[00:21] hey folks, have you encountered an issue when mouse clicks stop working in KDE/Cinnamon? [00:21] cursor moves, but clicks don't work [00:24] cthulchu|: No, I have not seen, but does 'xev' see the mouse clicks ? [00:25] heh :( [00:45] RonWhoCaresHP520, ... what? [00:54] octav1a: I have it installed. But I can't get the printer to print a label [01:22] I waited too long to see my answer and the backscroll isn't that long. Sigh. I apologize. I wish I got notifications on my computer hexchat.. That would take me back to the right place in the back scroll. but I don't Get any. [01:27] tripelb: your connection also looks pretty unreliable; it might be worth fixing both problems at once and run weechat or irssi in a tmux or screen session on a vps somewhere, that can always be connected, and have thousands of lines of scrollback [01:29] <_jak> Hola! I tried to glob in an ffmpeg command, but the error I keep getting seems to suggest that the ffmpeg from the repos might not support it? I'm wondering how I might find that out [01:29] It's my home internet. I have 30 MB for $23 a month. I have a phone a computer and a Chromecast connected. They say that's the reason because that's overloading it even though I'm only using one device at a time. [01:29] I'll look into what you said sarnold [01:29] tripelb: ^^ too depending on how far back - the channels are logged: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ . [01:29] <_jak> "that" being whether or not the ffmpeg in the apt repos actually supports globbing [01:30] _jak: almost no program supports globbing -- that's almost always implemented in the shell, instead [01:30] _jak: eg when you type "ls *" ls only sees a * if there are no entries in the directory [01:30] <_jak> (here globbing is doing a command like `ffmpeg -i '%03d.png' -o foo.mkv` [01:30] I have not been able to find a reasonable phone irc client. Andchat was the best But it had the serious fl aw of continually moving you to t [01:31] tripelbo present time. [01:31] .. moving you to present time [01:31] hey folks. I tried linux mint and it's not as good as Ubuntu. I want to switch back to using Ubuntu here. Is there a safe way to switch without having to wipe it all? [01:31] <_jak> sarnold: ffmpeg is one of the few that does explicitly, e.g. when you glob you have to escape so the shell doesn't catch it [01:31] <_jak> I should have made that more clear [01:32] tripelb: I hear The Lounge isn't terrible, it might render okay in a phone browser [01:32] _jak: hmm I didn't see anything in the ffmpeg manpage that describes any kind of globbing interface to -i [01:34] cthulchu, I've installed using *something-else*, using existing partitions and no format and not had issues.. It's not perfect and can leave some mint crap behind.. same way you skip releases on ubuntu, or upgrade via re-install (backup first of course) success will vary on release you're going from & to like normal === zbenjamin_ is now known as zbenjamin [01:36] ok, I'm gonna do the clean install then [01:37] <`ajven> There is any solution to rebind razer trinity button? its 12 extra keys mouse [01:38] <_jak> sarnold: wait, really? I'm on 20.04LTS and in my manpage it says that when using an image sequence as input to -i, you can use globbing [01:39] _jak: aha! I missed that. [01:39] _jak: it says you need to use -pattern-type glob on the command line [01:41] `ajven: hmm, this suggests it might not be well-supported https://github.com/libratbag/libratbag/issues/27#issuecomment-145463427 [01:44] <`ajven> thank so no real permanent solution :( [01:45] well, I can't promise that, but I'd heard other people have good results with this library. if they don't support it, I'm not sure what the second choice is, if there is one [01:51] <_jak> sarnold: yeah, my issue is that when I have the command theoretically correctly typed out, there's an error where it says "can't find file '%04d.png' or whathaveyou [01:51] <_jak> I have a macos machine where I know this command will probably work, but I'd like to avoid transferring the tens of thousands of frames to it [01:52] _jak: if it is using shell globs, then it would require something more like '[0-9][0-9][0-9][0-9].png' if I've guessed the meaning correctly [01:53] (I have no idea if ffmpeg actually uses this style, either, but it is something bash can work with..) [01:53] if that doesn't work, then try '????.png' [02:03] <_jak> sarnold: that didn't work, so I'm going to just bite the bullet and either transfer these or compile ffmpeg myself. Thanks for helping though! === feodoran_ is now known as feodoran [03:33] Is there a way to boot into multiple OS's on the same motherboard? [03:34] Conradish006: Several ways. [03:34] Conradish006: Some concurrently. [03:34] I SSH'd into my server today, and ran the sudo lshw -short command. [03:34] I'll attach what I found [03:36] https://1drv.ms/u/s!AgSAao8Auv_pkVPjcYa-QNWXjru0 [03:37] I know it was a shared server [03:37] It has it's own SSD [03:38] So, is it possible to boot into several drives on the same motherboard and portion out a certain amount of RAM per OS/boot volume? [03:40] Conradish006: Show the channel ' sudo parted -l ' . [03:41] Conradish006: Ah, that sounds more IBM mainframish. I think the best you'll do nowadays is heavyweight virtualization. Xen might be the closest to what you're describing. [03:44] Bashing-om: That command will not run [03:44] It simply says "command not found" [03:45] Conradish006: How about lspci? [03:46] Conradish006: Hummm -- what are you running as my result: https://termbin.com/i7vs . [03:46] Not sure what you mean, I'm still a noob to the sudo command line. [03:46] Conradish006: sudo lspci [03:46] Ah sorry [03:47] Conradish006: It should show you emulated stuff if it's a VM. [03:47] Conradish006: dmesg will also have some hints [03:49] https://1drv.ms/u/s!AgSAao8Auv_pkVSR_BSMnjlB3m4C [03:53] Conradish006: Maybe "sudo dmesg | grep Hypervisor" will tell you what kind of hypervisor that is. [03:54] Or rather, is on. [03:54] I did dmesg [03:54] It filled my terminal with stuff waaaay more advanced than my level [03:54] Conradish006: Hence the grep, which will prune it down to the one line we care about. [03:55] Don't forget the caps. It's case-sensitive. Or you could say sudo dmesg | grep -i hypervisor [03:56] This is what showed up "[ 0.000000] Hypervisor detected: KVM" [03:57] kk, so that's what you're running on. [03:57] Conradish006: https://www.linux-kvm.org/page/Main_Page [03:57] And with that, bedtime for me. o/ [03:58] Thx, pulled it up right as you sent me the link [03:58] Thank you for your help [03:58] And thank you for being so kind as to help a noob who knows very little === LabMonkey is now known as Mechanismus === bluesabre_ is now known as bluesabre [05:34] is python-scgi the scgi_module in apache2 [05:36] Oh I've figured out where scgi came from now. rutorrent/rtorrent === PowerTower_121 is now known as PowerTower_120 [07:33] Hi all. I installed Ubuntu on Win10 (WLS) and figure out how to copy/paste over there. i tried ctlv-v, shift-ctrl-v, shift-insert, ctrl-insert and even rightclick. any suggestions ? [07:38] nevermind ill delete it and install a real vm [07:38] cu [07:48] Hi all! I have a difficulty with the management of sound through HDMI in 20.04.1 LTS 64 bit (which worked really well on 18.04 LTS). [07:48] The card is a HDA integrated on a Thinkpad. [07:49] Sending the output to a Marantz and from Marantz to Monitor. If the monitor is swicthed on, then everything works fine (but for the fact that the driver does not recognise the correct refresh frequency) [07:49] If the monitor is off, then I cannot send music to the Marantz through HDMI. [07:49] That never happened in previous LTS version. What changed? [07:53] you should discuss what device the "marantz" is (an AV receiver?), how the audio signal is transferred to it from your computer running ubuntu, and how it transfers from there to the monitor. [07:55] tomreyn: it is an AV receiver .... and as I explained ti is transferred through HDMI .... [07:56] on both connections? [07:56] tomreyn: both connections? [07:56] Sending the output to a Marantz and from Marantz to Monitor. [07:56] tomreyn: I do not understand the question, sorry [07:57] tomreyn: it is only one connection .... Laptop (HDMI output) > Marantz (HDMI Input) [07:57] tomreyn: I have only one HDMI on the laptop [07:58] okay, and from the AV receiver, how does the audi get to the monitor? [07:58] *audio [07:58] tomreyn: if the monitor is on, everything works fine .... the issue is when the monitor is off, so there is only the connection Laptop (HDMI output) > Marantz (HDMI Input) [07:59] so the earlier statement i wuoted was incorrect? [07:59] *quoted [08:00] tomreyn: if the chain is Thinkpad > Marantz > Monitor, the laptop identify and uses the HDMI correctly [08:01] tomreyn: if the chain is Laptop (HDMI output) > Marantz (HDMI Input), the laptop not detect the HDMI properly .... [08:01] tomreyn: I have also discovered it does not detect the digital output [08:04] maybe the av receiver does not pretend to be a video device if no monitor is connected to it, and the kernels' detection on this has improved since 18.04, so you don't get output there anymore when no monitor is connected to the AV receiver. [08:04] tomreyn: nope, because the receiver is designed to be used as amplifier. Indeed from windows and 18.04 LTS works correctly. [08:05] tomreyn: I would say that the fact it does identify properly the digital output as well means the driver is not working correctly on 20.04.1 [08:05] tomreyn: sorry, it does NOT identify properly .... [08:06] that's just a theory, though. you can inspect your X logs and see how the detection changes when you have just the av receiver connected vs. when you have the mnonitor wired to the av receiver and ubuntu detects the audio device and plays audio fine. [08:07] tomreyn: done that. A "new" HDMI simply appears in aplay -l .... [08:08] you could try sharing some logs (use the ubuntu or debian pastebins, or termbin.com) [08:09] tomreyn: I will, thank you. [08:12] tomreyn: by the way, do you know whether there is an airplay2 implementation for ubuntu? that would temporarily solve the problem .... [08:15] i do not know, others may === kostkon_ is now known as kostkon [08:38] didn't they use Alsa in 18 and now PulseAudio in 20? [08:40] summonner: why? [08:40] why