[01:43] Morning! [01:46] morning pieq [03:18] Oops, morning pieq and callmepk [03:18] morning duflu [03:18] and jamesh [03:18] .... and morning jamesh [03:18] hi duflu, callmepk === _thumper_ is now known as thumper [06:08] goood morning desktopers [06:17] morning seb128 [06:22] Good morning folks [06:25] Morning jibel [06:33] hi duflu [06:40] good morning [06:42] salut didrocks [06:44] Hi didrocks [06:45] salut jibel, hey duflu === pavlushka_ is now known as pavlushka [07:51] morning desktoppers [07:58] Morning marcustomlinson [08:03] hey marcustomlinson === didrocks999 is now known as didrocks [08:04] moin [08:05] hey duflu didrocks and Laney [08:07] Morning Laney [08:11] hey Laney [08:13] hey marcustomlinson duflu didrocks, how is it going? [08:13] daaaaaaandy [08:13] how are you Laney? [08:15] Laney: moderately complicated, and you? [08:17] I'm alright, I have Yorkshire Biscuit Tea so all is good [08:17] didrocks: house thing or work thing? [08:22] Laney, going well now. Lost electricity for 2 hours today though [08:22] Laney: house ones [08:26] duflu: I bet that still feels mildly exciting [08:26] In my memories it was fairly frequent when I was a kid [08:27] Laney, I was happy to get some cleaning done before the evening, so yes? [08:28] cleaning... [08:28] ok, very mild then ... [08:30] Makes the evening something better to look forward to now [09:25] Oh mutter 3.36.4 in focal now. Get excited [09:46] seb128: have you looked into the libhandy / libhandy-1 situation by any chance? [09:46] it looks like not everything is ported [09:47] Laney, I did, and I've been ranting a bit about it on gitlab (https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-control-center/-/merge_requests/782#note_894317) and #gnome-hackers [09:47] also moin [09:47] ah good [09:47] I ended up uploaded gnome-control-center using libhandy1 for $reasons [09:47] unsure what to do, I'm unsure gnome-calendar is going to get ported [09:48] g-c-c has libhandy has a submodul but they remove the static build support so g-c-c does install libhandy as a shared lib now... [09:48] (if you build without the system lib) [09:48] mmm [09:48] the libs are co-installable though [09:48] like with a different name or in a private location or something? [09:48] so technically we could ship with 0 and 1 this cycle [09:48] but I noticed that *some* things were ported [09:49] so you probably get the problem with some other app later anyway [09:49] yes, gnome-control-center epiphany-browser [09:49] it's probably easiest to just promote -1 and have both for this cycle ... [09:49] no, g-c-c just includes libhandy as as submodule and build it the standard way, so you end up having a shared libhandy build from the gcc copy installed to the standard location [09:50] didrocks: ^- any MIR team thoughts? [09:50] right, that was my conclusion [09:51] yeah, let’s promote -1 and keep both [09:51] thanks [09:51] path of least resistance [09:51] it sucks a bit, at least I complained about it upstream [09:51] yeah, it’s annoying that they don’t all align [09:51] I wonder how fedora is handling it, as they don’t have soname in the package name [09:51] well, it's just that they really have a strict release process [09:52] so they do half transitions started by random people [09:52] and started after feature freeze... [09:52] * [09:52] if you have energy I think the release team might be a good team to talk to about this [09:53] (will promote -1, thanks didrocks) [09:54] done [09:55] (yw) [09:55] they have an IRC channel I think, #release-team ? [09:57] right [09:57] maybe a better topic for discourse though, easier to have a real argumeneted discussion [09:57] IRC tends to turn into an argument with whoever is online at the time [10:00] fair [10:20] Laney, btw did you get a reply on #nm about your without gateway config issue? [10:21] that route thing? [10:21] yeah it works [10:23] was it in context of a vpn? [10:23] nope [10:23] I know about https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-control-center/-/issues/138 and it's one that I see mentioned every now and then [10:23] I have static networking on my desktop, it's kind of a weird setup [10:24] but I must have forgotten something I did because it all broke when Irebooted after upgrading to groovy /o\ [10:24] trying to keep it all in NM and not anywhere else [10:24] ah ok [10:24] I can't use g-c-c for this though [10:24] it doesn't handle bridge interfaces [10:24] so I have to use nm-connection-editor which works properly [10:25] right [10:25] hmm [10:25] I guess it should detect this and hide the panel or something [10:26] because if I do anything in there it'll probably break it all [10:26] if it doesn't handle the existing config it should probably tell that yeah [10:28] mozjs pristine-tar c8bc92c Marco Trevisan (Treviño) mozjs78_78.1.0.orig.tar.xz.delta mozjs78_78.1.0.orig.tar.xz.id * pristine-tar data for mozjs78_78.1.0.orig.tar.xz * https://deb.li/i3NMs [13:17] haha didrocks [13:22] yeah, trying to change antenna to get better stability [13:22] incrementing all the way down :p [14:05] * Laney offers didrocks3 a shell account :> [14:15] good morning desktopers [14:15] hey hellsworth [14:16] hiya [14:18] hey marcustomlinson