| cpaelzer | o/ | 14:31 |
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| cpaelzer | #startmeeting Weekly Main Inclusion Requests status | 14:31 |
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| didrocks999 | hey | 14:31 |
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| cpaelzer | jamespage: didrocks999: ddstreet: sarnold: doko (is away) - ping to start | 14:31 |
| cpaelzer | #topic Review of previous action items | 14:32 |
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| cpaelzer | Old ACTION - cpaelzer to ask Steve how to fastpath font packages without subscriptions | 14:32 |
| cpaelzer | I have done that and he agrees with Doko that at least a subscriber must be present - but not the full process | 14:32 |
| cpaelzer | I ammended our entry at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MainInclusionProcess?action=show&redirect=MIRTeam#Font_Packages to reflect that | 14:32 |
| cpaelzer | TL;DR - font packages with pure data need no MIR process, but a subscriber then an AA can promote | 14:32 |
| didrocks | (as I was away: was there any argument against the last font package, it was just waiting on the subscription IIRC)? | 14:33 |
| cpaelzer | no argument against it | 14:33 |
| cpaelzer | just waited on the subscription | 14:33 |
| cpaelzer | but we used the chance to formalize this aspect | 14:33 |
| didrocks | ack | 14:33 |
| cpaelzer | another action of last week(s) was around khronos-opencl-clhpp | 14:33 |
| cpaelzer | seb_128 could you carry https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/khronos-opencl-clhpp/+bug/1636728 to the Desktop Team meeting then to sort out who should subsceribe now | 14:33 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1636728 in khronos-opencl-clhpp (Ubuntu) "[MIR] khronos-opencl-clhpp" [Undecided,Fix released] | 14:33 |
| cpaelzer | seb_128 agreed (we said and have seen the same last week) - but since the old owner was ubuntu-x it would be Dekstop to punt it over to kernel | 14:33 |
| cpaelzer | seb was so kind to help last week, this week didrocks = seb128 :-) | 14:33 |
| cpaelzer | And welcome back :-) | 14:33 |
| cpaelzer | So didrocks, did this reach the team and will it be handled? | 14:33 |
| didrocks | I did ping seb128 before going on holidays, he says he will track it because he was unsure the desktop team should be the subscriber | 14:34 |
| cpaelzer | oh yeah | 14:34 |
| cpaelzer | we agreed to that | 14:34 |
| cpaelzer | we did that, we did again with seb and so on | 14:34 |
| cpaelzer | but someone has to do the nudging of the kernel team to take it (as they own the package depending on it) | 14:35 |
| didrocks | so, it’s all handled it seems, no? I don’t see it on mismatch | 14:35 |
| cpaelzer | oh did it vanish | 14:35 |
| cpaelzer | well let's do mismatches | 14:35 |
| didrocks | looks like it :) | 14:35 |
| cpaelzer | then we will see | 14:35 |
| didrocks | yeah | 14:35 |
| cpaelzer | until then the rest will have woken up - re-ping jamespage: ddstreet: sarnold: | 14:36 |
| cpaelzer | #topic current component mismatches | 14:36 |
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| cpaelzer | #link https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches-proposed.svg | 14:36 |
| cpaelzer | #link https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches.svg | 14:36 |
| sarnold | good morning | 14:36 |
| cpaelzer | didrocks: no it still is in mismatches-propsoed | 14:36 |
| cpaelzer | there are still plenty of things we know to be on jamespage shoulders to clarify for the openstack context | 14:37 |
| cpaelzer | and there is a golang explosion as well | 14:37 |
| didrocks | I don’t see it :/ | 14:37 |
| cpaelzer | https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches-proposed.svg | 14:37 |
| cpaelzer | to the right of cups and left of lintian | 14:37 |
| didrocks | it’s khronos-opencl-clhpp here between cups and lintian | 14:38 |
| cpaelzer | didrocks: which is the package I asked the desktop team to punt to the kernel | 14:39 |
