| callmepk | good morning | 01:48 |
|---|---|---|
| duflu | Belated good morning, callmepk | 02:56 |
| callmepk | Sorry for late greeting duflu | 05:11 |
| duflu | I meant I was late :) | 05:12 |
| callmepk | Yeah, but I was also late to reply you :| | 05:12 |
| seb128 | goood morning desktopers! | 06:12 |
| Maik | good morning seb128 | 06:13 |
| duflu | Morning seb128 | 06:17 |
| didrocks | good morning | 06:56 |
| jibel | hi all | 06:58 |
| didrocks | salut jibel | 07:00 |
| jibel | Salut didrocks, ça va? | 07:08 |
| didrocks | jibel:ça va, et toi ? | 07:12 |
| didrocks | trying to add a printer to my system -> fail | 07:15 |
| didrocks | detection works, adding the driver works, but then, no printing (just task is ending, as if it was printing) | 07:16 |
| didrocks | this printer used to work like a charm on older version than our LTS | 07:16 |
| jibel | didrocks, ça va bien merci. | 07:30 |
| jibel | didrocks, what is the printer? | 07:31 |
| jibel | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingPrintingProblems | 07:31 |
| JanC | some printer drivers aren't good at detecting when a document is too large (or too large to be printed at once) | 07:31 |
| JanC | at least, that's my impression :) | 07:32 |
| didrocks | jibel: epson stylus photo rx560 | 07:33 |
| * didrocks looks at the wiki | 07:33 | |
| JanC | might be useful to mention if the printer gives an error or not :) | 07:33 |
| didrocks | no, task is ending successfully | 07:39 |
| didrocks | just nothing happens | 07:39 |
| didrocks | tkamppeter: hey, I filed it with the logs from the wiki on bug #1891987 | 07:44 |
| ubot5 | bug 1891987 in cups (Ubuntu) "epson stylus photo rx560 is detected, added, but when printing, task is ending up immediatelly with success" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1891987 | 07:44 |
| Laney | sup yo | 08:06 |
| didrocks | hey Laney | 08:08 |
| marcustomlinson | morning desktoppers | 08:11 |
| didrocks | hey marcustomlinson | 08:11 |
| Laney | moin didrocks marcustomlinson | 08:21 |
| duflu | Morning didrocks, jibel, Laney, marcustomlinson | 08:24 |
| marcustomlinson | hiho didrocks Laney duflu | 08:24 |
| callmepk | morning didrocks jibel Laney marcustomlinson | 08:25 |
| marcustomlinson | hey callmepk | 08:25 |
| didrocks | hey duflu, callmepk | 08:32 |
| Laney | guten morgen duflu and callmepk! | 08:38 |
| * Laney loves the hello game | 08:38 | |
| Laney | never take it away from me | 08:38 |
| duflu | Ah a morning person | 08:38 |
| jibel | also called the fish tank game. | 09:12 |
| xnox | somehow i rebooted with sddm instead of gdm | 10:53 |
| duflu | I hear that fixes a few things :) | 10:56 |
| duflu | And good night | 10:56 |
| juliank | tkamppeter: what you think about seeding sane-airscan so we get driverless scanning out of the box in groovy? | 11:10 |
| luna_ | are you having a Desktop meeting today? | 11:13 |
| tkamppeter | didrocks, I will look into it. | 11:14 |
| tkamppeter | juliank, yes, this is my intention. Have you seen my MIR already? | 11:15 |
| juliank | tkamppeter: No I haven't seen it, but it's good to know | 11:15 |
| juliank | I found it | 11:16 |
| tkamppeter | bug 1891682 | 11:16 |
| ubot5 | bug 1891682 in sane-airscan (Ubuntu) "[MIR] sane-airscan" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1891682 | 11:16 |
| juliank | very excited :) | 11:17 |
| tkamppeter | juliank, we will soon be able to print, scan, and fax on all modern mulri-function devices, without needing drivers, with Groovy. | 11:21 |
| juliank | Now I just need such devices | 11:22 |
| juliank | :D | 11:22 |
| juliank | But like this opens up buying Brother devices | 11:22 |
