21:03
AtlenohenAnd there is no option to search for file extension, wow, the power of open source baby!21:04
tomreyn!discuss | Atlenohen21:05
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noprotoAtlenohen: find / -name \*.iso21:05
noprotothat was difficult21:05
chief-monkTomreyn:  I woke up one morning and accidentally touch keyboard while in sleep mode.  Night before it was fine.  Try to reboot and showed me a purple screen with 3 options.  1 re-install lose every thing 2 reinstal do not bother personal files I did not know if that meant data from programs 3 recovery mode repair.  I choose repair while Bing search see what I can find.  When it went into recovery mode follow directions to21:06
chief-monkget to the repair software it has a wrench and nut as a logo.  On terminal following Linux and Ubuntu sites doing research how to fix it and every time it comes to that one place to put into terminal put line of code it goes through and in 10 minutes stops at one line and left it that way for 10 plus hours and still nothing.      Would you like me to shut it down and run from hard drive and type in every place it stops?21:06
AtlenohenDolphin File Explorer ... but this kind of experience is sometimes across the board in the linux ecosystem.21:06
AtlenohenStuff you think would be obvious for 20 years ... just missing.21:06
AtlenohenThanks tho!21:08
noprotoAtlenohen: the power of open source means you can add it too21:08
AtlenohenI'm not that exeperienced with terminal, I kinda forgot, I wasn't around linux for 2-3 years, but I got a secondary PC and will have it installed on disk now again for good, so I should get back up to speed.21:09
chief-monkTomreyn:  turn all data on drive into a media volume21:10
tomreynchief-monk: you could take a screen shot of where the system gets stuck when you try to boot it normally, post that on imgur.com and post the http address of it here21:11
Atlenohennoproto: eeehehehe, amazing ... the whole terminal is now full of find: '/proc/23298/task/23292/fdinfo' permission denied ... so I can't see any hits21:11
tomreynchief-monk: what do you mean by "turn all data on drive into a media volume"?21:11
noprotoAtlenohen: / was a path that you can specify..21:12
chief-monkTomreyn That is great I will  show all so you see what I do21:13
AtlenohenOh, yah, a person kinda expects only to see when a hit is found, not when a non-hit is found ... the permission denied things should be -verbose IMO21:13
tomreynchief-monk: actually, i have to head to bed now, but there are others here who can help - try summing it all up with your ubuntu version concisely on the pastebin, and ask again, adding your scree shots.21:13
AtlenohenNow i have to figure out the path of the drive, sloooowly ... man linux is so speed at multitasking, windows is light years behind!21:14
noprotoi have a dedicated file for that kind of very useful feedback on my PC Atlenohen21:14
noprototroll somewhere else21:15
chief-monktomreyn: thanks and good night21:15
tomreynthanks, hope you can make progress here, chief-monk21:15
AtlenohenSeriously, I'm not hating linux at all, but it's unfortunate how biased the coporations are that spend most of their core devs into stuff that only matters for them, and the stuff that suppose to be used by wider audience is left behind.21:15
roryI like the "locate" command21:16
oerhekswhich locate21:16
rorythe one where you have to run "updatedb" first21:16
tomreynAtlenohen: please stay on topic, support Q&A for supported ubuntu releases here. you are welcome to have your opinions, and to chat about them in the suitable channels, but this one is not.21:16
pavlosI think it's in the mlocate pkg21:17
AtlenohenLinus Father doesn't help either, did he even bother trying to replicate the basic usage of linux to see how it's going, caretaking the kernel is only one part of the whole thing ... who cares about the kernel if you can't even do basics without spending 30 minutes learning commands.21:18
AtlenohenOkay sorry, that's all I wanted to say.21:18
roryGood.21:19
noproto^21:19
AtlenohenAnd don't get me wrong, I took the time right now to do an upgrade, It's not like I'm inpatient, but I'd like to be over with it in 3 hours so it doesn't drag into the night, that's a valid reason.21:19
oerheksAtlenohen, don't push it.21:19
roryI find "locate" to be nicer when I just want to find a file I know the name of but not sure where it is21:19
rorybut "updatedb" takes just as long as "find" would. So it's not really any faster overall.21:20
roryAtlenohen, FWIW the concept of "file extention" has no real meaning (on Linux), it's just a convention. So to search for all .jpg files you really just need to search for files named "*.jpg"21:21
rorynot sure exactly how Dolphin handles wildcards.21:21
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robertparkerxhow do I enable utf8 encoding on a mounted drive? I'm using vsftp and I notice that when I'm using ftp the file names were incorrect but ssh/etc is normal21:45
robertparkerxI enabled utf8 file system in vsftpd21:45
robertparkerxI restarted but no difference21:45
blahboybazI'm wanting to install the latest mysql on my system but when I try to download from oracle they want me to sign up for an account. That would be fine except they want every dam peice of information that exists on me in order to do so (I think I even saw a field for blood type - and it was a required feild too). There has to be some better way to get the latest workbench version without giving them one of my kidneys to get it -21:46
