[01:43] <pieq> Morning!
[01:46] <callmepk> morning pieq
[03:18] <duflu> Oops, morning pieq and callmepk 
[03:18] <callmepk> morning duflu 
[03:18] <duflu> and jamesh 
[03:18] <callmepk> .... and morning jamesh 
[03:18] <jamesh> hi duflu, callmepk 
[06:08] <seb128> goood morning desktopers
[06:17] <callmepk> morning seb128 
[06:22] <jibel> Good morning folks
[06:25] <duflu> Morning jibel 
[06:33] <jibel> hi duflu 
[06:40] <didrocks> good morning
[06:42] <jibel> salut didrocks 
[06:44] <duflu> Hi didrocks 
[06:45] <didrocks> salut jibel, hey duflu 
[07:51] <marcustomlinson> morning desktoppers
[07:58] <duflu> Morning marcustomlinson 
[08:03] <didrocks999> hey marcustomlinson
[08:04] <Laney> moin
[08:05] <marcustomlinson> hey duflu didrocks and Laney
[08:07] <duflu> Morning Laney
[08:11] <didrocks> hey Laney 
[08:13] <Laney> hey marcustomlinson duflu didrocks, how is it going?
[08:13] <marcustomlinson> daaaaaaandy
[08:13] <marcustomlinson> how are you Laney?
[08:15] <didrocks> Laney: moderately complicated, and you?
[08:17] <Laney> I'm alright, I have Yorkshire Biscuit Tea so all is good
[08:17] <Laney> didrocks: house thing or work thing?
[08:22] <duflu> Laney, going well now. Lost electricity for 2 hours today though
[08:22] <didrocks> Laney: house ones
[08:26] <Laney> duflu: I bet that still feels mildly exciting
[08:26] <Laney> In my memories it was fairly frequent when I was a kid
[08:27] <duflu> Laney, I was happy to get some cleaning done before the evening, so yes?
[08:28] <Laney> cleaning...
[08:28] <Laney> ok, very mild then ...
[08:30] <duflu> Makes the evening something better to look forward to now
[09:25] <duflu> Oh mutter 3.36.4 in focal now. Get excited
[09:46] <Laney> seb128: have you looked into the libhandy / libhandy-1 situation by any chance?
[09:46] <Laney> it looks like not everything is ported
[09:47] <seb128> Laney, I did, and I've been ranting a bit about it on gitlab (https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-control-center/-/merge_requests/782#note_894317) and #gnome-hackers
[09:47] <Laney> also moin
[09:47] <Laney> ah good
[09:47] <seb128> I ended up uploaded gnome-control-center using libhandy1 for $reasons
[09:47] <seb128> unsure what to do, I'm unsure gnome-calendar is going to get ported
[09:48] <seb128> g-c-c has libhandy has a submodul but they remove the static build support so g-c-c does install libhandy as a shared lib now...
[09:48] <seb128> (if you build without the system lib)
[09:48] <Laney> mmm
[09:48] <seb128> the libs are co-installable though
[09:48] <Laney> like with a different name or in a private location or something?
[09:48] <seb128> so technically we could ship with 0 and 1 this cycle
[09:48] <Laney> but I noticed that *some* things were ported
[09:49] <Laney> so you probably get the problem with some other app later anyway
[09:49] <seb128> yes, gnome-control-center epiphany-browser
[09:49] <Laney> it's probably easiest to just promote -1 and have both for this cycle ...
[09:49] <seb128> no, g-c-c just includes libhandy as as submodule and build it the standard way, so you end up having a shared libhandy build from the gcc copy installed to the standard location
[09:50] <Laney> didrocks: ^- any MIR team thoughts?
[09:50] <seb128> right, that was my conclusion
[09:51] <didrocks> yeah, let’s promote -1 and keep both
[09:51] <seb128> thanks
[09:51] <didrocks> path of least resistance
[09:51] <seb128> it sucks a bit, at least I complained about it upstream
[09:51] <didrocks> yeah, it’s annoying that they don’t all align
[09:51] <didrocks> I wonder how fedora is handling it, as they don’t have soname in the package name
[09:51] <seb128> well, it's just that they really have a strict release process
[09:52] <seb128> so they do half transitions started by random people
[09:52] <seb128> and started after feature freeze...
[09:52] <seb128> *
[09:52] <Laney> if you have energy I think the release team might be a good team to talk to about this
[09:53] <Laney> (will promote -1, thanks didrocks)
[09:54] <Laney> done
[09:55] <didrocks> (yw)
[09:55] <Laney> they have an IRC channel I think, #release-team ?