| didrocks | cpaelzer: ah, sorry I was still on the font package from 3 weeks ago | 14:39 |
| cpaelzer | :-) | 14:39 |
| cpaelzer | no that one is done | 14:39 |
| didrocks | so, we were not talking about the same thing | 14:39 |
| didrocks | sorry :) | 14:39 |
| cpaelzer | np | 14:39 |
| cpaelzer | the de-confusion is what the meegin is for | 14:39 |
| didrocks | hehe, right | 14:39 |
| cpaelzer | take a look at the MIR that is linked and help to resolve it beofre next week if that is ok for you | 14:39 |
| didrocks | will do | 14:40 |
| didrocks | do we know about the golang-google-api, what is pulling it? | 14:40 |
| didrocks | (ack, the other one was the bug you subbed me but I didn’t manage to catch that back up still) | 14:40 |
| cpaelzer | u-boot, lintian was for foundations, paramiko/masakari were on james page | 14:40 |
| cpaelzer | what is left are the golang things for google* | 14:41 |
| cpaelzer | didrocks: it seems the source is gce-compute-image-packages | 14:41 |
| didrocks | that would make sense | 14:42 |
| cpaelzer | this was also mentione din the +1 reports | 14:43 |
| cpaelzer | for archive cleanup | 14:43 |
| cpaelzer | I know that at least rbalint and mwhudson touched bits of it on +1 duty | 14:43 |
| cpaelzer | at least one will be in our list of new bugs | 14:43 |
| cpaelzer | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/google-guest-agent/+bug/1891929 | 14:43 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1891929 in google-guest-agent (Ubuntu) "[MIR] google-guest-agent" [Undecided,New] | 14:43 |
| cpaelzer | we will catch that in the next sub-topic | 14:44 |
| didrocks | I’m happy to have a look at that one ^ | 14:44 |
| cpaelzer | that would be perfect | 14:44 |
| cpaelzer | we have assigned a bunch last weeks and everyone was pretty busy getting those donw | 14:44 |
| cpaelzer | didrocks: could you tkae an extra look if that is related (or not) to the golang-google-api that shows up | 14:45 |
| didrocks | cpaelzer: sure | 14:45 |
| cpaelzer | thanks | 14:45 |
| didrocks | if we need it, then, we’ll have a tree of golang packages to look at :p | 14:45 |
| cpaelzer | next week we are nearing feature freeze there we need to bring those up as bugs | 14:46 |
| didrocks | yeah | 14:46 |
| cpaelzer | we might need to open bugs and assign to teams to decide if they want to own or kill the dependency | 14:46 |
| cpaelzer | so understanding the source of the deps would be awesome | 14:46 |
| didrocks | I’ll have a look, I have some spare time for that this week | 14:46 |
| cpaelzer | ok, at least no other issue in mismatches than those | 14:46 |
| cpaelzer | #topic New MIRs | 14:46 |
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| cpaelzer | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/?field.searchtext=&orderby=-date_last_updated&field.status%3Alist=NEW&assignee_option=none&field.assignee=&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir | 14:46 |
| cpaelzer | well we just assigned https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/google-guest-agent/+bug/1891929 | 14:47 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1891929 in google-guest-agent (Ubuntu) "[MIR] google-guest-agent" [Undecided,New] | 14:47 |
| cpaelzer | I'll do so on the bug | 14:47 |
| cpaelzer | all the oem-* things are special cased | 14:47 |
| didrocks | I thought no MIR were required? | 14:48 |
| cpaelzer | next normal one is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sane-airscan/+bug/1891682 | 14:48 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1891682 in sane-airscan (Ubuntu) "[MIR] sane-airscan" [High,New] | 14:48 |
| cpaelzer | didrocks: the OEM things need a bug to document and the AAs to check a defined set of constraints | 14:48 |
| cpaelzer | no MIR process on these | 14:48 |
| didrocks | ack | 14:48 |
| cpaelzer | do you think you could also tkae on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sane-airscan/+bug/1891682 didrocks? | 14:48 |