blahboybazisn't there?21:46
blahboybazDoes anyone know of a repository (other than the default repository that comes with 18.04)?21:46
oerheksnop,e only 5.7 is available for 18.04 upgrade to focal if you want 8 >> https://launchpad.net/mysql-server/+packages21:48
oerheksnot sure why you need to register, see this tutor; https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-the-latest-mysql-on-ubuntu-18-04 ,... but without our support, not updates.21:49
blahboybazthanks I'll look at that21:50
blahboybazbtw what is focal? another linux distro?21:51
oerheks!foxal21:51
oerheks!focal21:51
ubottuUbuntu 20.04 (Focal Fossa) is the 32nd release of Ubuntu and is the current !LTS release. Download at Download at https://www.ubuntu.com/download - Release notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FocalFossa/ReleaseNotes21:51
blahboybazohh21:51
blahboybazcool, thanks21:51
blahboybazoerheks: I see what happened. I'm not asking about mysql, I'm asking about mysql workbench (the gui tool for mysql which is also from oracle)21:53
oerheksoke, no clue about that21:54
oerhekshttps://launchpad.net/mysql-workbench/+packages21:54
blahboybazThis article: https://phoenixnap.com/kb/how-to-install-mysql-on-ubuntu-18-04  shows a command: $ wget -c https://dev.mysql.com/get/mysql-apt-config_0.8.11-1_all.deb   <--   is that safe?21:55
oerheksblahboybaz, yes, but we don't support issues with that.21:56
oerheksand 8.11 is pretty old21:56
oerheks.. go figure21:56
blahboybazok21:57
robertparkerxhttps://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/103909/ftp-server-utf-8-characters-are-not-shown-neither-remote-nor-direct -- had a similar problem and just mounted with utf821:58
robertparkerxcan I do that without destroying data21:58
oerheksre mounting does not destroy date21:59
oerheksc/data21:59
oerhekswhat filesystem is on that ext drive?21:59
oerheksthis sounds so ntfs :-D21:59
robertparkerxext422:01
joaquinito01can i have ubottu in my channel?22:02
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oerheksstop trollin joaquinito0122:03
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robertparkerxoerheks it's not ntfs it is ext422:06
robertparkerxdo I just edit fstab ?22:19
robertparkerxsudo nano -Bw /etc/fstab22:19
zentosI installed cyberpanel on my computer but I cannot use internet22:20
zentosits normak ?22:20
AtlenohenHello22:23
AtlenohenIs backuping all the .folders and .files in Home/user enough to save most of my relatively small data ?22:24
AtlenohenOr do I have to look in root too ?22:24
zentosyes22:24
AtlenohenThere's a few custom tweaks I did, which I kinda forgot now but doesn't matter I'm to bothered, I'll figure it out once I reinstall again22:25
AtlenohenUnless there's a quick way to just pull out all of non-default custom things I've done to the system,22:25
akkDoes Ubuntu have a backports system like Debian? I'm running focal, looking for meson 0.54, not finding anything about backports with a web search.22:28
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Bashing-omakk: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports  .22:33
akkBashing-om: thanks!22:34
akkLooks like hardly anything there for focal, but at least I know where to request it.22:35
Bashing-omakk: Maybe my dumbness, but I did not find meson either in backports :(22:35
akkLooks like there are only two things there: cockpit (broken into many different subpackages) and ibus-typing-booster.22:36
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Jordan_Uakk: What do you need meson 0.54 for? Is using pip3 rather than the Ubuntu repositories acceptable to you?22:43
akkJordan_U: GIMP's build requires it. Ah, I hadn't even realized meson was python! Yes, pip3 would be fine.22:45
akkI'll do it that way, thanks for the suggestion!22:45
oerhekslatest gimp https://snapcraft.io/gimp22:46
akkoerheks: I'm mildly involved in gimp development, keep wanting to get more involved except every time I do, something in the build changes and I can't build it for a while.22:46
akkWant to help with the python 2-3 port on git master.22:47
blahboybazIs it possible for someone to hack my webcam / possibly mic too on ubuntu 18.04?23:10
blahboybazSomeone is making comments in a chat (an other chat) that are too personal and alarming - like what the shirt I'm wearing says23:10
truexfan81/ignore23:15
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blahboybaztruexfan81: thanks23:23
blahboybazBut is there a way someone could see me through my webcam without my permission?23:23
blahboybazits ALARMING23:24
akkblahboybaz: In theory no, but in practice, lots of experts tape something opaque over their camera.23:42
guivercblahboybaz, possibly if they've tricked you, or you've added a maliocus extension into a browser (eg. chrome) and given that browser access to your camera... chrome & like browsers are rather similiar to other OSes (ie. weaknesses in windows may apply here too)23:44
* akk was very happy that her new laptop came with a built-in slide cover for the camera. The mic is still a risk, though.23:47
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biggtimberdid and update recently on 20.04, and now my user isn't showing up in settings. I can login with it by doing 'not listed just fine.23:58

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