| tkamppeter | And someone later, you can take an old printer, and old scanner, a Raspberry Pi, and a serving trolley to build your own professional multi-function device which also works all driverless with Linux. | 11:23 |
| juliank | Personally I don't have a scanner, and an older Brother laser printer (HL-2130), none are network capable, or even powered more than like a few mins a year | 11:23 |
| juliank | I do have a scanner actually, but it's an old HP MFP | 11:24 |
| juliank | The ink dried out all the time, so I got a used laser printer :) | 11:24 |
| tkamppeter | The printer and the scanner for your DIY multi-function device do not need to be network-capable, if they print with Linux and scan with SANE no problem. | 11:24 |
| juliank | because like, one page per quarter is not going to keep your ink working :) | 11:24 |
| juliank | Right | 11:25 |
| juliank | They are on a table with wheels | 11:25 |
| tkamppeter | The old HP MFP together with the Raspberry Pi can be turned into a modern multi-function device. | 11:25 |
| juliank | I just don't have enough power sockets :) | 11:25 |
| tkamppeter | Yes, on the table with wheels they get even a professional multi-function device. | 11:26 |
| juliank | But in any case, if my parent's HP multifunction device fails, they can now get a Brother, or a Canon for that matter | 11:26 |
| tkamppeter | There are power strips available for few bucks in any hardware store. | 11:26 |
| juliank | I have some power strips chained into each other | 11:27 |
| juliank | :D | 11:27 |
| tkamppeter | Yes, any modern device which is supposed to work with a phone, works, independent of manufacturer, this is the wonderful world of driverless printing. | 11:27 |
| juliank | At least their HP printer still "works" | 11:28 |
| juliank | YOu need to open and close it if you want to print color | 11:28 |
| juliank | the color ink cartridge is a bit broken I suppose | 11:28 |
| juliank | And they have Instant Ink which means talk to customer support to request a new one | 11:28 |
| juliank | But apart from color ink failing every 2 years, it's OK | 11:29 |
| tkamppeter | And if the scanning on a modern device does not work, the author of sane-airscan helps you to fix the quirk in a few hours. | 11:29 |
| tkamppeter | If you print only once in a quarter get a laser, there is no ink to dry out. | 11:30 |
| tkamppeter | And if its a photo to print one in a quarter, take your USB stick to the drugstore. | 11:30 |
| tkamppeter | This is a hardware problem which we cannot solve at OpenPrinting. | 11:31 |
| juliank | Yup | 11:31 |
| juliank | My parents they unfortunately insist on having a color printer | 11:31 |
| juliank | And like 100€ they think is very expensive for a printer | 11:31 |
| juliank | (multi function printer) | 11:31 |
| juliank | Otherwise they'd get a nice laser printer too | 11:32 |
| tkamppeter | There are also cheap color lasers, and if they do driverless IPP (print from phone) they work with Linux. | 11:32 |
| juliank | this printer cost 60€ and is 4 years old, and they spend 3€/month on ink | 11:34 |
| juliank | surprisingly this came out cheaper than buying the expensive model with the cheap ink | 11:34 |
| juliank | Well, maybe not, I estimated a 2 year life time IIRC | 11:35 |
| juliank | no printer before it survived that long | 11:36 |
| juliank | (and IIRC 5y for the expensive one) | 11:36 |
| juliank | BUt I can't find the spreadsheet :( | 11:36 |
| * juliank has 0 trust in HP printers | 11:36 | |
| tkamppeter | There were HP lasers in former times which are still around, older than 10 years. | 11:37 |
| tkamppeter | I am working on printing with Linux for exactly 20 years now: | 11:37 |
| tkamppeter | https://openprinting.github.io/OpenPrinting-News-August-2020/ | 11:37 |
| juliank | HP lasers were good, some are good | 11:37 |