what? Why did they use alsa in 18 and pulseaudio in 20? You'd have to ask the Ubuntu team [08:59] summonner: I do not understand the question .... I think you have pulseaudio on top of alsa (it is a guess, since you can use commands such as aplay and alsamixer) === beaver|bbl is now known as beaver|off [09:19] hello there. I need some urgent help because "sensors" shows that my fan is at -1 RPM and the system is getting hotter and hotter. What I try to achieve is that the fan runs at full speed. [09:19] I ran pwmconfig already but it did not create a config file [09:29] Hiho, I am using a theme in ~/.themes for my gnome-shell and also an extension with their own .css file, a few weeks ago i edited that file to a different colour value, however probably due to an update the colour changed back - how can i change the value let's say foo.colour{} that it will stick ? Can i just move the variables i want to changes into my .themes/myTheme/gnome-shell/gnome-shell.css file ? [09:44] Are there any irc clients in active development? [09:49] irssi or weechat are actively developed favourites [09:52] Hi there, just got strange problem. After restert sound check from the settings wokrs, no one player including Youtube from browser no any sound. Any idea how to fix and what i sthe problem? Never got such one. [09:53] xtao, I forgot to say non-terminal based. But thanks anyway. =D [10:40] im running speedtest-cli, but the computer is behind tor. Is there any command to 'unproxify' it? I tried --no-proxy and --proxy '', but it didn't work === ilvipero1 is now known as ilvipero [11:20] How do I install Yarn. I tried apt install yarn but it keeps installing cmdtools instead [11:20] I tried sudo curl -sS https://dl.yarnpkg.com/debian/pubkey.gpg | sudo apt-key add - [11:20] however i get gpg: can't connect to the agent: IPC connect call failed [11:49] Hi, I have a Lenovo ThinkBook 15-IIL and my trackpad isn't working. I'm on kernel 5.8 and it doesn't appear in /proc/bus/input/devices .It's an Elan trackpad and the trackpad itself works (tried on windows). Are there any other approaches I can take, except wait for a new kernel release and hope it's enabled? [12:39] Squarism: hexchat's development is rather slow these days, but at least it's still being maintained: https://github.com/hexchat/hexchat/commits/master [12:53] hi, anyone can help me with my mic not working issue. [12:53] the internal mic [12:53] LeMike: keep the system powered off for at least 10 minutes (so it can cool down), then: (a) if you have wired networking and get an ip address assigned automatically, boot the system to recovery (see below) and choose the option "network - enable networking", then "root - drop to root shell prompt", then run: journalctl -b | nc termbin.com 9999 #; (b) in all other cases, boot up normally, login, start a virtual terminal or switch to a [12:53] tty (see below) and run journalctl -b | nc termbin.com 9999 [12:54] !recovery | LeMike [12:54] LeMike: If your system fails to boot normally, it may be useful to boot it into recovery mode. For instructions, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveryMode [12:54] !tty | LeMike [12:54] LeMike: To get to the TTY terminals 3-6, use the keystroke Ctrl + Alt + F3-F6 respectively. Ctrl-Alt-F2 or Ctrl-Alt-F1 will get you back to your graphical login (Ctrl-Alt-F7 on 16.04). To change TTY resolution, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ChangeTTYResolution [12:54] !details | croraf [12:54] croraf: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information; for example, we might need errors, steps, relevant configuration files, Ubuntu version, and hardware information. Use a !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel. [13:05] Hi folks [13:24] tomreyn, im using 20.04 with all latest patches. I tried playing with alsa.config modes but didnt succeed in setting the correct mdoe. [13:25] Please tell me what to do next [13:28] !sound | croraf [13:28] croraf: If you're having problems with sound, click the Volume applet, then Sound Preferences, and check your Volume, Hardware, Input, and Output settings. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - https://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !players and !mp3. [13:29] i'm not good with sound trouble shooting and some of this documentation is outdated, but most should still be useful. [13:34] tomreyn I can narrow down my question. There are several bugs open on Ubuntu issue tracker [13:35] etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf most suggestions suggest to modify this configuration [13:35] croraf: you may want to also inspect the systemd journal using the journalctl -b command, looking for alsa / pulseaudio (pa) / driver related initialization issues. [13:36] I'm not good with linux [13:36] I would need someone experienced with sound to lead me true [13:36] so you're getting stuck reading the documentation provided? where? [13:38] I wanted to know the following. All the resources suggest to modify the config file I referenced. [13:38] Either options snd-hda-intel dmic_detect=0 [13:38] or options snd-hda-intel model=auto [13:40] where model is configurable. Now