[00:15] <crst> Hi, something messes up my ip rules. They change to something else a couple of seconds after `netplan apply`. 18.04 with docker and kubernetes on it.
[00:19] <sarnold> hrmph :( ip monitor can print changes but don't seem to include which pid asked for the  changes :(
[00:21] <moonfmdesire> Hello, I have an HP Laserjet P1006, and tried the ubuntu native add printer, hplip and cups, no success. Is there anyone who can help?
[00:21] <sarnold> what do you see? do you get error messages? can you see it on the network with eg nmap?
[00:22] <moonfmdesire> sarnold, The printer is there, the computer sees the printer, but no sheets come out
[00:22] <FaTaL_G> for what it is worth, I can confidently attest speedtest-cli is truly innacurate and apparently the git author/team acknowledges it and will not accept bugs to improve it, however ookla has a linux binary that seems to be very stable and the results make sense. Unfortunately it is not open source. If people care to see stable results the open source package doesn't do it
[00:22] <moonfmdesire> There are 21 pending jobs
[00:23] <moonfmdesire> Normally HP is pretty good about printer drivers, but this time is a doozy
[00:24] <moonfmdesire> I have added, removed, re-added the printer, to no avail
[00:24] <moonfmdesire> CUPS keeps complaining that I have not entered root credentials when I have
[00:24] <moonfmdesire> Tried four ways to connect the printer via USB. This is for Ubuntu 20.04
[00:29] <moonfmdesire> here: https://pastebin.com/69Qx8UD0
[00:29] <moonfmdesire> Someone keeps telling me to get a Mac to fix the printer problem.
[00:30] <moonfmdesire> "there was a problem processing document..."
[00:35] <moonfmdesire> It seems that in the years I have used Linux, the printer/peripheral device issue has grown worse.
[00:46] <moonfmdesire> Ubuntu has gone downhill if they distro cannot get printers working.
[00:46] <moonfmdesire> *crash*
[00:46] <moonfmdesire> Sub-par distro
[00:47] <arooni> anyway to move where these notifications appear on ubuntu 20.04? https://imgur.com/a/Yu0xfOD
[00:47] <arooni> seems they always want to display at top left
[01:02] <nicomachus> hi all. What's the status on the 18.04 > 20.04 upgrade path? Isn't the .1 out now?
[01:06] <sarnold> since https://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release-development still lists focal, I think the upgrade path still isn't live you; you can run do-release-upgrade -d to start it early if you wish
[01:07] <nicomachus> I prefer not to until the proper path is ready, but it should have been with the .1. The status page (https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/focal-fossa-20-04-1-lts-point-release-status-tracking/17604) says "Upgrades from 18.04 to 20.04.1 are still disabled as we are working through a few upgrade blockers". Wondering what hte blockers are
[06:18] <zamba> i have a problem with resource-intensive work that pratically grinds my ubuntu installations to a complete halt
[06:18] <zamba> i ran a python script that consumed at lot of resources and this ended up halting the machine
[06:18] <zamba> it's responsive over icmp, but i haven't been able to connect to it for a while
[07:38] <borw3> Hello Ubuntu, I have a problem with the 5.4.0.42-generic kernel you guys package, it seems the file /usr/src/linux-headers-5.4.0-42-generic/tools/build/Build.include is missing.
[07:39] <borw3> I need it to compile kernel module/drivers as it is needed in /usr/src/linux-headers-5.4.0-42-generic/tools/build/Makefile.build, line 37 states so, but it doesn't exist.
[07:40] <lotuspsychje> borw3: why are you compiling kernel?
[07:41] <borw3> I am not compiling kernel, it's just a wifi driver that needs to be compiled, but the kernel of Ubuntu is missing that file.
[07:42] <lotuspsychje> borw3: if something doesnt work out of the box, please file a new !bug for the current kernel, you dont need own compiles really
[07:43] <borw3> lotuspsychje, LOL! I am not compiling the kernel, I am trying to install wifi drivers. but that file /usr/src/linux-headers-5.4.0-42-generic/tools/build/Build.include is missing
[07:44] <lotuspsychje> borw3: yeah i understand you, still i would advice you to search the root of the problem why your wifi driver is not working properly first
[07:45] <lotuspsychje> borw3: if nobody files bugs, the developers will never know about your issue, agree?
[07:46] <lotuspsychje> borw3: can you share your dmesg plz?
[07:46] <borw3> lotuspsychje, I am trying to develop/update old drivers of wifi card rt3290sta, I been maintaining my own version as the original stopped working after kernel 3.7.x but mine also has stopped working and it's due to that missing file,
[07:47] <borw3> the driver works fine(but with low power) with the normal kernel drivers out of the box, this one I am trying to handle has boosted power.
[07:47] <borw3> low power means low range.
[07:48] <borw3> I have to literally be sitting 1m away from the wifi router for it to give reasonable speeds. LOL!
[07:48] <lotuspsychje> borw3: oh if you are trying to contribute/develop please talk to the #ubuntu-devel or #ubuntu-kernel guys, they might give you more insight about it then
[07:49] <borw3> lotuspsychje, thanks, didn't know that.
[07:55] <diskin> hi all, in 20.04 the wifi icon shows question mark after connecting to a VPN via Cisco Anyconnect client, as if there is no internet. I did not see it when I was on 18.04. Is it known?
[08:11] <Mystified1234> need help just installed ubuntu on Desktop no etherenet, wifi not recognised. grub is notpicking up windows 10
[08:16] <Mystified1234> sdaI can't seem to locate the windows drive
[08:16] <Mystified1234> they are mounted
[08:17] <Alexandrov> Maybe your Windows partition is in sleep mode
[08:17] <Alexandrov> Please properly shut down your Windows or try to disable ¨quick boot¨ (idk what it is called) in your Windows.