| juliank | but these cheap 60€ inkjets were always a desaster | 11:38 |
| juliank | tkamppeter: congratulations? | 11:39 |
| tkamppeter | They probably last simply the 2 years which are the minimum guarantee required in the EU. | 11:39 |
| tkamppeter | Thanks. | 11:39 |
| juliank | Not sure if this one lasts longer because it gets fed with instant ink subscription cartridges rather than free market ones | 11:40 |
| juliank | #conspiracy | 11:40 |
| tkamppeter | Printers are loss leaders, the printer is sold with loss and the manufacturers earns with ink. | 11:41 |
| marcustomlinson | that's interesting | 11:59 |
| Laney | Big Ink | 12:04 |
| ricotz | heya desktopers! | 12:24 |
| marcustomlinson | hey ricotz | 12:33 |
| KGB-0 | gnome-shell tags dbb7fef Marco Trevisan ubuntu/3.36.4-1ubuntu1_20.04.2 * Debian release 3.36.4-1ubuntu1~20.04.2 * https://deb.li/3QxWy | 12:37 |
| KGB-0 | gnome-shell ubuntu/focal 6eebbea Marc Deslauriers debian/ (5 files in 2 dirs) * Import Debian changes 3.36.4-1ubuntu1~20.04.2 * https://deb.li/quXG | 12:37 |
| hellsworth | good morning desktopers | 13:26 |
| luna_ | hello hellsworth | 13:29 |
| Wimpress | Hi hellsworth o/ | 13:29 |
| hellsworth | hi folks :) | 13:29 |
| Wimpress | #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2020-08-18 | 13:30 |
| meetingology | Meeting started Tue Aug 18 13:30:11 2020 UTC. The chair is Wimpress. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. | 13:30 |
| meetingology | Available commands: action commands idea info link nick | 13:30 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/mxaCZTVc | GNOME 3.36 work claiming / tracking: https://trello.com/b/z29JJK3q/gnome-336 | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2020-08-18 | Current topic: | ||
| Wimpress | Roll call: didrocks, duflu, hellsworth, jamesh, jibel, kenvandine, Laney, marcustomlinson, oSo_MoN, seb128 , tkamppeter, Trevinho, robert_ancell, callmepk | 13:30 |
| marcustomlinson | \o | 13:30 |
| Trevinho | o/ | 13:30 |
| hellsworth | o/ | 13:30 |
| jibel | \o | 13:30 |
| kenvandine | o/ | 13:30 |
| callmepk | o/ | 13:30 |
| luna_ | o/ | 13:30 |
| didrocks999 | o/ | 13:30 |
| Wimpress | Hello all o/ | 13:30 |
| seb128 | \o_ | 13:30 |
| Wimpress | #topic rls-bb-bugs | 13:31 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/mxaCZTVc | GNOME 3.36 work claiming / tracking: https://trello.com/b/z29JJK3q/gnome-336 | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2020-08-18 | Current topic: rls-bb-bugs | ||
| Wimpress | http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html | 13:31 |
| Wimpress | http://launchpad.net/bugs/1888505 | 13:31 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1888505 in libreoffice (Ubuntu) "Two-finger touchpad zoom extremely sensitive" [Low,New] | 13:32 |
| Wimpress | Not sure that is rls critical? | 13:32 |
| seb128 | it was discussed and was meant to be untagged no? | 13:32 |
| Wimpress | Tagged as wontfix | 13:32 |
| Wimpress | http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-tracking-bug-tasks.html | 13:33 |
| hellsworth | oh yes thank you Wimpress | 13:33 |
| Wimpress | hellsworth: np | 13:33 |
| Wimpress | bb-tracking all looks in hand. | 13:33 |
| Wimpress | #topic rls-ff-bugs | 13:34 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/mxaCZTVc | GNOME 3.36 work claiming / tracking: https://trello.com/b/z29JJK3q/gnome-336 | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2020-08-18 | Current topic: rls-ff-bugs | ||
| Wimpress | http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-incoming-bug-tasks.html | 13:34 |
| Laney | notfixing not wontfix fwiw | 13:34 |
| Wimpress | Thanks Laney | 13:34 |
| KGB-0 | gnome-control-center ubuntu/master 09b77b5 Sebastien Bacher debian/patches/0029-applications-Use-new-snapd-glib-API-for-labelling-Sn.patch * remove patch that isn't needed anymore * https://deb.li/yiwU | 13:34 |