I also read I should find my audio coded used which is ALC 285. And match that in the list of modes. The most recent list I managed to find is https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/sound/hd-audio/models.html [13:41] so you have already identified snd-hda-intel to be the correct driver/kernel module to use for your specific hardware? [13:41] Other lists dont have 285, but this one has 28x with several dozens of modes, I don't know which ones I should test. My guess is that some of them might fix. [13:42] tomreyn, I dont know what that means [13:44] croraf: there are different audio chipsets, using different codecs. sudo lspci -knn | nc termbin.com 9999 would post info on your hardware to termbin.com, a pastebin-like site, enabling you to share this output with us. [13:45] tomreyn, https://termbin.com/w08e [13:45] through some commands i already identified my codec to be ALC 285 [13:46] cat /proc/asound/card0/codec* | grep Codec Codec: Realtek ALC285 [13:46] what about card1? [13:47] Codec: Nvidia GPU 92 HDMI/DP [13:47] cat /proc/asound/card1/codec* | grep Codec [13:47] question: how can remove that PPA https://pastebin.com/49dPN6tw because it says its not exist ? [13:48] so you have two audio chipsets, one will be on the mainboard, that's the 00:1f.3 Multimedia audio controller [0401]: Intel Corporation Cannon Lake PCH cAVS [8086:a348] (rev 10) one. the other is part of the grpahics card, that'ws the 01:00.1 Audio device [0403]: NVIDIA Corporation TU104 HD Audio Controller [10de:10f8] (rev a1) [13:48] tomreyn, yes it looks like [13:48] croraf: ^ and both use the snd_hda_intel driver, but different codecs. [13:49] tomreyn, https://termbin.com/u0eb [13:49] this is the output of aplay -l [13:50] croraf: the graphics card chipset would be relevant if you're using speakers connected to or internal to your monitor. otherwise, if you have audio output devices connected directly to your computers' audio out (active speakers, headphones etc.) you'll need to focus on the first one ("Cannon Lake PCH cAVS"). [13:52] tomreyn, I'm on laptop, but I guess my internal mic is related to my laptops screen? [13:52] westor: manually remove the configuration of this apt repository in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ and /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/ [13:52] tomreyn: what is the command to remove it please ? [13:53] croraf: your internal mic will be connected to your mainboard chipset, so the Intel Corp. Cannon Lake PCH cAVS [8086:a348] (rev 10) [13:53] westor: you delete files using the 'rm' command - this is not usually reversible, be careful [13:53] !terminal | westor [13:53] westor: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. In Unity or GNOME, search the dash for "terminal" and press ENTER. Other desktops: Applications -> System Tools -> Terminal (MATE), K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE), or Menu -> Accessories -> LXTerminal (LXDE). Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal [13:54] tomreyn, it is very similar to this one https://support.hp.com/hr-en/document/c06415625 [13:54] yeah but what is the actual command to remove that PPA [13:54] westor: you'll know once you familirized yourself with apt [13:55] westor: this is volunteer support, you'll need to spend some time on learning how to do things on your own. we support you in doing that. [13:55] but i am not man sorry i am a starter [13:55] So basically the internal mic, the mic connected with the jack plug and the bluetooth mic are all connected to the motherboards intel sound chip? [13:55] tomreyn, [13:56] westor: you have not tried to read the documentation i just provided you with, this would have taken you longer. [13:56] croraf: most likely, yes [13:57] croraf: take it for granted [13:57] that documentation describing some of the terminal commands but not the exact that needs to remove that PPA [13:57] if it is a pain for the support to help a starter by giving 1 command (easy for him) then ok i can respect that [13:58] yes yes tomreyn . And this chip communicates with the the HDA Intel PCH kernel module, using the ALC285 codec. As per our findings, right? [13:58] westor: i've seen you asking questions here before, always insisting in being given the very command to get something done, never trying to make progress on learning things on your own. that's not the approach we like to support here. [13:59] westor: it's probably easy for me, but it's also easy enough for you, and if you get stuck while you're actually trying, volunteers here will try to provide better hints. [14:00] westor: You can also acquire commercial support from Cannoical Inc. [14:00] * Canoical Inc. [14:00] you cannot say that if you don't know the background, i am trying to understand each command, i read docs and more, you cannot say that , of course some times that i stuck i feel free to ask here, never had issues about what to ask also i don't force anyone to answer its volunteer , i came here also to ask because i thought that the community here is friendly but ok i got what you are trying to pass out [14:01] croraf: that's right [14:03] croraf: so the mainboard audo chipset uses the