[00:01] <Maik> brookerose1312: since ubuntu budgie is a official flavor it's ok to ask here.
[00:01] <brookerose1312> ah, gotcha.
[00:02] <Maik> i guess the ubuntu budgie channel is good for asking about Ubuntu Budgie specific things. The core in every flavor is ubunut after all.
[00:02] <Maik> ubunut/ubuntu
[00:04] <brookerose1312> It seems as if the workaround for the intel (14iil05) version isn't covered in the linked post, only the ryzen one.
[00:08] <brookerose1312> So I did cat /proc/bus/input/devices and I don't even see a touchscreen input device, which maybe I'm just looking in the wrong spot.
[00:11] <Bashing-om> brookerose1312: ' apt policy xserver-xorg-input-all ' show installed ?
[00:13] <tomreyn> brookerose1312: to identify the touchscreen: sudo acpidump | grep -C3 ELAN
[00:14] <brookerose1312> I see ELAN2097 only, which I'm assuming is the touchpad but I might be wrong.
[00:14] <brookerose1312> no, wait. that should be the touchpad.
[00:22] <brookerose1312> the apt policy xserver-xorg-input-all on their computer shows `installed: (none)`
[00:23] <brookerose1312> also they didn't have acpidump on their system, but it's the same as my system (exact same model) so it's going to be ELAN2097
[00:23] <brookerose1312> (also when I said that should be the touchpad I meant touchscreen, running on very low energy right now haha)
[00:25] <Bashing-om> brookerose1312: tomreyn: See ' apt show xserver-xorg-input-all' and then consider to install ?
[00:26] <brookerose1312> would `sudo apt install xserver-xorg-input-all` work? or should I do that instead
[00:27] <Bashing-om> brookerose1312: "show" is to look and think about it . I expect however the install to pull in additional drivers.
[00:27] <brookerose1312> gotcha
[00:27] <brookerose1312> it's installed
[00:35] <tomreyn> "grep -rFi ELAN" on the xf86-input-libinput.git returns no output
[00:36] <brookerose1312> I *think* the i2c-hid kernel module needs to be enabled?
[00:36] <brookerose1312> and it isn't.
[00:37] <tomreyn> xf86-input-libinput.git is the source for package xserver-xorg-input-libinput which (in addition to a recommends against a a wacom package) is the only package xserver-xorg-input-all depends on, at least on 18.04
[00:37] <Towser> now, being open source and all, how do you make your own ubuntu distribution? like install it, customize it and pack it all up? if you're allowed to do it
[00:44] <soft_concrete> Towser: you're allowed to do it. There are ubuntu derivaties, such as xubuntu
[00:44] <soft_concrete> Linux Mint, I believe, is also based on Ubuntu
[00:48] <Towser> ok so how do you like make your own distro?
[00:52] <brookerose1312> That's a big ask, afaik.
[00:54] <guiverc> Towser, if I was going to do it, I'd look at someone who has done it and read their blogs.. eg. makulu linux used to be based on debian, when it switched to being based on Ubuntu, the main dev blogged about it, grabbing a script & modifying it for his own purpose, providing links to that too....
[00:58] <RonWhoCaresHP520> How do I change the default image viewer to "Shotwell" in Ubuntu 20.04 ?
[03:01] <ubone> i must have removed /etc/update-motd.d/90-updates-available how to get it back
[03:03] <matsaman> ubone: apt-file would probably be able to tell you
[03:04] <matsaman> probably from update-notifier-common
[03:16] <geosmile> ssh -o ProxyCommand="ssh -W %h:%p bastion-host" remote-host ----> kex_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host. ProxyJump is not working either - same error. Any ideas why?
[04:30] <qcpat> hi
[04:38] <geosmile> I have a usb stick that is read only for some reason. Any ideas  on how to fix that?
[04:38] <mnathani> netplan syntax : tabs or spaces, and how many?
[04:45] <robertparkerx> what is the proper way to stop rtorrent? I've read some mixed things...
[05:11] <Jordan_U> geosmile: What filesystem? How are you mounting it? Please pastebin the output of "dmesg".
[05:33] <gnoob> geosmile: I think they do that sometime when the go bad.
[05:41] <cthulchu|> wow, Plasma KDE is amazing
[05:41] <cthulchu|> it's actually such a pleasure
[05:41] <cthulchu|> and I'm running it on a 2015 laptop
[05:41] <cthulchu|> Gnome is great too. Running it on a 2005 laptop
[05:42] <cthulchu|> If it's gonna be as good as it is now, I will switch the rest of what I have to Ubuntu next year
[05:43] <guiverc> yeah I've been impressed with KDE Plasma too lately... gnome running great on a 2005 laptop though makes me wonder how high your standards are... (didn't like unity7 on a pentium 4 so never tried modern gnome)
[05:43] <cthulchu|> I feel kinda dumb for being a microsoft slave all these years
[05:44] <cthulchu|> oh, well, Gnome is somewhat glitchy on it, but I'm only using it as a home server and to watch movies with my wifey before sleeping
[05:44] <guiverc> sorry, I didn't realize the channel..
[05:44] <cthulchu|> what's with the channel?
[05:44] <guiverc> it's the support channel, I thought this was -offtopic or -discuss
[05:45] <cthulchu|> oh
[06:19] <Intelo> I want to upgrade obs studio to 25.0.8 but my distro 20 lts only have 25.0.3. What should I do?
[06:20] <lotuspsychje> Intelo: try the obs studio snap
[06:30] <Intelo> lotuspsychje: which version is this? https://snapcraft.io/obs-studio
[06:31] <lotuspsychje> Intelo: obs-studio                   25.0.8                   snapcrafters        -        OBS Studio for live streaming and screen recording
[06:31] <Intelo> thanks. so I remove the old one?
[06:32] <lotuspsychje> Intelo: test the snap first, to see if you like it
[06:39] <EliteGod^> hello folks. my VPS is having some connectivity issues. while the ZNC and other processes disconnect from time to time, SSH seems to be available even ten. any logs I can provide to help me debug this issue?
[06:42] <Intelo> lotuspsychje: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/TQDZfKZqms/
[06:43] <lotuspsychje> Intelo: for snap support please contact the maintainer: contact:   https://github.com/snapcrafters/obs-studio/issues
[06:52] <rfm> EliteGod^, does not sound like a Ubuntu problem, more something like your VPS provider is doing.  Would not expect any help here.
[06:54] <Intelo> lotuspsychje: whats the obs channel?
[06:55] <EliteGod^> I was wondering if could be some misconfiguration on netplan or even in ufw, but my ufw rules are only for incoming traffic and from specific IPS
[06:58] <EliteGod^> said issue started yesterday and so for the hosting provider says that they had no complaints about server connectivity from other clients ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[06:59] <EliteGod^> s/so for/so far/
[06:59] <lotuspsychje> !alis | Intelo
[06:59] <Woet> EliteGod^: did you run a MTR?