[08:18] <katronix> Hi all, I'm running Ubuntu 20.04.1 LTS with Kernel 5.4.0-42-generic and its detecting my sound cards improperly. The system is AMD with NVIDIA graphics and all (mobo and hdmi based) audio is all being identified as being Intel cards
[08:18] <Mystified1234> unable to access windows tried rebooting
[08:20] <EriC^^> Mystified1234: type 'sudo parted -ls | nc termbin.com 9999'
[08:20] <Alexandrov> Okay Mystified1234
[08:22] <Mystified1234> yes, but no internet
[08:24] <Mystified1234> how about first we get wifi.
[08:24] <Mystified1234> i have Tplink 802.11ac nic usw wifi card
[08:25] <Mystified1234> not recognised
[08:27] <Alexandrov> Are you on Ubuntu or Windows rn?
[08:27] <EriC^^> Mystified1234: try "sudo ubuntu-drivers devices" see if it lists any drivers for wifi
[08:28] <Mystified1234> ubuntu
[08:28] <Alexandrov> EriC^^, gave you the answer
[08:29] <Mystified1234> EriC^^: came back nothing'
[08:30] <Mystified1234> just root prompt
[08:30] <Mystified1234> lsusb
[08:31] <Mystified1234> bus 003 device 002: id 1d6b
[08:32] <Mystified1234> bus 003 device 002: id 2357:012d tp-link 802.11ac Nic
[08:35] <Mystified1234> EriC^^: "The adapter is made by TP-Link using a Realtek chipset" mint forum
[08:35] <Alexandrov> have you installed the required firmware?
[08:35] <Alexandrov> realtek firmware?
[08:36] <Mystified1234> The TP Link source code showed it was a rtl8822bu
[08:36] <Mystified1234> Alexandrov: no
[08:36] <Mystified1234> how to with no internet on the desktop
[08:36] <Alexandrov> try this, sudo apt install firmware-realtek
[08:36] <diskin> hi all, in 20.04 the wifi icon shows question mark after connecting to a VPN via Cisco Anyconnect client, as if there is no internet. I did not see it when I was on 18.04. Is it known?
[08:37] <Alexandrov> try to download the package somewhere, and copy it inside an USB drive
[08:37] <Alexandrov> then plug it in your laptop
[08:37] <Alexandrov> then dpkg -i it
[08:37] <Mystified1234> my laptop is ubuntu
[08:37] <Mystified1234> so what should I download
[08:39] <Alexandrov> firmware-realtek
[08:39] <Mystified1234> thanks
[08:39] <Mystified1234> realtek whebsite'
[08:40] <katronix> Hi all, I'm running Ubuntu 20.04.1 LTS with Kernel 5.4.0-42-generic and its detecting my sound cards improperly. The system is AMD with NVIDIA graphics and all (mobo and hdmi based) audio is all being identified as being Intel cards. Any suggestions on fixing the issue?
[08:42] <Alexandrov> no, not realtek website
[08:42] <Mystified1234> https://pkgs.org/search/?q=firmware-realtek ?
[08:42] <Alexandrov> yes
[08:43] <Alexandrov> katronix, wait.
[08:52] <Alexandrov> Can someone pls attend Katronnix?
[08:52] <Alexandrov> *katronix
[08:52] <Mystified1234> hmm Alexandrov: it seems that package is already in ubuntu
[08:52] <Alexandrov> katronix, did you installed nvidia firmware yet?
[08:52] <Mystified1234> saying its overwriting
[08:54] <katronix> Alexandrov, I have installed the propietary drivers for it
[08:54] <Alexandrov> 440?
[08:54] <Alexandrov> which version?
[08:55] <Alexandrov> what is your nvidia card? GTX?? katronix
[08:55] <katronix> Yes installed 440
[08:55] <Alexandrov> I think 440 is already been tested
[08:56] <katronix> Ubuntu detects it as Geforce RTX 2060
[08:57] <katronix> yes 440 was the recommended option
[08:58] <Mystified1234> I've inserted the card into my laptop https://termbin.com/jsd9
[08:59] <Mystified1234> Bus 001 Device 005: ID 2357:012d TP-Link 802.11ac NIC
[08:59] <Alexandrov> wait I´m reviewing this issue, katronix
[09:00] <Alexandrov> is it really, Gefore RTX 2060? katronix?
[09:00] <katronix> Yes it is
[09:00] <Alexandrov> Mystified1234, is it match your device?
[09:00] <Mystified1234> does not look like it
[09:01] <Alexandrov> what is your kernel, Mystified1234?
[09:01] <Mystified1234> i have the card in this laptop
[09:01] <Mystified1234> 5.4.0-42-generic
[09:01] <Mystified1234> on this laptop
[09:02] <Mystified1234> 5.4.0-7625 on the desktop
[09:02] <Mystified1234> 20.04 on both
[09:03] <katronix> It does seem I do get some sound from like when someone sends me a message via Facebook, but audio from YouTube etc, doesn't come through. Also the HDMI Audio is being detected as TU106 High Definition  Audio Controller
[09:08] <Alexandrov> idk but it seems that 5.4.x really breaks Ubuntu
[09:08] <Alexandrov> hahaha
[09:08] <katronix> should I downgrade to 5.3.x? lol
[09:09] <Mystified1234> back I've found this, don'lt know how to do this without wifi
[09:09] <Mystified1234> https://askubuntu.com/questions/1134101/tp-link-archer-t3u-not-working-in-ubuntu-18-04
[09:11] <Alexandrov> hahahaha
[09:11] <Alexandrov> I think one should downgrade the kernel
[09:12] <Alexandrov> This kernel (5.4) already been patched 42 times
[09:12] <Alexandrov> idk why, anyone can attend this issue?
