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tatertotsbostongeek36: make another microSD of the same or different version(s) to rule things out00:06
Fenster`hey guys, is anyone else seeing timeouts when trying to apt-get update to azure.archive.ubuntu.com ?00:10
MaikFenster`: maybe it's related to the huge worldwide internet issue that took place  and things aren't quite normal yet?00:14
MaikFenster`: https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/30/tech/internet-outage-cloudflare/index.html00:15
bostongeek36ubuntu 20.04 doesnt run well on 1 gb of ram00:19
bostongeek36thats what i have00:19
bostongeek36so thats the issue00:19
bostongeek36ill check out xubuntu00:19
Maikbostongeek36: told you already in the other channel that you need at least 2GB of RAM for a smooth LXDE or Xfce desktop environment. So forget about Xubuntu which uses Xfce.00:22
Fenster`thank Maik00:23
Maikyw00:23
Maiktatertots:  he doesn't want to listen that 1GB just isn't sufficient enough for Lubuntu or Xubuntu. So expect him to come back complaining Xubuntu doesn't work smooth either. :)00:25
Maiki told him that in the raspberrypi channel00:25
holocronI made some progress on the above problem with mpath and lvm by carefully crafting an LVM filter, so LVM doesn't see duplicates, but attempting to activate the volume group now is failing with "device-mapper: reload ioctl on (253:8) failed: Device or resource busy"00:32
holocrondmesg shows `[ 2345.591422] device-mapper: table: 253:8: linear: Device lookup failed` - I am not using dmraid/mdadm00:42
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hyiszHi!02:32
hyiszIs someone here?02:33
Ascavasaionhyisz: If you have a question you should just ask and wait.  If someone is able to help they will.  Chaps in here are always very helpful in my experience.02:37
hyiszHello?02:39
gryhi hyisz :)02:39
hyiszomg finally02:40
hyiszI feel like a hacker!02:40
gryi don't know, it seems you missed Ascavasaion's response earlier. hi, welcome to ubuntu live chat. if you have a question, someone would be happy to help out. there is #ubuntu-offtopic for random chat and meeting new people02:41
AscavasaionGry said my name... swoon.02:42
hyiszOh I'm sorry... I'm trying to cope with irssi and its keybindings02:45
robertparkerxcan you install unrealircd with ubuntu02:46
hyiszI do have a question... I'm running ubuntu and installed lxqt and recently i3. I did purge and autoremove lxqt but I still have some apps like lxqt-about and lxqt-config02:46
robertparkerxI mean with a package manager02:46
hyiszMy question is, how can I remove that?02:46
robertparkerxNevermind02:57
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robertparkerxif I create a user and switch to the user will I be in that user home directory ?03:28
Bashing-omrobertparkerx: Wheather a new user directory is created depends on the command you invoked to make that new user account. see: ' man adduser ' .03:32
robertparkerxBashing-om ty03:37
robertparkerx$ sudo adduser test -- this wouldn't ?03:38
Bashing-omrobertparkerx: Uh Huh ^^ that will give "test" a /home :D03:40
robertparkerxNice03:41
robertparkerxif I `su test` will I be in the home directory ?03:41
robertparkerxfor test*03:41
Bashing-omrobertparkerx: no - that permits you to execute a command as another user than "you" .03:44
robertparkerxBashing-om so I would have to cd /home/test03:49
Bashing-omrobertparkerx: Generally one reboots - and at the login screen choose the alternate user to login.03:50
robertparkerxBashing-om it's ubuntu server04:04
Bashing-omrobertparkerx: then at the login terminal give the new user "name" and the related password to login as that new user.04:07
robertparkerxBashing-om I want passwordless user because it will just run a service04:09
robertparkerxI use that with other but this one is kinda different04:09
robertparkerxIt's unrealird04:09
robertparkerxwith anope services04:09
Bashing-omrobertparkerx: Sorry, no idea there :(04:11
lotuspsychjerobertparkerx: ubuntu server, you can use the #ubuntu-server channel, you know that dont you!04:13
robertparkerxno04:15
robertparkerxSorry04:15
kzimmermannhello, I hard-rebooted my machine and now my MOC client (mocp) won't start anymore. It has the following error: "FATAL_ERROR: No valid sound driver!" but when I try alsamixer, it seems to run OK. What could possibly trigger this issue?04:57
Dash|RDOkay, so I have some questions, and hopefully you fine people can help me out.05:05
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Dash|RDAnyway, I'm trying to improve my g/f's laptop by installing the latest version of Ubuntu on it.05:08
Dash|RDBut the stupid thing won't boot from usb05:08
Dash|RDSo I'm going the PXE NIC boot way.05:08
Dash|RDWhich involved a lot of learning, and the downloading of the program serva.05:09
Dash|RDIt's worked really well.05:09
Dash|RDExcept the installer, when you get to the point where you choose the type of install you want.05:09
Dash|RDIt freezes and locks up when I click on continue.05:09