[06:59] <EliteGod^> Woet: and how do I do that?
[07:00] <Woet> EliteGod^: install MTR, run it.
[07:00] <EliteGod^> Woet: any specific arguments that I should use?
[07:00] <Woet> EliteGod^: nope
[07:05] <EliteGod^> Woet: thanks. I'll do it and see the output if the VPS fails again
[07:21] <Adam__> I have 2 logs that somehow unexplicably filled up with over 200GB of data, anyone have any advice in looking into it? I'm concerned it might be a security compromise
[07:21] <Adam__> any known bugs that could lead to this?
[07:22] <lotuspsychje> Adam__: pastebin a part of it so volunteers can see whats about, wich logs are they?
[07:23] <Adam__> which part? it's 200gb...
[07:23] <Adam__> `/var/log/syslog` and `/var/log/syglog.1`
[07:23] <lotuspsychje> Adam__: wich ubuntu version is this?
[07:23] <Adam__> 20.04
[07:24] <lotuspsychje> Adam__: ok, pastebin a part of it, where you think a lot of the same kind of errors are showing
[07:24] <Adam__> it's 200GB. I have no clue
[07:24] <Adam__> what's a good way to identify duplication?
[07:24] <Adam__> any suggestion on a tool to view the logs?
[07:25] <lotuspsychje> Adam__: without any clue, we cant grep any keywords
[07:25] <Adam__> well, that's my issue
[07:25] <Adam__> what clue can I give from a 200GB log?
[07:25] <Adam__> it's not like anything stands out from what I could see
[07:25] <Adam__> I looked at the last 500 lines, looked ok
[07:25] <Adam__> first 500 or so, same
[07:25] <lotuspsychje> Adam__: common sense is needed here, search for very repetitive errors
[07:26] <Adam__> how do I know what's repeated when I can't see the vast majority of the file????
[07:26] <Adam__> what can I use to look over the file easier?
[07:27] <lotuspsychje> Adam__: you could pastebin your dmesg, and meanwhile when investigating things, open a realtime: journalctl -f to see whats going on
[07:27] <Adam__> ok
[07:31] <Adam__> lotuspsychje: https://pastebin.com/xV1jQ4iU
[07:34] <lotuspsychje> Adam__: dmesg looks pretty sane to me, unless the snap apparmor error about yaru icons
[07:34] <lotuspsychje> Adam__: do you get those a lot in your realtime journal?
[07:34] <Adam__> nothing is happening really in the realtime journal, it spot out stuff at the start, then nothing
[07:35] <lotuspsychje> ok thats good news then
[07:35] <lotuspsychje> Adam__: how about items in your /var/crash ?
[07:37] <Adam__> sec
[07:37] <Adam__> brave, gnome shell, nemo, virtualbox
[07:37] <Adam__> nothing crazy
[07:38] <lotuspsychje> gnome shell crashes could lead to filling logs with errors
[07:38] <Adam__> ok
[07:39] <Adam__> wait
[07:39] <Adam__> these crash reports look big
[07:39] <Adam__> one sec
[07:40] <Adam__> https://pastebin.com/iqwz9Xyd
[07:42] <Adam__> lotuspsychje ^
[07:42] <lotuspsychje> Adam__: there's a few things you can try, is open your syslog anyway with command line editors or keep your journalctl -f open for a longer time and launch every one of the potential crash programs
[07:43] <lotuspsychje> Adam__: find the root cause of whats spamming your logs
[07:43] <Adam__> ok
[07:44] <lotuspsychje> Adam__: like, we know dmesg showed a lot of snap yaru errors, i would try the software centre for example
[07:44] <Adam__> is there any good tool for trying to read a log that size?
[07:45] <lotuspsychje> Adam__: well, bigger text files will always lag a bit with any kind of tool, but perhaps pastebinit or nc to termbin can help out
[07:45] <Adam__> I mean, 200gb though...
[07:46] <lotuspsychje> Adam__: can try, cat ~/some_file.txt | nc termbin.com 9999
[07:46] <Adam__> I doubt a browser could even handle a 200gb file
[07:46] <Adam__> I need to view it in pieces
[07:47] <lotuspsychje> Adam__: grep can help, but in your case we dont know whats causing things yet
[07:48] <ink> Hello, How can I back my Kubuntu OS, and use it in other computer?
[07:51] <Adam__> I found something
[08:01] <Adam__> lotuspsychje: https://pastebin.com/QPMyrQUc
[08:12] <lotuspsychje> Adam__: ok, a lot of polari errors
[08:12] <lotuspsychje> bbl
[08:39] <JeroenK> Not sure how to solve this wisely. Its about Run Command, Alt+F2. F2 and F3 are also my volume keys. And whenever I do Alt+F2 all that happens is lowering the volume. Maybe its an idea to put Run Command in the favourites bar? Dunno how though.
[08:47] <finish> Привет всем
[08:53] <EliteGod^> so, I seem to be on a dead end. `mtr` w/o any parameters show no packet loss, but some processes (like ZNC) did disconnected from IRC networks
[09:05] <snake-venom> Should i migrate my desktop Ubuntu 18.04.5 LTS to Ubuntu 20.x LTS ?
[09:06] <jelly> snake-venom, sure, but you can't do that yet
[09:06] <snake-venom> is migration will effect on my files ? or is there any method to migrate ubuntu from old to new without effecting internal setting like installs packages and files system
[09:07] <snake-venom> jelly, "but you can't do that yet" sorry did not get you ,
[09:07] <jelly> there is an in-place upgrade mechanism, but it's not ready yet for 18.04 -> 20.04 release upgrades
[09:07] <snake-venom> ok
[09:08] <snake-venom> so means i should not take any chance to make it more hard :) i will wait for internal tool to migrate..
[09:08] <jelly> even with that, expect some breakage and changes in GUI and GUI-adjacent tools
[09:08] <revolt112> EliteGod^, what does your mtr to chat.freenode.net look like?
[09:09] <jelly> going from 16.04 to 18.04 broke Unity quite a bit
[09:09] <snake-venom> ok
[09:13] <jelly> https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/focal-fossa-20-04-1-lts-point-release-status-tracking/17604 ... aaand you left!
[09:16] <EliteGod^> revolt112: I do see some packet losses in two hosts when using `mtr chat.freenode.net`
[09:16] <revolt112> some packet loss should not be mission critical
[09:17] <EliteGod^> now 3 hosts and two of them above 50% loss
[09:18] <revolt112> but pinging works without timeouts?
[09:18] <revolt112> do you tried running znc in foreground and look at the output?
[09:18] <revolt112> some usefull hints?
[09:20] <EliteGod^> weird fact is that this started to happen just yesterday, and I've updated the VPS from Eoan to Focal more than 40 days ago
[09:20] <EliteGod^> I'm guessing there's something going on with the providers routing or something?
[09:20] <Woet> EliteGod^: where did you run a MTR to?