| Wimpress | http://launchpad.net/bugs/1891476 | 13:34 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1891476 in gtkmm3.0 (Ubuntu) "gtkmm3.0 ftbfs in focal" [High,Confirmed] | 13:34 |
| seb128 | (shush KGB-0, don't tell me off for pushing commits during a meeting!) | 13:35 |
| kenvandine | lol | 13:35 |
| seb128 | I've no strong opinion on whether a ftbfs is a rls issue in a stable serie | 13:36 |
| seb128 | what do other think? | 13:36 |
| kenvandine | it is a little concerning that something was uploaded to break that | 13:36 |
| seb128 | well, that package didn't change much for a while | 13:37 |
| seb128 | so could well be a toolchain update and we didn't catch it because it was not rebuilt during the cycle | 13:37 |
| seb128 | anyway, do we +1 or -1 that? | 13:37 |
| Laney | I think it should be, if there was another fix needed then this would block that | 13:37 |
| seb128 | I would tend to -1 personnally | 13:37 |
| seb128 | if we need to do an upload fixing the build as well makes sense | 13:38 |
| Wimpress | So, what to do? | 13:39 |
| didrocks999 | I think we should link that to another fix as well (do we have a VCS just to stage the patch there and avoid investigation if we don’t find the bug when looking at it?) | 13:40 |
| seb128 | Wimpress, you decide :-) | 13:40 |
| Wimpress | That sounds sensible. Land the patch but but don't upload until something else requires with upload? | 13:40 |
| seb128 | I think it doesn't need to be targetted, Laney seems to have a preference for doing it | 13:41 |
| seb128 | staging in the Vcs wfm | 13:41 |
| Wimpress | OK. | 13:41 |
| kenvandine | +1 | 13:41 |
| Wimpress | You owning that seb128 ? | 13:41 |
| seb128 | k | 13:41 |
| Wimpress | http://launchpad.net/bugs/1891478 | 13:42 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1891478 in orca (Ubuntu) "orca ftbfs in focal (amd64 only)" [High,Confirmed] | 13:42 |
| Laney | It's less helpful than ideal for e.g. the security team, but maybe that's ok | 13:42 |
| Laney | Marcus might want that one ^- | 13:43 |
| marcustomlinson | ok | 13:44 |
| seb128 | thx | 13:44 |
| Wimpress | Done | 13:44 |
| Wimpress | http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-tracking-bug-tasks.html | 13:44 |
| Wimpress | seb128: Do we review things tagged Wishlist? | 13:45 |
| seb128 | yes | 13:47 |
| Wimpress | http://launchpad.net/bugs/1891733 | 13:47 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1891733 in language-selector (Ubuntu Focal) "Support better Arabic font" [Wishlist,Confirmed] | 13:47 |
| Wimpress | Looks like Laney and GunnarHj are working on that one. | 13:48 |
| seb128 | GunnarHj seems to be on that so I would soimply assign to him | 13:48 |
| Laney | yeah, not me, I just gave my (wanted or not) opinions :-) | 13:48 |
| Laney | but Gunnar is actively on it | 13:48 |
| Wimpress | I think that concludes ff-tracking as we know about the SPICE issue. | 13:49 |
| luna_ | assigned it to GunnarHj | 13:49 |
| Wimpress | #topic rls-gg-bugs | 13:49 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/mxaCZTVc | GNOME 3.36 work claiming / tracking: https://trello.com/b/z29JJK3q/gnome-336 | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2020-08-18 | Current topic: rls-gg-bugs | ||
| Wimpress | http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-gg-incoming-bug-tasks.html | 13:49 |
| Wimpress | All fine. | 13:49 |
| Wimpress | http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-gg-tracking-bug-tasks.html | 13:49 |
| Wimpress | Also fine. | 13:50 |
