[00:52] <klu3> please help! im trying to install woeUsb but it says:  "The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[00:52] <klu3>  woeusb : Depends: libwxgtk3.0-0v5 (>= 3.0.4+dfsg) but it is not installable
[00:52] <klu3> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages."
[00:53] <klu3> it says unable to correct problem is there anyway to manually correct it ??
[00:55] <Bashing-om> !info libwxgtk3.0-0v5 bionic
[00:57] <klu3> Bashing-om: oh btw im in 20.04 focal
[00:58] <h1pot> i'm having really slow boot times due to snapd.service, i looked up on systemd-analyze critical-chain and the process itself can take ~1min to start, any tips to troubleshoot this?
[00:59] <Bashing-om> klu3: How did you install woeueb ? Also available in the snap store.
[01:04] <klu3> Bashing-om: well i went to the github and it says for ubuntu go to https://launchpad.net/%7Enilarimogard/+archive/ubuntu/webupd8  and i did so i add the repositories and then did a sudo apt install woeusb it says error, also tried synaptic package manager same thing error, im gonna try snap store
[01:04] <Bashing-om> klu3: ^ looking at the link.
[01:05] <Jordan_U> klu3: Before you do anything else, you should purge that ppa. I'll give you instructions in a moment. Please explain how you added that ppa, which doesn't seem to have packages for Ubuntu 20.04.
[01:06] <klu3> Jordan U: on that link it says on the page add this to your system "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:nilarimogard/webupd8"
[01:08] <Jordan_U> klu3: Never mind, I was confused by the fact that some of the packages seem to be available for 20.04 and others don't. You should still purge it, but I was wrong about it not having packages for 20.04.
[01:08] <Bashing-om> klu3: Jordan_U: Might be iffy - found woeusb - 3.3.1-1~webupd8~focal0 .
[01:09] <Jordan_U> klu3: Please run "sudo ppa-purge nilarimogard/webupd8" to purge that ppa, which is how you should always remove ppas.
[01:09] <klu3> Jordan: thnx
[01:09] <Jordan_U> klu3: No sense having a ppa that you're not using, and you don't want it to update other packages you weren't expecting it to.
[01:10] <Jordan_U> klu3: You're welcome.
[01:11] <klu3> Jordan U: sudo: ppa-purge: command not found
[01:12] <Jordan_U> klu3: sudo apt install ppa-purge
[01:17] <klu3> Jordan U: thank you for the tips :D
[01:18] <klu3> Bashing-om: i installed woeusb from snap thanks you!
[01:18] <Bashing-om> klebers: :D
[01:28] <klu3> Bashing-om: i cant find woeusb in a list of programs installed and when i try to do "sudo snap start woe-usb"  it says- error: snap "woe-usb" has no services
[01:29] <Bashing-om> klu3: ' snap list ' does not show woeusb ?
[01:30] <klu3> its there
[01:31] <klu3> name woe-usb   version v3.3.0    Rev 21   Tracking latest/edge   Publisher ernytech
[01:34] <klu3> btw i did a reboot a minute ago, if that helps anything
[01:35] <Bashing-om> klu3: Humm .. what shows ' which woeusb ' to know the location.
[01:36] <klu3> nothing happens
[01:37] <klu3> i think i skipped a step
[01:37] <klu3> after i did 'sudo apt install snapd' i immediately did sudo snap install woe-usb
[01:37] <klu3> then step on the website says Either log out and back in again, or restart your system, to ensure snap’s paths are updated correctly.
[01:37] <klu3> https://snapcraft.io/install/woe-usb/ubuntu
[01:37] <klu3> maybe that's why?
[01:40] <klu3> i did a 'snap refresh' after that it says 'All snaps up to date.'
[01:41] <Bashing-om> klu3: snap is not my strong suit - but I would expect the app to be in the /snap/bin/ direcory.
[01:46] <klu3> Bashing-om: its there i just check here's the screenshot https://ibb.co/Fg2bkkP
[01:49] <Bashing-om> klu3: Maybe the snap is not assed to PATH. what results when stating woeusb with the full path ?
[01:49] <Bashing-om> passed*
[01:49] <klu3> Bashing-om: nothing happens when i do 'which woe-usb'
[01:50] <klu3> how do i passed to path or should i reinstall everything
[01:50] <klu3> like removed then reinstall
[01:52] <Bashing-om> klu3: Presently I look at this as a $PATH issue, what shows: sudo sh -c 'echo $PATH' ?
[01:54] <klu3> Bashing-om: "/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/snap/bin"
[01:55] <Bashing-om> klu3: Well so much for that thought from me " /snap/bin " is there :(
[01:55] <klu3> Bashing-om: i double click on the icon there's two of them for woeusb i click each one and it says the same error, here's the screenshot https://ibb.co/g3zG3DV
[01:56] <klu3> i hit yes nothing happens
[01:57] <klu3> im gonna try to remove then reinstall see if it does anything brb
[01:57] <Bashing-om> klu3: Verify the name of the Binary - what shows ' ls -al /snap/bin ' ?