snd_hda_intel (and snd_sof_pci auxiliary) kernel modules ("drivers"). the "modinfo" command can be used to get baic information on a kernel module. [14:06] croraf: coming back to the good link you found earlier about the options you can supply to further configure the codec... https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/sound/hd-audio/models.html#alc22x-23x-25x-269-27x-28x-29x-and-vendor-specific-alc3xxx-models ... [14:07] have you already tried to just raise the mic's volume using alsamixer? [14:10] westor: maybe this is a better documentation to start working with a shell: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommandlineHowto [14:11] hey guys, i am running ubuntu 18.04 on a dual core system with 4 GB of DDR2 RAM. The problem is when i open more than 6 or 7 tabs in firefox the system freezes. Increasing the hardware is not an option for me right now so will increasing the swap size solve this issue ? [14:11] If yes, what is the best possible way to achieve it without any data loss ? [14:11] Need your inputs and help please [14:13] tamarind: Ubuntu 18.04 supports using a swap file on the / (root) file system in addition to a separate partition formatted with the swap filesystem. === benfrancis7 is now known as benfrancis [14:14] tamarind: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq#How_do_I_add_a_swap_file.3F [14:14] tamarind: this can be easier to setup. on the other hand, the dedicated swap partition would likely provide (slightly?) better performance. [14:16] tomreyn, so i can have the swap partition and a swap file both running in parallel ? no performance issues on that ? [14:16] tamarind: note that 4 GB of RAM usable to the OS is just the minimum requirement of Ubuntu 18.04 LTS, and if you have an internal graphics processing unit, this may have locked memory to itself which is not available to the OS at all. [14:17] tomreyn, what do you think are the best ways to remove unnecessary overhead on the RAM and processor without having to downgrade the OS ? [14:17] tomreyn, and, thanks for replying to my query in the first place [14:17] tamarind: you can use them in parallel. i expect that writesw to and read from the swap *file* will be a little slower than to the swap *partition* [14:19] tamarind: your bios may provide options to choose how much of the installed ram will be dedicated to the graphics chipset. it's usally a values between 64 and 512 MB [14:19] you'll often see a selection box with three fixed values to choose from [14:20] tamarind: but note that reducing this memory may prevent your system from using accelerated graphics ("3D", as needed for playing games, for example) properly. [14:20] tomreyn, oh [14:21] for regular desktop use without gaming, 64 or 128 MB *may* be sufficient. [14:21] is there a way to reduce all GUi graphics in ubuntu and cut down on all beauty features or something which should give better results ? [14:22] tamarind: there are some other ubuntu !flavours which have lower system requirements. [14:22] !flavours [14:22] Recognized Ubuntu flavors build on Ubuntu and provide a different user experience out of the box. They are supported both in #ubuntu and in their flavor channel. For a list, see https://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu-flavours [14:22] i would think xubuntu and mate may have lower requrements. [14:24] tamarind: also ensure that you're using the x86_64 Ubuntu variant, so that your system can actually address the full 4 GB of memory. [14:25] the uname -m command should return x86_64 and the dpkg --print-architecture command should return amd64 [14:28] tomreyn, yes both the output contains 64 [14:28] tamarind: this hardware must be really old, though, and you should try to replace it soon, both for a better (user) experience and a for a lower energy footprint. [14:28] also, the cpu will likely be out of support. [14:29] tomreyn, created a 10GB swap file by following the link you gave. also made the swap enabled on bootup using the same tutorial [14:29] tomreyn, now how do i check if this is actually being used as expected ? [14:29] tamarind: cat /proc/swaps [14:32] tamarind: als the total swap should have increased as per free -h [14:32] tomreyn, how do i upload the output of command line automatically to website (without copy pasting it manually) ? [14:33] cat /proc/swaps | nc termbin.com 9999 [14:34] tomreyn, https://termbin.com/n9hd [14:35] tomreyn, looked up nc and understood that it is used to open any tcp/udp connections, so we opened the connection to termbin via the port 9999 and piped the output to that. Is the understanding correct ? [14:36] tamarind: that's right! [14:38] tamarind: so you appear to have a total of ~ 11GB swap now. that's more than this system will ever be able to use, but not an issue if you have sufficient disk space available. [14:38] tomreyn, i understand your comments about the hardware, i still have my Pentium 3, 2.x Ghz machine and looking for a spare to make it run as a second machine for education purposes [14:39] tomreyn, oh, how do i find the max size the system can handle ? [14:39] tamarind: the swapfaq i pointed you to earlier discusses this in a different