[09:21] <Woet> oh, chat.freenode
[09:21] <Woet> it's a round robin, it's best to make it match your actual server
[09:21] <Woet> [11:21:22] EliteGod^ is connected on adams.freenode.net (Budapest, HU, EU)
[09:21] <Woet> the most important thing is that the last hop has no packet loss
[09:24] <EliteGod^> well, the nick in question is PeGaSuS. so I assume that `mtr wolfe.freenode.net` is the command?
[09:26] <EliteGod^> I'm very newbie regarding this kind of commands tho
[09:28] <revolt112> EliteGod^, give it a go
[09:29] <EliteGod^> the loss for that specific server is 0%. is there any way to show the output of MTR in real-time?
[09:29] <EliteGod^> I mean, for outsiders
[09:30] <revolt112> what does znc say?
[09:31] <EliteGod^> Welp.. I guess that my provider needs to take actions. I lost SSH connection and can't reconnect -_-
[09:31] <EliteGod^> so, it's not an Ubuntu issue or misconfiguration on my end for sure
[09:40] <JeroenK> Anyone knows how I can do Run Command? See above question. Thx!
[09:42] <tomreyn> JeroenK: is this on a laptop?
[09:42] <JeroenK> yes, Lenovo laptop
[09:42] <tomreyn> you probably have a Fn (function) key there?
[09:43] <JeroenK> yes
[09:43] <tomreyn> enter the bios setup and disable the option which makes F1-F12 keys work as function keys no matter what
[09:44] <tomreyn> so that you'll have to press the Fn key + F2/F3 to actually change audio
[09:44] <tomreyn> /volume
[09:45] <JeroenK> Ah, so basically everything stays the same, but I need to press Fn to make it work?
[09:45] <tomreyn> for the volume keys, yes, but not for the command prompt (Alt-F2)
[09:46] <tomreyn> i don't know for sure whether your bios has this option, of course, i'm speculating, but i've seen this on ther laptops
[09:47] <JeroenK> Suppose I want to do refresh, it will be Fn+F5 instead of just F5? Also F10/11 are for brightness, after your suggestion it would be Fn+F10/F11
[09:48] <JeroenK> I will check the bios and see what happens.
[09:55] <tomreyn> all the functionality depicted by icons on (or next to) the F1-F11 keys will only work while also pressing Fn
[09:56] <exprosic> hi all, does anyone know what happened to the input method in the latest live cd? I can't find that ibus icon among the system tray like all the youtube videos of ubuntu livecd have, and manual 'ibus-daemon -d' has no effect.
[09:59] <Intelo> When I plug audio interface behringer um2 for mic, the mic works fine but I cannot hear any audio from computer. I have pav control and the audio line vibrates but I can't hear anything. Whats wrong?
[09:59] <tomreyn> exprosic: can you be more specific than "latest live cd"?
[10:00] <tomreyn> a file name may already help
[10:02] <exprosic> tomreyn, sure, ubuntu-20.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso
[10:04] <exprosic> tomreyn, with unity, booted into the live cd without installation
[10:04] <tomreyn> exprosic: unity?
[10:06] <tomreyn> i don't think there's any support for the unity desktop on this iso
[10:07] <tomreyn> Ubuntu 16.04 LTS was the latest LTS release defaulting to Unity.
[10:07] <tomreyn> 18.04 LTS and 20.04 LTS use mutter/gnome-shell
[10:08] <tomreyn> i'm downloading ubuntu-20.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso right now, will run it in a VM and see if i can bring up ibus.
[10:08] <exprosic> tomreyn, sorry i have indeed missed years of ubuntu history. I should be gnome but looks very similar with unity. Anyway it's the one I've downloaded from the official website minutes ago without choosing specific desktops or so
[10:09] <exprosic> *it should be
[10:09] <exprosic> tomreyn, thanks dude
[10:14] <dragosiku> hi all
[10:14] <tomreyn> exprosic: when you go to Settings -> Region & Language -> Manage installed Languages and confirm to install the missing components, then close it, does the Language Support window say "Keyboard input method system: IBus" on the bottom?
[10:15] <dragosiku> hi all
[10:15] <dragosiku> who can hep me with a problem
[10:15] <tomreyn> !ask | hi dragosiku
[10:16] <dragosiku> i bought a OVH vps and i have few domain names, i wish to configure the VPS server to receive all emails for individual domain name
[10:16] <dragosiku> to receive and send from the VPS and also the VPS server to have mail server configured for all domains individual
[10:17] <exprosic> tomreyn, I've tried that moments ago, the only thing it installed was some cjk fonts which I don't need, and after that the ibus icons was still missing. I'll try again with a fresh bootup
[10:18] <tomreyn> exprosic: i'm not really into ibus, so may just be missing something, not sure how to test it.
[10:19] <tomreyn> dragosiku: which ubuntu variant and version do you have installed there? which kernel version is running?
[10:20] <dragosiku> 5.4.0-40-generic #44-Ubuntu SMP Tue Jun 23 00:01:04 UTC 2020 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[10:20] <exprosic> tomreyn, did you find the ibus icon after installing the missing components?
[10:20] <dragosiku> Welcome to Ubuntu 20.04.1 LTS (GNU/Linux 5.4.0-40-generic x86_64)
[10:21] <talx> hello guys, good week! -- I have a problem I can't figure out how to resolve. ---- when trying to run pycharm-community, I get "cannot open path of the current working directory: Permission denied" ... everything I know of has the right permissions and I think I visited any link in google regarding this
[10:21] <talx> anyone has an idea what should I check ?
[10:24] <tomreyn> exprosic: hmm, no, i wouldn't know what provides this icon in the first place, or what it would do exactly.
[10:25] <tomreyn> exprosic: there's "ibus-setup", a command you can run,maybe this helps?
[10:27] <exprosic> tomreyn, no it didn't. funny thing: the reason I booted ubuntu was to test another ibus functionality (more precisely: bug) which allegedly works in GNOME, so I tried the canonical GNOME distro.
[10:28] <tomreyn> dragosiku: you'll need to setup a mail server (such as postfix) with virtual mail domains. generally, ubuntu server support is also available in #ubuntu-server.
[10:29] <exprosic> the ime sucks exactly like 10 years ago.
[10:29] <dragosiku> tomreyn up to there i need to manage DNS from provider, can you help me that ?
[10:29] <tomreyn> exprosic: sorry, i don't think i can really help there. good luck!
[10:30] <dragosiku> lol
[10:30] <dragosiku> ok
[10:31] <exprosic> tomreyn, no problem, thanks anyway
[10:32] <tomreyn> dragosiku: i wasn't talking to you there. you'd need to point your domains' mx record to your vps's ip address, with a priority of e.g. 10. but you shouldn't do this before you've set things up properly on the vps, to not loose mail.
[10:33] <dragosiku> tomreyn can you point me how to do that please ?