[01:58] <klu3> total 8
[01:58] <klu3> drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 4096 Aug 23 20:13 .
[01:58] <klu3> drwxr-xr-x 12 root root 4096 Aug 23 20:13 ..
[01:58] <klu3> lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root   13 Aug  6 18:14 chromium -> /usr/bin/snap
[01:58] <klu3> lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root   13 Aug  6 18:14 chromium.chromedriver -> /usr/bin/snap
[01:58] <klu3> lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root   13 Jun 24 22:10 gphotos-sync -> /usr/bin/snap
[01:59] <klu3> hello?
[01:59] <klu3> ok cool i can talk again
[02:05] <Bashing-om> !paste | klu3
[02:18] <klu3> Bashing-om: cool ty
[02:23] <klu3> Bashing-om: idk what's wrong nothing is working LoL  https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Qc3GYkGPVH/
[02:28] <Bashing-om> klu3: Soory I am our of time - gotta go :( Hope others here can assist.
[02:28] <klu3> Bashing-om: thank you for trying
[03:10] <RonWhoCaresHP520> I posted my problem here https://askubuntu.com/q/1269566/453336
[03:13] <dtux> do i have to add myself to lpadmin to print? i'm trying to print from libreoffice draw and the job goes straight to paused
[04:43] <raddy> Hello
[04:44] <raddy> I am experiencing a weird issue across ubuntu and windows 10
[04:45] <raddy> Ubuntu is not having any problems in figuring out the present time after rebooting from Windows
[04:45] <raddy> But Windows 10 is always having wrong time if I reboot from ubuntu
[06:03] <pitiye> guys my terminal has mapping CTRL+h for backspace - i want to remove it - how to do that ?
[06:47] <_oops0> hello anyone~
[06:47] <ThinkT510> greetings
[06:49] <_oops0> where can i get the ubuntu mips architecture version? i can not found in the official website
[06:51] <summonner> if it's there, it should be under other versions
[06:51] <_oops0> ubuntu nosupport for MIPS architecture?
[06:52] <ThinkT510> I don't think ubuntu is available on MIPS
[06:53] <summonner> this was asked a month ago - https://askubuntu.com/questions/1260241/ubuntu-distro-for-mips-archeticture
[07:09] <pitiye> guys my terminal has mapping CTRL+h for backspace - i want to remove it - how to do that ?
[07:18] <_oops0> thks,i take a look,@summonner
[07:18] <_oops0> summonner: thks~~
[07:27] <Furai> Hey, recently I've started getting screen scale/DPI problems. They're set incorrectly after reboot and I have to manually go to the display settings, change it to 200% and just click revert so 100% looks correctly.
[07:27] <Furai> Any ideas what could have happened?
[07:47] <Furai> I'm using 5.7.17 kernel and 450.57 nvidia driver. Ubuntu 20.04 with latest updates.
[07:50] <summonner> Furai, the cause is the Nvidia monitor
[07:51] <summonner> er. Nvidia driver communicating with the monitor
[07:52] <Furai> I didn't change anything in the settings, unless some latest update to the drivers broke it.
[07:53] <summonner> I didn't say anything about settings
[07:53] <Furai> So is it a known issue or something?
[07:54] <summonner> it's not an issue, it's just that the driver talks to the monitor to get the EDID parameters
[07:57] <Furai> And it worked all the time without issues, started recently. Could TLP affect that?
[08:03] <Furai> Also it might be just affecting system components like panels/activities menu.
[08:58] <lotuspsychje> Furai: check if you are affected with bug #1892440
[09:11] <Furai> Hmm, I remember recently updating mutter.
[09:12] <Furai> Seems like that's the culprit, lotuspsychje, thanks. I'll subscribe to the issue.
[09:12] <lotuspsychje> Furai: tnx for feedback, the devs are working on it
[09:17] <Furai> I hope it's just the other way for me, as in I get the bigger font cause people in the thread report smaller fonts.
[09:22] <lotuspsychje> Furai: keep your system up to date, when its ready it will
[09:38] <croraf> Hi. If you open this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bugs?field.searchtext=microphone&search=Search&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&field.status%3Alist=TRIAGED&field.status%3Alist=INPROGRESS&field.status%3Alist=FIXCOMMITTED&field.assignee=&field.bug_reporter=&field.omit_dupes=on&field.has_patch=&field.has_no_package=&orderby=-
[09:38] <croraf> datecreated&start=0
[09:39] <croraf> the ordering should be from most recently created downwards. But it shows 4, 9, 286, 11, 58... days old. How come this 286 came here...
[10:47] <HayashiEsme> Hello can everyone see this?