[09:12] <Mystified1234> how to downgrade
[09:13] <katronix> Mystified1234, if your fortunate the previous version is still listed in your GRUB menu
[09:14] <Mystified1234> mope
[09:14] <Mystified1234> nope
[09:15] <Mystified1234> ill try grub rescue disk & see if I can into windows
[09:15] <katronix> Mystified1234, might see if you have a "Previous Linux Versions" item in your GRUB, that is where other versions would be
[09:16] <Mystified1234> no other linux
[09:17] <Mystified1234> need to recover windows  priority
[09:17] <Mystified1234> it's intact & bootable just need to recover the bootloader
[09:17] <Mystified1234> whats the best windows bootloader recovery for windows
[09:18] <katronix> if you have a windows usb stick, it should be able to via the recovery option
[09:18] <Mystified1234> nope not with me
[09:18] <Mystified1234> wsuob
[09:18] <Mystified1234> will work..
[09:19] <Mystified1234> WoeUSB
[09:19] <Mystified1234> but to much work
[09:19] <katronix> interesting audio working now....
[09:36] <zetheroo> Is ZOL in Ubuntu 20.04 good enough for production?
[09:51] <xtao> it's marked as "experimental" so I would suggest not
[09:53] <zetheroo> xtao: I was reading this https://ubuntu.com/blog/zfs-focus-on-ubuntu-20-04-lts-whats-new and it says "The first thing to note is that our ZFS support with ZSys is still experimental." ... From that I was not sure if ZFS support itself was experimental, or if it was the 'support with ZSys' was experimental.
[10:03] <nsaunders> I have an old machine with 8gb ram.  what's a good lightweight window manager?
[10:03] <xtao> it's probably fine for home use but i'd be wary of using it for any business use. just personal opinion though
[10:04] <xtao> nsaunders: my laptop has 4GB and runs XFCE (xubuntu) quite happily
[10:07] <nsaunders> xtao: thx
[10:09] <nsaunders> installing xfc34 from apt now.  do I need to reboot to switch over?
[10:13] <nsaunders> I should install xubuntu-desktop to switch over fully?
[10:14] <shailangsa> how do you want to use xubuntu?
[10:14] <nsaunders> I'm not sure.
[10:15] <nsaunders> I was looking at an askubuntu q where they were saying it wasn't much different, but then a comment said to remove ubuntu-desktop.
[10:15] <nsaunders> I'm not looking for speed so much as I think I run out of RAM and get freezes.  Sometimes a pegged CPU.
[10:16] <nsaunders> what's the distincton between xfce4 and xubuntu-desktop?
[10:18] <xtao> not sure. i just installed xubuntu from scratch so that became the default desktop out of the box. there's a #xubuntu channel which is dedicated to that flavor. i assume if you were using ubuntu then my uneducated guess would be that xfce4 would add it as an additional desktop environment where you could use the gnome login manager to select either gnome or xfce, and xubuntu-desktop probably converts ...
[10:18] <xtao> ...it into xubuntu itself using the lightdm manager etc ?
[10:26] <legreffier> nsaunders: you really don't need to
[10:26] <legreffier> don't remove ubuntu-desktop though.
[10:30] <xtao> there's also quite a difference between xfce 4.12 and 4.14. the visual themes were updated and look a lot nicer. 20.04 has 4.14. if on an older version i'm not sure which one you'll get
[10:45] <arpad2> how to upgrade from 19.10 to 20.04 from terminal?
[10:46] <lotuspsychje> arpad2: 19.10 is end of life by now, not advice to upgrade from eol releases
[10:47] <arpad2> lotuspsychje: so, fresh install is the way forward then?
[10:47] <lotuspsychje> arpad2: that would be a better aproach yes, to avoid security flaws in your system see !usn
[10:47] <overclock> arpad2: I would put the sources.list of 20.04 in /etc/apt/sources.list and sudo apt-dist upgrade
[10:47] <overclock> but dont trust me much
[10:49] <arpad2> overclock: thanks, though it puzzles me why wasn't upgrade offered, that is how I upgraded usually
[10:52] <xtao> should be able to upgrade from 19.10 to 20.04 surely? there's no releases in-between those
[10:54] <xtao> although i guess you might have to do 19.10 to 20.04 to 20.04.1
[10:55] <vbgunz> Hello, does Ubuntu have a Fedora like fpaste app builtin? something in which I can quickly from the terminal paste a snippet to a pastebin?
[10:55] <diskin> hi all, in 20.04 the wifi icon shows question mark after connecting to a VPN via Cisco Anyconnect client, as if there is no internet. I did not see it when I was on 18.04
[10:56] <lotuspsychje> !pastebinit | vbgunz
[10:57] <nsaunders> what's the distinction between xfce4 and xubuntu-desktop?
[10:57] <vbgunz> lotuspsychje: thanks, it's here on 20.04 <3
[10:57] <nsaunders> and, after having installed xubuntu-desktop, I need to remove buntu-desktop?
[10:58] <guiverc> nsaunders, why not put xfec4 and xubuntu-desktop into packages.ubuntu.com & compare yourself.  xubuntu-desktop is the meta package put together by the Xubuntu team...
[10:58] <nsaunders> guiverc: I don't understand what you mean by "put" into packages?
[10:59] <guiverc> nsaunders, https://packages.ubuntu.com/focal/xubuntu-desktop  shows what's included in xubuntu-desktop for focal/20.04
[10:59] <nsaunders> I see
[10:59] <guiverc> likewise https://packages.ubuntu.com/focal/xfce4 for xfce4
[11:01] <nsaunders> (I'm just in text mode right nowA)
[11:01] <nsaunders> BUT THANK YOU FOR THE LINK
[11:01] <nsaunders> whoops, caps..
[11:01] <guiverc> nsaunders, then use `apt-cache show` & like term commands
[11:02] <lotuspsychje> nsaunders: are you going to install xubuntu ontop another ubuntu base?
[11:02] <guiverc> (or lynx, w3m etc browsers)
[11:07] <mindbender1> \quit
[11:08] <croraf> Hi. Hui Wang, a canonical employee suggested me to install https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-ucm-conf/1.2.2-1ubuntu0.1
[11:09] <croraf> Will this pacakge be intalled automatically in some of the next Ubuntu versions?