| didrocks | will be a busy MIR week, but let’s do that before FF :) | 14:49 |
| cpaelzer | thanks | 14:49 |
| cpaelzer | #topic Incomplete bugs / questions | 14:49 |
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| cpaelzer | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/?field.searchtext=&orderby=-date_last_updated&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir | 14:49 |
| cpaelzer | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tlp/+bug/1888656 | 14:50 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1888656 in OEM Priority Project "[MIR] tlp" [Critical,Triaged] | 14:50 |
| cpaelzer | I handled this one | 14:50 |
| cpaelzer | all it needs is a team subscriber | 14:50 |
| cpaelzer | This is filed by xnox for the OEM team | 14:50 |
| cpaelzer | so I'm unsure if I need to nudge foundations or Desktop | 14:50 |
| cpaelzer | but other than the subscription the case is ready | 14:50 |
| cpaelzer | didrocks: do you happen to know if that would be desktop? | 14:51 |
| didrocks | IIRC seb128 was not really in favor of it being desktopish | 14:51 |
| didrocks | as it’s a foundation request | 14:51 |
| cpaelzer | I don't mind either way, but someone has to step up to own it before promotion | 14:51 |
| didrocks | agreed | 14:51 |
| cpaelzer | I made it clear enough on the bug | 14:51 |
| cpaelzer | so no action here | 14:51 |
| cpaelzer | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ipp-usb/+bug/1891157 | 14:51 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1891157 in golang-github-openprinting-goipp (Ubuntu) "[MIR] ipp-usb" [High,Incomplete] | 14:52 |
| didrocks | yeah, you already made it clear on the bug | 14:52 |
| cpaelzer | I did that one as well (the ipp-usb portion) | 14:52 |
| didrocks | so, on that one, Till was looking at well for a subcriber other than him (on the go binding) :) | 14:52 |
| cpaelzer | I identified additional dpeendencies and wanted an ack that Desktop (this time the requester) really wants to own all three packages | 14:52 |
| didrocks | I would say, same, let him sort it out | 14:52 |
| cpaelzer | yeah we need the team | 14:52 |
| cpaelzer | as I satetd on the bug | 14:53 |
| cpaelzer | please get a full Team to subscribe to the package | 14:53 |
| didrocks | yep | 14:53 |
| cpaelzer | The printing team (https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-printing) is the perfect | 14:53 |
| cpaelzer | team to actually handle things here and is subscribed already (thanks), but | 14:53 |
| cpaelzer | you'd (in addition) need a full team to subscribe - ubuntu-desktop in this | 14:53 |
| cpaelzer | case I guess as fallback for e.g. vacations or any other complex issue you | 14:53 |
| cpaelzer | can't deal with alone. | 14:53 |
| cpaelzer | until then - incomplete | 14:53 |
| didrocks | sounds perfect to me :) | 14:53 |
| cpaelzer | and for the chance that it will be dropped I refuse to sit down for many hours reviewing the others and forcing the security Team to do the same | 14:53 |
| cpaelzer | finally https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libonig/+bug/1889248 I handled two tasks in there | 14:53 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1889248 in mdevctl (Ubuntu) "[MIR] mdevctl, jq, libonig" [Undecided,New] | 14:53 |
| cpaelzer | one is left open and doko assigned, but he is off for a while | 14:54 |
| cpaelzer | so it will wait | 14:54 |
| cpaelzer | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/usbguard/+bug/1816548 also had some activity | 14:54 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1816548 in usbguard (Ubuntu) "[MIR] usbguard" [Undecided,Incomplete] | 14:54 |
| cpaelzer | It seems everyone would like to have it, but no one wants to own it | 14:54 |
| cpaelzer | I guess I made that clear on the bug - no need to action here | 14:54 |
| cpaelzer | that is it with the list | 14:54 |
| didrocks | just read your comment, it’s clear to me | 14:55 |
| cpaelzer | you see I was reviewing a lot this week :-) | 14:55 |