[10:48] <tatertotz> no
[10:48] <HayashiEsme> Legend, thanks. Sorting out my IRC client
[11:15] <unimatrix9> hello all
[11:16] <unimatrix9> i was wondering if there is a nice "official" video about the 20.04 ubuntu desktop that i can show to a large audience
[11:20] <unimatrix9> any tips are more then welcome
[11:20] <unimatrix9> does canonical not have such promotion material ?
[11:22] <davison> I'm looking for advice installing a GPU on ubuntu. We have a server which has been iffy, and no matter which version of nvidia-drivers I install, fail to get a display signal over HDMI. No displays out from the motherboard, only the gpus.
[11:22] <davison> lspci shows nothing. nvidia-smi shows nothing.
[11:23] <davison> currently only have access over ssh
[11:35] <unimatrix9> i am no expert, so keep asking your question davison, but what i could think of is removing all nvidia drivers and try nouveau, ( unless you got an nvidia network card as well )
[11:37] <lotuspsychje> unimatrix9: there was such a video once, but a short ubuntu vid in the linux dir, but they removed that since a long time
[11:37] <EriC^^> davison: maybe the gpu isnt connected properly? it should at least show in lspci to start with driver/troubleshooting
[11:38] <unimatrix9> true EriC^^, good point
[11:58] <bharsh2608> Hey there everyone my name is Harsh . I am currently trying to install ubuntu 20.04.1 LTS on virtual machine . I am using windows 10 as my main OS. I am having problems while installing ubuntu, it always show that "Ubuntu has experienced an internal error. PS: I have previously used and installed the Ubuntu 20.04 LTS on Virtual machine before
[11:58] <bharsh2608> (around 15th May) and it worked fine at that time. Also when the download of ubuntu starts automatically it show "Not Found
[12:14] <jelly> hi, Remmina in 18.04 cannot grab keyboard and mouse (they remain ungrabbed even when that button is pressed).  How do I send Ctrl-Alt-Delete to the remote RDP session?
[12:15]  * jelly tries xfreerdp instead
[12:15] <Sbur3> I can't understand why, when I speak into my microphone to record my voice, I can talk with a bass voice and it comes out sounding like Pee Wee Herman.
[12:16] <Sbur3> What am I doing wrong?
[12:18] <Sbur3> H?
[12:18] <Sbur3> Hello
[12:21] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[12:34]  * jelly tries remmina from snap.
[12:52] <CDuv_> Hello, Using Ubuntu 20.04 I want to upgrade my kernel to v5.7 (for AMD Graphics Renoir): are there any signed kernel over https://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/?
[12:55] <j`ey> anyone have experience with ubuntu server and rpi4 / network-config? Mine doesnt connect via wifi
[12:55] <j`ey> I connected w/ ethernet, and I see that wpa_supplicant is running, is network-config meant to drive wpa_supplicant somehow, should I be using both or just one?
[12:56] <waveform> j`ey, is this the first boot?
[12:56] <j`ey> yeah
[12:57] <waveform> j`ey, okay - run "sudo netplan apply" and the wifi *should* connect; there's a known issue in netplan (or possibly cloud-init - there's some argument over where the fix should go) that causes the wifi config to fail to apply on the initial boot
[12:57] <j`ey> nice
[12:57] <j`ey> someone should update the guide
[12:58] <j`ey> ok, I should just reboot now then?
[12:58] <waveform> just sudo netplan apply should do the trick; you shouldn't need to do it on subsequent boots
[12:59] <waveform> and if you simply reboot without "sudo netplan apply" first it should work anyway
[12:59] <j`ey> ok, well ive rebooted, lets see if it comes online
[13:01] <j`ey> I'll wait another minute
[13:01] <j`ey> but it doesn't look like it's connecting
[13:04] <waveform> j`ey, in that case I'd suspect an issue with the wifi configuration - probably worth checking syslog / journalctl for anything wifi related
[13:06] <j`ey> ok, I'll have a look
[13:09] <j`ey> waveform: why does journalctrl have entries that are clearly not from my computer lol
[13:09] <thelounge7130> I'm attempting to enable an NTP server on my ubuntu box so my LAN devices can use it as NTP, but when I attempt to enable the service, it says it's masked. Is this something I generally shouldn't enable? Or should I try and run ntp some other way?
[13:09] <j`ey> "Logs begin at Wed 2020-04-01"
[13:11] <tuxinator> hi everybody
[13:11] <luna_> hi
[13:11] <tuxinator> somebody else having issues with repository key verification at the moment?
[13:11] <tuxinator> from inside containers on on gitlab?
[13:13] <j`ey> waveform: anyway in syslog I can see that my wlan0 intrface isnt up
[13:14] <waveform> j`ey, remember the Pi has no RTC (unless you attach one), so the h/w clock starts at 1970-01-01; systemd then uses a file-system timestamp to set things to a "best guess" of a current time (2020-04-01) before the networking is up, then eventually once networking comes up timesyncd / ntp should eventually get a more accurate timestamp
[13:14] <j`ey> oh I see
[13:15] <j`ey> waveform: but yeah, wlan isnt up, that's what I see after cloud-init
[13:17] <j`ey> triple checked network-config has the right ssid/pass
[13:18] <tuxinator> does anybody find keys on keyserver.ubuntu.com ? either i am incapable or it is not giving results
[13:22] <CDuv_> Do I have to sign kernels if I want kernel v5.5+ on Ubuntu 20.04?
