 @Paul JL [I'm just interested in a UT that will run on the T-Mobile network. I'll look aro …], OnePlus One, Nexus 5 or Sony Xperia X will work well with T-mobile.
[01:05] <ubptgbot> <Karl Kelso> @Marathon2422 [The app  Brax.Me  is his work also iOS android and ubports], Thank you
 (Photo, 1280x720) https://irc.ubports.com/8oysk9qe.png Lomiri on Debian
 Cool!
 How did you install it?
 @Paul JL [Listening to you guys talk makes me think this whole thing is over my head. I re …], I agree since the planet is aiming the same path as in China in the near future.. It will be a hard battle
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 Hi team... I'm from India. Not an IT person, but willing to explore Ubuntu Touch... Can anybody guide me pls...
 @mrConLenov [<reply to media>], Is it based on current packaging work?
 @Just_b_uuuuu [Hi team... I'm from India. Not an IT person, but willing to explore Ubuntu Touch …], Do you have a UT device? What exactly do you want guidance for?
 I have Windows10 PC...
 And 2 Android devices...
 I want to adapt to Ubuntu and learn..
[09:48] <ubptgbot> <Boris Mihailov> Are those android devices supported by UT? … Also I'm not sure if the UBports installer works on Win10, you might need to use a Linux distro with Snap support
 No...
 You can port them yourself though if there isn't a community port
 @Boris Mihailov [Are those android devices supported by UT? … Also I'm not sure if the UBports inst …], Okay then... I can install Ubuntu on my PC..
 I will get back once I start the process on my PC..
 @Just_b_uuuuu [I want to adapt to Ubuntu and learn..], Ubuntu (desktop distro) is not really the same as Ubuntu Touch (Smartphone distro). Ubuntu Touch is just based on Ubuntu.
 Okay..
 Of course you can install Ubuntu on your PC, which is out of scope for this group.
 I want to use Ubuntu in my smartphone..
 If you want to install Ubuntu Touch on one of your smartphones, you need to check whether they are supported: https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io/
 If not, you could try to port them yourself, which might be a lot of work and a lot of learning involved.
 @jonny [If you want to install Ubuntu Touch on one of your smartphones, you need to chec …], Great let me check...
 @jonny [If not, you could try to port them yourself, which might be a lot of work and a …], Oh okay...
 If you are interested in porting, see http://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/porting/introduction.html and join @ubports_porting.
 I just joined...
 G B: Be warned though! Make sure you have the Windows installation media with yourself, if you would want to go back to Windows (which I doubt :-)), the thing you can do is extract the Windows' wim image with wimlib, install the Windows bootloader with ms-sys, but you cannot go further! AFAIK, there are no bootloaders supporting
[09:54] <ubptgbot>  to normally boot Windows without chainloading to the Windows bootloader
 @jonny [If you want to install Ubuntu Touch on one of your smartphones, you need to chec …], My devices are not in the list..
 @TigranKhachatryan [G B: Be warned though! Make sure you have the Windows installation media with yo …], Ohhh...
 I made a note of it.. Thanks..
 So I think you should dual boot instead of overwriting Windows, to do that, create a new partition without formatting it to NTFS, for that, right click This PC, click manage, go to disk partitioning or such, right click on your C drive, open calculator and for example if you want to give it 200 GB, write 200*1024, then write the
[09:56] <ubptgbot>  result in the part where it asks how much would you like to shrink (204800), then you would remember it's size
 and when the setup will ask where would you like to install you would choose that new partition you made and be prompted where would you like to boot every time you turn on your computer
 But if you think you can say bye to Windows, it's worth it!
 @TigranKhachatryan [But if you think you can say bye to Windows, it's worth it!], For now i don't think so... But soon I will..
 @TigranKhachatryan [So I think you should dual boot instead of overwriting Windows, to do that, crea …], I will start the process soon and keep in touch with you for any further clarity..
 Thank you very much all...
 👍
 ❤️
 @Danfro [I got one report from our German group where I shared the links stating that the …], Hey @Danfro Do you know if this issue has been fixed with Teleports v0.8.1?
 @mymike00 [Hey @Danfro Do you know if this issue has been fixed with Teleports v0.8.1?], Uhm, I don't remember what this post was about. Only with Teleports currently I can not search for it. And I think it is too old for me to scroll back through history.
 Whats the difference between the update channels..?
