[01:10] <callmepk> good morning
[01:46] <duflu> Morning callmepk 
[01:46] <callmepk> morning
[02:06] <callmepk> morning duflu 
[06:53] <didrocks> good morning
[06:59] <jibel> morning all
[07:03] <didrocks> salut jibel 
[07:07] <jibel> Salut didrocks, ça va? le déménagement est terminé?
[07:10] <didrocks> jibel: tout dépend de la définition de terminé. Il reste encore plein de choses à faire comme la peinture, les plinthes et régler avec le constructeur les problèmes qui se sont avérés (mais il est encore en vacance cette semaine)
[07:10] <didrocks> ah, et aussi recevoir les derniers bouts de cuisine explosé en 8 envoies séparés
[07:11] <jibel> didrocks, bon, ça fait partie des joies d'une nouvelle maison :)
[07:11] <didrocks> (beaucoup de livraison non reçus, dont le frigo qui est arrivé après 5 appels au SAV et 13 jours de retard…)
[07:11] <didrocks> bref, compliqué :)
[07:11] <didrocks> et toi ?
[07:12] <jibel> ça va bien. rien de spécial.
[07:13] <duflu> Morning didrocks and jibel 
[07:16] <didrocks> hey duflu 
[07:19] <jibel> hi duflu 
[07:31] <duflu> didrocks, wrong day? :) https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/desktop-team-updates-monday-03rd-august-2020/17595/11
[07:54] <didrocks> duflu: not wrong day, but I had this in cache before going on holidays and realized I hadn’t post it
[07:54] <duflu> Oh, fair enough
=== paride|off is now known as paride
[08:06] <Laney> ANYBODY WANT SOME UPDAWG?
[08:06] <didrocks> hey hey Laney 
[08:11] <Laney> wb didrocks!
[08:11] <Laney> what percentage complete are you now?
[08:13] <didrocks> Laney: hard to estimate, still a long way to go to have a decent kitchen and such :)
[08:14] <didrocks> complexity is dealing with Martin while still having things to be done and handling the old appartement before selling (we need to do a big cleaning there)
[08:16] <Laney> yeah, few years and he could assist with painting :>
[08:16] <didrocks> right :p
[08:16] <didrocks> the issue is that he wants to assist right now instead of playing with his games :)
[08:17] <didrocks> at least, today, we receive our bin, finally!
[08:18] <Laney> \o\
[08:20] <duflu>  /o/
[08:21] <seb128> goood morning desktopers
[08:21] <duflu> Hi seb128 
[08:22] <seb128> hey duflu , how are you? had a good w.e?
[08:24] <duflu> seb128, I'm 80%. Lots of family and a birthday on the weekend. Almost normal although people should probably be more socially distant than they are... You?
[08:25] <seb128> I'm alright! weekend was not the most relaxing, packed and took the road again for another corner of France
[08:25] <didrocks> hey seb128 
[08:25] <duflu> seb128, sounds nice
[08:26] <duflu> seb128, btw was there a reason we still ship gdm3 3.34?
[08:26] <duflu> Other than it was never branch-tagged upstream correctly
[08:26] <duflu> There is a gnome-3-36 branch with tags
[08:27] <duflu> Looks like we miss out on some interesting fixes
[08:29] <seb128> duflu, 3.36 tarballs came after 3.36.1 iirc
[08:29] <duflu> yeah
[08:29] <seb128> http://ftp.acc.umu.se/pub/gnome/sources/gdm/3.36/
[08:29] <seb128> from june
[08:29] <seb128> so just that we moved to other things than GNOME updates in between june and now
[08:30] <seb128> I expect we will get it update as we deal with 3.37 twhich started)
[08:30] <duflu> ok
[08:30] <seb128> duflu, it's listed on https://trello.com/b/sdyPskaS/gnome-338
[08:31] <seb128> could one for L_aney if he has some slots to help with updates this week
[08:42] <seb128_> bah, internet disconnect and I didn't notice for a while
[08:55]  * marcustomlinson opens IRC
[08:55] <marcustomlinson> morning desktoppers
[08:55] <didrocks> hey marcustomlinson 
[08:56] <marcustomlinson> welcome back didrocks
[08:58] <seb128_> hey marcustomlinson , wb didrocks! doing alright today?