[13:23] <CDuv_> (and using SecureBoot)
[13:29] <j`ey> looks like netplan is taking stuff from /etc, not the boot partitions network-config?
[13:30] <waveform> j`ey, the network-config on the boot partition is copied to /etc/netplan/something.yaml so the latter is the "real" config, the former is only used on the first boot
[13:31] <j`ey> oh..
[13:31] <j`ey> well that would have been good to know
[13:31] <j`ey> that file has "Changes to it will not persist across an instance reboot" in it
[13:31] <j`ey> which to me, says not to modify that file
[13:32] <j`ey> waveform: if I just delete the one in /etc, will it recopy?
[13:32] <waveform> j`ey, I don't believe so
[13:33] <j`ey> ugh
[13:33] <waveform> j`ey, though you can use "sudo cloud-init clean --reboot" to have cloud-init reboot and re-run its setup which should re-copy it
[13:33] <j`ey> ok lets try that
[13:35] <j`ey> waveform: ok dunno what that did, but it also cleared out the password and sshkey
[13:38] <j`ey> waveform: thanks, that finally worked
[13:38] <Sven_vB> hi :) are ip-rule and iptables equivalent?
[13:53] <j`ey> if I want to disable auto upgrades, do I need to edit /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/20auto-upgrades and disable the systemd unit, or is th latter enough?
[13:53] <Sven_vB> from man 8 ip-route it seems to me that ip-rule has just a subset of the options. it seems to have NAT though. so can I use that to forward traffic for incomming connections on one port to a webserver on another host?
[13:54] <Sven_vB> j`ey, I'd disable just the timer unit
[13:55] <Sven_vB> j`ey, however in my case I like to at least check for updates, albeit on another schedule
[13:55] <j`ey> or maybe I can just uninstall it completely
[13:56] <Sven_vB> yes I think the package is update-manager-core
[14:05] <fimbul_> Hey guys, I know I can `touch /home/myUser/.hushlogin` to make the MOTD disappear. Thing is, I don't want it to go away, is there a "message of the month" or whatever?
[14:05] <fimbul_> The information it gives is useful, just not every day
[14:06] <j`ey> uh, I thought that systemctl disable would stop a servic until I reenabled it? yet it's starting on boot
[14:09] <j`ey> ok, I need to mask it, but would be nice to know what is starting it anyway (snapd)
[14:12] <nbusrone> How do I update gnome version  ?  current version gnome-shell --version
[14:12] <nbusrone> GNOME Shell 3.28.4
[14:14] <dedondesta> is service apache2 reload the save as apachectl -k graceful
[14:14] <dedondesta> ?
[14:14] <dedondesta> the same*
[14:16] <OiYouYeahYou> hihi
[14:57] <cthulchu|> hey folks, I'm trying to figure what wakes my laptop. I'm in /proc/acpi/wakeup What is EHC and XHC?
[14:57] <cthulchu|> and RP
[14:59] <Maimster> Hi everyone, I'm doing an upgrade from 16.04 to 18.04 anyone see any real major difference?
[15:01] <FourDollars> The desktop environment becomes GNOME shell from Unity.
[15:02] <Maimster> FourDollars: Cool, I'm not using either. Using XFCE
[15:02] <Maimster> FourDollars: Guess I can always reinstall it.
[15:03] <Maimster> ls
[17:04] <hjxzfkc> Hi. I was looking to install Ubuntu encrypted with LUKS with dual-boot on my  ThinkPad by following https://askubuntu.com/a/293029 or https://www.mikekasberg.com/blog/2020/04/08/dual-boot-ubuntu-and-windows-with-encryption.html by Mike Kasberg. The issue I noticed now was that "The Lenovo BIOS WMI interface currently only supports enabling UEFI
[17:04] <hjxzfkc> with Secure Boot. Enabling UEFI without Secure Boot or with the Compatibility Support Module(CSM) is not supported" . How can I work around this and still install Ubuntu encrypted with LUKS with dual-boot? Mike for instance in the tutorial said "I disabled Secure Boot. I’m not sure if this is absolutely required, and you can try leaving it on or
[17:04] <hjxzfkc> re-enabling it when you’re done if you want." Many others too have noted that disabling secure boot is needed. Thank you.
[17:05] <javi404> so is there some problems with ubuntu 20.04.1 live iso?
[17:05] <hjxzfkc> What do you mean, javi404 ?
[17:06] <javi404> hjxzfkc: corruption on first install using virtio disk adapter in virtualbox
[17:06] <javi404> so then switched to LSI Logic SAS virtual storage adapter, and failed midway
[17:06] <hjxzfkc> Ah, you are asking a question to your problem?