 @mymike00 [Hey @Danfro Do you know if this issue has been fixed with Teleports v0.8.1?], i'm on TelePorts 0.8.1 and i don't encounter this bug (open chat, start typing, lose text ) also can't remember seeing this in previous version
 @YougoChats [i'm on TelePorts 0.8.1 and i don't encounter this bug (open chat, start typing, …], I'm having somethinf like that
 On latest teleports
[11:57] <ubptgbot> <Boris Mihailov> @geekyneo [Whats the difference between the update channels..?], OTA updates usually follow this rhythm: … devel: daily builds … rc: weekly if no critical issue exists in the devel channel … stable: every six through eight weeks, if no critical issue exists in the rc channel
 @mrcyjanek [I'm having somethinf like that], The original bug was to create a draft, go out go in again, edit drafot go out go in... until it breaks
 @Flohack [The original bug was to create a draft, go out go in again, edit drafot go out g …], well.., don't do that 😝
 @Flohack [The original bug was to create a draft, go out go in again, edit drafot go out g …], Oh, okay. For me text wipes after typing few words sometimes
 @mrcyjanek [Oh, okay. For me text wipes after typing few words sometimes], thats a different bug then
 @YougoChats [well.., don't do that 😝], Well it could happen already the first time you did a draft, it was a race condition, totally unpredictable
 @Boris Mihailov [OTA updates usually follow this rhythm: … devel: daily builds … rc: weekly if no cr …], Thanks. … I just installed ubports on and old OnePlus One. Should I switch to develop..? … Wifi had suddenly  disappeared and the device was having a sudden power drop, after I had opened youtube via browser.
 @geekyneo [Thanks. … I just installed ubports on and old OnePlus One. Should I switch to dev …], No, stable should be fine
 @Flohack [No, stable should be fine], Thanks a lot.
 @Flohack [Well it could happen already the first time you did a draft, it was a race condi …], ok. went back and forth, closed the app, edited on desktop telegram and back to phone, no problem.  … if it happens to some people, maybe it's because of external problem, like hiccups in the data connection causing miscommunication with the
[12:14] <ubptgbot> telegram server?
 @YougoChats [ok. went back and forth, closed the app, edited on desktop telegram and back to …], All possible, but then its a new bug, and not the one we closed ;) thats all I am saying.
 @mrcyjanek [Oh, okay. For me text wipes after typing few words sometimes], i found the OSH's auto correct to be too agressive (especially when you type in multiple languages and forget/dont want to switch language often, so i disabled it. maybe that helps for you too
 @mrcyjanek [Oh, okay. For me text wipes after typing few words sometimes], [Edit] i found the OSK's auto correct to be too agressive (especially when you type in multiple languages and forget/dont want to switch language often, so i disabled it. maybe that helps for you too
 @YougoChats [i found the OSK's auto correct to be too agressive (especially when you type in …], I have autocorrect disabled, but suggestions remains on.
 try switching that off too (shouldn't cause the problem but you never know)
 @YougoChats [try switching that off too (shouldn't cause the problem but you never know)], Okay I'll check that
 @Flohack [No, stable should be fine], Can one install snap apps on ubports..?
 @geekyneo [Can one install snap apps on ubports..?], No
 @Flohack [No], Okies.. Thanks.
 Just updated to newest dev build xD
 First ota I've done btw
 @mymike00 [Hey @Danfro Do you know if this issue has been fixed with Teleports v0.8.1?], Ah, if my post was about the draft issue, sadly I had it once again.
[13:30] <ubptgbot> <Boris Mihailov> For some reason 'adb root' fails on my Xperia X. After a reboot I can access adb again, but not after. Can somebody help me with that?
 I don't think `adb root` is something we support on UT.
 probably not, the same as we don't support `adb install` or `adb sideload`
 Is adb shell supported?
 yes
 Oh didn't know I can use adb
 but it's not a particularly good shell
 ssh is way better to use if you want to actually use remote CLI stuff
 Better than nothing
 Oh okay
[13:44] <ubptgbot> <Boris Mihailov> @fredldotme [I don't think adb root is something we support on UT.], Huh, so then the build instructions need to be updated. :) … Nvm
 @Boris Mihailov [Huh, so then the build instructions need to be updated. :) … Nvm], Which build instructions?
[13:46] <ubptgbot> <Boris Mihailov> @fredldotme [Which build instructions?], https://github.com/ubports/keyboard-component/blob/xenial/buildOnDevice.sh
 hmm, if that ever worked it was probably an extremely long time ago.
 to build on device, you really should do it inside a libertine container
[13:51] <ubptgbot> <Boris Mihailov> And we don't support libertine yet on the Xperia X, so, fun again
[13:51] <ubptgbot> <Boris Mihailov> Will find a way
 Have you tried lately? This PR has been merged: https://github.com/ubports/libertine/pull/79
 And yes, that should have enabled Libertine
[13:53] <ubptgbot> <Boris Mihailov> Oh, will try now
[14:54] <ubptgbot> Jangan Marah Manis was added by: Jangan Marah Manis
[15:02] <ubptgbot> <Boris Mihailov> @fredldotme [And yes, that should have enabled Libertine], Yeap, it works. Yaay :) … I'll try anbox now :)
 I've tried Anbox and it does work 😄 Tried in armfh only though
[15:09] <ubptgbot> <Boris Mihailov> Well fingers crossed for arm64 now :D
 I want to make the scaling on my Xperia x smaller but it seems that it makes bottom gestures hard to trigger i.e. Morph … I did not notice this before on my othere devices..hmmm...