[09:57] <seb128> right
[09:57] <seb128> maybe a better topic for discourse though, easier to have a real argumeneted discussion
[09:57] <seb128> IRC tends to turn into an argument with whoever is online at the time
[10:00] <Laney> fair
[10:20] <seb128> Laney, btw did you get a reply on #nm about your without gateway config issue?
[10:21] <Laney> that route thing?
[10:21] <Laney> yeah it works
[10:23] <seb128> was it in context of a vpn?
[10:23] <Laney> nope
[10:23] <seb128> I know about https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-control-center/-/issues/138 and it's one that I see mentioned every now and then
[10:23] <Laney> I have static networking on my desktop, it's kind of a weird setup
[10:24] <Laney> but I must have forgotten something I did because it all broke when Irebooted after upgrading to groovy /o\
[10:24] <Laney> trying to keep it all in NM and not anywhere else
[10:24] <seb128> ah ok
[10:24] <Laney> I can't use g-c-c for this though
[10:24] <Laney> it doesn't handle bridge interfaces
[10:24] <Laney> so I have to use nm-connection-editor which works properly
[10:25] <seb128> right
[10:25] <Laney> hmm
[10:25] <Laney> I guess it should detect this and hide the panel or something
[10:26] <Laney> because if I do anything in there it'll probably break it all
[10:26] <seb128> if it doesn't handle the existing config it should probably tell that yeah
[10:28] <KGB-0> mozjs pristine-tar c8bc92c Marco Trevisan (Treviño) mozjs78_78.1.0.orig.tar.xz.delta mozjs78_78.1.0.orig.tar.xz.id * pristine-tar data for mozjs78_78.1.0.orig.tar.xz * https://deb.li/i3NMs
[13:17] <marcustomlinson> haha didrocks
[13:22] <didrocks3> yeah, trying to change antenna to get better stability
[13:22] <didrocks3> incrementing all the way down :p
[14:05]  * Laney offers didrocks3 a shell account :>
[14:15] <hellsworth> good morning desktopers
[14:15] <marcustomlinson> hey hellsworth
[14:16] <hellsworth> hiya
[14:18] <hellsworth> hey marcustomlinson those autopkgtests that you started for me yesterday were on a pkg in hellsworth/libreoffice12 ppa. do you know why i can't see any results here? https://objectstorage.prodstack4-5.canonical.com/v1/AUTH_77e2ada1e7a84929a74ba3b87153c0ac/autopkgtest-focal-hellsworth-libreoffice12/
[14:19] <hellsworth> oh with a final ?format=plain :)
[14:19] <hellsworth> sorry that was confusing. let me rephrase. i can't see any results here https://objectstorage.prodstack4-5.canonical.com/v1/AUTH_77e2ada1e7a84929a74ba3b87153c0ac/autopkgtest-focal-hellsworth-libreoffice12/?format=plain and no clue why
[14:20] <marcustomlinson> hellsworth: I'm not sure I can see your results. I get "Unauthorized"
[14:20] <hellsworth> yeah me too
[14:20] <hellsworth> hmm ok
[14:20] <marcustomlinson> oh
[14:21] <marcustomlinson> you also see "Unauthorized"?
[14:21] <hellsworth> yes that is correct
[14:21] <marcustomlinson> hellsworth: you don't even have a libreoffice12 ppa
[14:22] <hellsworth> oh cause the link says focal
[14:22] <hellsworth> copy pasta error when saving the results link..
[14:22] <marcustomlinson> oh you do
[14:22] <hellsworth> thank you for being my rubber duck :)
[14:22] <marcustomlinson> ah should be groovy
[14:24] <hellsworth> they all passed. so we have a 7.0.1 with gcc9 ready to go. 
[14:25] <hellsworth> i have another meeting to jump into but Laney would it be alright to go forward with this version upload to groovy now while debugging the gcc10 failures?
[14:25] <Laney> sure
[14:29] <hellsworth> ok cool. marcustomlinson i'm uploading the artifacts to google drive now. will give you access here in a min
[14:30] <Laney> google drive, kids these days!
[14:30]  * Laney clings to gopher://
[14:31] <hellsworth> Laney: whatever makes you happy, i say gopher it!