| Wimpress | #topic update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages | 13:50 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/mxaCZTVc | GNOME 3.36 work claiming / tracking: https://trello.com/b/z29JJK3q/gnome-336 | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2020-08-18 | Current topic: update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages | ||
| Wimpress | https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages | 13:50 |
| luna_ | Can say Firefox 80 will be released next week, if someone feels like packing :P | 13:51 |
| seb128 | icu migrated that gave us a shorter report :-) | 13:51 |
| seb128 | luna_, Olivier will be back to handle that | 13:51 |
| luna_ | seb128: perfect | 13:51 |
| seb128 | Wimpress, nothing to worry about there, firefox/thunderbird are partially victims of reverts done to get icu to migrate | 13:51 |
| luna_ | got reminded when i saw 78/79 on the top of the list | 13:51 |
| seb128 | dnsmasq is being handled by others | 13:51 |
| Wimpress | OK | 13:52 |
| seb128 | libreoffice and udisks are known to be flaky and being retried | 13:52 |
| kenvandine | i read that as retired :) | 13:52 |
| Wimpress | Yeah, I uploaded some packages last night. Random failures on arm. Rebuilds worked. | 13:52 |
| Wimpress | #topic AOB | 13:53 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/mxaCZTVc | GNOME 3.36 work claiming / tracking: https://trello.com/b/z29JJK3q/gnome-336 | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2020-08-18 | Current topic: AOB | ||
| Wimpress | Anyone have anything? | 13:53 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, you wish :) | 13:54 |
| didrocks999 | nothing for me | 13:54 |
| kenvandine | :) | 13:54 |
| tkamppeter | Anyone in the desktop team wants to own golang-gopkg-ini.v1? | 13:54 |
| seb128 | https://trello.com/b/sdyPskaS/gnome-338 | 13:54 |
| seb128 | please help | 13:54 |
| seb128 | I can't handle that alone | 13:54 |
| Laney | udisks was meant to get unflaky with the latest upload, guessing that didn't work | 13:55 |
| Wimpress | tkamppeter: WHy are you interested in that package? | 13:55 |
| tkamppeter | To complete bug 1891157 | 13:55 |
| ubot5 | bug 1891157 in golang-github-openprinting-goipp (Ubuntu) "[MIR] ipp-usb" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1891157 | 13:55 |
| seb128 | Laney, there is a 2.9.1 out, I'm waiting for that to be uploaded to see if that makes a difference and if not I will spend some time on it | 13:55 |
| tkamppeter | To replace the flaky and now deprecated ippusbxd by ipp-usb | 13:55 |
| tkamppeter | To make IPP-over-USB reliably work. | 13:56 |
| Laney | seb128: ok, I was heading towards asking for us to assign that as a task :> | 13:56 |
| Wimpress | Sounds like you have a vested interested in maintaining that package tkamppeter :-) | 13:56 |
| kenvandine | indeed | 13:57 |
| tkamppeter | https://openprinting.github.io/OpenPrinting-News-August-2020/#ipp-over-usb-ippusbxd-and-ipp-usb | 13:57 |
| tkamppeter | As last mean I take it. | 13:57 |
| tkamppeter | Is Go itself alreadfy in Main? | 13:58 |
| Wimpress | tkamppeter: Yes | 13:58 |
| Wimpress | Anything else to discuss? | 13:58 |
| luna_ | Can i ask another random question, when kinda does the Translation things for Groovy starts? | 13:58 |
| kenvandine | tkamppeter: i think your use case is the only interesting one for desktop | 13:59 |
| seb128 | Laney, I'm going to card it so we don't forget with a note to test with .1 to start | 13:59 |
| Laney | GREAT! | 14:00 |
| seb128 | :-) | 14:00 |
| Wimpress | All done? | 14:00 |
| tkamppeter | snapd is written in Go? Am I right? | 14:00 |
| kenvandine | yes | 14:00 |
| didrocks999 | (but they are vendoring their deps, so not using that package) | 14:00 |
| seb128 | luna_, it's already started, https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/ | 14:01 |