Dash|RDEverything up to that point works awesomely.05:09
Dash|RDOkay. I'll try a different distribution.05:14
bradd_Hi. I just installed an amd video card (old card was nvidia). Now I keep getting 'NVRM: No NVIDIA graphics adapter found!' in dmesg. Not really sure how to disable the old nvidia drivers05:31
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chikkorollhey yall how do i get a manual page for alist in irc06:44
rud0lf/msg alis help06:45
BustinHey there, have a weird issue, my laptop sound works, but is very low. I have checked with alsamixer, and all levels are max. I tested headphones, even volume on a bluetooth headset, is low, when levels are all cranked, and even "amplified over 100%"06:45
chikkorollthanks06:45
rud0lfmp06:46
rud0lfoh sorry, my pleasure*06:46
chikkorolloops06:46
Bustinalso, anyone know of an extension for gnome, which adds support to collapse the system tray ?06:48
Bustinso many icons.06:48
rud0lfAllTray maybe?06:50
Bustinrud0lf, never heard of it, where can I find this? quick google search is inconsistent06:51
Bustinoh, gnome-look06:52
Bustinmy bad.06:52
rud0lfapt install alltray should work06:52
Bustinrud0lf, alltray did not work, thanks for the suggestion.07:07
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ld50is there a switch to stop casper from checksumming all files on the install iso? i'm debugging my autoinstaller and checksumming everything every time really takes time08:20
lotuspsychjeld50: ctrl + c should do the trick08:21
ld50lotuspsychje: doesn't seem to work when autoinstall is engaged08:21
ld50i tried08:21
lotuspsychjeld50: is that on server iso or so?08:21
ld50lotuspsychje: yep, server iso08:21
lotuspsychjeah right, i think i recall other users mentioning that too08:22
ld50would fsck.mode=skip help? the md5sums are not fsck, strictly speaking...08:22
lotuspsychjeld50: try in #ubuntu-server please, dont recall whats the solution for that08:22
ld50lotuspsychje: will do, thx08:22
lotuspsychjewelcome08:22
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Paddy_NII switched from gdm to sddm for my login greeter as the login prompt appears on a display that is not my primary display.  One of the problems I have encountered (running Ubuntu 20.04) is that I now no longer have the ability to lock the screen.  Would anyone have any solutions for this?09:41
guivercPaddy_NI, you could try xscreensaver; lubuntu uses it to handle locking09:57
Paddy_NIguiverc, Oh that rings a bell!  Thank you I will give that a go.09:57
guivercyou cam have xscreensaver just turn off screen, ie. nothing visible09:58
Paddy_NIguiverc, I've just done that and it works really well.  It would be a bonus if it locked the screen too10:10
Paddy_NII guess I am trying to patch together functionality that I was previously getting with GDM lol10:11
Paddy_NIIt's a shame that GDM did not let you dictate which display(s) it appeared on.10:11
guivercIn my screensaver preferences I can set "lock screen after"; did you look in preferences for settings?10:12
Paddy_NII did guiverc however it only blanks the screen. If I come back to it whilst it is blanked out and activate the mouse/keyboard etc it just goes straight back to the desktop without hesitation.10:13
Paddy_NIMy only option at the moment if I want security would be to turn the pc off10:14
guivercyou don't have autologin enabled do you?10:14
Paddy_NINever10:14
Paddy_NIIf I choose to logout it just sits there displaying the sddm greeter indefinitely. I cannot imagine this being good for energy consumption or the health of a display :-/10:15
guivercyou may need to set `-lock` on initial run.. ie. autostart option that starts it, maybe this will help10:15
guiverchttps://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/XScreenSaver10:15
guiverchold on, looking to see if my system has easy to see options..10:16
Paddy_NII keep forgetting the arch wiki like some kind of idiot. Thank you :-)10:16
BluesKajHi all10:16
Paddy_NIHey BluesKaj10:16
BluesKajhey Paddy_NI10:16
guivercPaddy_NI, sorry I can't use mine as example; my system was lubuntu with LXDE upgraded to now groovy, and still has LXDE crud remaining I just discovered; it's still using light-locker (another option maybe)10:18
guivercI'd have to boot a cleaner lubuntu system to explore options, can't currently sorry Paddy_NI10:19
Paddy_NIguiverc, I have an idea that would make me happy, I just confirmed that "xscreensaver-command -lock" locks the screen and displays a password prompt (not very pretty but kinda retro) so if I was to set "super key + L" as "xscreensaver-command -lock" that would be awesome10:19
Paddy_NIguiverc, Honestly don't worry too much about it, I am just grateful for any solution10:19
Paddy_NIThank you10:19
guivercyeah I agree I too am no fan of how xscreensaver lock works; I'd forgotten as I guess I'm usually seeing light-locker10:20
AcruHey, my mother is having problems with her notebook (thinkpad e485) where the network printer, an officejet pro 6800, keeps getting deactivated and has to be reactivated manually, does somebody know why this might be?10:20