[11:09] <croraf> (patches)
[11:09] <nsaunders> I think I'm going to remove ubuntu-desktop
[11:09] <lotuspsychje> nsaunders: did you originally install ubuntu-desktop as base?
[11:10] <nsaunders> it came installed as such with 20.04 I believe
[11:10] <nsaunders> (going to reboot now..)
[11:10] <lotuspsychje> nsaunders: not sure yet whats your end goal plan, but we advice when you like a !flavour of ubuntu, to install it clean
[11:11] <Cyber_Akuma> I am guessing ubuntu doesn't come in mint flavor? XD
[11:11] <lotuspsychje> nsaunders: installing flavours ontop another base, then purge the base will give you troubles
[11:11] <nsaunders> hmm
[11:11] <lotuspsychje> Cyber_Akuma: mint is a derivative
[11:11] <Cyber_Akuma> I know
[11:11] <Cyber_Akuma> was just making a joke
[11:12] <nsaunders> well, I just installed the other day, so even I have to clean install it's no big loss
[11:21] <nsaunders> after having installed xfce4 and xubuntu-desktop and then removing ubuntu-desktop it doesn't look any different..
[11:22] <lotuspsychje> nsaunders: different then what, a clean xubuntu install?
[11:24] <nsaunders> yes
[11:25] <nsaunders> I was expecting a different look
[11:25] <lotuspsychje> nsaunders: well nothing can beat a clean install for sure, but glad it worked out for you, you might still have packages from both worlds in your system now
[11:27] <nsaunders> I see.  hmm.
[11:28] <nsaunders> I think I had too many logins, too much running and so was getting freezes.  I was thinking that by switching to xubuntu-desktop fewer resources (ram) would be consumed.  but, graphically, it seems unchanged.  that's because of artifacts from ubuntu-desktop?
[11:34] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[12:06] <vbgunz> Moving a file with a colon in its name from btrfs to FAT32 silently renames that file and replaces colons with underscores. Is this good behavior? I'd expect no renaming. Is this documented?
[12:24] <croraf> Hi. I've been suggested to:
[12:24] <croraf> > Uninstall the workaround of retasking codec pin ([ 2.997562] snd_hda_intel 0000:01:00.1: Applying patch firmware 'hda-jack-retask.fw')
[12:24] <croraf> Referring to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1892714/+attachment/5404437/+files/dmesg_new.txt
[12:24] <croraf> How to do this?
[13:30] <acmehandel> can i ask ubuntu-server 20.04 questions here?
[13:34] <acmehandel> i'm having a problem either the frame buffer or the console.  there is a weird thing that happens.  for example, if I type something on the command line the echoing wont complete unless I move a mouse or press another button
[13:34] <acmehandel> and the results of the command wont start to echo back unless I do the same thing
[13:37] <genii> acmehandel: If you issue the command: reset     ..does the echoing behaviour return to normal?
[13:37] <MTecknology> Did 20.04 get rid of support for preseed files?
[13:37] <acmehandel> genii, one moment i'll check right now.
[13:38] <acmehandel> that reminds me of another problem.  i switch between the machine in question and my desktop via a kvm switch.
[13:39] <acmehandel> so when i try to switch back to the server running ubuntu it takes a really really really long time for the connection to get detected again.  i often leave dmesg -w running when i switch back and forth to watch the messages change as it tries to reconnect.
[13:39] <acmehandel> there is some usb stuff that goes on there  and it takes forever
[13:39] <acmehandel> I'll be back in a minute
[13:44] <raxor2k> I need help: I ran a python script with an "try and catch" exception, and it seems like my ubuntu server disk is full(i cant even add a new folder!!), how can i solve this??
[13:48] <acmehandel> genii reset sort of sets the console to 'normal'  only thing is when I press and hold down the space bar it moves one spot and thats it.  when I press and hold down the backspace button it moves one space, but if i move the mouse while holding the backspace button down it will move contiously until i release the button or stop moving the mouse
[13:48] <acmehandel> however the same cant be said for the space bar, the cursor wont move more than one space no matter what i do
[14:09] <derwen> The camera on my latitude 5500 laptop is not working. I have Ubuntu 20.04 installed. Could I have some help getting it working please.
[14:11] <inad922> Hi I tried to install my company's root ca via this tutorial -> https://askubuntu.com/a/94861 How can I add back all the certs under /usr/share/ca-certificates?
[16:05] <plusparth_> I’m having issues with window scaling, is this the place to ask?
[16:11] <AndruJorj> plusparth_: what's the issue?
[16:14] <croraf> Ubuntu Bionic (16.04) had "bionic linux-hwe" kernel flavors, which were like "advanced" kernels matching some of the latest mainline kernels?
[16:15] <oerheks> !hwe
[16:16] <oerheks> so, no HWE for current 20.04 yet.
[16:17] <MikeRL> Anyone else have nvidia-dkms-450 installed and recently updated along with v450 of the NVIDIA drivers from the PPA?
[16:17] <croraf> oerheks, what do you mean by X support?
[16:18] <MikeRL> Seems that it's ran into an issue because the version of nvidia-dkms-450 is 450.66-0ubuntu0~0.20.04.2. But the package manager expects >= 450.66.
[16:18] <AndruJorj> Xorg, I presume.
[16:18] <MikeRL> I oddly enough tried it on a live USB and it installed no problem, but on my laptop with 20.04, it fails to install.
[16:20] <MikeRL> I'm also curious that if anyone else here has reported this issue. I left an email with the team on Launchpad. It doesn't add up after looking at logs.
[16:23] <oerheks> MikeRL, do you have headers installed?
[16:24] <oerheks> sudo apt install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[16:25] <MikeRL> oerheks, I originally had a different than stock kernel installed. I downgraded it.
[16:25] <MikeRL> Yes. That command outputs they're installed.
[16:25] <Maik> croraf:  if you read the documentation in the link that was given: xorg
[16:26] <MikeRL> oerheks, The odd thing is it installed on a live CD. I'll grab some logs.
