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[14:03] <xu-help14w> Hi I have a question about the start-up process of Xubuntu
[14:10] <diogenes_> !ask
[14:10] <ubottu> Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience
[14:53] <anotheryou> Hi, I'm a bit new to linux still. Any way I could get the fix for this here earlier than with the next xubuntu release in ~oktober? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/1838151
[14:53] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1838151 in pulseaudio (Ubuntu) "Poor quality audio with modern Bluetooth headsets in HSP/HFP. Missing wide band speech support." [Wishlist,In progress]
[14:55] <anotheryou> In general, is there any way I should keep xubuntu updated between releases?
[14:57] <diogenes_> !upgrade
[14:57] <ubottu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade
[15:00] <anotheryou> thanks diogenes_ . I'm up to date there :). Still would love to see this bug gone.
[15:01] <miu5> Hi, im having a bit of an issue the passed 2 months or so.  Everytime i update my packages via apt-get, after that i notice that all my file associations are fucked.  I have to then manually go and re-associate mp4's to open up with a specific player, pdf's to open up with a specific pdf reader, and well, you can see where im going with this...  Can anyone tell me what is causing the file disassociation everytime i update? Xubuntu 18.04
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[17:11] <christophergray> miu5: update-desktop-database -v /usr/share/applications /usr/local/share/applications
[17:21] <miu5> christophergray, if i try that - is it going to change any commands or settings *within* some of the "app.desktop" files here /usr/share/applications/ ?
[17:23] <christophergray> miu5: it will just create new mimeinfo.cache files in those two directories
[17:24] <christophergray> from the info in the .desktop files
[17:24] <miu5> christophergray, ok, so is there a possibility that the mime.cache is corrupt?
[17:24] <miu5> is that why its doing this all the time?
[17:26] <christophergray> maybe there's something wrong with your XDG-DATA-DIRS so it is not finding your .desktop files on upgrade
[17:28] <christophergray> most of your .desktop files are probably in those two directories, so I suggested specify them instead of use default for update-desktop-database
[17:28] <diogenes_> miu5, is 'save session' enabled?
[17:31] <miu5> diogenes_, if you are asking if the "Automatically save session on logout" checkbox is checked in the session & startup UI, its not.  Is that what you were referring to?
[17:33] <diogenes_> that and also settings editor > xfce4-session > SaveOnExit must be disabled.
[17:36] <miu5> diogenes_, yes that one's also disabled.
[17:38] <diogenes_> also check the logs .xce4-session.verbose-log present. and .xsession-errors
[17:38] <diogenes_> .xfce4-session.verbose-log*
[18:12] <lisbeths> My webcam is not detected
[18:13] <diogenes_> lisbeths, how do you know? builtin? usb? more info please.
[18:13] <lisbeths> It is builtin to my laptop monitor
[18:14] <lisbeths> I know because chrome says no camera detected and so does the cheese selfie app
[18:14] <lisbeths> Sometimes it works and sometimes like now it does not detect. I have rebooted.
[18:15] <diogenes_> sudo apt install guvcview
[18:15] <diogenes_> see if it's detected there.
[18:17] <lisbeths> Guvcview error no device found
[18:18] <diogenes_> lisbeths, has it worked after system installation?
[18:19] <lisbeths> Yes. let me actually try in a live environment.
[18:19] <lisbeths> I will return
[18:21] <lisbeths> I did a hard reboot and booted to my usb but my usb was borked so it booted into grub. Then I rebooted again into my hard disc to go and redownload the iso. Now the webcam works.
[18:22] <lisbeths> I didn't jiggle the laptop monitor at all it is definitely a software issue, but now I have to reproduce it :(
[18:22] <diogenes_> lisbeths, i wouldn't say "definitely".
[18:22] <lisbeths> I mean not a connectivity issue in the wiring
[18:23] <lisbeths> cause I did burn the back of this laptop on a stove
[18:23] <lisbeths> but I hadn't adjusted the monitor at all during that reboot so I am fairly certain that it was forcing it to fully reboot the bios that had done it
[18:24] <lisbeths> the thinkpad forums say to press fn + f6 for this model to enable the camera however they say that opens up a "menu" but that "menu" is for windows not for linux
[18:24] <lisbeths> so I think perhaps there is some keybind I had hit on accident which had caused the camera to be disabled by the hardware itself
[18:24] <diogenes_> nobody can tell for sure what the problem is unless a thorough diagnose will be made.
[18:24] <lisbeths> yeah... well hopefully this "fix" of a super hard reboot is reproducable
[18:25] <lisbeths> I cant test it anymore till the webcam fails again and thats rare
[18:26] <lisbeths> oh well there's nothing left to do. Thank you for the help.
[18:28] <diogenes_> IRC client for Emacs heh.
[19:07] <miu5> christophergray, i tried that command, but i get an error:  Could not create cache file in "/usr/local/share/applications": Error opening directory ?/usr/local/share/applications?: No such file or directory
[19:08] <miu5> i remember i used to have /usr/local/share/applications,  but now im a bit confused as to why that folder is missing..