section: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq#How_much_swap_do_I_need.3F [14:42] tamarind: in case you're wondering: "hibernation" is swapping the contents of RAM out to disk when shutting down, to be able to save power and start with the applications still opened after powering up again. it's most likely *not* something you want to do on this hardware (or in general nowadays, as there is a better alternative, suspending to ram). [14:42] tomreyn, thank you. so since i have 4 Gb RAm, should i resize the swap file size to 8 GB so that the 2GB is not wasted on my 250Gb HDD ? [14:42] tomreyn, but suspending to RAM means i need to have the power switched on right ? === JanC is now known as Guest31265 === JanC_ is now known as JanC [14:44] tamarind: whether you'd need a wall plug depends on which power states your hardware / firmware supports, and whether your battery still works well. [14:47] tamarind: about the swap file size table i pointed you to above: if you won'T use hibernation when a *total* (as seen on "free -m) of 2048 MB (2 GB) RAM should be sufficient. maybe 3 GB in hopes to keep the system usable with the web browser allocating much RAM. [14:48] tomreyn, read the article and removed the swap file which i created with 10Gb in efforts to create a new with less size [14:48] tomreyn, during the process i did the command "gksudo gedit /etc/fstab" as mentioned there [14:49] and there seems to be no gksudo command. I tried to concatenate the output to termin.com but it failes since the command fails as well [14:49] tamarind: ok, so maybe just create one which is 1 to 2 GB so that you'll end up with ~2-3 GB total [14:50] i guess they meant sudo and not gksudo - but want to confirm before assumiong that [14:50] tamarind: instead of gksudo gedit /etc/fstab use gedit admin:///etc/fstab [14:51] tomreyn, sorry i had to leave for some time. I'm back now. [14:51] The input device is not recognized at all [14:51] https://pasteboard.co/JnyDbIc.png [14:52] croraf [14:52] hi guys, can lvm create a degraded mirror ? [14:52] what? WanTeed [14:52] tomreyn, got it, removed the line and saved [14:52] i have my problem with my ssh [14:52] can u help me ? [14:53] tomreyn, about the battery - this is a desktop [14:53] I guess I have to try to configure my alsa-base.conf file with properties "options snd-hda-intel ..." tomreyn [14:54] tomreyn, about the swap size - suppose if i enable hibernation then i need to have 2x size of the RAM as swap file size - correct ? [14:54] can i ask croraf ? [14:54] WanTeed sorry I'm noob in linux [14:54] tomreyn, actually i would love to use the hibernation since everytime i start the desktop i need to manually open the programs one by one [14:55] oky [14:55] no problem croraf [14:55] anyone a live can help [14:57] so with snap apps, i notice the longish start times on cold boot for applications. will this be improved upon in later versions of snapd and ubuntu or is there a ceiling to how fast applications can start up under snap? [14:59] tomreyn, https://termbin.com/93am [15:00] tamarind: the suggested total swap sizes to use with and without hibernation are listed on the table at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq#How_much_swap_do_I_need.3F - it's not exactly 2x physical RAM for hibernation, as you can see. but, again, i don't think you want to use hibernation (in case of your desktop computer it would only make sense if you needed to unplug its wall plug regularly AND you actually had any benefit from [15:00] persisting application state - a convenience feature which i don'T think makes any sense on your hardware, since entering the power saving mode and returning from it will take much longer than a normal shutdown + boot) [15:01] tamarind: you can install gnome-tweaks and then select which applications should be started automatically. [15:03] so you have 8.96 GB total swap now. [15:04] croraf: does the "alsamixer" command, run from a terminal, show the input device, though? press F6 to select the right sound card, then use cursor keys to left and right to look for the mic [15:06] tomreyn, https://pasteboard.co/JnyJ2Kw.png [15:06] tomreyn, got it. thats why you said 2 to 3 GB... i understand. Also the swap that i have created will be a system wide setting and not just for my user right ? [15:07] croraf: it may scroll to the left and right when you move using the cursor keys [15:07] tamarind: that's correct [15:08] !ask | WanTeed [15:08] WanTeed: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience [15:08] !details | WanTeed [15:08] WanTeed: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information; for example, we might need errors, steps, relevant configuration files, Ubuntu version, and hardware information. Use a !