[14:31] <cpaelzer> o/
[14:31] <cpaelzer> #startmeeting Weekly Main Inclusion Requests status
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[14:31] <didrocks999> hey
[14:31] <cpaelzer> jamespage: didrocks999: ddstreet: sarnold: doko (is away) - ping to start
[14:32] <cpaelzer> #topic Review of previous action items
[14:32] <cpaelzer> Old ACTION - cpaelzer to ask Steve how to fastpath font packages without subscriptions
[14:32] <cpaelzer> I have done that and he agrees with Doko that at least a subscriber must be present - but not the full process
[14:32] <cpaelzer> I ammended our entry at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MainInclusionProcess?action=show&redirect=MIRTeam#Font_Packages to reflect that
[14:32] <cpaelzer> TL;DR - font packages with pure data need no MIR process, but a subscriber then an AA can promote
[14:33] <didrocks> (as I was away: was there any argument against the last font package, it was just waiting on the subscription IIRC)?
[14:33] <cpaelzer> no argument against it
[14:33] <cpaelzer> just waited on the subscription
[14:33] <cpaelzer> but we used the chance to formalize this aspect
[14:33] <didrocks> ack
[14:33] <cpaelzer> another action of last week(s) was around khronos-opencl-clhpp
[14:33] <cpaelzer> seb_128 could you carry https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/khronos-opencl-clhpp/+bug/1636728 to the Desktop Team meeting then to sort out who should subsceribe now
[14:33] <cpaelzer> seb_128 agreed (we said and have seen the same last week) - but since the old owner was ubuntu-x it would be Dekstop to punt it over to kernel
[14:33] <cpaelzer> seb was so kind to help last week, this week didrocks = seb128 :-)
[14:33] <cpaelzer> And welcome back :-)
[14:33] <cpaelzer> So didrocks, did this reach the team and will it be handled?
[14:34] <didrocks> I did ping seb128 before going on holidays, he says he will track it because he was unsure the desktop team should be the subscriber
[14:34] <cpaelzer> oh yeah
[14:34] <cpaelzer> we agreed to that
[14:34] <cpaelzer> we did that, we did again with seb and so on
[14:35] <cpaelzer> but someone has to do the nudging of the kernel team to take it (as they own the package depending on it)
[14:35] <didrocks> so, it’s all handled it seems, no? I don’t see it on mismatch
[14:35] <cpaelzer> oh did it vanish
[14:35] <cpaelzer> well let's do mismatches
[14:35] <didrocks> looks like it :)
[14:35] <cpaelzer> then we will see
[14:35] <didrocks> yeah
[14:36] <cpaelzer> until then the rest will have woken up - re-ping jamespage: ddstreet: sarnold:
[14:36] <cpaelzer> #topic current component mismatches
[14:36] <cpaelzer> #link https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches-proposed.svg
[14:36] <cpaelzer> #link https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches.svg
[14:36] <sarnold> good morning
[14:36] <cpaelzer> didrocks: no it still is in mismatches-propsoed
[14:37] <cpaelzer> there are still plenty of things we know to be on jamespage shoulders to clarify for the openstack context
[14:37] <cpaelzer> and there is a golang explosion as well
[14:37] <didrocks> I don’t see it :/
[14:37] <cpaelzer> https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches-proposed.svg
[14:37] <cpaelzer> to the right of cups and left of lintian
[14:38] <didrocks> it’s khronos-opencl-clhpp here between cups and lintian
[14:39] <cpaelzer> didrocks: which is the package I asked the desktop team to punt to the kernel
[14:39] <didrocks> cpaelzer: ah, sorry I was still on the font package from 3 weeks ago
[14:39] <cpaelzer> :-)
[14:39] <cpaelzer> no that one is done
[14:39] <didrocks> so, we were not talking about the same thing
[14:39] <didrocks> sorry :)
[14:39] <cpaelzer> np
[14:39] <cpaelzer> the de-confusion is what the meegin is for
[14:39] <didrocks> hehe, right
[14:39] <cpaelzer> take a look at the MIR that is linked and help to resolve it beofre next week if that is ok for you
[14:40] <didrocks> will do
[14:40] <didrocks> do we know about the golang-google-api, what is pulling it?
