[03:56] <lotuspsychje> good morning
[07:35] <ducasse> good morning
[17:49] <lotuspsychje> croraf: tell me what your issue was again?
[17:49] <croraf> I mean no need for you to remember
[17:49] <croraf> But was a hell of the issue
[17:49] <croraf> My screen was crashing on boot
[17:49] <croraf> I thought it was like no way to work.
[17:49] <croraf> Like frozen graphics on boot.
[17:50] <croraf> Very random behavior, sometimes I managed to enter sometimes not.
[17:50] <croraf> Newest Nvidia RTX 2080 graphics. We disabled drivers, but still no help. We tried 1000 stuff. Whole day. I pasted bins.
[17:51] <lotuspsychje> croraf: what was the end solution?
[17:51] <croraf> We did some progress but still crashing. At the end you quit. And I alone tried for couple of more hours and the issue was in that Ubuntu graphics manager or something.
[17:51] <croraf> Not Gnome, but that other thing beneth
[17:51] <lotuspsychje> nvidia-settings?
[17:52] <croraf> no
[17:52] <croraf> At the end I think you said, oh, no wonder they call it experimental
[17:52] <croraf> let me find it on stackoverflow
[17:52] <lotuspsychje> hmm
[17:54] <croraf> https://askubuntu.com/questions/1188586/ubuntu-18-04-and-19-10-install-fails-on-omen-by-hp-17-cb0013nm-rtx-2080
[17:54] <croraf> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1852636
[17:54] <croraf> check the last comment on launchpad
[17:55] <croraf> Wayland trash
[17:55] <croraf> lotuspsychje,
[17:56] <lotuspsychje> croraf: i do recall your bug, but i did not recall solving something for you, did i advice you to create the bug?
[17:56] <croraf> no, you made me pass most of this stuff
[17:57] <croraf> pci=nommconf
[17:57] <croraf> you made like 70% and I made the last big thing.
[17:57] <croraf> We spent entire day :D
[17:57] <croraf> I basically wanted to quit and go back on the fking windows, but you pushed on.
[17:58] <croraf> Was gods hand that guided me to find the final WaylandEnable=false setting, cause I'm total noob.
[17:59] <lotuspsychje> sorry i dont recall anymore what i specificly adviced you croraf
[17:59] <croraf> Doesnt matter, just recalling some good memories :)
[17:59] <lotuspsychje> usually i try to test out different graphics drivers
[17:59] <croraf> that we did in 5 min.
[17:59] <daftykins> it's not very smart to buy new hardware when you desire to use Linux
[17:59] <croraf> yes, it sucks
[18:00] <croraf> man i wanted to throw my 3.5k USD laptop into trash
[18:01] <croraf> What I'm left with is the final thing to fix (well not final cause my Epson trash printer is also not working with). That's why I came back on the IRC after 9 months.
[18:01] <croraf> Ladies and gentleman meet the: "Microphone not working issue"
[18:02] <croraf> But we can leave it for another day, although it sucks
[18:02] <lotuspsychje> croraf: so your issue is now solved with pci=nommconf ?
[18:03] <croraf> This is the only option required from the boot options, and also: "WaylandEnable=false" in /etc/gdm3/custom
[18:03] <croraf> lotuspsychje,
[18:03] <croraf> it works like this for last 9 months, and it is good.
[18:03] <daftykins> with 18.04?
[18:04] <croraf> I tried 18.04 it required an install of new kernel, that was not available for it.
[18:04] <croraf> And my network wasnet working.
[18:04] <croraf> So we did it with 19.10
[18:04] <croraf> lotuspsychje, and myself
[18:04] <daftykins> so that's what's in use today, 19.10 ?
[18:04] <croraf> A month ago i switehced to 20.04
[18:05] <croraf> which broke my headset microphone...
[18:05] <croraf> And internal never worked at all.
[18:05] <daftykins> USB or analog jack?
[18:05] <croraf> headeset is connected through bluetooth
[18:05] <daftykins> lol
[18:05] <croraf> My jack microphone is working
[18:06] <croraf> but it is trash and noisy, I cannot use it any more
[18:06] <daftykins> it's like you made a shopping list of the worst things to use with Linux, bought them all then said "right, let's get cracking!"
[18:06] <croraf> :D
[18:06] <croraf> Well, I bought all the most expensive stuff
[18:06] <croraf> Which proved to be a bad idea
[18:07] <croraf> You know what is worst, the Epson printer/scaner....
[18:07] <croraf> that thing is mega trash
[18:07] <croraf> and their support... and their website
[18:07] <croraf> I was like ok, they are the best, the most famous, the US company
[18:07] <daftykins> i'm afraid the greatest problem here is that you took a gaming spec HP laptop and tried to throw Linux at it
[18:08] <croraf> daftykins, man, i trust in Linux :)
[18:08] <daftykins> oh it'll get there, in time - but i doubt you bought it with the intent to be an alpha tester
[18:08] <croraf> I had a gaming Lenovo Legion before, and it worked flawlesly on 18.04 and 16.04
[18:09] <croraf> I wanted to have the fastest processor, and do cool stuff with graphics.
[18:09] <croraf> I expected the peripherals to just work
[18:09] <lotuspsychje> croraf: https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2019/11/16/%23ubuntu.txt
[18:09] <croraf> Had good experience with Legion
[18:10] <daftykins> Lenovo kit gets a bit more attention, but it's hard to be certain without knowing the hardware spec
[18:10] <lotuspsychje> seems like a lot of volunteers were trying to help you that day
[18:10] <daftykins> regardless, thinking that one isolated experience would translate to a totally different brand was pretty nuts
[18:10] <croraf> hahahaha lotuspsychje
[18:10] <croraf> was a hard day man
[18:11] <croraf> was it ioria then who helped me the most
[18:11] <croraf> I dont remember any more :D
[18:13] <croraf> I guess it was ioria hahaha, falseflag then
[18:14] <croraf> Is ioria still alive on IRC?
[18:14] <lotuspsychje> croraf: i dont see any volunteers advicing you pci=nommconf, but you were mentioning it yourself at the end of the logs
[18:15] <lotuspsychje> croraf: yeah ioria joins daily on europe daytime
[18:16] <croraf> cool, he is a great guy for sure
[18:17] <croraf> I'm going back on #ubuntu with a question. A guy tried to help me today, but i was slow in responses and had to go afk several times so he had to leave at the end.
[18:18] <daftykins> IRC help is a marathon, not a sprint
[18:19] <croraf> I'm sorry, cause the guy really tried to help me and had time, but I went afk.
[18:29] <daftykins> ah i only meant it as a suggestion for how best to approach it