[10:33] <JeroenK> K, forgot the nick of the person who helped me with Run Command, but I'm @ Bios now https://upload.picpaste.me/images/2020/08/23/15981786091089215210919558517533.jpg
[10:34] <JeroenK> I assume I need to disable hotkey mode?
[10:35] <tomreyn> dragosiku: how to configure authoritative dns for your domain names will depend on how you're hosting it. most people do not host authoritative dns themselves, but use a hosted service for it. most of the time this is a service included with domain name registration or web hosting.
[10:35] <tomreyn> JeroenK: that was me. and yes, i'd say that's the option you're looking for.
[10:36] <JeroenK> Aye
[10:36] <tomreyn> JeroenK: you probably also want to enable SVM support while you're there
[10:36] <dragosiku> tomreyn i have 2 domains name, bistrita.xyz and dragos.xyz for the moment, i need to point for both of them on OVH provider for forward the emails for individual one
[10:37] <JeroenK> O darn, just now left bios, I will return, sec
[10:37] <tomreyn> JeroenK: it's entirely unrelated, though, SVM is for hardware supported virtualization
[10:37] <tomreyn> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X86_virtualization#AMD_virtualization_.28AMD-V.29
[10:38] <tomreyn> if you'll never use virtualization, keep it disabled.
[10:39] <tomreyn> dragosiku: get support from ovh on how to do this, they're hosting your authoritative dns servers
[10:39] <JeroenK> What is SVM support about anyway?
[10:39] <dragosiku> tomreyn i did not pay for the support package :D
[10:41] <tomreyn> dragosiku: it's outside the scope of ubuntu support, though
[10:41] <tomreyn> JeroenK: see the wikipedia link i posted
[10:41] <dragosiku> if i print screen and upload the DNS page setup can you point me ?
[10:42] <JeroenK> K, both done, let's see what happens
[10:45] <JeroenK> Alright, shit seems to work :)
[10:45] <JeroenK> Thanks!
[10:50] <tomreyn> dragosiku: personally i'd recommend against hosting your own mail server if you're not into configuring authoritative dns, yet.
[10:51] <dragosiku> how to  configuring authoritative dns
[10:55] <JeroenK> O,  ow I seemed to killed off Fn+F11 for full screen. But thar
[10:55] <JeroenK> thats okay ;)
[11:04] <lotuspsychje> dragosiku: also update your system to latest
[11:13] <dragosiku> lotuspsychje all done, ready to forward DNS if you can help me please
[11:13] <dragosiku> http://bistrita.xyz/dnspage1.JPG
[11:13] <dragosiku> http://bistrita.xyz/dnspage2.JPG
[11:14] <lotuspsychje> dragosiku: i think tomreyn adviced you right already, you're in good hands at the server channel
[11:14] <dragosiku> i need to point them to MY VPS's IPv4 address is: 51.195.149.214
[11:14] <lotuspsychje> dragosiku: just wanted to point out your kernel was a bit behind
[11:14] <dragosiku> no one answer there
[11:14] <lotuspsychje> dragosiku: its sunday, might have a bit of patience today
[11:15] <lotuspsychje> dragosiku: usually more active users at weekday, US wakeup timezone in -server
[11:18] <Intelo> My headphones not working. What could be wrong?
[11:18] <Intelo>  https://imgur.com/o4qLe5i.png   https://imgur.com/olU6x2g.png
[11:50] <Ascavasaion> What do I install to connect to an IRc network that requires identd?
[11:52] <lotuspsychje> Ascavasaion: for irc questions in general please join #freenode
[11:52] <Ascavasaion> I found it.. oidentd
[11:52] <Ascavasaion> lotuspsychje: It was an ubuntu Q
[11:58] <Mat63> Hello, in the command line user, I type:
[11:58] <Mat63> su -
[11:59] <Mat63> then I digitize the same password that I use to enter Ubuntu every time I start section.
[12:01] <Mat63> su: Authentication failure
[12:02] <Mat63> many times I download programs and it asks for my password, then I enter the password and it works. But now that I want superuser permission the message is Authentication Failure
[12:03] <Mat63> It may be that for superuser you have another password?
[12:07] <Mat63> hi
[12:08] <InFlames> lotuspsychje: I'm the one who was asking for help on the logs, turns out Polari was somehow causing this massive amount of logs, all logs shrunk to 2MB max after cleaning this app out of them. Thanks again
[12:08] <lotuspsychje> great to hear InFlames
[12:11] <Mat63> help
[12:12] <InFlames> I am surpised with the default log rotation and compression of Ubuntu that it was able to fill the log like that
[12:13] <lotuspsychje> InFlames: these days logs are handled by journal
[13:16] <Sven_vB> hi! In lspci, is this a wifi antenna? which kernel module would be appropriate to use it? 03:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Centrino Ultimate-N 6300 (rev 3e)
[13:19] <Sven_vB> I'll try the options from https://slackalaxy.com/2020/03/29/centrino-ultimate-n-6300-not-responding/
[13:20] <Towser> let me be a bit more specific about yesterday's question. how do you make your own ubuntu distro like something that uses ubuntu but it's highly changed around to be a different distro
[13:20] <NetTerminalGene> is wayland default for 20.04?
[13:22] <NetTerminalGene> ok nevermind. it is
[13:22] <NetTerminalGene> X
[13:25] <Sven_vB> Towser, I think that question would be more suitet in #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:39] <Mystified> during installation I did not activate fingerprint reader as a login method
[13:40] <Mystified> I've looked under users & there is no option to activate the fingerprint security feature
[13:40] <Mystified> anu suggestions please
[13:40] <Mystified> btw I have a lenovo yoga
[13:40] <Mystified> laptop
[13:41] <Mystified> thanks in advance!
[15:20] <lotuspsychje> hey ioria o/
[15:20] <ioria> lotuspsychje, hey, how you doing ?
[15:21] <lotuspsychje> all good over here ty ; )
[15:21] <ioria> good
[15:24] <nitindo> Hi, is anyone facing GDM and top bar of gnome shell being too big after recent updates? I have to go to display and change fractional scaling and revert them to get expected size of top bar
[15:32] <lotuspsychje> nitindo: is it only top bar, or your whole resolution?
[15:33] <nitindo> just the top bar after login, but for GDM its the whole screen
[15:34] <lotuspsychje> nitindo: can you check if your graphics driver is installed correctly: sudo lshw -C video
[15:35] <lotuspsychje> nitindo: at bottom should show driver= here
[15:35] <nitindo> Its fine. I can play RDR2 :) configuration: driver=nvidia latency=0
[15:35] <lotuspsychje> yeah that seems good
[15:36] <lotuspsychje> nitindo: can you pastebin your dpkg logs from the date you suspect your issue started?
[15:36] <nitindo> sure
[15:39] <geosmile> for 20.04 - what is a good replacement for xpdf. evince is too slow for that
[15:39] <nitindo> lotuspsychje: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/VNznPfbWvR/
[15:40] <croraf> ioria, hi, yesterday i came back after 9 months, remembering how you and me solved that pesky HP Omen, Wayland bug. Was hell of a battle. Do you remember https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1852636?comments=all ?
