| pieq | Morning! | 01:43 |
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| callmepk | morning pieq | 01:46 |
| duflu | Oops, morning pieq and callmepk | 03:18 |
| callmepk | morning duflu | 03:18 |
| duflu | and jamesh | 03:18 |
| callmepk | .... and morning jamesh | 03:18 |
| jamesh | hi duflu, callmepk | 03:18 |
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| seb128 | goood morning desktopers | 06:08 |
| callmepk | morning seb128 | 06:17 |
| jibel | Good morning folks | 06:22 |
| duflu | Morning jibel | 06:25 |
| jibel | hi duflu | 06:33 |
| didrocks | good morning | 06:40 |
| jibel | salut didrocks | 06:42 |
| duflu | Hi didrocks | 06:44 |
| didrocks | salut jibel, hey duflu | 06:45 |
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| marcustomlinson | morning desktoppers | 07:51 |
| duflu | Morning marcustomlinson | 07:58 |
| didrocks999 | hey marcustomlinson | 08:03 |
| === didrocks999 is now known as didrocks | ||
| Laney | moin | 08:04 |
| marcustomlinson | hey duflu didrocks and Laney | 08:05 |
| duflu | Morning Laney | 08:07 |
| didrocks | hey Laney | 08:11 |
| Laney | hey marcustomlinson duflu didrocks, how is it going? | 08:13 |
| marcustomlinson | daaaaaaandy | 08:13 |
| marcustomlinson | how are you Laney? | 08:13 |
| didrocks | Laney: moderately complicated, and you? | 08:15 |
| Laney | I'm alright, I have Yorkshire Biscuit Tea so all is good | 08:17 |
| Laney | didrocks: house thing or work thing? | 08:17 |
| duflu | Laney, going well now. Lost electricity for 2 hours today though | 08:22 |
| didrocks | Laney: house ones | 08:22 |
| Laney | duflu: I bet that still feels mildly exciting | 08:26 |
| Laney | In my memories it was fairly frequent when I was a kid | 08:26 |
| duflu | Laney, I was happy to get some cleaning done before the evening, so yes? | 08:27 |
| Laney | cleaning... | 08:28 |
| Laney | ok, very mild then ... | 08:28 |
| duflu | Makes the evening something better to look forward to now | 08:30 |
| duflu | Oh mutter 3.36.4 in focal now. Get excited | 09:25 |
| Laney | seb128: have you looked into the libhandy / libhandy-1 situation by any chance? | 09:46 |
| Laney | it looks like not everything is ported | 09:46 |
| seb128 | Laney, I did, and I've been ranting a bit about it on gitlab (https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-control-center/-/merge_requests/782#note_894317) and #gnome-hackers | 09:47 |
| Laney | also moin | 09:47 |
| Laney | ah good | 09:47 |
| seb128 | I ended up uploaded gnome-control-center using libhandy1 for $reasons | 09:47 |
| seb128 | unsure what to do, I'm unsure gnome-calendar is going to get ported | 09:47 |
| seb128 | g-c-c has libhandy has a submodul but they remove the static build support so g-c-c does install libhandy as a shared lib now... | 09:48 |
| seb128 | (if you build without the system lib) | 09:48 |
| Laney | mmm | 09:48 |
| seb128 | the libs are co-installable though | 09:48 |
| Laney | like with a different name or in a private location or something? | 09:48 |
| seb128 | so technically we could ship with 0 and 1 this cycle | 09:48 |
| Laney | but I noticed that *some* things were ported | 09:48 |
| Laney | so you probably get the problem with some other app later anyway | 09:49 |
| seb128 | yes, gnome-control-center epiphany-browser | 09:49 |
| Laney | it's probably easiest to just promote -1 and have both for this cycle ... | 09:49 |
| seb128 | no, g-c-c just includes libhandy as as submodule and build it the standard way, so you end up having a shared libhandy build from the gcc copy installed to the standard location | 09:49 |
| Laney | didrocks: ^- any MIR team thoughts? | 09:50 |
| seb128 | right, that was my conclusion | 09:50 |
| didrocks | yeah, let’s promote -1 and keep both | 09:51 |
| seb128 | thanks | 09:51 |
| didrocks | path of least resistance | 09:51 |
| seb128 | it sucks a bit, at least I complained about it upstream | 09:51 |
| didrocks | yeah, it’s annoying that they don’t all align | 09:51 |
| didrocks | I wonder how fedora is handling it, as they don’t have soname in the package name | 09:51 |
| seb128 | well, it's just that they really have a strict release process | 09:51 |
| seb128 | so they do half transitions started by random people | 09:52 |
| seb128 | and started after feature freeze... | 09:52 |
| seb128 | * | 09:52 |
| Laney | if you have energy I think the release team might be a good team to talk to about this | 09:52 |