[17:06] <hjxzfkc> I thought you were trying to help me, sorry
[17:06] <javi404> checked the underlying system smartctl, fsck, etc to make sure it wasn't a real hardware problem under the hood
[17:06] <javi404> yeah sorry
[17:07] <javi404> but posting all this to see if someone knows
[17:07] <javi404> redownloading isos and will md5 verify so let's see where this goes.
[17:09] <javi404> hjxzfkc: what is your issue?
[17:09] <javi404> maybe i can help
[17:09] <javi404> you are installing on a lenovo?
[17:09] <hjxzfkc> Yes
[17:10] <hjxzfkc> I am trying to install Ubuntu to dual boot windows and ubuntu install
[17:10] <hjxzfkc> Want to encrypt Ubuntu using LUKS
[17:10] <javi404> dual booting is icky IMHO
[17:10] <javi404> question, why not run windows in a VM?
[17:10] <javi404> or run ubuntu in a vm on windows.
[17:11] <javi404> just because things get hairy sometimes with the boot managers etc, grub, windows, things tend to break.
[17:11] <hjxzfkc> The guides say that Secure Boot needs to be disabled to succeed in setup but  The Lenovo BIOS WMI interface currently only supports enabling UEFI with Secure Boot. Enabling UEFI without Secure Boot or with the Compatibility Support Module(CSM) is not supported.
[17:11] <javi404> and add encryption to the mix, more hairy.
[17:11] <javi404> hjxzfkc: what guide is this?
[17:12] <hjxzfkc> https://askubuntu.com/a/293029
[17:12] <hjxzfkc> https://www.mikekasberg.com/blog/2020/04/08/dual-boot-ubuntu-and-windows-with-encryption.html
[17:12] <RonWhoCaresHP520> How do I get this lpr command to execute instead of having the output being "usage" @  https://pastebin.com/CKxGpbwY
[17:12] <hjxzfkc> "I disabled Secure Boot.""Disable secure boot "
[17:13] <hjxzfkc> All seem to suggest secure boot needs to be disabled
[17:13] <leftyfb> RonWhoCaresHP520: what version of ubuntu?
[17:13] <RonWhoCaresHP520> 20.04 studio
[17:13] <RonWhoCaresHP520> leftyfb:  20.04 studio
[17:16] <RonWhoCaresHP520> leftyfb: Line 1 executes in 18.04 just fine but not 20.40 studio
[17:17] <javi404> hjxzfkc: that is in the bios
[17:17] <javi404> to disable secure boot
[17:17] <hjxzfkc> Yes, but The Lenovo BIOS WMI interface currently only supports enabling UEFI with Secure Boot.
[17:17] <javi404> in that case, if you disable UEFI, you break windows booting
[17:17] <leftyfb> RonWhoCaresHP520: read the man page for lpr
[17:18] <javi404> assuming it is enabled now
[17:18] <leftyfb> RonWhoCaresHP520: compare that with how you're calling it
[17:18] <hjxzfkc> So any way to dual boot Ubuntu with LUKS and Windows 10 on Thinkpad?
[17:19] <javi404> hjxzfkc: possibly not
[17:19] <javi404> with virtualization, the days of dual booting are not worth it IMHO
[17:19] <hjxzfkc> For reference https://help.1e.com/display/B2U14/Support+on+Lenovo+systems
[17:19] <javi404> hjxzfkc: what OS will you use most?
[17:19] <hjxzfkc> Both :(
[17:20] <javi404> well if it's 50/50 % each, virtualize windows.
[17:20] <javi404> put ubuntu on the hardware
[17:20] <javi404> then all are encrypted
[17:20] <javi404> use something like macrium reflect to image windows or acronis or something, you can restore it to a vm later.
[17:21] <javi404> but i would re install
[17:22] <hjxzfkc> Why do the guides suggest disabling secure boot when dual booting Windows and Ubuntu (with LUKS) ??
[17:23] <javi404> hjxzfkc: a question for the devs at ubuntu
[17:24] <hjxzfkc> Where can I ask such a question? On Ubuntu's github?
[17:24] <tomreyn> hjxzfkc: you can have an encrypted ubuntu installation next to a windows installation (probably also if that's encrypted, too), but it's not an installation scenario the default desktop installer covers. you'd need to install windows first, then make (unpartitioned) room for ubuntu, then install using the ubuntu server installer.
[17:25] <tomreyn> hjxzfkc: you can later install the "ubuntu-desktop" package and start using network-manager for network configuration
[17:25] <hjxzfkc> tomreyn Thanks, do you know why the guides suggested disabling secure boot when dual booting Windows and Ubuntu (with LUKS)  ?
[17:26] <tomreyn> hjxzfkc: secure boot adds a lot of complexity, lots that can go wrong. but i don't see why it couldn'T work.