[15:40] <croraf> After 9 months I still have microphone issues.
[15:41] <lotuspsychje> nitindo: i see some gnome related updates and also mutter updates, let me see if i can find relevant recent bugs
[15:42] <ioria> croraf, yes, i remember; sorry to hear that; what about the mic problem ?
[15:43] <croraf> just to say once more. you were so great at that issue :) . I wanted to quit few times, and you kept debugging. Finaly when you quit some god's hand led me to the Wayland disable solution :D
[15:43] <lotuspsychje> !info mutter
[15:44] <nitindo> lotuspsycheje: Thanks, I can help debug the issue as well if you need.
[15:44] <lotuspsychje> nitindo: can you check if bug #1892605 is what you experience?
[15:44] <croraf> Basically the internal microphone is not working, the jack plug microphone is working, and bluetooth mic stopped working after 20.04 update last month.
[15:44] <croraf> ioria,
[15:44] <croraf> I dont know if you are good with audio, and you are interested in the bug, have time, we can take a look (but slowly).
[15:45] <lotuspsychje> croraf: i found a bug you commented on, related to what nitindo experiences, can you confirm?
[15:46] <lotuspsychje> croraf: bug #1892521
[15:46] <croraf> yes
[15:46] <croraf> this is already reported
[15:47] <nitindo> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mutter/+bug/1892521
[15:47] <ioria> croraf, honestly, not very good at audio; i usually check if the device is detected (arecord -l) and if not i  use hdajackretask
[15:47] <nitindo> This matches yes :)
[15:47] <croraf> how do you know i have the same?
[15:47] <croraf> lotuspsychje,
[15:47] <lotuspsychje> croraf: read the bug link, your name is among the answers
[15:48] <croraf> oh ok :D
[15:48] <lotuspsychje> nitindo: please affect the bug on the left upper corner
[15:48] <hydrian> Ello all
[15:48] <croraf> i got ubuntu patch yesterday, hoped it will get fixed but it didnt :/
[15:49] <hydrian> does anybody know how to forbid the current version of the kernel? It is causing X to segfault for me. I don't want it to stop upgrading when the next version comes out.
[15:50] <lotuspsychje> nitindo: please feel free to add your experience to the bug too, and add a screenshot of the bigger bar
[15:50] <croraf> ioria, yes, after some time i found one suggestion that suggested this hdajackretask
[15:51] <croraf> i think this is the solution
[15:51] <croraf> but would be tedious to set it up correctly, right?
[15:51] <ioria> croraf, nope, just select unconnect pins ans scroll down the devices and
[15:52] <croraf> There are those alsa-base.conf options like "options snd-hda-intel model=inv-dmic" but my codec is not in the list, so i dont know which to select
[15:52] <ioria> croraf, enable yours
[15:52] <croraf> Are those model's like a preset to what is done manually in this tool you suggest.
[15:52] <croraf> ioria,
[15:53] <ioria> croraf, i don't think so
[15:53] <croraf> because when i change the "model" value there some mics do show. Like I managed to show "rear microphone" but it collects sound from my laptop and loops it back
[15:54] <geosmile> any recommendations for xpdf replacement on 20.04lts?
[15:54] <croraf> ioria, https://pasteboard.co/JnItsHC.png
[15:55] <croraf> I guess my internal microphone should be on the Intel device not the Nvidia one?
[15:56] <ioria> croraf, tick 'unconnected pins'
[15:56] <croraf> https://www8.hp.com/h20195/v2/GetPDF.aspx/c06395354.pdf HP Wide Vision HD Camera with integrated dual array digital microphone
[15:56] <hydrian> and not have it uninstall the virual kernel package
[15:57] <nitindo> Coolio will do thanks
[15:57] <croraf> ioria, ok i have a lot of them from 0x12 - 0x21
[15:57] <lotuspsychje> nitindo: thank you for helping the community and the devs
[15:57] <croraf> ioria, but i do see Internal Speaker as connected
[15:58] <ioria> croraf, i gues you want interl mic not internal speakers
[15:58] <croraf> oh, sorry, yes
[15:58] <croraf> ioria,
[15:58] <ioria>  *internal
[15:59] <lotuspsychje> hydrian: a bit more info and details please of your ubuntu version and kernel?
[15:59] <croraf> ioria, if i select Override on some i do see a list of 8 devices to set on the pin
[16:00] <croraf> actually not all pins give the same list
[16:00] <croraf> some pins give only internal mic
[16:01] <ioria> croraf, sy, i have to leave for now; good luck
[16:01] <croraf> np, have a nice day :)
[16:01] <hydrian> lotuspsychje:  5.4.0-42-generic it is causeing X to segfault.
[16:02] <lotuspsychje> hydrian: can you confirm a previous kernel version is not segfaulting?
[16:02] <hydrian> I'm running a AMD Ryzen 3700U APU
[16:02] <hydrian> If I rollback to 5.4.0-26-generic, I don't have a problem.
[16:03] <hydrian> system is fully updated with not external PPAs.
[16:03] <hydrian> (Brand new install)
[16:04] <lotuspsychje> hydrian: could you pastebin your dmesg please?
[16:04] <hydrian> dmesg doesn't show anything. It was showing a segfault in Xorg.log
[16:05] <hydrian> The system would boot, but when lightdm would start, the video would hang (not the system). I could do an Alt-ctrl-delete with a clean shutdown.
[16:06] <hydrian> I booted into single user mode and checked the logs, nothing in dmesg/kernel.log
[16:06] <hydrian> Xorg had an issue.
[16:07] <hydrian> Another odd thing was that the new kernel would work from a warm reboot, but not from a cold boot.
[16:08] <hydrian> i.e. boot to rescue.target, 'shutdown -r now' and the normal boot would work fine.
[16:08] <hydrian> boot from  poweroff, I'd get a seg fault
[16:08] <lotuspsychje> hydrian: did you file a bug against the kernel yet?
[16:08] <hydrian> not yet.
[16:09] <lotuspsychje> hydrian: ok, lemme see if i can find relevant recent ones
[16:09] <hydrian> My wife has been needing this computer for a week now. Not sure if I'm going to have type to deep dive it it.
[16:09] <hydrian> s/type/time/
[16:13] <lotuspsychje> hydrian: cant find one right away related to yours, could you file a new !bug please?
[16:13] <hydrian> !bug
[16:13] <hydrian> I'll give it a try.
[16:13] <lotuspsychje> hydrian: just ubuntu-bug linux, from terminal will do the trick
[16:13] <lotuspsychje> hydrian: you have a launchpad account?
[16:14] <hydrian> lotuspsychje: For many years...
[16:14] <lotuspsychje> cool
[16:14] <hydrian> I've been using/fighting with linux since the 1990's.