[19:09] <miu5> christophergray, am i supposed to run update-desktop-database with sudo ?
[19:10] <miu5> also this error:   Could not create cache file in "/usr/share/applications": Permission denied
[19:12] <christophergray> miu5: don't worry about the /usr/local/share/applications, it means you didn't install stuff from source
[19:13] <christophergray> miu5: try 'sudo update-desktop-database -v'
[19:16] <miu5> christophergray, it says lacks MimeType key for each one
[19:18] <christophergray> I get the same thing here
[19:25] <miu5> so does this seem like a bug though?
[19:25] <christophergray> do you get a list to choose from if you do mimeopen -a /usr/share/alsa/utils.sh
[19:26] <christophergray> I get a list of 17 apps
[19:52] <miu5> christophergray, i get the following:
[19:52] <miu5> WARNING: You don't seem to have any mimeinfo.cache files.
[19:52] <miu5> Try running the update-desktop-database command. If you
[19:52] <miu5> don't have this command you should install the
[19:52] <miu5> desktop-file-utils package. This package is available from
[19:52] <miu5> http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/desktop-file-utils/
[19:52] <miu5> Please choose an application
[19:54] <miu5> sorry, here: https://bpa.st/raw/J45A
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[20:56] <christophergray> miu5: try it again after 'sudo update-desktop-database /usr/share/applications'
[20:57] <christophergray> or better, ls -l /usr/share/applications/mimeinfo.cache, or locate mimeinfo.cache
[20:59] <christophergray> print $XDG_DATA_DIRS/applications
[21:08] <miu5> christophergray, doing ls -l cmd it found it -rw------- 1 root root Aug 28 18:58 /usr/share/applications/mimeinfo.cache
[21:09] <miu5> and when you said i should try it again after 'sudo update-desktop-database /usr/share/applications',   i did, and i got the same result. as in the link i sent you
[21:09] <christophergray> mine has -rw-r--r-- permissions
[21:12] <christophergray> looks like you need to change the permissions to 644
[21:16] <christophergray> miu5: sudo chmod a+r /usr/share/applications/mimeinfo.cache
[21:30] <christophergray> ls -l /usr/share/ | grep applications
[21:31] <christophergray> should show drwxr-xr-x    2 root root  12288 Aug 28 13:17 applications/
[21:36] <christophergray> apt policy desktop-file-utils  should show  *** 0.23-1ubuntu3.18.04.2 500  on xubuntu 18.04
[21:38] <Bashing-om> !info desktop-file-utils bionic
[21:38] <ubottu> desktop-file-utils (source: desktop-file-utils): Utilities for .desktop files. In component main, is optional. Version 0.23-1ubuntu3.18.04.2 (bionic), package size 50 kB, installed size 250 kB
[21:55] <xu-help52w> evening
[21:55] <xu-help52w> im newbie switch from windows to linux and encountered a problem
[21:56] <xu-help52w> id like to stream from laptop to tv like i did on windows,is there an easy way to do this?
[22:02] <miu5> christophergray, do you know what wouldve changed my permissions?
[23:10] <christophergray> could have been the installer for the output of this command: ls -c /usr/share/applications | grep desktop | head -1
[23:10] <christophergray> miu5: or a buggy file system implementation, I just use ext4 here
[23:14] <christophergray> miu5: those are just wild guesses, though
[23:45] <miu5> christophergray, you still there?
[23:45] <christophergray> miu5: I'm back
[23:46] <miu5> christophergray, what do you mean by "could have been the installer for the output of this command: ls -c /usr/share/applications | grep desktop | head -1"   ?
[23:47] <christophergray> miu5: that shows the program last updated
[23:48] <miu5> christophergray, oh ok, but how do i know what was the program that changed the permissions? because i dont know when this even happened..
[23:49] <miu5> i mean is it possible to see when the permissions was changed?
[23:50] <christophergray> I don't really understand permissions much.  Are things working now?
[23:51] <miu5> christophergray, im also not sure if it should really show drwxr-xr-x    2 root root  12288 Aug 28 13:17 applications/ as you said... because i tried it on a fresh VM now and the VM says -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 16346 Jul 17 15:23 /usr/share/applications/mimeinfo.cache
[23:52] <miu5> well, no.. i mean i havent changed the permissions yet, cause i dont know what the actual default permissions should be..
[23:52] <christophergray> the drwxr-xr-x is for the folder '/usr/share/applications'
[23:52] <miu5> oh ok
[23:54] <christophergray> but that is probably okay since you can run apps
[23:54] <miu5> ok my '/usr/share/applications' is fine.. it wasnt modified
[23:55] <christophergray> the mimeinfo.cache needs to be readable by you, to work for you
[23:55] <miu5> do you think because the /usr/share/applications/mimeinfo.cache has wrong permissions thats why it keeps reverting back to default after apt-get update everytime ?.
[23:57] <christophergray> is there something in the mimeinfo.cache, sudo cat /usr/share/applications/mimeinfo.cache