[14:40] <didrocks> (ack, the other one was the bug you subbed me but I didn’t manage to catch that back up still)
[14:40] <cpaelzer> u-boot, lintian was for foundations,  paramiko/masakari  were on james page
[14:41] <cpaelzer> what is left are the golang things for google*
[14:41] <cpaelzer> didrocks: it seems the source is gce-compute-image-packages
[14:42] <didrocks> that would make sense
[14:43] <cpaelzer> this was also mentione din the +1 reports
[14:43] <cpaelzer> for archive cleanup
[14:43] <cpaelzer> I know that at least rbalint and mwhudson touched bits of it on +1 duty
[14:43] <cpaelzer> at least one will be in our list of new bugs
[14:43] <cpaelzer> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/google-guest-agent/+bug/1891929
[14:44] <cpaelzer> we will catch that in the next sub-topic
[14:44] <didrocks> I’m happy to have a look at that one ^
[14:44] <cpaelzer> that would be perfect
[14:44] <cpaelzer> we have assigned a bunch last weeks and everyone was pretty busy getting those donw
[14:45] <cpaelzer> didrocks: could you tkae an extra look if that is related (or not) to the golang-google-api that shows up
[14:45] <didrocks> cpaelzer: sure
[14:45] <cpaelzer> thanks
[14:45] <didrocks> if we need it, then, we’ll have a tree of golang packages to look at :p
[14:46] <cpaelzer> next week we are nearing feature freeze there we need to bring those up as bugs
[14:46] <didrocks> yeah
[14:46] <cpaelzer> we might need to open bugs and assign to teams to decide if they want to own or kill the dependency
[14:46] <cpaelzer> so understanding the source of the deps would be awesome
[14:46] <didrocks> I’ll have a look, I have some spare time for that this week
[14:46] <cpaelzer> ok, at least no other issue in mismatches than those
[14:46] <cpaelzer> #topic New MIRs
[14:46] <cpaelzer> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/?field.searchtext=&orderby=-date_last_updated&field.status%3Alist=NEW&assignee_option=none&field.assignee=&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir
[14:47] <cpaelzer> well we just assigned https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/google-guest-agent/+bug/1891929
[14:47] <cpaelzer> I'll do so on the bug
[14:47] <cpaelzer> all the oem-* things are special cased
[14:48] <didrocks> I thought no MIR were required?
[14:48] <cpaelzer> next normal one is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sane-airscan/+bug/1891682
[14:48] <cpaelzer> didrocks: the OEM things need a bug to document and the AAs to check a defined set of constraints
[14:48] <cpaelzer> no MIR process on these
[14:48] <didrocks> ack
[14:48] <cpaelzer> do you think you could also tkae on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sane-airscan/+bug/1891682 didrocks?
[14:49] <didrocks> will be a busy MIR week, but let’s do that before FF :)
[14:49] <cpaelzer> thanks
[14:49] <cpaelzer> #topic Incomplete bugs / questions
[14:49] <cpaelzer> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/?field.searchtext=&orderby=-date_last_updated&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir
[14:50] <cpaelzer> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tlp/+bug/1888656
[14:50] <cpaelzer> I handled this one
[14:50] <cpaelzer> all it needs is a team subscriber
[14:50] <cpaelzer> This is filed by xnox for the OEM team
[14:50] <cpaelzer> so I'm unsure if I need to nudge foundations or Desktop
[14:50] <cpaelzer> but other than the subscription the case is ready
[14:51] <cpaelzer> didrocks: do you happen to know if that would be desktop?
[14:51] <didrocks> IIRC seb128 was not really in favor of it being desktopish
[14:51] <didrocks> as it’s a foundation request
[14:51] <cpaelzer> I don't mind either way, but someone has to step up to own it before promotion
[14:51] <didrocks> agreed
[14:51] <cpaelzer> I made it clear enough on the bug
[14:51] <cpaelzer> so no action here
[14:51] <cpaelzer> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ipp-usb/+bug/1891157
[14:52] <didrocks> yeah, you already made it clear on the bug
[14:52] <cpaelzer> I did that one as well (the ipp-usb portion)
[14:52] <didrocks> so, on that one, Till was looking at well for a subcriber other than him (on the go binding) :)
[14:52] <cpaelzer> I identified additional dpeendencies and wanted an ack that Desktop (this time the requester) really wants to own all three packages
[14:52] <didrocks> I would say, same, let him sort it out
[14:52] <cpaelzer> yeah we need the team
[14:53] <cpaelzer> as I satetd on the bug
[14:53] <cpaelzer> please get a full Team to subscribe to the package
[14:53] <didrocks> yep
[14:53] <cpaelzer>   The printing team (https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-printing) is the perfect
[14:53] <cpaelzer>   team to actually handle things here and is subscribed already (thanks), but
[14:53] <cpaelzer>   you'd (in addition) need a full team to subscribe - ubuntu-desktop in this
[14:53] <cpaelzer>   case I guess as fallback for e.g. vacations or any other complex issue you
[14:53] <cpaelzer>   can't deal with alone.