[15:22] <ubptgbot> <Boris Mihailov> Ive changed my scaing but mind you, never used it on default so I guess I never got used to that one
 do you now have 4 columns in the app drawer? … I usually make the scaling smaller because the default ones is usually for old people JK 😂 … but it s the first I notice this behavior
 not sure of it's just really like or it's something with the hardware of xperia x
[15:36] <ubptgbot> <Boris Mihailov> Yeap, 4 col
 @Javacookies [do you now have 4 columns in the app drawer? … I usually make the scaling smaller …], I get mine to 5 columns!
 that's too small 😄
[15:47] <ubptgbot> <Boris Mihailov> ^too small for old people I guess :D
 I'm trying 20gu on my xperia x now and I think the keyboard is too small. The UI is kinda fine though
 the UI is fine but the keyboard's height is too small....maybe it's time to implement customizable height in the keyboard? 😄
 this weird, bottom gestures does work fine with 20gu but not 21gu...probably a problem with odd numbered scaling?
 [Edit] this is weird, bottom gestures does work fine with 20gu but not 21gu...probably a problem with odd numbered scaling?
 @Javacookies [this is weird, bottom gestures does work fine with 20gu but not 21gu...probably …], Easy enough to test by also  going to 18, 19, and 22 and seeing what happens
 I tried a few and it looks like the issue only happens in 21 GU...this is my ideal scaling damn it 😄
[16:05] <ubptgbot> <Boris Mihailov> Before even trying anbox I've noticed all the imgs are armhf, so I guess I'm skipping it for now
 Do you guus think adding a setting in the keyboard to set custom height for portrait and landscape would be good?
 [Edit] Do you guys think adding a setting in the keyboard to set custom height for portrait and landscape would be good?
 @Boris Mihailov [Before even trying anbox I've noticed all the imgs are armhf, so I guess I'm ski …], oh yeah, I think I also tried installing anbox in arm64 but the packages doesn't seem to be available
 @Javacookies [Do you guys think adding a setting in the keyboard to set custom height for port …], probably not
 @dohbee [probably not], why? … I see this option on some Android keyboards … HTC supports custom height draggable by uswr … Google keyboard has predefined options
 I'm just not sure if there's an optimal logic to make the keyboard height appropriate on each device considering the scaling and physical screen dimensions.
 @Danfro [Ah, if my post was about the draft issue, sadly I had it once again.], Can you please open an issue at teleports for it? I think I didn't fully understand your problem...
 well, what exact problems are you trying to solve? keyboard "height" is basically irrelevant
 @dohbee [well, what exact problems are you trying to solve? keyboard "height" is basicall …], for example, I want my UI smaller but it could also make the keyboard smaller which I don't like … there's also the current issue on the pinephone where the keyboard's height is too small in landscape
 so what you mean is that you want different scaling for keyboard
 simply making the keyboard taller won't make the keys bigger
 @dohbee [simply making the keyboard taller won't make the keys bigger], Would the keys not also be taller?
 @dohbee [simply making the keyboard taller won't make the keys bigger], well you may be right, I haven't confirmed that yet but if I remember correctly, the keys does scale with the height/width
 @jimdafoex [Would the keys not also be taller?], i'm pretty sure the font and button sizes are not relational to the size of the keyboard surface
 Hmmm, I guess I'll just try it 😁
 @mrcyjanek [I'm having somethinf like that], the text in the text area gets (partly) deleted while you're writing or after you wrote something? … can you check if it is fixed in this version, please? … https://gitlab.com/ubports/apps/teleports/-/pipelines/182312167 Download the artifacts when they are available
 @mrConLenov [<reply to media>], very cool
 @mymike00 [the text in the text area gets (partly) deleted while you're writing or after yo …], Okie
 (Photo, 1080x1920) https://irc.ubports.com/H0sNZf9I.png
 I was right 😁 … although it still look a bit weird because some do not scale well but at least most are scaled with the height so less effort to do 😄
 eh, i would say windowed mode on internal phone display is not a generally supported use case, too
 @Javacookies [<reply to media>], If you download UT Tweak Tool from the OpenStore, you can set the scaling factor to something more usable
 @joeth [If you download UT Tweak Tool from the OpenStore, you can set the scaling factor …], lol. he intentionally set it to what you see there
 @dohbee [lol. he intentionally set it to what you see there], Oops, my mistake
 yeah I exaggerated the scaling to make a point 😄
 Anyway, maybe I'll experiment adding support for custom keuboard height … it's been a while since my last contribution 😄
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 Hi everyone from Spain! Looking forward to learning a lot from this promising OS for mobile devices as my daily driver!
 @Javacookies [Anyway, maybe I'll experiment adding support for custom keuboard height … it's bee …], Thats cool actually