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel. [15:10] tomreyn, gnome-tweaks is awesome, thank you [15:11] (This is a crosspost, but I want opinions from here too, as the cacher will be serving all of Devuan, Ubuntu, Raspbian, and Debian.) I know this falls into the category of "survey" but I need to set up an APT caching proxy, and apt-cacher-ng is what I'm seeing. Anything else I should evaluate before I dive in? [15:11] Lutin: the lvmraid(7) man page on Ubuntu 18.04 suggests so. [15:11] see the "Activating an LV with missing devices" section [15:12] tomreyn that would be lvcreate --type mirror --mirrors 0 -L 5G --nosync -n data vg-01 ? [15:13] tomreyn, also the nc termbin command only pastes the succesfull output, how to paste the error output (like command not found) as well [15:13] ? [15:13] Lutin [15:13] Lutin: i haven't done it myself, so my guess would be as good as or worse than yours [15:13] Hi, I'm trying to disable the i2c_hid module, and followed the steps from here https://wiki.debian.org/KernelModuleBlacklisting but after I reboot, the module still shows up in lsmod. Is there any other way to do this? [15:13] how know your ip adress in linux [15:14] liviuba: You could always remove the module, and dpkg-divert it so updates don't replace it. [15:14] I'm actually trying to get the elan_i2c module to load, as per here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1861610 [15:14] Launchpad bug 1861610 in linux-oem-5.6 (Ubuntu Focal) "'Elan touchpad' not detected on 'Lenovo ThinkBook 15 IIL'" [Undecided,Fix released] [15:14] tomreyn yeah I get a strange warning: WARNING: New mirror won't be synchronised. Don't read what you didn't write! [15:14] Insufficient suitable allocatable extents for logical volume data: 2560 more required [15:14] tamarind: command -v --other-option 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999 [15:15] Lutin [15:15] tomreyn now I'm testing this on openwrt as well and the raid1 says it's not in the kernel I made a ticket there... weird [15:15] WanTeed what is your issue ? [15:15] i wanna know my ip adress in my root [15:15] tomreyn, thank you [15:16] tamarind: you're welcome! [15:16] i have installed ubuntu version 20 [15:16] @mason, as in, just run `modprobe -r i2c_hid` ? [15:16] i am new in linux [15:16] liviuba: No, you're already doing that, aren't you? I'm talking about actually moving aside the module file so that it's not there to load. [15:16] @mason, I thought disabling it means removing it, is there any other way to get rid of the module? [15:16] !YY.MM | WanTeed: There is no "Ubuntu 20" [15:16] WanTeed: There is no "Ubuntu 20": Ubuntu version numbers are: YY.MM (YY=release year,MM=release month). Each year sees two releases, so just specifying YY is imprecise. See also https://www.ubuntu.com/about/release-cycle [15:17] mason, oooh ok, I thought about doing that but was scared I'd end up with a non-booting machine, lol. Will reboot and try now [15:17] WanTeed: i assume you installed Ubuntu Desktop 20.04 LTS, does this sound right? [15:17] tomreyn, 2>&1, so this means the second buffer checks for the existence of the 1st buffer which is the command name ? [15:18] yess tomreyn [15:18] liviuba: It's a bit drastic, but it's also a straight line to what you want. [15:18] Ubuntu Desktop 20.04 [15:18] liviuba: Plus, whenever I suggest something like this, if there's a solid clue of a better way people always eagerly supply it. [15:18] so how can know my ip adress [15:19] WanTeed: press the "windows" key and search for network - there will be a gear icon for the connected interfaces - click that and you'll see connection info, including IP [15:20] i wanna know how see my ip adress from linux no from windows [15:20] hostname -I [15:20] Is that ? [15:21] WanTeed: I know it's not Windows - most keyboards have a "windows" key between ctrl and alt [15:21] WanTeed: from the command line, type "ip a" [15:21] WanTeed: you mean the ubuntu systems' p address in your local network or the ip address by which it is known to computers on the internet? [15:21] p address -> ip address [15:22] him give me 10.0.2.0.15 [15:22] croraf: your headphones are mute you need first unmuted headphones and mic level from 0 make high to 32 [15:22] but i could connect with it via putty [15:22] the module isn't loaded anymore, thanks. But the trackpad still isn't working :( [15:22] thank you tomreyn for your time and help [15:23] i can login only the same machine serveur [15:23] but with other computeur it impossible [15:24] this ip address dont work in putty [15:24] I tried compiling a 5.8 kernel, with some touchscreen drivers removed, which clashed with the elan_i2c module that I needed. This is the kernel I'm booting off of, could this have anything to do with it? [15:24] WanTeed: it's not a valid IP address [15:24] so how know the good ip adress [15:24] !!!! [15:24] this is my problem [15:25] WanTeed: could it be 10.0.2.15? or 10.0.0.2? there are only 4 octets in an IP address === kostkon_ is now known as kostkon [15:26] WanTeed: press Alt-F2, type: gnome-control-center network and press enter [15:26] via command ip a i get that === bildramer1 is now known as bildramer [15:27] WanTeed: also, is this in a virtual machine, like VirtualBox? [15:27] yess [15:27] yeats [15:27] VirtualBox [15:27] exacly [15:27] !enter | WanTeed [15:27] WanTeed: Please try and keep as much of your info as possible on ONE line - easier to follow for everyone. [15:28] WanTeed: ok, so you need to go into the virtualbox settings for the machine and change networking from NAT to Bridged [15:28] aha wait [15:28] WanTeed: then you may need to do "sudo