| Laney | (will promote -1, thanks didrocks) | 09:53 |
| Laney | done | 09:54 |
| didrocks | (yw) | 09:55 |
| Laney | they have an IRC channel I think, #release-team ? | 09:55 |
| seb128 | right | 09:57 |
| seb128 | maybe a better topic for discourse though, easier to have a real argumeneted discussion | 09:57 |
| seb128 | IRC tends to turn into an argument with whoever is online at the time | 09:57 |
| Laney | fair | 10:00 |
| seb128 | Laney, btw did you get a reply on #nm about your without gateway config issue? | 10:20 |
| Laney | that route thing? | 10:21 |
| Laney | yeah it works | 10:21 |
| seb128 | was it in context of a vpn? | 10:23 |
| Laney | nope | 10:23 |
| seb128 | I know about https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-control-center/-/issues/138 and it's one that I see mentioned every now and then | 10:23 |
| Laney | I have static networking on my desktop, it's kind of a weird setup | 10:23 |
| Laney | but I must have forgotten something I did because it all broke when Irebooted after upgrading to groovy /o\ | 10:24 |
| Laney | trying to keep it all in NM and not anywhere else | 10:24 |
| seb128 | ah ok | 10:24 |
| Laney | I can't use g-c-c for this though | 10:24 |
| Laney | it doesn't handle bridge interfaces | 10:24 |
| Laney | so I have to use nm-connection-editor which works properly | 10:24 |
| seb128 | right | 10:25 |
| Laney | hmm | 10:25 |
| Laney | I guess it should detect this and hide the panel or something | 10:25 |
| Laney | because if I do anything in there it'll probably break it all | 10:26 |
| seb128 | if it doesn't handle the existing config it should probably tell that yeah | 10:26 |
| KGB-0 | mozjs pristine-tar c8bc92c Marco Trevisan (Treviño) mozjs78_78.1.0.orig.tar.xz.delta mozjs78_78.1.0.orig.tar.xz.id * pristine-tar data for mozjs78_78.1.0.orig.tar.xz * https://deb.li/i3NMs | 10:28 |
| marcustomlinson | haha didrocks | 13:17 |
| didrocks3 | yeah, trying to change antenna to get better stability | 13:22 |
| didrocks3 | incrementing all the way down :p | 13:22 |
| * Laney offers didrocks3 a shell account :> | 14:05 | |
| hellsworth | good morning desktopers | 14:15 |
| marcustomlinson | hey hellsworth | 14:15 |
| hellsworth | hiya | 14:16 |
| hellsworth | hey marcustomlinson those autopkgtests that you started for me yesterday were on a pkg in hellsworth/libreoffice12 ppa. do you know why i can't see any results here? https://objectstorage.prodstack4-5.canonical.com/v1/AUTH_77e2ada1e7a84929a74ba3b87153c0ac/autopkgtest-focal-hellsworth-libreoffice12/ | 14:18 |
| hellsworth | oh with a final ?format=plain :) | 14:19 |
| hellsworth | sorry that was confusing. let me rephrase. i can't see any results here https://objectstorage.prodstack4-5.canonical.com/v1/AUTH_77e2ada1e7a84929a74ba3b87153c0ac/autopkgtest-focal-hellsworth-libreoffice12/?format=plain and no clue why | 14:19 |
| marcustomlinson | hellsworth: I'm not sure I can see your results. I get "Unauthorized" | 14:20 |
| hellsworth | yeah me too | 14:20 |
| hellsworth | hmm ok | 14:20 |
| marcustomlinson | oh | 14:20 |
| marcustomlinson | you also see "Unauthorized"? | 14:21 |
| hellsworth | yes that is correct | 14:21 |
| marcustomlinson | hellsworth: you don't even have a libreoffice12 ppa | 14:21 |
| hellsworth | oh cause the link says focal | 14:22 |
| hellsworth | copy pasta error when saving the results link.. | 14:22 |
| marcustomlinson | oh you do | 14:22 |
| hellsworth | thank you for being my rubber duck :) | 14:22 |
| marcustomlinson | ah should be groovy | 14:22 |
| hellsworth | they all passed. so we have a 7.0.1 with gcc9 ready to go. | 14:24 |
| hellsworth | i have another meeting to jump into but Laney would it be alright to go forward with this version upload to groovy now while debugging the gcc10 failures? | 14:25 |
| Laney | sure | 14:25 |
| hellsworth | ok cool. marcustomlinson i'm uploading the artifacts to google drive now. will give you access here in a min | 14:29 |
| Laney | google drive, kids these days! | 14:30 |
| * Laney clings to gopher:// | 14:30 | |
| hellsworth | Laney: whatever makes you happy, i say gopher it! | 14:31 |
| hellsworth | marcustomlinson: pretty please upload those artifacts to groovy at your earliest convenience | 14:31 |
| marcustomlinson | hellsworth: sure I'll look at it now | 14:32 |
| hellsworth | thanks | 14:32 |
| marcustomlinson | hellsworth: oh we're doing 7.0.1~rc1 | 14:36 |
| hellsworth | correcto mundo | 14:36 |