Paddy_NIIt won't accept "super +L" however it did accept "ctrl + alt + L"10:21
lotuspsychjeAcru: wich ubuntu release was this?10:21
guivercs/xscreensaver works/xscreensaver lock looks/ ^ sorry10:21
Paddy_NII think I can mark this a solved for now, I just need to punch that key combo when I get up from the desk.10:22
Acrulotuspsychje: 18.0410:23
Acruand its a e585, sorry10:23
Paddy_NIIt would be nice if I could customise the lock screen password prompt for xscreensaver although I really should learn when to stop and just get on with it10:23
guivercPaddy_NI, as stated; my/this box uses light-locker; so that could be an alterantive (it'll look different)10:26
Paddy_NII am reading up on that as we speak :-)10:26
guivercmaybe I was wrong, I just locked my screen, on login I got xscreensaver login for passwd... maybe light-locker won't help; that maybe wild goose chase10:28
Paddy_NIDoes light-locker require LightDM and if so does LightDM display the login greeter on each monitor or does it let you choose which display it appears on10:28
Paddy_NIAh10:28
Paddy_NICool10:28
Paddy_NIlightdm lets you specify which display it appears on according to the arch wiki10:29
guivercPaddy_NI, I don't know, as stated; this is my primary box which was older lubuntu (lxde) upgraded to each 6 months now groovy; lxde to lxqt isn't supported b/c crud & issues can remain... so my having light-locker is likely crud; and I do have lightdm installs (I use sddm; i didn't know I had lightdm either)10:31
guiverc(sorry for wording, I'm tired)10:31
Paddy_NIYeah no worries at all this does look to be a bit of a Rabbit hole, I shall persevere with "xscreensaver-command -lock" being mapped to "ctrl + alt + l" until these issues are addressed.10:32
Paddy_NIThank you10:32
k_sze`do-release-upgrade -c` from bionic still shows no upgrade available. :/10:34
k_szeAnybody knows how it's coming along?10:34
k_szeThe upgrade tools from bionic to focal, I mean.10:35
lotuspsychjek_sze: https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/focal-fossa-20-04-1-lts-point-release-status-tracking/1760410:41
k_szenice. thanks!10:42
h4ll0w33nhi to all10:44
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lotuspsychjeAcru: did you install hplip?10:51
lalitmeeHello Guys, I updated from Ubuntu 18.04 to 20.04 with -d tag. someone was telling me that I would need a live usb with Ubuntu 20.04 to fix the problem which I was facing. I have the live usb now but I don't know what to do to fix the things which are messed up in my ubuntu 20.04 like I can see my settings in the applications10:58
Acrulotuspsychje yes11:37
hylianI'm trying to find and save all the packages and dependencies for those packages into a folder that I have installed so I can use that to install a wifi driver without internet. someone pointed me in the direction of apt-clone, but that's useless to me because I don't want a list of installed apps, I want the apps themselves, the .deb files... anyone have an idea how to accomplish this? (not var/cache,11:55
hylianthat doesn't have any of the stuff I need to accomplish my task)11:55
hylianI found a dirty solution to my problem, i'm going to use timeshift. thanks for being here... :)12:01
lorenxhello, i just logged in into my ubuntu 20.04 installation today and i see my login screen and my top bar font bigger, anyone experiencing the same?12:23
lorenxi found this but it didn't fix: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1271394/gnome-logs-in-with-display-scaling-problem12:24
lotuspsychjelorenx: its a known mutter bug they working on12:37
lorenxjust happened today?12:37
lotuspsychjelorenx: bug #189252112:37
ubottubug 1892521 in mutter (Ubuntu) "Shell text is too big in mutter 3.36.4-0ubuntu0.20.04.2" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189252112:37
lotuspsychjeno12:37
lorenxdo you know why i am seeing it today? an updated package maybe?12:38
lotuspsychjelorenx: did you wait long to update?12:39
lorenxi didn't think so but maybe i did12:39
lotuspsychjelorenx: you can check that in your dpkg logs, if it recently updated mutter12:40
lorenxanyway, temporarily setting the text-scaling-factor to 1.01 and back to 1.00 fixed12:40
lorenxyeah, updated on 2020-08-3012:40
lorenxyesterday, but i rebooted today, that's why i guess12:41
lotuspsychjeand you have an nvidia card?12:41
lorenxyeah, i do12:41
lotuspsychjeyeah so prob thats gonna be it, please affect yourself if you like to the bug12:41
lorenxthank you for your help12:42
lotuspsychjewelcome lorenx12:42
lotuspsychjeAcru: i had some issues with a newer model of HP on 18.04, i had to download a latest hplip to get things working, maybe related to yours?12:44
lotuspsychjeAcru: this was my bug about it bug #181239212:50
ubottubug 1812392 in hplip (Ubuntu) "Hplip does not recognize HP color laserjet PRO MFP m181fw" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181239212:50