[16:27] <MikeRL> Terminal output: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/B4ZCCwZY4Q/
[16:27] <MikeRL> I did try it with the original kernel as well.
[16:29] <hydrian> Ello all
[16:30] <MikeRL> Log mentioned in terminal output at /var/lib/dkms/nvidia/450.66/build/make.log https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/FYbg3Z5vvH/
[16:36] <hydrian> Does any body know of a script that help manage importing SSH from a local file/stdin?
[16:36] <hydrian> s/SSH/ SSH public keys/
[16:37] <hydrian> It looks like ssh-import-ssh only supports importing from github and launchpad.
[16:38] <plusparth_> AndruJorj: when I set scale to 100% the OS ui elements all become normally scaled but all of my applications remain at 200%
[16:38] <plusparth_> in case it makes a difference: I have pop shell on top of my ubuntu 20.04 install
[16:38] <plusparth_> tried relogging and rebooting, no difference
[16:42] <lotuspsychje> plusparth_: there's a recent bug on mutter and nvidia about that
[16:42] <lotuspsychje> plusparth_: see if you are affected on bug #1892521
[16:47] <plusparth_> lotuspsychje: it’s not just font scaling for me, things like titlebars and such are also not scaled correctly
[16:48] <plusparth_> the gnome launcher and top bar scale correctly with the display scale setting
[16:48] <plusparth_> if I manually scale the fonts to 50%, window titlebars stay weirdly sized and the top bar text gets super tiny
[16:51] <lotuspsychje> plusparth_: do you have an nvidia card?
[16:57] <MikeRL> I'm not sure. Is this the best place to ask for a third party driver PPA issue?
[16:57] <MikeRL> Is there another IRC/Telegram or Discord channel or anything?
[16:57] <lotuspsychje> MikeRL: i saw a recent bug about 450 drivers passby, its posible they still working on 450 support by default
[16:58] <MikeRL> lotuspsychje, Do you have a link?
[16:58] <lotuspsychje> MikeRL: bug #1887674
[16:58] <lotuspsychje> MikeRL: not sure its related to yours
[16:59] <lotuspsychje> but i recall we had users lately trying that server driver lately
[16:59] <MikeRL> Yeah the PPA driver just fails where I shown it does.
[17:00] <MikeRL> It failed after a recent update. Was fine updating itself before. The earlier versions of the driver fail as well.
[17:14] <MikeRL> Going to try my luck on the unofficial #nvidia channel for Linux.
[17:41] <hugh_marera> I am running Ubuntu Focal Fossa. I have just upgraded to firefox 80.0 but when i run this command "ps -A | grep firefox" it does not show the process id. Also, i cannot close firefox from the terminal using either "pkill/killall". Is this as intended?
[17:53] <diskin> hi all, in 20.04 the wifi icon shows question mark after connecting to a VPN via Cisco Anyconnect client, as if there is no internet. I did not see it when I was on 18.04. Is it known?
[18:02] <DocMors> cn one please give me the link to the ubuntu page that shows the current holdups for the regular 20.4 update? Last time it was grub and the lvm update. I lost the link again
[18:31] <DocMors> is this channel alive?
[18:32] <lotuspsychje> yes DocMors
[18:32] <DocMors> oh great, would you please gibe me that link again?
[18:33] <lotuspsychje> DocMors: do you mean for this? https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/focal-fossa-20-04-1-lts-point-release-status-tracking/17604
[18:33] <DocMors> thank a mil, excactly that one. I'll bookmark it
[18:37] <pagios> hello all, i am trying to copy some files as root to an nfs share, i am using rsync  -avz --no-perms --no-owner --no-group --delete /opt/ /nfs/ but i get permission denied, the nfs is mounted as  /nfs cifs iocharset=utf8,rw,credentials=/etc/backup-credentials.txt,uid=0,gid=0,file_mode=0660,dir_mode=0770 0 0 any idea how to solve it ?
[18:42] <rapidwave> Is 18.04 too old? Trying to use a pre-made VM, it says it cannot download all sources for VirtualBox Guest Additions ISO
[18:42] <tomreyn> pagios: that's the only line of output?
[18:43] <pagios> rsync: mkstemp "/nfs/zimbra.orig/clamav-0.97.3/etc/.clamd.conf.nkiWnr" failed: Permission denied (13)
[18:43] <pagios> tomreyn:
[18:44] <tomreyn> can you create "touch" this?
[18:44] <tomreyn> i mean: can you "touch" this?
[18:44] <pagios> touch /nfs/zimbra.orig/clamav-0.97.3/etc/.clamd.conf.nkiWnr
[18:44] <pagios> touch: cannot touch `/nfs/zimbra.orig/clamav-0.97.3/etc/.clamd.conf.nkiWnr': Permission denied
[18:45] <pagios> ls -altrh /nfs/zimbra.orig/clamav-0.97.3/etc/
[18:45] <pagios> dr-xr-xr-x.  2 root root 0 Aug  2 20:01 .
[18:45] <pagios> drwxrwxrwx. 10 root root 0 Aug 26 21:30
[18:47] <tomreyn> pagios: looks like you can't write there, or not this file
[18:48] <pagios> i did a chmod -R 777 /nfs
[18:48] <pagios> if i change the permission of rhat dir it works..
[18:48] <pagios> but why that dir didnt get the 777? as u see it is a dr-x
[18:49] <tomreyn> consider a chmod command on a network file system to be a 'request' to change something, not guaranteed to succeed. sometimes, those just fail silenty
[18:50] <tomreyn> you could just point rsync to a different directory for temporary files using    -T, --temp-dir=DIR          create temporary files in directory DIR
[18:50] <pagios> ok how can i solve this thing
[18:50] <tomreyn> see above
[18:51] <pagios> i can write there
[18:51] <pagios> the file was written there from another system
[18:56] <rapidwave> Is virtualbox-guest-additions-iso of 18.04 no longer available/correct?