| marcustomlinson | okidoki | 14:37 |
| luna_ | Firefox 80 RC2 is building | 14:49 |
| marcustomlinson | hellsworth: it's happened again where the previous changelog entry (1:6.4.5-0ubuntu2) has gone missing | 14:51 |
| marcustomlinson | I think | 14:51 |
| hellsworth | ok hang on can't look now though | 14:51 |
| hellsworth | i will look as soon as this meeting is over though :) | 14:52 |
| hellsworth | thanks | 14:52 |
| ricotz | marcustomlinson, hmm, uploads which ignore the packaging repo :\ | 14:52 |
| marcustomlinson | yeah it has. not a blocker for upload, just remember to add it back | 14:52 |
| ricotz | please just ignore it and upload it as is | 14:53 |
| luna_ | https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/candidates/80.0-candidates/build2/ | 14:53 |
| ricotz | luna_, built in firefox-next ppa | 14:53 |
| luna_ | ricotz: nice | 14:54 |
| ricotz | official builds for the ubuntu archive will done next week | 14:54 |
| luna_ | ricotz: yeah stable release is on Tuesday next week | 14:54 |
| Laney | I didn't commit my libreoffice upload to the repo, sorry, I'm a 🤠 | 14:58 |
| marcustomlinson | tsk tsk | 15:02 |
| marcustomlinson | hellsworth: yeah we have to remember to do a sync with the source in archive between releases | 15:03 |
| marcustomlinson | hellsworth, ricotz: libreoffice is uploading, I gotta run to a school thing, hopefully it doesn't blow up while I'm gone | 15:04 |
| Laney | if you start using bileto it has some functionality to detect this | 15:04 |
| Laney | ...and run autopkgtests... | 15:04 |
| Laney | might be worth considering | 15:04 |
| marcustomlinson | I thought bileto was dead | 15:04 |
| marcustomlinson | or dying | 15:04 |
| marcustomlinson | :P | 15:04 |
| Laney | nah | 15:06 |
| Laney | I use it quite often, as does Trevinho and the server team too | 15:06 |
| GunnarHj | Hi RikMills, how urgent is the ibus upload you asked for at <https://bugs.debian.org/964558>? | 15:43 |
| ubot5 | Debian bug 964558 in src:ibus "Please change the ibus Recommends in ibus-data to a Suggests" [Normal,Open] | 15:43 |
| RikMills | GunnarHj: not super so. it would be great to have synced to ubuntu for the groovy beta | 15:44 |
| GunnarHj | RikMills: Ok. The person who usually handles ibus at Debian has been away for four weeks. But then I suppose it's ok to wait for a couple of weeks more before interfering. | 15:47 |
| * RikMills nods | 15:47 | |
| hellsworth | ok i'm back and see that marcus has uploaded even though i didn't do a sync (thanks for that) | 16:07 |
| marcustomlinson | ricotz, hellsworth: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/1:7.0.1~rc1-0ubuntu1 | 16:07 |
| hellsworth | Laney: how do i use bileto? | 16:07 |
| marcustomlinson | looks like ppc64el failed | 16:07 |
| hellsworth | ppc64el has already failed. no build log. can you please retry marcustomlinson ? | 16:07 |
| hellsworth | (i don't see a retry button but i don't have super powers to click it anyways) | 16:08 |
| hellsworth | maybe bileto is only used for uploads? | 16:09 |
| Laney | hellsworth: you can test builds, run autopkgtests, and then (have a sponsor) copy the thing to the archive (so it doesn't need to rebuild there) in bileto | 16:36 |
| Laney | sil2100: would it be ok to add hellsworth to ci-train-ppa-service to do LO candidate builds/tests with bileto? | 16:37 |
| hellsworth | hey that sounds awesome... are there any intructions/commands somewheres? | 16:37 |
| Laney | hmm | 16:37 |
| Laney | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bileto | 16:37 |
| hellsworth | (so i don't have to ask you every tiny question :) | 16:37 |
| Laney | but it's a bit crufty | 16:37 |
| hellsworth | well it's a start | 16:37 |
| hellsworth | i'll read through this a bit later todya | 16:37 |
| Laney | a LOT crufty! | 16:38 |
| Laney | you'll be doing https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bileto#Manual_Source_Uploads | 16:38 |
| sil2100 | Laney: oh, yeah | 16:41 |
| sil2100 | Laney: I think that's reasonable, let's do that | 16:41 |
| Laney | SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET | 16:41 |
| marcustomlinson | ooh can I be added too sil2100? | 16:44 |
| marcustomlinson | I think I used to have access back in the phone days | 16:45 |
| marcustomlinson | maybe I still do hmm | 16:45 |
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| mwhudson | good morning | 21:21 |
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