| tkamppeter | So Snaps will only get into ChromeOS when the guys rewrite snapd in Rust. | 14:01 |
| Laney | EOM | 14:01 |
| seb128 | indeed! | 14:01 |
| Wimpress | #endmeeting | 14:01 |
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| meetingology | Meeting ended Tue Aug 18 14:01:35 2020 UTC. | 14:01 |
| meetingology | Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2020/ubuntu-desktop.2020-08-18-13.30.moin.txt | 14:01 |
| luna_ | seb128: https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/groovy/ Translation page is not available | 14:01 |
| luna_ | Translations for this release series are not available yet. | 14:01 |
| seb128 | thanks | 14:01 |
| hellsworth | thanks | 14:01 |
| Wimpress | Thanks everyone | 14:01 |
| luna_ | seb128: but maybe thats just me | 14:01 |
| seb128 | luna_, wfm but I'm in a translators team, could you ask on #launchpad ? | 14:02 |
| seb128 | maybe they forgot to set a flag or something | 14:02 |
| luna_ | seb128: sure | 14:02 |
| seb128 | thx | 14:02 |
| Laney | tkamppeter: there's some stuff about golang under https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MainInclusionProcess#Reviewing_a_bug | 14:04 |
| tkamppeter | Laney, thanks, I will look into it. | 14:09 |
| GunnarHj | luna_, seb128: Fixed the access to groovy translation. My mistake. :( | 14:21 |
| seb128 | GunnarHj, you did? cjwatson said he was doing it from the launchpad side | 14:22 |
| luna_ | GunnarHj: it happends thanks seb128 and cjwatsson :) | 14:22 |
| GunnarHj | seb128: It's a checkmark at https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/groovy/+translations-admin | 14:22 |
| seb128 | GunnarHj, he updated https://wiki.canonical.com/Launchpad/Translations/UbuntuOpenings to not blocked anymore on ubuntu-translators-coordinator in the futur, we discussed on #launchpad and didn't think that was needed | 14:22 |
| seb128 | GunnarHj, https://wiki.canonical.com/Launchpad/Translations/UbuntuOpenings?action=diff | 14:23 |
| GunnarHj | seb128: I don't have access to those pages. Probably different issues. | 14:24 |
| seb128 | k | 14:25 |
| seb128 | GunnarHj, well, the issue was | 14:25 |
| seb128 | GunnarHj, <cjwatson> seb128: We emailed ubuntu-translation-coordinators and nobody responded. https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-translations-coordinators/msg11556.html | 14:25 |
| seb128 | GunnarHj, so the launchpad team didn't do the next step to enable those waiting for a coordinator to tell them to continue | 14:25 |
| GunnarHj | seb128: Ack | 14:26 |
| ricotz | Laney, did your LO 7.0.1~rc1 armhf rebuild go well? | 14:31 |
| === didrocks999 is now known as didrocks | ||
| * hellsworth is curious about that too | 14:32 | |
| Laney | ongoing | 14:34 |
| Laney | https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/4212/+build/19842601 | 14:35 |
| ricotz | alright | 14:36 |
| ricotz | this looks more like the expected *hang* | 14:36 |
| ricotz | and it will timeout eventually | 14:36 |
| ricotz | Laney, ^ | 14:38 |
| hellsworth | and that was with gcc10 right? | 14:38 |
| ricotz | yes | 14:38 |
| ricotz | 1:7.0.1~rc1-0ubuntu0.20.10.2 is the better option to pick | 14:39 |
| Laney | I dunno | 14:40 |
| Laney | someone's going to need to debug this if it does time out | 14:40 |
| hellsworth | o/ | 14:41 |
| ricotz | failed now | 14:41 |
| hellsworth | seems like maybe we should go with 7.0.0 though because 7.0.1 isn't released for 2 weeks still | 14:41 |
| ricotz | no, please use this release candidate version | 14:42 |
| hellsworth | why? | 14:42 |
| hellsworth | we should use released versions | 14:42 |
| ricotz | this is for groovy which contains all kind of beta/rc releases | 14:43 |
| hellsworth | hmm ok so then putting release candidates in the development series is fine? | 14:43 |