those autopkgtests that you started for me yesterday were on a pkg in hellsworth/libreoffice12 ppa. do you know why i can't see any results here? https://objectstorage.prodstack4-5.canonical.com/v1/AUTH_77e2ada1e7a84929a74ba3b87153c0ac/autopkgtest-focal-hellsworth-libreoffice12/ [14:19] oh with a final ?format=plain :) [14:19] sorry that was confusing. let me rephrase. i can't see any results here https://objectstorage.prodstack4-5.canonical.com/v1/AUTH_77e2ada1e7a84929a74ba3b87153c0ac/autopkgtest-focal-hellsworth-libreoffice12/?format=plain and no clue why [14:20] hellsworth: I'm not sure I can see your results. I get "Unauthorized" [14:20] yeah me too [14:20] hmm ok [14:20] oh [14:21] you also see "Unauthorized"? [14:21] yes that is correct [14:21] hellsworth: you don't even have a libreoffice12 ppa [14:22] oh cause the link says focal [14:22] copy pasta error when saving the results link.. [14:22] oh you do [14:22] thank you for being my rubber duck :) [14:22] ah should be groovy [14:24] they all passed. so we have a 7.0.1 with gcc9 ready to go. [14:25] i have another meeting to jump into but Laney would it be alright to go forward with this version upload to groovy now while debugging the gcc10 failures? [14:25] sure [14:29] ok cool. marcustomlinson i'm uploading the artifacts to google drive now. will give you access here in a min [14:30] google drive, kids these days! [14:30] * Laney clings to gopher:// [14:31] Laney: whatever makes you happy, i say gopher it! [14:31] marcustomlinson: pretty please upload those artifacts to groovy at your earliest convenience [14:32] hellsworth: sure I'll look at it now [14:32] thanks [14:36] hellsworth: oh we're doing 7.0.1~rc1 [14:36] correcto mundo [14:37] okidoki [14:49] Firefox 80 RC2 is building [14:51] hellsworth: it's happened again where the previous changelog entry (1:6.4.5-0ubuntu2) has gone missing [14:51] I think [14:51] ok hang on can't look now though [14:52] i will look as soon as this meeting is over though :) [14:52] thanks [14:52] marcustomlinson, hmm, uploads which ignore the packaging repo :\ [14:52] yeah it has. not a blocker for upload, just remember to add it back [14:53] please just ignore it and upload it as is [14:53] https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/candidates/80.0-candidates/build2/ [14:53] luna_, built in firefox-next ppa [14:54] ricotz: nice [14:54] official builds for the ubuntu archive will done next week [14:54] ricotz: yeah stable release is on Tuesday next week [14:58] I didn't commit my libreoffice upload to the repo, sorry, I'm a 🤠 [15:02] tsk tsk [15:03] hellsworth: yeah we have to remember to do a sync with the source in archive between releases [15:04] hellsworth, ricotz: libreoffice is uploading, I gotta run to a school thing, hopefully it doesn't blow up while I'm gone [15:04] if you start using bileto it has some functionality to detect this [15:04] ...and run autopkgtests... [15:04] might be worth considering [15:04] I thought bileto was dead [15:04] or dying [15:04] :P [15:06] nah [15:06] I use it quite often, as does Trevinho and the server team too [15:43] Hi RikMills, how urgent is the ibus upload you asked for at ? [15:43] Debian bug 964558 in src:ibus "Please change the ibus Recommends in ibus-data to a Suggests" [Normal,Open] [15:44] GunnarHj: not super so. it would be great to have synced to ubuntu for the groovy beta [15:47] RikMills: Ok. The person who usually handles ibus at Debian has been away for four weeks. But then I suppose it's ok to wait for a couple of weeks more before interfering. [15:47] * RikMills nods [16:07] ok i'm back and see that marcus has uploaded even though i didn't do a sync (thanks for that) [16:07] ricotz, hellsworth: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/1:7.0.1~rc1-0ubuntu1 [16:07] Laney: how do i use bileto? [16:07] looks like ppc64el failed [16:07] ppc64el has already failed. no build log. can you please retry marcustomlinson ? [16:08] (i don't see a retry button but i don't have super powers to click it anyways) [16:09] maybe bileto is only used for uploads? [16:36] hellsworth: you can test builds, run autopkgtests, and then (have a sponsor) copy the thing to the archive (so it doesn't need to rebuild there) in bileto [16:37] sil2100: would it be ok to add hellsworth to ci-train-ppa-service to do LO candidate builds/tests with bileto? [16:37] hey that sounds awesome... are there any intructions/commands somewheres? [16:37] hmm [16:37] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bileto [16:37] (so i don't have to ask you every tiny question :) [16:37] but it's a bit crufty [16:37] well it's a start [16:37] i'll read through this a bit later todya [16:38] a LOT crufty! [16:38] you'll be doing https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bileto#Manual_Source_Uploads [16:41] Laney: oh, yeah [16:41] Laney: I think that's reasonable, let's do that [16:41] SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET [16:44] ooh can I be added too sil2100? [16:45] I think I used to have access back in the phone days [16:45] maybe I still do hmm === ijohnson is now known as ijohnson|lunch === ijohnson|lunch is now known as ijohnson [21:21] good morning