| cpaelzer | #topic Any other business? | 14:55 |
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| didrocks | yeah, you were quite busy as I see :) | 14:55 |
| cpaelzer | We are getting closer to FF and we can see the expected spike of MIRs | 14:55 |
| cpaelzer | I might slightly complain that ddstreet and sarnold haven't said a word but most likely they are on PTO as well | 14:55 |
| cpaelzer | I'm out of topics for today | 14:56 |
| didrocks | those people still connected on IRC during holidays… :) | 14:56 |
| sarnold | I've said "good morning" :) | 14:56 |
| cpaelzer | hehe | 14:56 |
| cpaelzer | and I'm guilty of reading over it without my brain enabled | 14:56 |
| cpaelzer | hi sarnold o/ | 14:56 |
| cpaelzer | I'm looking forward to insihgt on the golang-* chaos in mismatches next week | 14:56 |
| sarnold | hey cpaelzer :) | 14:56 |
| didrocks | hey sarnold, I missed your good morning as well :) | 14:56 |
| didrocks | yeah | 14:57 |
| cpaelzer | sarnold: did you get to the review we assigned two weeks ago? | 14:57 |
| sarnold | cpaelzer: no :( I'm sorry | 14:57 |
| sarnold | hey didrocks :) | 14:57 |
| cpaelzer | please feel stared on by whoever requested it to get to it :-) | 14:57 |
| cpaelzer | but we are not yet on that much delay that we need to panic on it | 14:57 |
| cpaelzer | sarnold: for the log - do you have a lik which one that was? | 14:58 |
| cpaelzer | link | 14:58 |
| didrocks | door ringing brb | 14:58 |
| didrocks | otherwise, see you next week! | 14:58 |
| sarnold | cpaelzer: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libinih/+bug/1883890 | 14:58 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1883890 in libinih (Ubuntu) "[MIR] libinih" [Undecided,New] | 14:58 |
| cpaelzer | thanks sarnold | 14:58 |
| xnox | cpaelzer: re:tlp => yeah we were not sure, if it would fit into any existing subscriber teams. Or if we need a new one something like "oem" "desktop-oem" "commercial-engineering" or some such. | 14:58 |
| xnox | and add it properly into the team reports etc. | 14:59 |
| cpaelzer | xnox: ok, thanks for the info - so it seems the discussion is ongoing and once resolved someone will own it | 14:59 |
| cpaelzer | once that happens it can be promoted to main then | 14:59 |
| xnox | because for example if all of our certified laptops stop using tlp, we'd want to drop it from main, and I don't know if foundations has visibility on that per se. | 14:59 |
| xnox | cpaelzer: ack. | 14:59 |
| cpaelzer | agreed xnox | 14:59 |
| cpaelzer | so that closes our "misc" section | 15:00 |
| cpaelzer | end of the meeting coming unless there is anything you want to bring up ... | 15:00 |
| * xnox missreads libinih as libnih, and i'm like "libnih should be dead by now" | 15:00 | |
| sarnold | xnox: heh, I did the same so many times already.. | 15:00 |
| cpaelzer | me as well | 15:00 |
| cpaelzer | ok, thanks everyone ! | 15:00 |
| cpaelzer | until next week with many reviewed MIR bugs then | 15:00 |
| xnox | MIR review please rename package due to PTSD | 15:00 |
| cpaelzer | #endmeeting | 15:01 |
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| meetingology | Meeting ended Tue Aug 18 15:01:09 2020 UTC. | 15:01 |
| meetingology | Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2020/ubuntu-meeting.2020-08-18-14.31.moin.txt | 15:01 |
| sarnold | thanks cpaelzer and didrocks :) | 15:01 |
| sarnold | didrocks: btw your website hasn't been online the last few days, someone was trying to get some zsys docs -- does your website go away when you log off? :) | 15:01 |
| didrocks | sarnold: ahah, I moved to a new house | 15:15 |
| didrocks | sarnold: this was my "holidays" | 15:15 |
| didrocks | as I’m self-hosted… | 15:15 |
| didrocks | I’m currently on 4G, so no fixed IP, I moved it this morning to canonistack in between and it should be back on line | 15:15 |
| sarnold | didrocks: aha! :) congratulations ;) | 15:18 |
| didrocks | thx :) | 15:25 |
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