[18:58] <tomreyn> rapidwave: it should be included int he virtualbox package
[18:58] <hugh_marera> Firefox 80.0 not showing on running processes even though firefox is open. the terminal command "ps -A | grep firefox" returns blank. I am on Ubuntu 20.04.
[18:59] <tomreyn> rapidwave: but i'd personally prefer the packages from virtualbox.org, those in ubuntu have not been in very good shape, and you can't get support with them from virtualbox
[18:59] <rapidwave> Hmm. I'm just trying to install guest additions on the guest so it'll work with the host
[19:00] <rapidwave> the VM isn't showing the shared folders and on boot-up it complains about version mismatch
[19:02] <tomreyn> hugh_marera: you'll be better services with "ps -ef" or "ps a"
[19:03] <hugh_marera> tomreyn: even pkill/killall seems not to close firefox too
[19:03] <tomreyn> rapidwave: is the guest running a supported ubuntu version, or the host, or both? and which version? and which virtualbox packages are you using?
[19:06] <tomreyn> hugh_marera: why are you trying to do this, what's the greater gioal?
[19:06] <tomreyn> *goal
[19:08] <hugh_marera> my goal is to be able to close firefox from the terminal. I was able to do so via "pkill firefox" from the terminal, until today's update to firefox 80.0. So, am not sure if it is me only having this problem
[19:08] <rapidwave> THe host is Windows 10 with VirtualBox 6.0...guest is Ubuntu 18.04.1
[19:08] <xtao> i can't see firefox with ps -A but it does appear with ps -ef
[19:09] <xtao> that's odd though isn't it, as -A according to the man page is show all processes
[19:10] <hugh_marera> xtao: can you kill firefox from the terminal?
[19:10] <hugh_marera> like pkill firefox
[19:11] <xtao> yeah that's weird. so -A and -e do the same thing according to the man page. neither option shows firefox. but if you add -f then it works. -f is only meant to show more columns
[19:11] <xtao> and no, pkill firefox does nothing
[19:11] <hugh_marera> ps -ef does show it
[19:35] <DocMors> hugh_marera, if you want to do -A it's called MainThread
[19:37] <hugh_marera> DocMors: Ok, i thought it is supposed to show all processes?
[19:38] <DocMors> well not sure maybe they changed the name, I do -ef normally because I get more info
[19:39] <hugh_marera> this is what it shows on  the manpage " -A     Select all processes.  Identical to -e."
[19:40] <xtao> yeah it's the same process ID. just it's called MainThread with -A and firefox with -f. i guess it's something related to process threads then. but the man page isn't really clear on what that's meant to show
[19:40] <hugh_marera> Ultimately i was searching for the process id for firefox but running "ps -A | grep firefox" returns a blank
[19:41] <DocMors> hugh_marera, I did that in the past too but they changed something
[19:43] <hugh_marera> so i cannot kill firefox from the terminal. I think this started from the update  i  did today . now  "pkill firefox " or "killall firefox" do not kill firefox at all
[19:43] <tomreyn> pgrep -lf firefox
[19:44] <DocMors> hugh_marera, you can killall MainThread
[19:45] <hugh_marera> like killall MainThread firefox?
[19:46] <DocMors> no just like 'killall MainThread' but you can just try instead of asking these questions
[19:46] <sarnold> or kill by pid
[19:48] <hugh_marera> sarnold: how do i get the pid for firefox?
[19:48] <Belial> "ps aux" at command line, hugh_marera
[19:48] <Belial> omitt the quotations
[19:48]  * DocMors wonders whether he's a remidial learner or a troll
[19:49] <EriC^^> hugh_marera: pgrep firefox   might do it
[19:49] <hugh_marera> pgrep firefox returns a blank
[19:50] <DocMors> so what is it that you don't underdtand in 'they changed the name to MainThread'
[19:50] <sarnold> hugh_marera: I used ps auxw | grep firefox  when I needed to kill firefox by hand last week
[19:50] <hugh_marera> killall MainThread firefox works
[19:50] <DocMors> shocking
[19:51] <hugh_marera> ps auxw | grep firefox also works. Thanks
[19:52] <MikeRL> https://askubuntu.com/questions/1270324/nvidia-proprietary-drivers-20-04-1-fail-with-dependency-problems
[19:52] <MikeRL> Back. Went to post on there. I'll just leave that here so it increases exposure and I don't need to repeat.
[19:52] <hugh_marera> DocMors: I was used to "pkill firefox " or "killall firefox" working.
[19:53] <DocMors> you'll find that things change all the time, get used to it :)
[19:53] <hugh_marera> For instance i can close gnumeric  via simple pkill/killall
[19:53] <MikeRL> Dang he's right it doesn't work.
[19:54] <MikeRL> I wonder what the new command is? Just joined so I didn't see.
[19:54] <oerheks> MikeRL, "building initial module for 5.8.4-050804-generic  ... "  but we run 5.4.0-42
[19:54] <oerheks> add that to your question ?
[19:54] <MikeRL> oerheks, I have since removed it and rebooted. All updated kernels are gone. Using the one that ships now.
[19:55] <MikeRL> oerheks, I purged them in Synaptic. If you look at the newer pastes, they shouls not be present.
[19:55] <MikeRL> Wait.
[19:55] <MikeRL> You're right.
[19:58] <MikeRL> Give me a sec. I may have forgot to update the paste or reboot.
[20:05] <mifritscher> moin
[20:05] <mifritscher> can I somehow paste a filepath in the gtk file open dialog? I have very often the usecase that I've the filepath already in the clipboard...