[16:15] <lotuspsychje> lovely
[16:16] <hydrian> I was one of those psycho's that ran gentoo as their daily driver. Then I had kids.
[16:16] <lotuspsychje> hydrian: after sending the bug report, you can add a title + description of your segfault
[16:20] <geosmile>  anyone has any recommendations for xpdf replacement on 20.04?
[16:21] <lotuspsychje> geosmile: not sure whats your endgoal, but a lightweight pdf reader is mupdf
[16:40] <tomreyn> hydrian: you're saying the X segfult is not on the current dmesg. i assume you rebooted since. if so, you should be able to access the previous sessions' logs using    journalctl -b -1
[16:41] <tomreyn> journalctl --list-boots to show the runtimes which have been logged (the first column of which is what you'd pass to -b)
[16:42] <tomreyn> in case you're using the priprietary amd driver overlay ("amdgpu-pro"), be sure to point this out.
[16:45] <nitindo> Updated https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mutter/+bug/1892521.
[16:45] <hydrian> tomreyn: The seg fault is in the Xorg log, not dmesg
[16:46] <lotuspsychje> nitindo: thank you for affecting the bug, and adding a screenshot! the community thanks you
[16:47] <tomreyn> hydrian: okay, it'll be in journald, too, though.
[17:04] <TheMadDrizzle> I have a USB stick that I'm building to install xubuntu onto an older BayTrail laptop that won't boot a standard 64bit UEFI, so a translator file is required in the ' ../BOOT/EFI/ ' directory of the stick.  I cannot for the life of me figure out how to push this file to the directory as it's marked as a read only drive.  Permissions change and using sudo cp or sudo mv will not push this file.
[17:19] <coconut> Has the partitioner of the ubuntu 20.04.1 installer the same source code as the one of the ubuntu mate 20.04.1 ?
[17:24] <cobradabest> Hey, can someone help me? I'm trying to connect my Xbox One controller via USB, and it doesn't work.
[17:24] <cobradabest> When I plug it in, it just briefly vibrates, and then nothing.
[17:36] <ltpkunskapz> hi, i'm trying to mount an external usb dvd in ubuntu.
[17:36] <ltpkunskapz> however it doesn't show in /dev
[17:37] <ltpkunskapz> and i can't really localize it using lshw
[17:37] <ltpkunskapz> as it doesn't really show up at all
[17:38] <rjwiii> ltpkunskapz: USB?
[17:39] <ltpkunskapz> it is an IDE DVD with an USB adapter
[17:39] <rjwiii> ltpkunskapz: Is there a DVD in it now?
[17:39] <ltpkunskapz> yes
[17:39] <cobradabest> Can someone help me with my problem with the Xbox One controller?
[17:40] <ltpkunskapz> hmm not showing up in windows neither. when i did the same with an IDE CDROM it worked in windows.
[17:40] <rjwiii> ltpkunskapz: try this: go to a terminal window and type "eject" ...
[17:40] <ltpkunskapz> and in ubuntu
[17:40] <ltpkunskapz> eject: unable to find or open device for: `cdrom'
[17:41] <rjwiii> ltpkunskapz: try "lsusb"
[17:42] <ltpkunskapz> rjwiii: it's not showing
[17:42] <rjwiii> ltpkunskapz: silly question: do you have power running to the DVD drive?
[17:42] <ltpkunskapz> an assortment of usb root hubs
[17:42] <ltpkunskapz> yes
[17:43] <ltpkunskapz> the LED is flashing and all :)
[17:44] <rjwiii> ltpkunskapz: I've never used a IDE to USB converter ... I just bought a USB DVD drive ... they're cheap ...
[17:45] <rjwiii> ltpkunskapz: Maybe the converter needs a driver?
[17:49] <ltpkunskapz> rjwiii: it's weird because the other old CDROM worked
[17:49] <ltpkunskapz> but it's gear so
[17:50] <ltpkunskapz> old gear*
[17:50] <bostongeek36> who uses cd-roms anymore?
[17:50] <rjwiii> ltpkunskapz: has the drive worked before?
[17:50] <bostongeek36> you still use buggy whips?
[17:51] <helo> cdroms work great for scraping frost off of a windshield
[17:51] <ltpkunskapz> yea
[17:51] <rjwiii> bostongeek36: Hey, I still have a flop;y drive ... : )
[17:51] <cobradabest> Imagine picking on someone because of the format they prefer to use.
[17:51] <bostongeek36> weirdo'
[17:51] <cobradabest> I use all kinds of formats, myself.
[17:52] <bostongeek36> zip drives
[17:52] <rjwiii> bostongeek36: and it's 5 1/4 ...
[17:52] <cobradabest> And people like above only make me want to do it more.
[17:52] <bostongeek36> still got them wax cyinders going
[17:52] <tomreyn> ltpkunskapz: disconnect it on the computers' end, run    journalctl -f    in a terminal window, and keep the temrinal window visible, then connect the cdrom, and see what gets logged.
[17:52] <bostongeek36> tell your teenagers to turn on the recordplayer
[17:53] <bostongeek36> your gonna need a young priest and a old priest
[17:53] <tomreyn> !ot | bostongeek36
[17:53] <bostongeek36> i am
[17:54] <bostongeek36> so thanks ubottu
[17:55] <ltpkunskapz> tomreyn: nothing
[17:55] <ltpkunskapz> the USB converter also has lights on
[17:56] <tomreyn> ltpkunskapz: which ubuntu release are you running there?
[17:56] <ltpkunskapz> but it's yellow, not sure if that's the right color
[17:56] <tomreyn> lsb_release -ds
[17:56] <tomreyn> and what's the output of    cat /proc/version
[17:56] <ltpkunskapz> Ubuntu 18.04.5 LTS \n \l
[17:58] <ltpkunskapz> it's a new kernel and gcc 7.5.0
[17:58] <tomreyn> is it a stock kernel?
[17:58] <tomreyn> an ubuntu kernelk?
[17:58] <bostongeek36> doesnt support cdrom
[17:59] <ltpkunskapz> yes
[17:59] <ltpkunskapz> stock
[17:59] <tomreyn> ltpkunskapz: which one?
[17:59] <bostongeek36> i used cds as good frizebees
[17:59] <tomreyn> bostongeek36: please don't chat on this very channel, it's really only for ubuntu support Q&A
[18:00] <ltpkunskapz> 4.15.0-112-generic
[18:00] <bostongeek36> :P
[18:00] <bostongeek36> fine i won't make fun of people using old tech
[18:01] <cobradabest> At least we aren't lapdogs of any mega corporations.
[18:01] <tomreyn> ltpkunskapz: disconnect all usb devices you don't strictly need, and connect the cdrom to a differen usb port, if possible on the opposite side of the computer.