furycd001HI Guys. I have a Lenovo ideapad 330 with Xubuntu 18.04.05 running kernel 5.3.0-51-generic. It keeps randomly locking up & I have to hard reboot using the power button. Anyone here able to read this syslog & help me fix my problem ??13:00
furycd001Heres the syslog >> http://termbin.com/8jpo13:00
masonfurycd001: That looks a bit like https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10419213:04
ubottuFreedesktop bug 104192 in DRM/AMDgpu "[amdgpu][VEGA10] regular lockups with VM_L2_PROTECTION_FAULT_STATUS" [Major,Resolved: fixed]13:04
masonnot seeing that specific status13:05
furycd001@mason: thanks for the link. Looking at it now. Is there anyway I can prevent / stop these lockups from happening ??13:06
masonfurycd001: I'd want to try another kernel, myself. Can you go back to the 18.04 default kernel, which is 4.15, and see if it does it there? A comparison would be great for bug reports.13:06
masonI'm guessing that 5.3 is HWE?13:07
lotuspsychjefurycd001: that doesnt look like the right kernel for 18.0413:07
masonlotuspsychje: Is it HWE maybe?13:07
furycd001Booting up the laptop now to double check the kernel....13:07
lotuspsychje!info linux-image-generic-HWE-18.0413:07
ubottulinux-image-generic-hwe-18.04 (source: linux-meta): Generic Linux kernel image (dummy transitional package). In component main, is optional. Version 5.4.0.42.46 (focal), package size 1 kB, installed size 17 kB13:08
masonHrm, not HWE then.13:08
masonfurycd001: Either go back to the stock kernel or forward to the current HWE and see if the issue persists.13:08
furycd001How do I move the kernel forward to the most current one available ??13:09
lotuspsychjefurycd001: think you need to find the rootcause of why you still got 5.313:10
masonfurycd001: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack13:10
lotuspsychjefurycd001: you still got old repos in your sources?13:11
furycd001The laptop actually belongs to my wife & she'd been having these lockups for a while but never thought to say anything. Ima gona check the reops now to see....13:12
briscdoes ubuntu use insmod?13:16
briscubuntu 16.04.713:16
furycd001Ok so I just looked at that link & ran the code. It says that everything is already installed & at the newest version.....13:19
furycd001Here's the output of the reops >> http://termbin.com/0ykx13:19
lotuspsychjefurycd001: pastebin: dpkg --list | grep linux-image please13:22
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furycd001@lotuspaycje: Here you go >> http://termbin.com/bvs613:26
lotuspsychjefurycd001: seems like you do have 5.4 thats the kernel version you should be booting right now13:33
furycd001How can I tell which one the laptop is booting from ?13:33
BluesKajuname -r13:35
furycd001@BluesKaj: Thanks :)13:36
BluesKajyw13:36
furycd001The laptop is booted & uname -r outouts 5.3.0-53-generic13:36
briscwhat's the proper way to load modules in Ubuntu 16.04.7 ?13:37
lotuspsychjebrisc: modprobe modulename13:41
BluesKajbrisc, i just use sudo modprobe nameofmodule, but that's usually for a driver, not sure if that's "proper" or not13:42
lotuspsychjebrisc: ubuntu should be loading modules on boot, if not you should investigate why the module doesnt load first13:42
briscModule loads but i need to reload it13:52
brisccifs not playing nice with one of our vendors13:52
furycd001Ohh I've also just noticed that whenever I turned the laptop off there, everything turned off but the power & numlock lights both stayed on & I again had to hold down the power button to turn them off....14:05
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neurehi14:36
neureI am trying to install ubuntu on dell xps 7390 laptop14:37
neureright after the boot menu I get error: file '/casper/vmlinuz' not found.14:37
neureerror: you need to load the kernel first.14:37
neureI think the the installer/grub might be trying to access the wrong drive14:38
neuregrub> ls prints me (memdisk) (hd0) (hd0,apple2) (hd0,apple1) (hd0,msdos2) (hd1) (hd1,gpt6) (hd1,gpt5) (hd1,gpt4) (hd1,gpt3) (hd1,gp2) (hd1,gpt1)14:39
neureI wonder if the usb drive is not seen by grub for some reason?14:40
daftjackUbuntu 18, KDE plasma. "Activity in session "Default"" keeps popping up every 5-30 seconds. I did nothing. Its been fine and suddenly started doing this an hour ago. 30 minutes spent trying to find out wtf or at least SITFU. Anyonw know how to disable this wihtout turning off all notifications?14:40
daftjackIt interrupts typing, mouse movement etc. Making it nigh impossible to work. LOL14:41
ledenineure: which iso you put on your usb and did you checksum iso14:41
neure20.04.1 and I created it with Etcher, I believe it does checksum14:42
iguestdaftjack@ You must have inadvertently pressed Shift + ctrl + I. Press it again to switch it off.14:43
daftjackThink I found it. For some reason the system just decided on its own to enable notifications about activity in a hidden session so if you tail a damn log in a tab it constantly pops this up. Fine except *I* didnt turn this on.14:43