[09:01] <marcustomlinson> seb128_: doing fine, you?
[09:01] <duflu> Hi marcustomlinson 
[09:01] <marcustomlinson> hey duflu
[09:02] <didrocks> seb128_: doing well, despite a lot of things to do here for the coming weeks I guess :)
[09:02] <didrocks> thanks marcustomlinson 
[10:02] <Trevinho> Hola!
[10:10] <didrocks> hey Trevinho 
[10:10] <Trevinho> hi didrocks, you also back from hols!
[10:16] <didrocks> yes :) even if I would call that "holidays" (moving to the new house, finishing/building things :p)
=== seb128_ is now known as seb128
[10:32] <seb128> Trevinho, hey, how are you? had a good week off?
[10:33] <Laney>  moin marcustomlinson seb128 Trevinho 
[10:34] <Trevinho> hi Laney 
[10:34] <Trevinho> seb128: yeah, discovered a pretty nice area of Spain (Javea -> Calp), quite unexpected beauties over there
[10:35] <Trevinho> even better this year as the Brits didn't come :-D :-D
[10:36] <Laney> WHAT
[10:37] <marcustomlinson> hey Laney
[10:37] <Trevinho> ahah, I mean, less crowded... more naturalistic :P
[10:41] <didrocks> meaning that the Brits are artificials? :p
[10:42] <Laney> it sounds like jealousy that these people discovered the beautiful place first to me 😤
[10:42] <Laney> tbh, not far from Benidorm, ... ¬_¬
[10:43] <Trevinho> Well Benidorm is nice, but it's even too much "America" to me, I prefer the areas in between Calp and Javea where they keep the Mediterranean style of 1-2 floor houses.
[10:43] <Trevinho> well, mostly villas, but still, at least they didn't ruin the coast.
[10:44] <jibel> xnox, hi, what it the option again to skip install media check during boot on ubuntu desktop?
[10:44] <Trevinho> however, I can't blame the Brits there given that the Cousin of a guy that was with me in Bali runs a bar there and they invited me and Dayana for some free drinks :D
[10:45] <Laney> this guy has been a good contact for you!
[11:26] <GunnarHj> Hi Trevinho, saw that you assigned bug #1890875 for bionic to yourself. Are you aware that there is already a fix in the bionic queue?
[11:26] <ubot5> bug 1890875 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu Bionic) "Keyboard won't switch its layout to a newly added second input source unless their order is rearranged" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1890875
[11:48] <Laney> k, finally, I think the u-m stuff is good enough to hand over
[11:48]  * Laney cleans up & pushes a branch
[11:53] <didrocks> (and turn around without ever looking again :))
[11:59] <Laney> ideally
[11:59] <Laney> that only works if you didn't create any bugs though
[11:59] <Laney> which I definitely did not!
[12:46] <Trevinho> GunnarHj: hey, yes it was a mistake... I set it back and updated again, also I've updated the cvs with that
[12:47] <KGB-1> gnome-shell signed tags 58212e1 Marco Trevisan ubuntu/3.28.4-0ubuntu18.04.5 * gnome-shell Debian release 3.28.4-0ubuntu18.04.5 * https://deb.li/XHfM
[12:47] <KGB-1> gnome-shell ubuntu/bionic 9c38922 Marco Trevisan * pushed 6 commits (first 5 follow) * https://deb.li/ikvij
[12:47] <KGB-1> gnome-shell ubuntu/bionic cdb5222 Marco Trevisan (Treviño) debian/ (6 files in 3 dirs) * Import Debian changes 3.28.4-0ubuntu18.04.3 * https://deb.li/tHGA
[12:47] <KGB-1> gnome-shell ubuntu/bionic ed7d95c Gunnar Hjalmarsson debian/ changelog patches/series patches/keyboardManager_apply-added-input-sources-instantly.patch * Import Debian changes 3.28.4-0ubuntu18.04.4 * https://deb.li/3rvWi
[12:47] <KGB-1> gnome-shell ubuntu/bionic 315ef3c Marco Trevisan (Treviño) debian/patches/ series keyboardManager-Avoid-idempotent-calls-to-meta_backend_se.patch * d/p/keyboardManager-Avoid-idempotent-calls-to-meta_backend_se.patch: Fix tagging * https://deb.li/yfM0
[12:47] <KGB-1> gnome-shell ubuntu/bionic 167f949 Marco Trevisan (Treviño) debian/patches/ series shell-global-Make-saving-of-persistent-state-asynchronous.patch * debian/patches: shell-global: Make saving of persistent state asynchronous * https://deb.li/3M0L2
[12:47] <KGB-1> gnome-shell ubuntu/bionic d0541e7 Marco Trevisan (Treviño) debian/changelog * Update changelog * https://deb.li/I0ys
[12:48] <KGB-1> gnome-shell tags 0410be8 Marco Trevisan ubuntu/3.28.4-0ubuntu18.04.3 * Debian release 3.28.4-0ubuntu18.04.3 * https://deb.li/3mHZU
[12:48] <KGB-1> gnome-shell tags 2295ada Marco Trevisan ubuntu/3.28.4-0ubuntu18.04.4 * Debian release 3.28.4-0ubuntu18.04.4 * https://deb.li/3Uw4n
[12:50] <GunnarHj> Trevin
[12:52] <GunnarHj> Trevinho: But since you apparently had other things pending, wouldn't it be better to drop my upload and do one SRU round only?