[17:27] <hjxzfkc> https://www.mikekasberg.com/blog/2020/04/08/dual-boot-ubuntu-and-windows-with-encryption.html and https://askubuntu.com/a/293029/1119932 both need me to partition for Ubuntu
[17:27] <javi404> hjxzfkc: the complexity part, and lots can go wrong, exactly why I am suggesting virtualizing windows or ubuntu if they need to be on the same machine, then you can use both at once.
[17:27] <leftyfb> tomreyn: the mini.iso installer is also an option which gives the option of installing ubuntu-desktop during install time
[17:30] <hjxzfkc> And why ubuntu server and not ubuntu desktop?
[17:31] <hjxzfkc> Also could I follow https://www.mikekasberg.com/blog/2020/04/08/dual-boot-ubuntu-and-windows-with-encryption.html and make it work with having secure boot enabled?
[17:33] <tomreyn> leftyfb: i was thinking mini.iso is no more?
[17:34] <tomreyn> ah, it was just moved to 'legacy'
[17:35] <hjxzfkc> Could you answer by previous q?
[17:35] <lotuspsychje> !who | hjxzfkc
[17:36] <leftyfb> tomreyn: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/focal-updates/main/installer-amd64/current/legacy-images/netboot/mini.iso
[17:36] <leftyfb> yeah, tricky
[17:36] <tomreyn> leftyfb: hehe, i was just about to post this, too
[17:36] <tomreyn> focal-*updates* matters
[17:37] <hjxzfkc> tomreyn could I follow https://www.mikekasberg.com/blog/2020/04/08/dual-boot-ubuntu-and-windows-with-encryption.html and make it work with having secure boot enabled?
[17:38] <tomreyn> hjxzfkc: javi has a point about virtualization, if that's an option in your use case. // i suggested ubuntu *server* (or mini.iso) because the desktop installer would want to delete a full disk when setting up dmcrypt-luks, i think.
[17:39] <hjxzfkc> Oh, no I would not do that, I would mostly run things from terminal - see https://www.mikekasberg.com/blog/2020/04/08/dual-boot-ubuntu-and-windows-with-encryption.html
[17:40] <hjxzfkc> Or https://askubuntu.com/a/293029 tomreyn
[17:40] <leftyfb> hjxzfkc: you've posted that same link 6 times in 30 minutes. We get the link, you don't need to post it anymor
[17:40] <hjxzfkc> Could i follow these for dual boot with secure boot enabled and will it work?
[17:41] <leftyfb> hjxzfkc: as you noticed already, neither of those links tell you how to install ubuntu on a system with secure boot enabled. You'll need to find other tutorials for that. It's not pretty and not worth the effort
[17:43] <tomreyn> hjxzfkc: the askubuntu.com post is from pre-uefi times, thus also not handling 'secure boot'
[17:44] <tomreyn> ah, i'm late to point this out. ;)
[17:44] <hjxzfkc> the mike hasberg link is from 2020?
[17:45] <jmw> Where can I find the public keys for Canonical's secure boot signing? The key for grub was updated from "Canonical Ltd. Secure Boot Signing" to "Canonical Ltd. Secure Boot Signing (2017)" in the focal 1.142.4+2.04-1ubuntu26.2 version and broke my box. Unbelievable they would rotate the key in the middle of a LTS cycle when the key isn't expiring for decades.
[17:48] <tomreyn> jmw: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UEFI/SecureBoot/KeyManagement/ImageSigning
[17:48] <tomreyn> also https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UEFI/SecureBoot and related documentation
[17:49] <tomreyn> and i bet there were very good reasons to introduce new key material
[17:49] <jmw> I scoured those pages already, but I can't find the .pem files for the certificates to download
[17:50] <hjxzfkc> https://www.mikekasberg.com/blog/2020/04/08/dual-boot-ubuntu-and-windows-with-encryption.html is from 2020, and not  from pre-uefi times tomreyn
[17:50] <hjxzfkc> would this with secure boot enabled work?
[17:54] <tomreyn> hjxzfkc: it doesn't seem so, but i didn't read much of this article so maybe i missed something. i do assume you are able to read it on your own, though.
[17:55] <hjxzfkc> So maybe this dual boot luks thing on thinkpad is impossible?
[17:55] <tomreyn> jmw: if you can still not find them, maybe ask in #ubuntu-hardened
[17:58] <Jordan_U> hjxzfkc: I can see no reason why https://www.mikekasberg.com/blog/2020/04/08/dual-boot-ubuntu-and-windows-with-encryption.html , or most other options for dual booting with Windows and LUKS encrypted Ubuntu, should not work with secure boot.
[17:59] <jmw> tomreyn: thanks
[18:27] <malwar3hun73r> is php 7.3 in official ubuntu 18.04 lts repos?