daftjackNo I pressed that on purpose for use inside an application. wow. Time to remap that.14:43
daftjackBut Ive been using said app for months.14:44
iguestMmm - Don't know what to say.14:44
neureI'll try to recreate the boot media..14:46
daftjackLooking through standard, global and custom shortcuts I dont see that configured. The only reference to "notifications" has nothing set.14:47
daftjackAh so its an embedded shortcut inside kconsole it seems. Must have had mouse over the window. No way to apparently disable the shortcut as none are shown. Nor are they in notifications. Annoying. Have to remembe that. Thanks iquest.14:54
daftjackOddly enmough I can enable it with the shortcut but not disable. Have to do so manually in the notifications dialog.14:56
Doc-SaintlyOn my Lenovo laptop where the function keys are always switched in media mode instead of F# key mode, I noticed that when I remote into the machine and press F1 on a regular keyboard (so it's really F1) it comes through on the machine as a media key still.15:13
Doc-SaintlyI assume this means That somewhere in the software side it is converting the F# keys to the media functions. How would I figure out where?15:14
hanshis anyone here running Desktop Ubuntu 18.04 or 20.04? can you run > update-alternatives --get-selections | pastebinit15:14
oerhekshansh, why? i am not giving away my config.15:15
hanshoerheks, i want to know if any of those are pointing to "nautilus", and if so, what's their config name?15:16
hanshwhat about: update-alternatives --get-selections | grep -i nautilus | wc -l15:16
oerheksno. you try; update-alternatives --config file-manager15:17
hanshupdate-alternatives: error: no alternatives for file-manager15:18
hanshguess that's what i get for running Xubuntu15:18
hansh(you sure it's not `x-file-manager` or something like that though?)15:19
bublsHello! I have ran into a problem with Ubuntu 18.04. After every ~1.5 seconds there is a video lag for ~0.1-0.2 seconds (if I make circles with my mouse or watch any videos, I can see screen freeze / lag). My GPU is GTX1660, so I downgraded from 440 driver to 390 driver, I tried to sync with monitor from Nvidia settings, my kernel is 5.4.0-42-generic - any ideas on what else I could try?15:21
bublsdmesg -T and journalctl -b seem clean to me.15:22
lotus|NUCbubls: there is a recent known mutter bug in combo with nvidia, but not sure that would be related to video lags15:24
bublsOh, okay. I was on 20.04 before and didn't see such lag there.15:25
bublsBTW, if it helps anyhow - sound is not lagging, so it's not a full system problem, more like just video. I also disabled gnome-system-monitor. . . Thinking about it, maybe I should try to switch to Unity etc?15:26
oerheks hansh i think this command needs sudo15:27
hanshroot@dev2020:/home/hans# sudo update-alternatives --config file-manager15:27
hanshupdate-alternatives: error: no alternatives for file-manager15:27
oerheksso, you have only nautilus?15:28
hanshno, i have Thunar, Xubuntu use "Thunar" instead of "Nautilus"15:28
lotus|NUCbubls: has your nvidia driver loaded correctly? sudo lshw -C video ?15:28
ioriahansh, are you sure  you can use 'update-alternatives'  with file managers  ?15:29
bublslotus|NUC, VGA comatible controller, NVIDIA corporation, driver=nvidia latency=015:29
hanshioria, no i'm not sure. i thought a good way to check was to check for references to "nautilus" from "update-alternatives --get-selections"  - but so far nobody's been willing to try it, and i don't have access to a desktop ubuntu system myself, but at least on Xubuntu there's no references there to Thunar15:30
bublsHmm, but it seems I'm running on 435 instead, not 39015:31
hanshhow can i check programmatically what the local file manager is called? (eg nautilus on Ubuntu or thunar on Xubuntu)15:31
ioriahansh, i'd try to use xdg-mime and gsettings15:31
lotus|NUCbubls: sounds good15:32
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bublshansh, are you maybe looking for 'xdg-open .' ?15:32
hanshbubls, yeah seems so, thanks15:32
hanshxdg-open does exactly what i want lol15:33
hanshdoes xdg-open run nautilus on Ubuntu? (it runs Thunar on Xubuntu)15:33
bublsxdg-open file OR xdg-open . on any linux should open file manager.15:33
hanshthanks15:33
bublsWish my problems were so easy to solve as well : )15:34
lotus|NUCbubls: nothing to trace on journalctl -f in realtime?15:34
bublslotus|NUC, Will take a look15:35
lotus|NUCbubls: you got ubuntu-restricted-extras installed? video lag on vlc or YT? or both?15:37
bublslotus|NUC, it just keeps logging internal TDMS ... hmm | /usr/lib/gdm3/gdm-x-session[1543]: (--) NVIDIA(GPU-0): AAA (DFP-4): Internal TMDS | and | /usr/lib/gdm3/gdm-x-session[1543]: (--) NVIDIA(GPU-0): AAA (DFP-4): 600.0 MHz maximum pixel clock15:37
lotus|NUCbubls: keeps logging as in flooding your journal?15:37
bublslotus|NUC, restricted extras now installed, lag even on desktop (when I move my mouse). And yes, flooding journal.15:38
lotus|NUCbubls: check if its bug #187656515:39
