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callmepkgood morning01:10
dufluMorning callmepk 01:46
callmepkmorning01:46
callmepkmorning duflu 02:06
didrocksgood morning06:53
jibelmorning all06:59
didrockssalut jibel 07:03
jibelSalut didrocks, ça va? le déménagement est terminé?07:07
didrocksjibel: tout dépend de la définition de terminé. Il reste encore plein de choses à faire comme la peinture, les plinthes et régler avec le constructeur les problèmes qui se sont avérés (mais il est encore en vacance cette semaine)07:10
didrocksah, et aussi recevoir les derniers bouts de cuisine explosé en 8 envoies séparés07:10
jibeldidrocks, bon, ça fait partie des joies d'une nouvelle maison :)07:11
didrocks(beaucoup de livraison non reçus, dont le frigo qui est arrivé après 5 appels au SAV et 13 jours de retard…)07:11
didrocksbref, compliqué :)07:11
didrockset toi ?07:11
jibelça va bien. rien de spécial.07:12
dufluMorning didrocks and jibel 07:13
didrockshey duflu 07:16
jibelhi duflu 07:19
dufludidrocks, wrong day? :) https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/desktop-team-updates-monday-03rd-august-2020/17595/1107:31
didrocksduflu: not wrong day, but I had this in cache before going on holidays and realized I hadn’t post it07:54
dufluOh, fair enough07:54
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LaneyANYBODY WANT SOME UPDAWG?08:06
didrockshey hey Laney 08:06
Laneywb didrocks!08:11
Laneywhat percentage complete are you now?08:11
didrocksLaney: hard to estimate, still a long way to go to have a decent kitchen and such :)08:13
didrockscomplexity is dealing with Martin while still having things to be done and handling the old appartement before selling (we need to do a big cleaning there)08:14
Laneyyeah, few years and he could assist with painting :>08:16
didrocksright :p08:16
didrocksthe issue is that he wants to assist right now instead of playing with his games :)08:16
didrocksat least, today, we receive our bin, finally!08:17
Laney\o\08:18
duflu /o/08:20
seb128goood morning desktopers08:21
dufluHi seb128 08:21
seb128hey duflu , how are you? had a good w.e?08:22
dufluseb128, I'm 80%. Lots of family and a birthday on the weekend. Almost normal although people should probably be more socially distant than they are... You?08:24
seb128I'm alright! weekend was not the most relaxing, packed and took the road again for another corner of France08:25
didrockshey seb128 08:25
dufluseb128, sounds nice08:25
dufluseb128, btw was there a reason we still ship gdm3 3.34?08:26
dufluOther than it was never branch-tagged upstream correctly08:26
dufluThere is a gnome-3-36 branch with tags08:26
dufluLooks like we miss out on some interesting fixes08:27
seb128duflu, 3.36 tarballs came after 3.36.1 iirc08:29
dufluyeah08:29
seb128http://ftp.acc.umu.se/pub/gnome/sources/gdm/3.36/08:29
seb128from june08:29
seb128so just that we moved to other things than GNOME updates in between june and now08:29
seb128I expect we will get it update as we deal with 3.37 twhich started)08:30
dufluok08:30
seb128duflu, it's listed on https://trello.com/b/sdyPskaS/gnome-33808:30
seb128could one for L_aney if he has some slots to help with updates this week08:31
seb128_bah, internet disconnect and I didn't notice for a while08:42
* marcustomlinson opens IRC08:55
marcustomlinsonmorning desktoppers08:55
didrockshey marcustomlinson 08:55
marcustomlinsonwelcome back didrocks08:56
seb128_hey marcustomlinson , wb didrocks! doing alright today?08:58
marcustomlinsonseb128_: doing fine, you?09:01
dufluHi marcustomlinson 09:01
marcustomlinsonhey duflu09:01
didrocksseb128_: doing well, despite a lot of things to do here for the coming weeks I guess :)09:02
didrocksthanks marcustomlinson 09:02
TrevinhoHola!10:02
didrockshey Trevinho 10:10
Trevinhohi didrocks, you also back from hols!10:10
didrocksyes :) even if I would call that "holidays" (moving to the new house, finishing/building things :p)10:16
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seb128Trevinho, hey, how are you? had a good week off?10:32
Laney moin marcustomlinson seb128 Trevinho 10:33
Trevinhohi Laney 10:34
Trevinhoseb128: yeah, discovered a pretty nice area of Spain (Javea -> Calp), quite unexpected beauties over there10:34
Trevinhoeven better this year as the Brits didn't come :-D :-D10:35
LaneyWHAT10:36
marcustomlinsonhey Laney10:37
Trevinhoahah, I mean, less crowded... more naturalistic :P10:37
didrocksmeaning that the Brits are artificials? :p10:41
Laneyit sounds like jealousy that these people discovered the beautiful place first to me 😤10:42
Laneytbh, not far from Benidorm, ... ¬_¬10:42