[14:53] <cpaelzer> until then  - incomplete
[14:53] <didrocks> sounds perfect to me :)
[14:53] <cpaelzer> and for the chance that it will be dropped I refuse to sit down for many hours reviewing the others and forcing the security Team to do the same
[14:53] <cpaelzer> finally https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libonig/+bug/1889248 I handled two tasks in there
[14:54] <cpaelzer> one is left open and doko assigned, but he is off for a while
[14:54] <cpaelzer> so it will wait
[14:54] <cpaelzer> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/usbguard/+bug/1816548 also had some activity
[14:54] <cpaelzer> It seems everyone would like to have it, but no one wants to own it
[14:54] <cpaelzer> I guess I made that clear on the bug - no need to action here
[14:54] <cpaelzer> that is it with the list
[14:55] <didrocks> just read your comment, it’s clear to me
[14:55] <cpaelzer> you see I was reviewing a lot this week :-)
[14:55] <cpaelzer> #topic Any other business?
[14:55] <didrocks> yeah, you were quite busy as I see :)
[14:55] <cpaelzer> We are getting closer to FF and we can see the expected spike of MIRs
[14:55] <cpaelzer> I might slightly complain that ddstreet and sarnold haven't said a word but most likely they are on PTO as well
[14:56] <cpaelzer> I'm out of topics for today
[14:56] <didrocks> those people still connected on IRC during holidays… :)
[14:56] <sarnold> I've said "good morning" :)
[14:56] <cpaelzer> hehe
[14:56] <cpaelzer> and I'm guilty of reading over it without my brain enabled
[14:56] <cpaelzer> hi sarnold o/
[14:56] <cpaelzer> I'm looking forward to insihgt on the golang-* chaos in mismatches next week
[14:56] <sarnold> hey cpaelzer :)
[14:56] <didrocks> hey sarnold, I missed your good morning as well :)
[14:57] <didrocks> yeah
[14:57] <cpaelzer> sarnold: did you get to the review we assigned two weeks ago?
[14:57] <sarnold> cpaelzer: no :( I'm sorry
[14:57] <sarnold> hey didrocks :)
[14:57] <cpaelzer> please feel stared on by whoever requested it to get to it :-)
[14:57] <cpaelzer> but we are not yet on that much delay that we need to panic on it
[14:58] <cpaelzer> sarnold: for the log - do you have a lik which one that was?
[14:58] <cpaelzer> link
[14:58] <didrocks> door ringing brb
[14:58] <didrocks> otherwise, see you next week!
[14:58] <sarnold> cpaelzer: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libinih/+bug/1883890
[14:58] <cpaelzer> thanks sarnold
[14:58] <xnox> cpaelzer:  re:tlp => yeah we were not sure, if it would fit into any existing subscriber teams. Or if we need a new one something like "oem" "desktop-oem" "commercial-engineering" or some such.
[14:59] <xnox> and add it properly into the team reports etc.
[14:59] <cpaelzer> xnox: ok, thanks for the info - so it seems the discussion is ongoing and once resolved someone will own it
[14:59] <cpaelzer> once that happens it can be promoted to main then
[14:59] <xnox> because for example if all of our certified laptops stop using tlp, we'd want to drop it from main, and I don't know if foundations has visibility on that per se.
[14:59] <xnox> cpaelzer:  ack.
[14:59] <cpaelzer> agreed xnox
[15:00] <cpaelzer> so that closes our "misc" section
[15:00] <cpaelzer> end of the meeting coming unless there is anything you want to bring up ...
[15:00]  * xnox missreads libinih as libnih, and i'm like "libnih should be dead by now"
[15:00] <sarnold> xnox: heh, I did the same so many times already..
[15:00] <cpaelzer> me as well
[15:00] <cpaelzer> ok, thanks everyone !
[15:00] <cpaelzer> until next week with many reviewed MIR bugs then
[15:00] <xnox> MIR review please rename package due to PTSD
[15:01] <cpaelzer> #endmeeting
[15:01] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Aug 18 15:01:09 2020 UTC.
[15:01] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2020/ubuntu-meeting.2020-08-18-14.31.moin.txt
[15:01] <sarnold> thanks cpaelzer and didrocks :)
[15:01] <sarnold> didrocks: btw your website hasn't been online the last few days, someone was trying to get some zsys docs -- does your website go away when you log off? :)
[15:15] <didrocks> sarnold: ahah, I moved to a new house
[15:15] <didrocks> sarnold: this was my "holidays"
[15:15] <didrocks> as I’m self-hosted…
[15:15] <didrocks> I’m currently on 4G, so no fixed IP, I moved it this morning to canonistack in between and it should be back on line
[15:18] <sarnold> didrocks: aha! :) congratulations ;)
[15:25] <didrocks> thx :)