ubottubug 1876565 in nvidia-graphics-drivers-440 (Ubuntu) "logon screen take minutes to appear after logging off or switching user once system has been running for a few days" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/187656515:39
bublslotus|NUC, so I should try logging off?15:39
lotus|NUCbubls: not sure, never seen this bug before15:41
lotus|NUCbubls: can you htop to see if xorg 100% cpu aswell?15:42
bublslotus|NUC, neh, CPU is chilling.15:45
lotus|NUCbubls: did you try a user switching like on the bug?15:46
bublslotus|NUC, not yet, I tried unplugging my second monitor - no help.15:47
coconutSince when konversation does not install the whole kdebase thing anymore?15:50
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leibniz[m]How to know which app has come from which PPA?16:05
lotus|NUCleibniz[m]: apt policy packagename16:11
oerheksleibniz[m], nautilus can filter that, or apt-cache policy <package>16:12
leibniz[m]lotus|NUC thanks16:13
bublslotus|NUC, I fixed it ... real facepalm moment here16:13
lotus|NUCbubls: what was it?16:14
bublslotus|NUC, HDMI for one of my screens wasn't plugged in solid enough.16:14
lotus|NUCah that explains the flood16:14
lotus|NUCgood to know16:14
bublsI spent 2 days on this tho...16:14
KowWHen will ubuntu fix the bug that was fixed in Fedora months ago? This impacts 100% of LXDE users because lxde requires pcmanfm https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=179719316:18
ubottubugzilla.redhat.com bug 1797193 in pcmanfm "System shutdown or reboot is delayed by 1 minute and 30 seconds" [Unspecified,Closed: errata]16:18
KowThe ubuntu bug has been open since May... no action by any ubuntu dev: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pcmanfm/+bug/187862516:19
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1878625 in pcmanfm (Ubuntu) "PCManFM 1.3.1 in Ubuntu 20.04 hangs for 90 seconds on reboot/shutdown" [Undecided,Confirmed]16:19
Kowthat should have been a critical 20.04.1 milestone bug16:19
bublsKow, don't use lxde? (I'm not part of Ubuntu support, just random user)16:22
prappl93Kow, should that be posted to the Lubuntu dev channel instead?16:24
Kowprappl93: thanks i will post it there. I am actually going to add the damn patch to the bug report. If Lubuntu team still doesn't want to fix it then it's just pure laziness.. I tied your shoe now all you need to do is stand up16:25
en1gmai have a dell laptop with hybrid graphics. intel 4th gen hd and nvidia m2200. im on ubuntu 20.04 amd64 live "Try Ubuntu". im booted up right now. 'glxgears' makes no difference when i change which card im using with 'prime-select nvidia/intel'16:25
en1gmai have tried to use "Additional Drivers" to manually pcik the nvidia 4.50 driver and it says it does16:26
en1gmai logout and log back in but it dont seem to work16:27
en1gmado i need to fully restart???16:27
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en1gmai dont want to do that since im running live16:28
en1gmaam i in the right channel? no one is talking?16:29
bublsen1gma, yes, you are in the right channel, what version of ubuntu?16:29
en1gmaubuntu 20.04 lts daily16:30
en1gmabooting with "try ubuntu" option16:30
bublsen1gma, lshw -c video shows nvidia?16:30
en1gma1 sec16:32
en1gmahttps://pastebin.com/EH5M9Tpb16:32
bublsen1gma, without "shows nvidia" just lshw -c video"16:33
bublsen1gma, without "shows nvidia" just lshw -c video16:33
en1gmahttps://pastebin.com/RRGKCCBD16:34
en1gmasorry both that16:34
en1gmaubuntu@ubuntu:~$ prime-select querynvidia16:36
en1gma= nvidia16:36
bublsen1gma, hmm - seems like you have both drivers properly installed.16:37
en1gmai switch drivers in the "Additional Drivers" section and it says i am switched but the "Nvidia-Settings" opens up with no info in it16:37
en1gmado i need to restart when i switch from noeveu to nvidia binary driver? all i did was logout and login16:38
bublsen1gma, if I run glxgears I get '375 frames in 5.0 seconds = 187.974 FPS'16:38
en1gmawhat is your gpu?16:39
bublsen1gma, safest way would be to restart if you are running the live image from USB and it has some room to save the changes.16:39
bublsen1gma, GTX 166016:39
en1gmai think my glxgears is capped at 60fps16:39
en1gma301 frames in 5.0 seconds = 60.042 FPS16:40
bublsen1gma, wait what. 375/5 = 75 - where did it get that 187? : O16:41
bubls(from my paste)16:41
en1gma:)16:41
bublsWell. en1gma software-properties-gtk - from there select nvidia drivers, then ' sudo ubuntu-drivers devices' and check that nvidia is selected, also please paste your nvidia driver version.16:43
en1gmahttps://pastebin.com/62ZK3Z2F16:45
bublsen1gma, did you select 450 driver from gtk?16:45
en1gmawhere it shows in "Additional Drivers" yep. the 450 meta (recommended)16:46
en1gmawhy is it not showing it correct in 'sudo ubuntu-drivers devices'?16:46
bublsBut it is ...16:48
en1gmaoh ok so when i use 'prime-select intel' or 'prime-select nvidia' glxgears is not changing the frames per second16:49
en1gmai dont think its switching16:49