[18:07] <ltpkunskapz> still doesn't show up
[18:10] <tomreyn> ltpkunskapz: try on a different computer then, but it's likely some broken wire or hardware
[18:10] <ltpkunskapz> it didn't show up in windows neither
[18:10] <ltpkunskapz> so
[18:10] <ltpkunskapz> but the light is on and i can hear it speed up
[18:11] <coconut> Has the partitioner of the ubuntu 20.04.1 installer the same source code as the partitioner of ubuntu mate 20.04.1 ?
[18:14] <tomreyn> coconut: stock ubuntu uses the ubiquity installer. i'm not sure which installer mate uses.
[18:15] <tomreyn> ltpkunskapz: you can try replacing the wire, andf seek support with what so far looks like broken hardware in ##hardware
[18:16] <ltpkunskapz> ok, tried the cdrom for reference
[18:17] <ltpkunskapz> it works without problem
[18:17] <ltpkunskapz> is assigned to /dev/sr0
[18:17] <coconut> tomreyn, is the partitioner then basicly just gparted ?
[18:19] <tomreyn> coconut: i *think* its part of ubiquity itself.
[18:22] <coconut> tomreyn, ok then thank you :) (having a bug here on the partitioner where doing a custom option set of paritions, make the already existing partitions one MB bigger(which i think will go wrong...))
[18:24] <tomreyn> good luck
[18:24] <coconut> :)
[18:26] <ltpkunskapz> no dvd for me
[18:26] <ltpkunskapz> back to xvid
[18:26] <hydrian> lotuspsychje: tomreyn : https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/JmDt8HBrMH/
[18:26] <ltpkunskapz> thx for the help tho, i appreciate it tomreyn
[18:26] <hydrian> there's the dmesg from the same boot
[18:31] <bostongeek36> i have a dvddvddvddvd
[18:31] <tomreyn> hydrian: so a gpu ring timeout. you may be better off with a newer graphics stack + kernel. can you share the full kernel log?
[18:32] <carlesc> I am currently running socat to listen to a TCP port and redirect a serial port to it whenever a client connects. Can I also execute a script using socat *after* the client connects but *before* the serial port redirection begins?
[18:32] <lotuspsychje> bostongeek36: can we help you?
[18:34] <tomreyn> !uptodate | hydrian: you're actually running an outdated kernel image
[18:34] <tomreyn> (or were when this was logged)
[18:35] <lotuspsychje> tomreyn: think the -26 was the one he didnt have the segfault on
[18:35] <bostongeek36> guess you don't watch jeffery ross lotuspsychje
[18:35] <lotuspsychje> bostongeek36: lets keep it ontopic here tnx : )
[18:37] <tomreyn> lotuspsychje: hmm, yes, this can be why hydrian posted this one instead.
[18:42] <lotuspsychje> hydrian: when kernel -42 segfaults can you still enter system?
[18:44] <tomreyn> iks there a bug report on this, yet?
[18:44] <lotuspsychje> tomreyn: i asked him to file it, but didnt came in yet
[18:45] <tomreyn> i see, thanks.
[18:51] <hydrian> lotuspsychje: I can try. I have to reinstall that kernel again
[18:52] <lotuspsychje> hydrian: kernel -42 is current kernel on 20.04
[18:52] <tomreyn> hydrian: if only X segfaults you should be able to switch to a tty with ctrl-alt-f3 without problems
[18:53] <tomreyn> !sysrq| hydrian: or, worst case
[18:58] <hydrian> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/rrzBmyZKjN/ - updated kernel
[18:58] <hydrian> It looks like this isn't a regression
[18:59] <hydrian> I think the issue is just intermittent...
[19:00] <lotuspsychje> hydrian: try to proceed with your bug, you will help yourself and the community
[19:00] <lotuspsychje> ubuntu-bug linux
[19:30] <jem> Hi, this is just a curiosity, I just got accidentally this: ㏚ (Square pr, Unicode 0x33DA) when trying to type "Pr"; I pressed some wrong keys but I can't know which ones
[19:30] <jem> That was in plain bash
[19:31] <jem> And it's not the first time, it happened with other letter combinations and never figured out
[19:32] <jem> Searching, I can find about Ctrl+Shift+U33DA but nothing involving P and R
[20:00] <Sven_vB> jem, it's in the Cjk Compatibility block. do you happen to have some asian keyboard layout set up?
[20:01] <Sven_vB> jem, I could imagine it's typed by some compose key, then P, then r
[20:06] <jem> Sven_vB: No, Spanish keyboard, no special configuration
[20:06] <jem> I imagine the same but I can't reproduce it
[20:11] <RonWhoCaresHP520> Does anyone know the path to where network printer settings are stored?
[20:11] <RonWhoCaresHP520> (the file path)
[20:17] <hydrian> tomreyn: Definitely a kernel bug. Found a blog saying it is fixed in 5.6 which you can get with linux-oem-5.6-20.04 package
[21:25] <Aavar> RonWhoCaresHP520: I dont know, but from a curiosity standpoint. Why?
[21:32] <oerheks> Aavar, i helped him find the deb driver for his printer, i have no clue euther
[21:32] <oerheks> c/either
[21:32] <oerheks> and he must be crossposting..
[21:37] <craigbass76> Does the cinnamon version of Ubuntu (20.04) have a support channel, or am I better off asking over in the Mint room on another IRC network?
[21:39] <oerheks> craigbass76, cinnamon is in our repos, no dedicated channel AFAIK.
[21:40] <oerheks> i have no clue about cinnamon myself.
[21:41] <craigbass76> I can't figure out how to drag my windows list app over to the left. I almost went XFCE, but thought I had trouble a year or so ago with dropbox or something.
[21:47] <AndreYuhai> How can I always open gnome terminal without the toolbar? I am using i3.
[21:52] <craigbass76> AndreYuhai, Ctrl Alt t is how I have always done it, but that's not always the default
[21:53] <AndreYuhai> craigbass76, yes, but I meant configuring it to open always without the toolbar on the top.
[21:54] <craigbass76> Ahh. No idea then.
[21:54] <AndreYuhai> I've read somewhere gnome terminal doesn't have a config file but not sure so I wanted to ask here.
[21:57] <craigbass76> Wonder if you can snag another default terminal and monkey with that instead.
[21:59] <AndreYuhai> Oh I just didn't want to install another terminal just because of all the configs and stuff but looks like I will. :D
[22:37] <AndreYuhai> I've just installed alacritty from source but when I want to switch to it as default terminal it doesn't show up in the select screen of the command "sudo update-alternatives --config x-terminal-emulator"
[22:37] <AndreYuhai> How do I go about it?
[22:40] <UndeadLeech> AndreYuhai: Did you install the desktop file?
[22:41] <UndeadLeech> I think you can also just pass the path to update-alternatives, like /usr/bin/alacritty. But I'm not on Ubuntu so I can't verify it.
[22:41] <AndreYuhai> UndeadLeech, No.
[22:41] <AndreYuhai> UndeadLeech, oh if I can do that then that would be nice
[22:41] <AndreYuhai> I will try
[22:42] <UndeadLeech> You should probably install the desktop file, I'm not sure if that's required or not. But if you run a DE you probably want it anyways.