TrevinhoWell Benidorm is nice, but it's even too much "America" to me, I prefer the areas in between Calp and Javea where they keep the Mediterranean style of 1-2 floor houses.10:43
Trevinhowell, mostly villas, but still, at least they didn't ruin the coast.10:43
jibelxnox, hi, what it the option again to skip install media check during boot on ubuntu desktop?10:44
Trevinhohowever, I can't blame the Brits there given that the Cousin of a guy that was with me in Bali runs a bar there and they invited me and Dayana for some free drinks :D10:44
Laneythis guy has been a good contact for you!10:45
GunnarHjHi Trevinho, saw that you assigned bug #1890875 for bionic to yourself. Are you aware that there is already a fix in the bionic queue?11:26
ubot5bug 1890875 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu Bionic) "Keyboard won't switch its layout to a newly added second input source unless their order is rearranged" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189087511:26
Laneyk, finally, I think the u-m stuff is good enough to hand over11:48
* Laney cleans up & pushes a branch11:48
didrocks(and turn around without ever looking again :))11:53
Laneyideally11:59
Laneythat only works if you didn't create any bugs though11:59
Laneywhich I definitely did not!11:59
TrevinhoGunnarHj: hey, yes it was a mistake... I set it back and updated again, also I've updated the cvs with that12:46
KGB-1gnome-shell signed tags 58212e1 Marco Trevisan ubuntu/3.28.4-0ubuntu18.04.5 * gnome-shell Debian release 3.28.4-0ubuntu18.04.5 * https://deb.li/XHfM12:47
KGB-1gnome-shell ubuntu/bionic 9c38922 Marco Trevisan * pushed 6 commits (first 5 follow) * https://deb.li/ikvij12:47
KGB-1gnome-shell ubuntu/bionic cdb5222 Marco Trevisan (Treviño) debian/ (6 files in 3 dirs) * Import Debian changes 3.28.4-0ubuntu18.04.3 * https://deb.li/tHGA12:47
KGB-1gnome-shell ubuntu/bionic ed7d95c Gunnar Hjalmarsson debian/ changelog patches/series patches/keyboardManager_apply-added-input-sources-instantly.patch * Import Debian changes 3.28.4-0ubuntu18.04.4 * https://deb.li/3rvWi12:47
KGB-1gnome-shell ubuntu/bionic 315ef3c Marco Trevisan (Treviño) debian/patches/ series keyboardManager-Avoid-idempotent-calls-to-meta_backend_se.patch * d/p/keyboardManager-Avoid-idempotent-calls-to-meta_backend_se.patch: Fix tagging * https://deb.li/yfM012:47
KGB-1gnome-shell ubuntu/bionic 167f949 Marco Trevisan (Treviño) debian/patches/ series shell-global-Make-saving-of-persistent-state-asynchronous.patch * debian/patches: shell-global: Make saving of persistent state asynchronous * https://deb.li/3M0L212:47
KGB-1gnome-shell ubuntu/bionic d0541e7 Marco Trevisan (Treviño) debian/changelog * Update changelog * https://deb.li/I0ys12:47
KGB-1gnome-shell tags 0410be8 Marco Trevisan ubuntu/3.28.4-0ubuntu18.04.3 * Debian release 3.28.4-0ubuntu18.04.3 * https://deb.li/3mHZU12:48
KGB-1gnome-shell tags 2295ada Marco Trevisan ubuntu/3.28.4-0ubuntu18.04.4 * Debian release 3.28.4-0ubuntu18.04.4 * https://deb.li/3Uw4n12:48
GunnarHjTrevin12:50
GunnarHjTrevinho: But since you apparently had other things pending, wouldn't it be better to drop my upload and do one SRU round only?12:52
TrevinhoGunnarHj: I can't drop it from the queue, so I've just added one, but indeed we can ask anyone with permissions to delete the duplicated one. My changes files include yours, so sure the first one in queue, can be deleted.12:53
TrevinhoThere's some community contribution to get the dock to have the unity7-style app windows selection (so using the overview): https://github.com/micheleg/dash-to-dock/pull/125312:54
TrevinhoIs it something we could be interested in having as default, or are we happy with the menu?12:54
GunnarHjTrevinho: Probably the SRU team will ignore my upload anyway. Otherwise.. seb128, can you possibly drop my 3.28.4-0ubuntu18.04.4 upload of gnome-shell from the bionic queue?12:56
TrevinhoGunnarHj: yeah they normally do that, but if someone arrives earlier enough, better :)12:57
juliankhey guys, have you considered seeding sane-airscan so we get driverless scanning out of the box?13:11
juliankImagine just loading a live disk and connecting to wifi and being able to print and scan on the network without any effort :)13:12
jibelit's only useful if your printer or scanner is not already driverless 13:34
jibeli've an HP all in one printer and had nothing to do on the client13:35
xnoxjibel:  http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/groovy/en/man7/casper.7.html#recognized%20boot%20options => third one down document skip the filesystem13:57
xnoxalso groovy is not in the title bar, i wonder why13:58
hellsworthgood morning desktopers14:34
didrocks999hey hellsworth 14:38
hellswortho/14:38
hellsworthhope you had a nice weekend didrocks999 :)14:39
didrocks999too many 9 :p14:39