en1gmamy laptop has an hdmi out cable going to samsung monitor16:49
en1gmathe built-in display uses intel?16:49
en1gmai wonder if i should restart with the external display disconnected16:51
bublsAha16:51
en1gmalet me reboot and come back. :)16:51
en1gmathanks16:51
bublsWell if you use nvidia as default for X screen, then it should work. I advise a restart.16:52
bublsheh. better late than never? :)16:52
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bublsWell... I guess en1gma is not booting any more? : D17:12
captain_protonI have a weird problem after a reboot my user does not show up in GDM i am able to log in using other user. I search the web but nothing seem to fix it17:27
ioriacaptain_proton, /var/lib/AccountsService/users17:27
captain_protonioria, thanks some how I got set as a system account17:30
ioriacaptain_proton, ok17:31
prappl93Well, bubls, looks like you didn't end up bricking en1gma's set up completely17:37
en1gmabubls i had to get the ubuntu 20.04.1 lts daily build. i also disconnected my external hdmi.17:37
en1gmacan we continue?17:37
en1gma'prime-select query' = nvidia17:38
en1gma'glxgears' = 301 frame in 5 seconds = 60fps17:39
bublsStill no change in gears?17:39
bublsprappl93, bricking live image? : ) That would be something.17:39
en1gmajust not sure how to complete the change from noeveu to nvidia binary without restarting17:39
en1gmado i need to logout and login? the 'nvidia-settings' is not populated with any info17:40
Captain_Protonioria, spoke to soon change my account to false reboot and switch but to System. I was looking for a usermod command but did not see one. Can you point me in the right way?17:40
en1gmai mean i tried logging out and in and that didnt do anything17:40
tatertotsen1gma: restart x or reboot17:42
en1gmahow can i do that from a live enviroment17:42
en1gma"Try Ubuntu"17:42
tatertotsen1gma: a live environment is read only you won't use nvidia driver on livecd/liveusb17:43
en1gmadang. i was hoping i could by logging out and in17:43
en1gmais there any pre-made images that have the nvidia binary enabled by default for live enviroment17:44
en1gmaor is there a boot time command i can give?17:44
Mr_Singh_Hi, I am using ubuntu 18.04.4 LTS , Can I upgrade it to 20.04 because some latest c++ libs and compiler is missing in 18.04.417:44
tatertotsen1gma: no ..someone that didn't even have nvidia would be trying to use it17:45
en1gmais there a way i can install ubuntu to usb flash and it work correctly? i dont think a persistant will work with loading the nvidia binary17:46
Mr_Singh_anyone please17:48
gildartsMr_Singh_: https://ubuntu.com/blog/how-to-upgrade-from-ubuntu-18-04-lts-to-20-04-lts-today17:49
Mr_Singh_gildarts : Is it safe17:50
Mr_Singh_I mean all my IDE will remains in the system or it will be deleted after up gradation17:51
bublsen1gma, what do you want to achieve? Maybe try VM?17:52
gildartsMr_Singh_: Usually. The linked article talks about how to make backups, possible considerations. Your IDE should be fine, assuming it is updated to work on the current version etc. Can't promise it is 100% safe, but is usually fine.17:53
en1gmabulbs im trying to get opencl to work on the nvidia17:54
en1gmafor fft display17:54
bublsen1gma, okay, 1) if you type 'bub' in irc and press tab it auto-completes my name 2) do you have sudo apt install ocl-icd-libopencl1 installed?17:56
en1gmabubls checking17:58
en1gmai see it but it is not installed17:59
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en1gmais that for the intel chip?18:00
Conradish006Dost anybody know how to install Ubuntu without the grub bootloader?18:01
Conradish006I've tried several different ways listed on the internet, but it never seems to work18:02
Conradish006It seems to automagicaly install it no matter what I do18:03
jpdsConradish006: I think GRUB is the only supported way of loading Ubuntu18:03
jpdss18:04
jpdsnot there18:04
Conradish006But, I don't want to bootloader, because I run OpenCore, and then the NVMe drive that I have throws errors whenever I start up.18:04
Conradish006Which means that I have to go into the boot selecter just to boot into my main drive18:05
amuroHow to install swfrender?18:06
Conradish006Would this method work? https://smarttechnicalworld.com/remove-grub-bootloader-from-windows/18:08
ikoniawhy not just run a standard boot process18:09
ikoniaamuro: what does the documentation say18:09
oerheksConradish006, normally we advise to boot the windows iso, and run repair.18:10
oerheksthen remove ubuntu, if that is your goal18:11
bublsOh damn, en1gma just quit again : /18:11
oerheksbubls, please keep the language in this channel family friendly, thanks18:12
bublsoerheks, sorry, didn't realize da... isn't family friendly, not my native tongue. : (18:13
amuroikonia: what do you mean?18:16
ikoniaamuro: exactly that, you're asking how to install something, that does the documentation say18:16
oerhekshint: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/eoan/en/man1/swfrender.1.html18:17