[22:43] <AndreYuhai> UndeadLeech, I have i3 installed as well. Not sure whether I still have to install the desktop file.
[22:43] <AndreYuhai> UndeadLeech, by the way that command does not seem to accept the path but I am checking the manual now.
[22:45] <AndreYuhai> UndeadLeech, actually it does have an option to give a path but then I get "error: alternative /usr/bin/alacritty for x-terminal-emulator not registered; not setting"
[22:45] <iogui> Desktop files seems to be useless for i3
[22:47] <UndeadLeech> Basically, yeah. Though you can run DE with i3 too. Just depends on what you're doing.
[22:47] <UndeadLeech> AndreYuhai: What's the full command you're running?
[22:48] <AndreYuhai> UndeadLeech, sudo update-alternatives --set x-terminal-emulator /usr/bin/alacritty
[22:48] <iogui> UndeadLeech: what is DE?
[22:48] <UndeadLeech> update-alternatives --install /usr/bin/x-terminal-emulator x-terminal-emulator /usr/bin/alacritty 20
[22:48] <UndeadLeech> You can try that, but I don't remember exactly what it does^
[22:48] <UndeadLeech> But that's what has been done in the past automatically for the .deb.
[22:48] <UndeadLeech> iogui: Desktop Environment. Like GNOME/KDE.
[22:51] <iogui> UndeadLeech: If I'm not missing some point here, Desktop Environment and window manager are the same, right?
[22:51] <AndreYuhai> I am trying that command
[22:53] <iogui> AndreYuhai: why not just edit the bindsym $mod+Return on your i3 config file?
[22:54] <UndeadLeech> iogui: That's incorrect.
[22:55] <UndeadLeech> KDE's window manager by default is kwin for example.
[22:55] <AndreYuhai> iogui, oh yea lol I never thought about that. All these config files and installations and stuff got me high.
[22:55] <UndeadLeech> i3's i3-sensible-terminal will also find Alacritty by default if you don't have any other terminals installed.
[22:56] <tomreyn> sudo update-alternatives --set x-terminal-emulator /usr/bin/alacritty && sudo update-alternatives --config x-terminal-emulator
[22:57] <tomreyn> actually that wont work if its not registered already
[22:57] <AndreYuhai> tomreyn, no, it didn't
[22:57] <tomreyn> --install is correct
[22:57] <AndreYuhai> but when I try install I get an error as well
[22:57] <AndreYuhai> Let me share
[22:58] <tomreyn> maybe you missed to specify priority
[22:59] <AndreYuhai> Oh yea it worked now haha
[22:59] <AndreYuhai> before it was saying something like x-terminal is already being used by something els
[23:00] <AndreYuhai> Now everything is good I've changed it, thank you!
[23:00] <tomreyn> UndeadLeech really provided the full command to add it earlier
[23:01] <iogui> UndeadLeech: My point is, if you are using i3 as your window manager, it doesn't really matter what is yout desktop environment becouse you don't need it
[23:01] <UndeadLeech> You can still run a DE and i3.
[23:04] <iogui> UndeadLeech: maybe but if you are really using i3, it doesn't really matter. You will stay way from it anyway
[23:05] <UndeadLeech> I've seen people run i3 with DEs. I wouldn't make any assumptions just because someone's running i3.
[23:06] <davido_> My Ubuntu 20.04 system seems to be having trouble with the Thunderbolt 3 dock. The dock appears to be working fine, but every few seconds: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/YbxTM7gdHp/
[23:06] <iogui> UndeadLeech: and i3-sensible-terminal will not find any terminal if you are not using i3-sensible-terminal in yout i3 config file
[23:07] <UndeadLeech> Correct.
[23:07] <davido_> I could almost be ok with it, except it's certainly wasteful, and it causes a little icon to appear in the ribbon at the top of the primary monitor for a few seconds, then disappear, then return again. That part is really annoying.
[23:08] <tomreyn> !uptodate | davido_: is your system fully updated? here's how
[23:09] <davido_> tomreyn yes, it is. I do so almost daily.
[23:09] <tomreyn> davido_: what's the output of     cat /proc/version
[23:11] <tomreyn> and which dock is it exactly?
[23:11] <davido_> Linux version 5.4.0-42-generic (buildd@lgw01-amd64-038) (gcc version 9.3.0 (Ubuntu 9.3.0-10ubuntu2)) #46-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jul 10 00:24:02 UTC 2020
[23:12] <davido_> It's a ThinkPad Thunderbolt 3 doc. I'll grab the model... just a moment.
[23:13] <tomreyn> davido_: please:   sudo lspci -knn | nc termbin.com 9999
[23:14] <davido_> 40AC0135US is the model
[23:14] <davido_> https://termbin.com/37le
[23:16] <davido_> This seems similar: https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=206109
[23:16] <davido_> I actually have two of these identical laptops. The other is running centos7, and doesn't have the same behavior. I don't have it up at the moment, so I don't remember what kernel version it's on.
[23:18] <tomreyn> davido_: likely a lower kernel version then, and the bug report you pointed to suggests it started with 5.4
[23:19] <davido_> probably. It also only recently began. I've been using Ubuntu 20.04 for awhile now, but began noticing it last week.
[23:20] <davido_> though I don't always use the dock with this LT. It could have started a week or so before that without me discovering it.
[23:20] <davido_> alright, I suppose i'm stuck with it this way awhile until a bugfix comes out.
[23:20] <tomreyn> davido_: just grep over journalctl for this:      probing: timeout, done
[23:21] <tomreyn> ...and you'll know when it started
[23:22] <davido_> well, there ya have it: Began May 1, but I didn't start seeing the icon popping up and going away repeatedly until a week or so ago.
[23:23] <tomreyn> davido_: you should probably file a bug against ubuntu's boltd as well (if there isn't one alreadY), then comment on and refer to it at https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/bolt/bolt/-/issues/156 as well, and maybe try a newer boltd
[23:23] <craigbass76> Anyone else had trouble with older samsung notebooks not wanting to boot off anything but the hard drive? I've got boot priority set to DVD and USB, but it's not spinning up the drive or making the thumb drive blink.
[23:23] <craigbass76> Well, I get blinking after WIndows is booted...
[23:23] <davido_> I've never filed a bug in Ubuntu's RT. This'll be a first, I guess.
[23:24] <tomreyn> !bug | davido_
[23:28] <davido_> How long should I expect the browser to keep refreshing ?
[23:28] <tomreyn> davido_: usually no more than 2 minutes
[23:31] <tomreyn> davido_: if this doesn't seem to work, just close the tab and re-run    ubuntu-bug bolt     # and if this still doesn't work, you can also report the bug here for now https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bolt/+filebug
[23:35] <davido_> Ok, reported. thanks.
[23:39] <tomreyn> davido_: it'd be good to also add a full dmesg and lspci -knn