[20:06] <mifritscher> other file dialogs have a textbox - or the "buttonbar" with the current path gets a textbox after clicking on it
[20:07] <jem> Hi, this is just a curiosity: in plain bash, Spanish keyboard layout, several times I got accidentally "combinations" of two letters like this: ㏚ (Square pr, Unicode 0x33DA) when trying to type those two letters, but pressing some wrong key at the same time... I can't figure out nor reproduce the mistake; when searching, I can find about p. e. Ctrl+Shift+U33DA but nothing involving two letters
[20:07] <tomreyn> mifritscher: ctrl-l, ctrl-v
[20:08] <jem> I asked some days ago and Sven_vB answered, but didn't answered a second time
[20:09] <MikeRL> Try now guys. The question at https://askubuntu.com/questions/1270324/nvidia-proprietary-drivers-20-04-1-fail-with-dependency-problems has been updated.
[20:10] <mifritscher> tomreyn: ah, thanks - seems to work ;) is there a way to get this key combo in this window - or does only asking (or perhaps a search engine albeit I didn't know the right search words I must admit) help?
[20:13] <oerheks> Warning: The home dir /nonexistent you specified can't be accessed: No such file ??
[20:15] <tomreyn> mifritscher: i don't understand what you mean by "is there a way to get this key combo in this window" - didn't i just explain this?
[20:17] <mifritscher> get = read fits perhaps better ;-) I know my memory^^
[20:18] <mifritscher> So I asked if there is a way that the window can tell me the combo if I forget it again
[20:18] <tomreyn> oh ok
[20:18] <Loshki> jem: it took me years to figure out I was catching the F11 key with my finger when I hit backspace
[20:19] <tomreyn> mifritscher: IIRC, if you    rm ~/.config/gnome-initial-setup-done    and log out and log in, you should get to see a list of common keyboard shortcuts towards the end.
[20:20] <tomreyn> i'm not sure whether application specific ones like ctrl-l for nautilus will be on this list, though
[20:21] <mifritscher> tomreyn: little problem: I'm using gtk applications with the mate desktop - or even on Windows *g*
[20:22] <tomreyn> this channel is about ubuntu and its common foundations with other flavours. you may want to ask in #ubuntu-mate
[20:22] <tomreyn> or ##windows
[20:23] <mifritscher> (and logging off and on just to get the key combos is a bit ... overcomplicated^^)
[20:24] <Niklas_E> I installed postfix before but now I want to reconfigureit, but can access the menu. how do I get that again?
[20:28] <MikeRL> oerheks, What does that mean?
[20:28] <MikeRL> I see the text in the paste.
[20:30] <oerheks> MikeRL, i have no clue there, still looking for simular issues, linux wide
[20:31] <mifritscher> Niklas_E: do you mean "dpkg-reconfigure postfix" ?
[20:31] <oerheks> i think the driver 450 + dkms is wonky, try one lower, 440?
[20:31] <MikeRL> oerheks, Are you saying this is a known issue others have reported?
[20:31] <Niklas_E> aha, maybe
[20:31] <MikeRL> Searching up the error yields nothing.
[20:31] <oerheks> no, but i read some issues days ago .. i have been away for a while
[20:33] <MikeRL> For the heck of it, I created a folder called /nonexistant at the root of the FS and /home.
[20:33] <b_rake> Hi everyone, I was hoping someone could answer a question for me or point me in a direction where I could find an answer. Is there a way to make partman in preseed accept mkfs options? Particularly to add or remove features
[20:33] <MikeRL> Wondering if it'll fall for it.
[20:34] <b_rake> ie mkfs.ext4 -O ^$feature
[20:35] <jem> Loshki: I can imagine :), but I guess it's not my case
[20:38] <MikeRL> Well even creating a bs directory still causes it to error out.
[20:38] <Sven_vB> b_rake, probably not the best answer, but in a ditch you could make a wrapper script around partman, or straight-out patch it to make your desired options the defaults. and if that turns out cumbersome, there are other auto-install methods available, too.
[20:39] <MikeRL> Deleted both folders as they were empty and didn't trick it.
[20:39] <MikeRL> The Linus flipping off Nvidia thing has been in my mind a good part of today.
[20:47] <zethius> When you delete yaru-theme-gnome-shell, yaru-theme-icon, yaru-theme-gtk and yaru-theme-sound I also have to remote ubuntu and ubuntu-minimal along with it. If I delete them, would this basically fudge everything up?
[20:47] <zethius> *remove
[20:47] <sarnold> zethius: it's possible that will complicate do-release-upgrade at some point in the future, yes
[20:47] <zethius> So basically, I cannot purge yaru-theme?
[20:47] <sarnold> zethius: you could use the 'equivs' package to fake out the dependencie sfor the themes if you really want them gone but otherwise don't want to remove ubuntu-minimal
[20:48] <zethius> sarnold: Oh damn...how is a theme so deeply integrated into Ubuntu?
[21:16] <malwar3hun73r> What could cause dd_rescue to slow to a crawl while reporting 0 errors?
[21:17] <sarnold> perhaps the drive's error recovery process takes forever but it does eventually return good reads
[21:17] <malwar3hun73r> i guess that would still be indicative of a bad (or failing) drive?
[21:18] <sarnold> yes
[21:18] <malwar3hun73r> yay
[21:18] <sarnold> hopefully those show up in smartctl output somewhere
[21:18] <malwar3hun73r> that was my assumption
[21:19] <malwar3hun73r> it's a usb drive used for boot, everythign was working fine, but had a power outage this morning and since everything was already off decided to do a backup
[21:19] <malwar3hun73r> 5 hours later... still waiting
[21:20] <sarnold> very good idea :) but perhaps a bit too late to help :(
[21:20] <malwar3hun73r> the drive was not recognized at first and then did boot the second time, it was then i decided to backup
[21:20] <malwar3hun73r> so maybe all is not lost yet
[21:22] <gestalt> Hello, all.  I just installed Ubuntu 20 with disk encryption and every time I boot I wind up at the grub menu.  I've had to enter all this "set profile=(hd0,...; insmod linux; normal" stuff to boot and I'm wondering how I can configure this to happen automatically
[21:23] <gestalt> I've tried editing my grub config file to set things like GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT_QUIET=true etc and even after running "sudo update-grub" I am brought to that boot menu
[21:24] <sarnold> gestalt: try sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub-efi-amd64
[21:27] <gestalt> I'm told that "grub-efi-amd64 is not installed" sarnold.  Do I have to reinstall grub?