systemctl restart networking", then it will give you an IP that's on your home network [15:29] it oky yeats [15:29] i must restart the machine or not ? [15:29] i already change it [15:30] liviuba: indeed i would recommend against moving module files around on your file system just for the purpose of not loading them. there's module blacklisting and other configuration options for this purpose. [15:31] WanTeed: you should not need to reboot, but it also won't do any harm. [15:31] WanTeed: rebooting the virtual machine won't hurt, but may not be necessary [15:31] that^^ :-) [15:32] :) [15:32] @tomreyn I tried disabling the module, but it was still enabled [15:32] tomreyn: I tried disabling the module, but it was still enabled * [15:33] liviuba: "disabling" how? [15:33] hi all [15:33] oky yeats i am rebooting === StathisA| is now known as StathisA [15:35] tomreyn: I tried the steps here https://wiki.debian.org/KernelModuleBlacklisting and also added the module to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf (as per the guide here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1861610 ) [15:35] Launchpad bug 1861610 in linux-oem-5.6 (Ubuntu Focal) "'Elan touchpad' not detected on 'Lenovo ThinkBook 15 IIL'" [Undecided,Fix released] [15:36] tomreyn: this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1861610 is what I'm actually trying to do, to get my touchpad to work [15:36] liviuba: can you sum up the problem again and which ubuntu version you are running, and what you tried so far? [15:38] yeats [15:38] when i change NAT to Bridged my kaybord is bloked [15:38] !!!!!!!!!! [15:38] what happend [15:40] tomreyn: I have a Lenovo ThinkBook 15 IIL and my touchpad isn't working. I'm running ubuntu 20.04 with kernel 5.8.0 (I had to compile it because there were some elan touchscreen drivers that were clashing with elan_i2c somehow, IIRC). I've tried the guide here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1861610/comments/66 and not have moved the i2c_hid module somewhere else, and added elan_i2c in /etc/modules [15:40] Launchpad bug 1861610 in linux-oem-5.6 (Ubuntu Focal) "'Elan touchpad' not detected on 'Lenovo ThinkBook 15 IIL'" [Undecided,Fix released] [15:41] allo yeats [15:41] WanTeed: this may suggest you were already connected to the ubuntu system through a network link, such as through an ssh or vnc connection, not controlling the VM through virtualbox's GUI. [15:41] when i change NAT to Bridged my kaybord is bloked [15:41] WanTeed mouse works? [15:41] yes [15:41] th34lch3m1st [15:42] WanTeed open system monitor and kill ibus-daemon [15:43] see if it works again [15:43] liviuba: did you try a pre-compiled ubuntu kernel from the mainline ppa, yet? [15:43] !mainline | liviuba [15:43] liviuba: The kernel team supply continuous mainline kernel builds which can be useful for tracking down issues or testing recent changes in the Linux kernel. More information is available at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds [15:44] ibus-daemon is not running [15:45] WanTeed which ubuntu? [15:45] 20.04 [15:46] tomreyn: I think I did, even though now I have only kernel 5.8 and 5.4 in grub when booting. I can try and install a mainline kernel now, just to take things step by step [15:46] then th34lch3m1st [15:46] WanTeed my system have ibus-daemon running at every start. [15:47] i do ps x and i dont see ibus-daemon [15:47] WanTeed then try reboot and see if it's there [15:47] tomreyn: IIRC when running `cat /proc/bus/input/devices | grep -i track` there was no trackpad, and that's how I decided it wasn't working, but I can try again now [15:47] oky th34lch3m1st [15:47] tomreyn: should I move the kernel i2c_hid kernel module (the one I've moved so that it wouldn't load) back where it was before installing the mailine kernel? [15:49] liviuba: the patch which adds the new elan i2c IDs (which the bug report you linked to refers to) was merged to the main linux tree on 2020-07-08 https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/include/linux/input/elan-i2c-ids.h?id=a50ca29523b18baea548bdf5df9b4b923c2bb4f6 [15:50] not find th34lch3m1st [15:50] when i change NAT to Bridged my kaybord is bloked [15:50] liviuba: yes, you should move the kernel module back in place [15:51] and then i change Bridged to NAT my kaybord is work [15:52] Everytime have 3 windows open on the same workspace and I copy some file nautilus restart (I mean, all the desktop icons disappear, screen black for half a second, then everything come back, with some gosth window selection). [15:53] tomreyn: it's possible that i've tried the mainline kernel was before it was merged, it's been a long debugging process, lol :D I'll move the module back and try v5.8 now (should I also try 5.9) [15:53] th34lch3m1st .... [15:53] when i change NAT to Bridged my kaybord is bloked [15:53] and then i change Bridged to NAT my kaybord is work [15:54] WanTeed: how are you connecting from the virtualization host (i assume this is some version of Microsoft Windows, based on what you wrote so far, but you should really be telling us about your setup) to the guest system (Ubuntu 20.04 LTS from what i think i remember you writing above)? [15:55]