[12:53] <Trevinho> GunnarHj: I can't drop it from the queue, so I've just added one, but indeed we can ask anyone with permissions to delete the duplicated one. My changes files include yours, so sure the first one in queue, can be deleted.
[12:54] <Trevinho> There's some community contribution to get the dock to have the unity7-style app windows selection (so using the overview): https://github.com/micheleg/dash-to-dock/pull/1253
[12:54] <Trevinho> Is it something we could be interested in having as default, or are we happy with the menu?
[12:56] <GunnarHj> Trevinho: Probably the SRU team will ignore my upload anyway. Otherwise.. seb128, can you possibly drop my 3.28.4-0ubuntu18.04.4 upload of gnome-shell from the bionic queue?
[12:57] <Trevinho> GunnarHj: yeah they normally do that, but if someone arrives earlier enough, better :)
[13:11] <juliank> hey guys, have you considered seeding sane-airscan so we get driverless scanning out of the box?
[13:12] <juliank> Imagine just loading a live disk and connecting to wifi and being able to print and scan on the network without any effort :)
[13:34] <jibel> it's only useful if your printer or scanner is not already driverless 
[13:35] <jibel> i've an HP all in one printer and had nothing to do on the client
[13:57] <xnox> jibel:  http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/groovy/en/man7/casper.7.html#recognized%20boot%20options => third one down document skip the filesystem
[13:58] <xnox> also groovy is not in the title bar, i wonder why
[14:34] <hellsworth> good morning desktopers
[14:38] <didrocks999> hey hellsworth 
[14:38] <hellsworth> o/
[14:39] <hellsworth> hope you had a nice weekend didrocks999 :)
[14:39] <didrocks999> too many 9 :p
=== didrocks999 is now known as didrocks
[14:39] <didrocks> week-end and "holidays" were nice, but not relaxing :)
[14:39] <didrocks> you?
[14:40] <hellsworth> same. hanging out with a toddler is busy but fun
[14:42] <didrocks> and try that while finishing paintings, kitchen and flooring building, I can tell you this is the next challenge :p
[14:46] <hellsworth> wow well didrocks i hope you can take a nap one day :)
[14:50] <jibel> xnox, thanks
[14:57] <didrocks> hellsworth: planned in a few years :p
[14:57] <hellsworth> :)
[15:14] <hellsworth> Laney: ricotz i have an armhf build of 7.0 with gcc 9 now: https://launchpad.net/~hellsworth/+archive/ubuntu/libreoffice8/+packages
[15:14] <KGB-1> mozjs ubuntu/focal 4d8c001 Marco Trevisan . * branch deleted
[15:15] <Trevinho> Laney: it works! :)
[15:15] <Laney> ^_^
[15:15] <Laney> to you both
[15:15] <Laney> hellsworth: I tried a 10 build again, and for some reason it compiled this time: https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/4206/+packages
[15:15] <Laney> go figure?
[15:16] <hellsworth> haha so this is how the week is going to be :)
[15:16] <hellsworth> that's wild. why the heck would it pass now?