| ricotz | and 7.0.1 already contain a lot of bug fixes compared to 7.0.0 | 14:43 |
| hellsworth | it does indeed | 14:44 |
| ricotz | yes, that is what the devel release is for, imho | 14:44 |
| hellsworth | right ok sure if rc is fine to "release" in groovy then i'm fine with it but would like Laney's take | 14:44 |
| Laney | it's ok, we do it for gnome after all | 14:45 |
| Laney | just as long as the final release has a proper stable release in it | 14:45 |
| hellsworth | okey dokey focusing on 7.0.1 rc it is then | 14:46 |
| ricotz | hellsworth, I have updated the git branch | 14:46 |
| hellsworth | i guess the next thing to do is launch autopkgtests on ricotz's 7.0.1 build with gcc9 | 14:46 |
| hellsworth | ok thanks! | 14:46 |
| ricotz | hellsworth, the gcc9 armhf patch is in another branch | 14:47 |
| ricotz | but to eventually get somewhere is would be better to do for this upload | 14:47 |
| hellsworth | oh yes that is a better plan | 14:47 |
| hellsworth | ok i'll build with the gcc9 patch for a final build in a ppa and run tests | 14:48 |
| ricotz | hellsworth, so directly take the prerelease ppa source tarballs and use the git branch | 14:48 |
| hellsworth | yes i will absolutely use your tarballs :) | 14:48 |
| ricotz | please to repack or redo things | 14:49 |
| ricotz | ok :) | 14:49 |
| ricotz | to/don't | 14:49 |
| ricotz | pushed https://git.launchpad.net/~libreoffice/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/log/?h=ubuntu-groovy-7.0 | 14:49 |
| Laney | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gcc-10/+bug/1891623 | 14:50 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1891623 in gcc-10 (Ubuntu) "Can't build Libreoffice with gcc-10, always ends with a Segmentation Fault" [Undecided,Incomplete] | 14:50 |
| hellsworth | ok cool. all the things in the ubuntu-groovy-7.0 branch | 14:50 |
| hellsworth | Laney: do you know why it was made incomplete? | 14:51 |
| ricotz | Laney, thanks, please add the ICE output | 14:51 |
| Laney | I don't have the output | 14:51 |
| Laney | it didn't crash in the compile | 14:51 |
| ricotz | just the two liner I pasted | 14:52 |
| Laney | someone else can take this over please, it's incomplete because it needs some more information for doko to go on | 14:52 |
| ricotz | /<<PKGBUILDDIR>>/dbaccess/source/core/api/StaticSet.cxx: In member function ‘virtual com::sun::star::uno::Any dbaccess::OStaticSet::getBookmark()’: | 14:52 |
| ricotz | /<<PKGBUILDDIR>>/dbaccess/source/core/api/StaticSet.cxx:47:1: internal compiler error: Segmentation fault | 14:52 |
| hellsworth | i can take over but need guidance | 14:53 |
| hellsworth | i'll paste that rico | 14:53 |
| ricotz | ty | 14:53 |
| Laney | ricotz: lost your Launchpad password? ;) | 14:53 |
| Laney | that's clearly not enough to work on the bug anyway | 14:54 |
| ricotz | hellsworth, let me add this bug reference to the git commit | 14:54 |
| hellsworth | yes good | 14:54 |
| ricotz | Laney, yeah, it is not something to reproduce easily and fast :\ | 14:54 |
| ricotz | björn would likely know his way here | 14:55 |
| Laney | hellsworth: you need to run a build on a machine you control (e.g. the pi or a cloud instance) and then when it fails get a backtrace [if a test crash] or the information requested in /usr/share/doc/gcc-10-base/README.Bugs | 14:56 |
| hellsworth | ok thank you i will go that route | 14:59 |
| Laney | not much fun though, sorry :( | 15:01 |
| hellsworth | right it's the lay of the libreoffice land | 15:01 |
| hellsworth | who would know about how to increase the size of an lxd container? | 15:01 |
| hellsworth | is that a dok_o question ? | 15:01 |
| Laney | unlikely | 15:02 |
| Laney | I think there's a #lxc or #lxcontainers or something where you might find friendly people | 15:02 |