[14:31] <hellsworth> marcustomlinson: pretty please upload those artifacts to groovy at your earliest convenience
[14:32] <marcustomlinson> hellsworth: sure I'll look at it now
[14:32] <hellsworth> thanks
[14:36] <marcustomlinson> hellsworth: oh we're doing 7.0.1~rc1
[14:36] <hellsworth> correcto mundo
[14:37] <marcustomlinson> okidoki
[14:49] <luna_> Firefox 80 RC2 is building 
[14:51] <marcustomlinson> hellsworth: it's happened again where the previous changelog entry (1:6.4.5-0ubuntu2) has gone missing
[14:51] <marcustomlinson> I think
[14:51] <hellsworth> ok hang on can't look now though
[14:52] <hellsworth> i will look as soon as this meeting is over though :)
[14:52] <hellsworth> thanks
[14:52] <ricotz> marcustomlinson, hmm, uploads which ignore the packaging repo :\
[14:52] <marcustomlinson> yeah it has. not a blocker for upload, just remember to add it back
[14:53] <ricotz> please just ignore it and upload it as is
[14:53] <luna_> https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/candidates/80.0-candidates/build2/
[14:53] <ricotz> luna_, built in firefox-next ppa
[14:54] <luna_> ricotz: nice 
[14:54] <ricotz> official builds for the ubuntu archive will done next week
[14:54] <luna_> ricotz: yeah stable release is on Tuesday next week
[14:58] <Laney> I didn't commit my libreoffice upload to the repo, sorry, I'm a 🤠
[15:02] <marcustomlinson> tsk tsk
[15:03] <marcustomlinson> hellsworth: yeah we have to remember to do a sync with the source in archive between releases
[15:04] <marcustomlinson> hellsworth, ricotz: libreoffice is uploading, I gotta run to a school thing, hopefully it doesn't blow up while I'm gone
[15:04] <Laney> if you start using bileto it has some functionality to detect this
[15:04] <Laney> ...and run autopkgtests...
[15:04] <Laney> might be worth considering
[15:04] <marcustomlinson> I thought bileto was dead
[15:04] <marcustomlinson> or dying
[15:04] <marcustomlinson> :P
[15:06] <Laney> nah
[15:06] <Laney> I use it quite often, as does Trevinho and the server team too
[15:43] <GunnarHj> Hi RikMills, how urgent is the ibus upload you asked for at <https://bugs.debian.org/964558>?
[15:44] <RikMills> GunnarHj: not super so. it would be great to have synced to ubuntu for the groovy beta
[15:47] <GunnarHj> RikMills: Ok. The person who usually handles ibus at Debian has been away for four weeks. But then I suppose it's ok to wait for a couple of weeks more before interfering.
[15:47]  * RikMills nods
[16:07] <hellsworth> ok i'm back and see that marcus has uploaded even though i didn't do a sync (thanks for that)
[16:07] <marcustomlinson> ricotz, hellsworth: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/1:7.0.1~rc1-0ubuntu1
[16:07] <hellsworth> Laney: how do i use bileto?
[16:07] <marcustomlinson> looks like ppc64el failed
[16:07] <hellsworth> ppc64el has already failed. no build log. can you please retry marcustomlinson ?
[16:08] <hellsworth> (i don't see a retry button but i don't have super powers to click it anyways)
[16:09] <hellsworth> maybe bileto is only used for uploads?
[16:36] <Laney> hellsworth: you can test builds, run autopkgtests, and then (have a sponsor) copy the thing to the archive (so it doesn't need to rebuild there) in bileto
[16:37] <Laney> sil2100: would it be ok to add hellsworth to ci-train-ppa-service to do LO candidate builds/tests with bileto?
[16:37] <hellsworth> hey that sounds awesome... are there any intructions/commands somewheres?
[16:37] <Laney> hmm
[16:37] <Laney> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bileto
[16:37] <hellsworth> (so i don't have to ask you every tiny question :)
[16:37] <Laney> but it's a bit crufty
[16:37] <hellsworth> well it's a start
[16:37] <hellsworth> i'll read through this a bit later todya
[16:38] <Laney> a LOT crufty!
[16:38] <Laney> you'll be doing https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bileto#Manual_Source_Uploads
[16:41] <sil2100> Laney: oh, yeah
[16:41] <sil2100> Laney: I think that's reasonable, let's do that
[16:41] <Laney> SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET
[16:44] <marcustomlinson> ooh can I be added too sil2100?
[16:45] <marcustomlinson> I think I used to have access back in the phone days
[16:45] <marcustomlinson> maybe I still do hmm
[21:21] <mwhudson> good morning