[21:29] <sarnold> gestalt: hmm -- how about grub-pc?
[21:30] <gestalt> That brought up a Package configuration prompt.  It's asking for a Linux command line.  Do I enter the commands I was running, separated by a semi-colon each?
[21:30] <gestalt> "kopt" was extracted from /etc/default/grub
[21:31] <sarnold> gestalt: you'd enter whatever kernel command line you need, if any; https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/v4.14/admin-guide/kernel-parameters.html  (or whichever kernel version you're using)
[21:40] <gestalt> I'm honestly not really sure what to do with this
[21:42] <sarnold> gestalt: most people don't need anything special on the kernel command line
[21:44] <MzR_Massey> Good afternoon, How's everyone doing today?
[21:47] <gestalt> Hello
[21:49] <MzR_Massey> I am trying to run icecast2 on an ubuntu 16.04.7 LTS version, and I have the configs in the right spot, though, its telling me " Couldn't find user "stream" in password fileCouldn't find group "stream" in groups fileERROR: You should not run icecast2 as rootUse the changeowner directive in the config file
[21:49] <sarnold> MzR_Massey: what does 'getent passwd stream' report?
[21:51] <MzR_Massey> it comes back with an empty line
[21:51] <sarnold> MzR_Massey: aha; then the user indeed does not exist
[21:52] <MzR_Massey> how can I create the user?
[21:53] <sarnold> MzR_Massey: very strange, the postinst script for the newest version in the debian archives creates an 'icecast' user, not a 'stream' user: https://sources.debian.org/src/icecast2/2.4.4-3/debian/icecast2.postinst/
[21:53] <sarnold> MzR_Massey: try 'getent passwd icecast' and see if that exists
[21:54] <sarnold> hmm. maybe that's 'icecast2'. I wonder why the '2'.
[21:54] <sarnold> try also 'getent passwd icecast2'
[21:55] <MzR_Massey> icecast2:x:114:119::/usr/share/icecast2:/bin/false
[21:55] <MzR_Massey> comes out on icecast2
[21:55] <sarnold> alright cool cool; so, the error message you gave earlier said 'stream' -- you could edit the configs and look for 'stream' and change it to 'icecast2' and see if that helps
[21:56] <sarnold> but if the configs got the username wrong I wonder what else might need changing
[21:57] <MzR_Massey> I tried following another tutorial that suggested changing it to stream
[21:58] <sarnold> ah
[21:59] <MzR_Massey> changing it back
[22:00] <MzR_Massey> brb
[22:02] <pakcjo> hello, I'm having problems to change my default printer. I changed it via cups but lpstat -d keeps telling me the old printer, if I do sudo lpstat -d it still says the old printer, if I do sudo su and once as root I do lpstat -d it shows the one that is supposed to be the new default, not sure why, I already rebooted and still
[22:03] <sarnold> pakcjo: irc has line length limits, you may have been cut off at "rebooted and still"
[22:03] <pakcjo> sarnold: still can't set the default printer
[22:04] <mason> pakcjo: Did you look at lpadmin?
[22:05] <mason> pakcjo: man lpadmin, man lpoptions
[22:05] <pakcjo> mason: yes, same
[22:06] <sarnold> pakcjo: what's 'echo $PRINTER' and 'echo $LPDEST' report?
[22:07] <pakcjo> sarnold: both are empty
[22:07] <sarnold> dang.. :/ I figured this one would be easy to overlook
[22:08] <pakcjo> It's weird, as root it shows the correct printer, and it is configured as Default in /etc/cups/printers.conf no idea why it still reports a different default printer for my user
[22:09] <mason> pakcjo: And you have no ~/.cups/lpoptions ?
[22:09] <pakcjo> mason: oh that seems to be the one...
[22:10] <pakcjo> thanks mason!
[22:10] <mason> Sure, happy to help.
[22:11] <MzR_Massey> I'm back
[22:17] <MzR_Massey> changing the User back to icecast2 worked
[22:17] <MzR_Massey> but still have this coming up:  Couldn't find group "icecast2" in groups fileERROR: You should not run icecast2 as rootUse the changeowner directive in the config file
[22:19] <buck10> set irc.look.smart_filter on
[22:21] <sarnold> MzR_Massey: iirc the group is 'icecast'
[22:26] <MzR_Massey> awesome,. thank you
[22:28] <MzR_Massey> though I see these new errors:  root@hardcore-neumann:~# Changed groupid to 119.Changed supplementary groups based on user: icecast2.Changed userid to 114.FATAL: could not open error logging (/var/log/icecast/error.log): No such file or directoryFATAL: could not open access logging (/var/log/icecast/access.log): No such file or directoryFATAL:
[22:28] <MzR_Massey> Could not start logging
[22:31] <sarnold> MzR_Massey: it looks like the debian configuration logs into /var/log/icecase2 -- https://sources.debian.org/src/icecast2/2.4.4-3/debian/icecast2.postinst/#L73 -- probably the guide you followed had you change taht setting, too
[22:44] <MzR_Massey> Yeah, looks like i gotta do some searching to make sure the files exist
[22:45] <gestalt> Hey again.  I couldn't get Ubuntu to boot again so I have tried re-installing again, this time without disk encryption.  Now, as before, I can't boot at all.  I had found the second answer in the following worked until something seemed to happen...
[22:45] <gestalt> https://askubuntu.com/questions/883992/stuck-at-grub-command-line
[22:45] <MzR_Massey> thank you for your help today sarnald
[22:45] <gestalt> I can't believe it's so hard to get a fresh Ubuntu install to boot on a Dell XPS 13. :|
[22:46] <sarnold> MzR_Massey: it *might* be easier to purge the package, re-install it again, and not follow that guide :)