| hellsworth | ah yes great idea thank you | 15:02 |
| hellsworth | i need to fix that to be able to troubleshoot autopkgtests locally | 15:02 |
| hellsworth | but a local build i have not done. so who knows what adventures await me :) | 15:03 |
| Laney | probably is quite disk intensive | 15:10 |
| hellsworth | fine for a pi to sit off to the side and work on | 15:11 |
| KGB-1 | gnome-control-center tags c3ae304 Sebastien Bacher upstream/3.37.90 * Upstream version 3.37.90 * https://deb.li/i2Q4n | 15:40 |
| KGB-1 | gnome-control-center upstream/latest 479beb0 Sebastien Bacher * pushed 81 commits * https://deb.li/XrAj | 15:41 |
| KGB-1 | gnome-control-center pristine-tar 058b61d Sebastien Bacher gnome-control-center_3.37.90.orig.tar.xz.delta gnome-control-center_3.37.90.orig.tar.xz.id * pristine-tar data for gnome-control-center_3.37.90.orig.tar.xz * https://deb.li/trXi | 15:41 |
| hellsworth | ricotz: if it all passes, this could be the releasable build of 7.0.1~rc1: https://launchpad.net/~hellsworth/+archive/ubuntu/libreoffice11/+packages | 16:16 |
| ricotz | hellsworth, thanks! but please don't alter the packaging | 16:20 |
| ricotz | -USE_GIT_TARBALLS=n | 16:21 |
| ricotz | +USE_GIT_TARBALLS=y | 16:21 |
| hellsworth | hmm yeah you're right | 16:22 |
| hellsworth | i'll cancel this build and redo it | 16:23 |
| ricotz | hellsworth, ok | 16:24 |
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| hellsworth | ricotz: https://launchpad.net/~hellsworth/+archive/ubuntu/libreoffice12 | 17:19 |
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| ricotz | hellsworth, sorry, for being pedantic, but doesnt completely match the git branch | 20:11 |
| ricotz | as I mentioned earlier I added the bug reference | 20:11 |
| hellsworth | but we need the changelog to say groovy instead of UNRELEASED | 20:11 |
| ricotz | yes, of course, but you didn't pull the last branch | 20:12 |
| ricotz | just ignore it | 20:13 |
| ricotz | don't force-push though | 20:13 |
| hellsworth | i'm building from https://git.launchpad.net/~libreoffice/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/commit/?h=ubuntu-groovy-7.0&id=f9dcff6e6ed2473ce930fb6035444daa67c66321 | 20:16 |
| hellsworth | just changing the changelog to say groovy | 20:16 |
| hellsworth | my branch is up to date | 20:16 |
| hellsworth | if you would like me to push this change then i can for the sole purpose of having the branch and build exactly the same.. | 20:17 |
| ricotz | hellsworth, I am sorry, I looked at the wrong way :( | 20:18 |
| ricotz | all good, sorry | 20:19 |
| hellsworth | no worries :) | 20:19 |
| hellsworth | you're keeping me on my toes.. | 20:19 |
| ricotz | I am still pumped after doing some sport :) | 20:19 |
| ricotz | yeah, feel free to push the changelog finalization | 20:20 |
| ricotz | hellsworth, regarding your PPAs, you can cancel builds which are obsolete but still running | 20:26 |
| ricotz | https://launchpad.net/~hellsworth/+archive/ubuntu/libreoffice11/+packages | 20:27 |
| hellsworth | yeah thanks i forgot to cancel those.. | 20:27 |
| ricotz | did you make progress with yaru style? | 20:29 |
| ricotz | I guess making it an extra source package might be easier to maintain and faster to update | 20:30 |
| hellsworth | well the other libreoffice themes are in their own packages too, like libreoffice-style-elementary | 21:16 |
| ricotz | hellsworth, are there plan to upstream it, which would make things easier | 21:51 |
| ricotz | I assume it is still possible for LO 7.1 | 21:51 |
| ricotz | and yeah, the style have their own *binary* package, but are part of the libreoffice *source* package | 21:55 |
| ricotz | what I meant is a separate *source* package | 21:56 |
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