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didrocksweek-end and "holidays" were nice, but not relaxing :)14:39
didrocksyou?14:39
hellsworthsame. hanging out with a toddler is busy but fun14:40
didrocksand try that while finishing paintings, kitchen and flooring building, I can tell you this is the next challenge :p14:42
hellsworthwow well didrocks i hope you can take a nap one day :)14:46
jibelxnox, thanks14:50
didrockshellsworth: planned in a few years :p14:57
hellsworth:)14:57
hellsworthLaney: ricotz i have an armhf build of 7.0 with gcc 9 now: https://launchpad.net/~hellsworth/+archive/ubuntu/libreoffice8/+packages15:14
KGB-1mozjs ubuntu/focal 4d8c001 Marco Trevisan . * branch deleted15:14
TrevinhoLaney: it works! :)15:15
Laney^_^15:15
Laneyto you both15:15
Laneyhellsworth: I tried a 10 build again, and for some reason it compiled this time: https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/4206/+packages15:15
Laneygo figure?15:15
hellsworthhaha so this is how the week is going to be :)15:16
hellsworththat's wild. why the heck would it pass now?15:16
Laneyhttps://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/groovy-changes/2020-August/thread.html something in there fixed it?15:17
Laneyguess the next test is if the autopkgtest works or that URP thing happens again15:17
hellsworthrighto15:17
hellsworthif the urp failure shows up again, i can't even15:18
hellsworthLaney: i'm copying your passing 6.4.5 binaries to my ppa and then will run autopkgtests with all fingers and toes crossed15:23
Laneyhellsworth: no need, it's already running15:23
Laneybileto has that shizzle built in15:23
hellsworthoh 15:23
Laneyhttps://bileto.ubuntu.com/excuses/4206/groovy.html15:23
hellsworthi've not known about bileto so neat15:25
hellsworthwell i can't wait to hear how it goes then :)15:25
ricotzhellsworth, hi, please see my email15:26
Laneyrefresh that page in many hours from now :>15:26
ricotzhttps://launchpad.net/%7Elibreoffice/+archive/ubuntu/libreoffice-prereleases/+sourcepub/11529591/+listing-archive-extra15:27
ricotzplease just pick up 7.0.1~rc1 for groovy15:27
Laneyricotz: with 10?15:27
Laneygcc15:27
ricotzwith gcc 9 on armhf15:28
Laneymmm15:28
Laneycan you just throw an armhf/10 into some random ppa please? i'm interested that 6.4.5 started working again15:29
Laneyor if it fails then there's a source that I can build myself interactively to get something to give to do_ko15:29
ricotzLaney, the gcc ICE happened randomly and together with test failure (timeout) is failed constantly15:30
ricotzsuprisingly debian didn't hit this issue with gcc 1015:31
Laneynot for 6.4.5 any more, I got like 3 successful builds in a row now15:31
ricotzinteresting15:31
ricotzdid some toolchain change sneak in lately15:32
Laneyinfuriating, I wanted to get the ICE in my sbuild build :p15:32
ricotzLaney, you could copy libreoffice - 1:7.0.1~rc1-0ubuntu0.20.10.1 source from -prereleases ppa into an armhf ppa of your choice15:33
ricotzfor testing15:33
ricotzthe packaging of it should not go into groovy as is15:34
Laneyok, I'll use 4206 once that finishes15:34
ricotzLaney, https://launchpad.net/~libreoffice/+archive/ubuntu/libreoffice-prereleases/+copy-packages?field.name_filter=libreoffice&field.status_filter=&field.series_filter=groovy15:35
Laneyty15:35
Laneyright15:58
Laneylet's do a package update15:58
Laneysee if I remember how15:58
juliankjibel: That's not because it's driverless, but because we ship HP drivers16:24
juliankjibel: Driverless printing/scanning, printing we have by default, enables you to print/scan to Brother devices, for example16:25
juliankBasically this adds support for any scanner we don't have an explicit driver for16:25
juliank[this is re sane-airscan from 3h ago]16:26
juliankI think Canon is another vendor that benefits16:27
juliankI think a bunch of others too16:28
juliankHP obviously not much given that we install hplip16:28
juliankit doesn't have any extra deps we don't already have, so it's a really smart move to include and get scanning on a lot more devices out of the box16:31
juliank:D16:31
juliank[Depends: libavahi-client3 (>= 0.6.16), libavahi-common3 (>= 0.6.16), libc6 (>= 2.17), libgnutls30 (>= 3.6.12), libjpeg8 (>= 8c), libpng16-16 (>= 1.6.2-1), libxml2 (>= 2.7.4)]16:31
juliankNot sure what the status is, people are all super excited about it, there was talk about merging it into sane-backends, but it might have a faster release cycle atm16:32
LaneyYou probably want to talk to tkamppeter when around16:34
juliankLaney: Right16:39
juliankLaney: He isn't, I thought maybe someone else is super excited and wants to push this :)16:40

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