[15:17] <Laney> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/groovy-changes/2020-August/thread.html something in there fixed it?
[15:17] <Laney> guess the next test is if the autopkgtest works or that URP thing happens again
[15:17] <hellsworth> righto
[15:18] <hellsworth> if the urp failure shows up again, i can't even
[15:23] <hellsworth> Laney: i'm copying your passing 6.4.5 binaries to my ppa and then will run autopkgtests with all fingers and toes crossed
[15:23] <Laney> hellsworth: no need, it's already running
[15:23] <Laney> bileto has that shizzle built in
[15:23] <hellsworth> oh 
[15:23] <Laney> https://bileto.ubuntu.com/excuses/4206/groovy.html
[15:25] <hellsworth> i've not known about bileto so neat
[15:25] <hellsworth> well i can't wait to hear how it goes then :)
[15:26] <ricotz> hellsworth, hi, please see my email
[15:26] <Laney> refresh that page in many hours from now :>
[15:27] <ricotz> https://launchpad.net/%7Elibreoffice/+archive/ubuntu/libreoffice-prereleases/+sourcepub/11529591/+listing-archive-extra
[15:27] <ricotz> please just pick up 7.0.1~rc1 for groovy
[15:27] <Laney> ricotz: with 10?
[15:27] <Laney> gcc
[15:28] <ricotz> with gcc 9 on armhf
[15:28] <Laney> mmm
[15:29] <Laney> can you just throw an armhf/10 into some random ppa please? i'm interested that 6.4.5 started working again
[15:29] <Laney> or if it fails then there's a source that I can build myself interactively to get something to give to do_ko
[15:30] <ricotz> Laney, the gcc ICE happened randomly and together with test failure (timeout) is failed constantly
[15:31] <ricotz> suprisingly debian didn't hit this issue with gcc 10
[15:31] <Laney> not for 6.4.5 any more, I got like 3 successful builds in a row now
[15:31] <ricotz> interesting
[15:32] <ricotz> did some toolchain change sneak in lately
[15:32] <Laney> infuriating, I wanted to get the ICE in my sbuild build :p
[15:33] <ricotz> Laney, you could copy libreoffice - 1:7.0.1~rc1-0ubuntu0.20.10.1 source from -prereleases ppa into an armhf ppa of your choice
[15:33] <ricotz> for testing
[15:34] <ricotz> the packaging of it should not go into groovy as is
[15:34] <Laney> ok, I'll use 4206 once that finishes
[15:35] <ricotz> Laney, https://launchpad.net/~libreoffice/+archive/ubuntu/libreoffice-prereleases/+copy-packages?field.name_filter=libreoffice&field.status_filter=&field.series_filter=groovy
[15:35] <Laney> ty
[15:58] <Laney> right
[15:58] <Laney> let's do a package update
[15:58] <Laney> see if I remember how
[16:24] <juliank> jibel: That's not because it's driverless, but because we ship HP drivers
[16:25] <juliank> jibel: Driverless printing/scanning, printing we have by default, enables you to print/scan to Brother devices, for example
[16:25] <juliank> Basically this adds support for any scanner we don't have an explicit driver for
[16:26] <juliank> [this is re sane-airscan from 3h ago]
[16:27] <juliank> I think Canon is another vendor that benefits
[16:28] <juliank> I think a bunch of others too
[16:28] <juliank> HP obviously not much given that we install hplip
[16:31] <juliank> it doesn't have any extra deps we don't already have, so it's a really smart move to include and get scanning on a lot more devices out of the box
[16:31] <juliank> :D
[16:31] <juliank> [Depends: libavahi-client3 (>= 0.6.16), libavahi-common3 (>= 0.6.16), libc6 (>= 2.17), libgnutls30 (>= 3.6.12), libjpeg8 (>= 8c), libpng16-16 (>= 1.6.2-1), libxml2 (>= 2.7.4)]
[16:32] <juliank> Not sure what the status is, people are all super excited about it, there was talk about merging it into sane-backends, but it might have a faster release cycle atm
[16:34] <Laney> You probably want to talk to tkamppeter when around
[16:39] <juliank> Laney: Right
[16:40] <juliank> Laney: He isn't, I thought maybe someone else is super excited and wants to push this :)