[18:29] <tomreyn> malwar3hun73r: you can find this out quite easily by visiting https://packages.ubuntu.com
[18:29] <genii> 7.2 is, but not 7,3
[18:30] <malwar3hun73r> yeah, that was my finding... is there a reason 7.3 is not there? hasn't 7.2 been EOL'd
[18:31] <tomreyn> ubuntu backports security patches
[18:31] <tomreyn> and crafts their own if needed.
[18:31] <tomreyn> !latest
[18:32] <malwar3hun73r> understood, but php3 was released in 2018
[18:33] <malwar3hun73r> ... 7.3
[18:34] <systest> can someone point me to the system that provides access to the video device, i.e. camera?  e.g. pulse provides access to the audio devices, what's the equivalent for video?
[18:35] <tomreyn> !discuss | malwar3hun73r
[18:39] <tomreyn> systest: for video *capture* devices, video4linux (v4l) is usually used (i think, but this info may be outdated)
[18:41] <Jordan_U> systest: tomreyn is correct, and there is also v4l2: https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/v4.9/media/uapi/v4l/v4l2.html . What are you trying to accomplish?
[18:41] <systest> tomreyn, thanks.  don't think that's the case anymore.  at least, I don't see a service running I would associate with that
[18:42] <systest> Jordan_U, i want a second account to be able to access the capture device from within the primary account's GUI session
[18:43] <systest> I could add that user to the video group but that's ugly as heck.  It's simple on the audio side, I just have the primary user grant access via pulse then have the secondary user point the pulse client to the demon run by the primary
[18:44] <systest> e.g. Login as user "P" then spawn firefox as user "S" and run Google Meet or Zoom
[18:45] <racquad> Hi guys. Does anyone have any experience on restoring a MySQL database from the MYD files?
[18:46] <Jordan_U> systest: Why do you consider adding the user to the video group to be an ugly hack? For an analog to pulseaudio for video (and actually, for audio too), you might look into pipewire: https://pipewire.org/ you might also want to look into v4l2loopback, to create secondary virtual devices based on the first video device.
[18:48] <systest> Jordan_U, it's a hack becuase it's controlled at the root level and is global.  using the pulse example, the logged in user can decide to grant access to the secondary user.  doesn't require a system level change and disappears when the primary logs out (and the pulseaudio daemon dies)
[18:49] <lotuspsychje> racquad: maybe the #httpd channel might know that
[18:52] <mort> well
[18:52] <mort> https://p.mort.coffee/nVI.png gnome has grown a bit
[18:52] <mort> this is on a 27" 1440p display, that top bar is gigantic
[18:52] <javi404> what interface is flannel1:1 for ?
[18:53] <javi404> this is fresh server install of 10.04.1
[18:53] <lotuspsychje> mort: its a known mutter bug
[18:53] <Jordan_U> systest: It sounds like if you want to get something to work with the least amount of effort, then the audio group is the way to go. If you want to spend time learning a lot and working with newer standards to get something that works exactly the way you want, then pipewire is the way to go. Off the top of my head, I would expect pipewire to work with applications that use gstreamer and similar
[18:53] <Jordan_U> abastractions, but not applications that use the v4l2 API directly. That may not be true, it's just my best guess.
[18:53] <mort> lotuspsychje: interesting, any workaround?
[18:53] <lotuspsychje> mort: bug #1892521
[18:54] <lotuspsychje> mort: not yet, devs are prob working on it
[18:54] <mort> aight
[18:55] <mort> also, it seems like the system has lag spikes now? Sometimes, especially when I get notifications, it just sort of skips a few frames
[18:55] <systest> Jordan_U, fair enough and thanks for the input.  Would still like to know how, for example, how the primary user can access the capture device when it's not root or in the video group
[18:55] <lotuspsychje> mort: try a journalctl -f to see whats happening to your system in realtime, maybe also htop
[18:56] <mort> will do
[18:57] <mort> I would kind of have expected a huge bug like this to be rolled back to the last known good gnome though
[18:58] <mort> ah, it's not a bug which affects everyone, just users of the proprietary nvidia driver
[18:58] <mort> fwiw, https://askubuntu.com/questions/1269090/ubuntu-20-04-interface-font-too-small-after-restart-even-with-high-scaling-fact/1269431#1269431's "enable and disable enlarged text" workaround worked (presumably until the next reboot)
[19:13] <Jordan_U> systest: I would guess that it has something to do with being a user that is physically at the keyboard / monitor. I expect that if you tried to login via ssh -X from another machine you would not have permission to open the video device, but that would be a good test to try.
[19:15] <systest> well, even the primary user wouldn't have access.  something get's started along with the gui session.  e.g. I can't ssh from another system and access the sound devices because pulse audio doesn't get started
[19:24] <gdalusr> why is it "libgeos-dev" for development, but "libgeos-some_specific_version" for non development, instead of "libgeos" ?
[19:34] <gdalusr> join #ubuntu-development
[19:40] <Maik> gdalusr: is that your own channel? Because there's already a channel called #ubuntu-dev for development
[19:41] <Maik> or maybe you're just poking fun :)
[19:42] <Maik> make that -devel not -dev
[19:44] <croraf__> Why is my bug incomplete: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1892714
[19:47] <Maik> croraf__: that's from 7 hours ago they'll change it once they checked the whole thread
[20:02] <omnisip> are there any default settings spots where the window manager handles mouse events?
[20:06] <systest> Jordan_U, FWIW, think it's done with PolicyKit associating the device to seat0, i.e. you're correct that it has something to do with being at the device.  It temporally attaches the device to the user that's logged in at "seat0"
[20:15] <croraf__> Maik, thx
[20:47] <blscoe> Hi community. I have a question about gEdit: Is possible when text is bottom screen move to top, like clear screen on terminal?
[20:49] <matsaman> blscoe: but without clearing the text?
[20:49] <blscoe> yes
[20:49] <blscoe> only move
[20:49] <matsaman> that's probably HOME or CTRL+HOME
[20:50] <matsaman> in Vim you would only have to press 'g' twice ('gg')
[20:53] <blscoe> no no, I don't want to move. I have a visual effect. Look, when you open a new document in Gedit the first line is on top to screen and exist a big white space empty, when you start write lines appears, but when you are in botton in screen you always in there, in vim you can press Page Down and all text move to out to screen and the last line is at
[20:53] <blscoe> the top
[20:54] <matsaman> ah
[20:54] <blscoe> similar when to pres Ctrl + L on terminal
[20:55] <matsaman> not sure you might ask a gedit or gnome specific channel
[20:55] <matsaman> I know Geany has a 'stop scrolling at last line' feature that
[20:55] <matsaman> you can disable, and allow the last line to be at the top of the screen
[20:56] <matsaman> geany is scintilla based, so potentially any scintilla based editor has the same feature; not sure
[20:56] <blscoe> "stop scrolling at last line", really? wehre?
[20:56] <matsaman> it's in geany's prefs somewhere
[20:56] <matsaman> geany, not gedit
[20:56] <blscoe> or geany
[20:57] <blscoe> maybe whit dconf editor?
[20:58] <matsaman> maybe
[21:00] <Rower> supports, offered on irc, for real xD woa!
[21:01] <mave_> amazing!
[21:01] <Rower> baziinga!
[21:01] <Rower> anyone having a good gui drag and drop program for python?
[21:02] <Rower> i loved the one found in java, but java makes developing not fun xD
[21:03] <blscoe> @Rower IDLE python
[21:06] <Rower> LoL
[21:07] <blscoe> matsaman I found this: https://github.com/hardpixel/gedit-scroll-past
[21:11] <matsaman> blscoe: cool
[21:23] <jwash> does anyone know how to rotate the far right monitor? https://hastebin.com/inukopavov.m
[21:25] <iogui> jwash: I think that you need to provide more info about your system in order for someone to be able to help
[21:26] <jwash> nvidia gtx960, nvidia driver from ppa
[21:27] <jwash> see the syntax, it's the nvidia-settings syntax
[21:28] <jwash> pretty specific
[22:17] <gbellinoz> anybody know why au.archive.ubuntu.com is down?
[22:28] <Bashing-om> gbe au. is up now :D
[22:28] <Bashing-om> gbellinoz: au. is up now :D
[22:29] <gbellinoz> Yep! Down for at least 30 minutes. Never happens!
[22:31] <Bashing-om> gbellinoz: Fo not know - but maybe switch to https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+mirror/mirror.aarnet.edu.au-archive ? which appears that au.archive.ubuntu.com switches too ?
[22:31] <Bashing-om> Do Not know *
[22:39] <cart_man> Anybody know what happened to the GCS Channel that was on here?
[22:41] <matsaman> cart_man: on where?
[22:41] <matsaman> oh ehre
[22:41] <matsaman> here, even
[22:41] <matsaman> looks like it's still here
[22:44] <cart_man> matsaman: Yea but its completely dead
[22:44] <cart_man> Anybody even compiled Protobufs for Ubuntu and got weird linking and shared lib issues? My Errors on CentOS are different from the ones on UBUNTU
[22:44] <cart_man> sigh
[22:47] <matsaman> cart_man: what's it even for?
[22:47] <cart_man> matsaman: Protobufs?
[22:47] <matsaman> 'GCS'
[22:47] <cart_man> Its a transport layer
[22:48] <cart_man> matsaman: Ohh...hmm .. package maintaining etc
[22:48] <cart_man> for Ubuntu/Debian
[22:48] <matsaman> what does it stand for
[22:49] <cart_man> GiddyCarcasSteroids
[22:49] <matsaman> ...uhuh
[22:58] <davido_> When a bug report gets listed as Fix Released, does that mean that if I have 'for any new version' and 'display immediately' set, I should see the fix install with the next apt update && apt full-upgrade?
[23:19] <arooni> about to move from Description:    Ubuntu 18.04.5 LTS to 20.04.1 anything to keep in mind prior?