Doc-SaintlyIs there a way to make it so a directory only exists if something is mounted to it? I'm having an issue with a sync application that assumes all files has been deleted because the directory is empty if it's not mounted.18:35
gildartsIf the folder isn't there when it is unmounted, wouldn't the sync application assume the entire folder was deleted?18:36
Doc-Saintlygildarts, well, it's the "root" of the share, so it's smart enough to realize then that the thing it's supposed to sync doesn't exist.18:37
Doc-Saintlybut if it exists but is empty, then it assumes all the files have been deleted18:37
gildartsWhat sync utility is it and how it is it being run? Thinking it might make sense to wrap it in a shell script to check if it is mounted before running the sync. Don't know of a way to make the folder only exist when something is mounted.18:38
Doc-Saintlygildarts, it's the Nextcloud sync client.18:39
Doc-SaintlyAnd yea, I thought about that - but I am still nervous about accidentally launching the sync application when things aren't "all set up"18:39
oerhekssimpel; don't autostart nextcloud?18:39
Doc-Saintlyof course, but I'm talking about the whole human "forgetting" thing :)18:39
Doc-Saintlybecause even if I set up the start-up script, what about a restart? the mount point would still exist18:40
Doc-SaintlyI can't guarantee that the mount point would be removed unless there's some built in thing I can't think of18:40
gildartsMake the nextcloud sync client depend on a systemd unit mounting the share?18:40
ikoniawhy not just put the drive in fstab18:43
ikoniaor use autom ount18:43
ikoniaso it's always mounted18:43
ikoniaor start the sync manually if/when the drive in mounted18:43
Doc-Saintlyikonia, because it's an encrypted volume that needs a password18:44
oerheksjust don't autostart that cloud thingy.. seems like a non-issue to me18:44
ikoniathen why are you syncing data this way18:44
ikoniayou''re using a model that depends on a file system to keep in sync, but using a system where the file system will not be there18:44
gildartsencrypted volume... nextcloud sync... that seems pointless.18:45
ikoniaindeed18:45
Doc-Saintlyyes... why would I want to have a local copy of all my data18:45
Doc-Saintlyin case you know... I don't have internet..18:45
Doc-Saintly.and why would I want to encrypt all my of my data sitting on a portable drive. how silly.18:45
gildartsKeeping something that is auto syncing on an external drive seems not great either.18:46
Doc-Saintlygildarts, well on Windows, it doesn't sync because it can see the drive isn't mounted18:46
Doc-Saintlybut on Linux, the nature of mounting the drive leaves the directory there but empty.18:46
Doc-Saintlyhonestly it doesn't sync all the time, but just when I plug it in to grab a big file quickly, or when I plug it in to prep for a trip somewher with limited internet18:47
Doc-Saintlypersonally I think the Nextcloud client should give some sort of warning before dumping all the files if it sees an empty directory - it should be able to see that it's mounted. But I'm chasing that up with them separately :)18:48
xtaosyncthing uses a folder marker to prevent that. if an empty .stfolder directory doesn't exist then it will refuse to do anything with it18:49
Doc-Saintlyxtao, and Backblaze also uses a .bzvol directory for storing some drive data (like the cache for the drive)18:50
Doc-SaintlyI just felt like this can't be the only case where the mount point being present without the target being available is problematic - so I was hoping there might be a more automatic fix. :)18:51
Doc-SaintlyThanks for the feedback all :)18:51
ikoniathere are lots of automatic fixes18:51
Doc-Saintlyikonia, ooh, do tell :D18:52
ikoniaputting dependencies on the automounter for the startup of the sync client, putting an inotify flag into the file system that triggers the sync,18:53
ikoniasetting up a better way to unlock the drive so that it doesn't require human interaction18:53
Doc-Saintlyikonia, yes I've considered getting Veracrypt to auto mount from the LUKS encryption on the main drive18:54
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Doc-Saintlyis it just me, or is `crypttab` not really much different than putting my password in a script file that mounts things? Both are storing the password in plaintext and presume that it can't be accessed (because it's encrypted)19:12
oerhekspassword in a script file, will be accessable.19:15
Doc-Saintlyoerheks, wont the crypttab file as well?19:58
gildartsIf you have your system encrypted, it prevents offline access. Still have the problem of someone taking the machine while you are logged in, but it helps minimize it.20:02
gildartsAnd if someone can take the machine from you while logged in, you have the wrench problem.20:03
gildarts(wrench problem https://xkcd.com/538/ )20:03
Doc-Saintlyyep of course. but couldn't they view /crypttab the same way they could view the script? Or it defaults to needing sudo access?20:07
gildartsYou can check the read permissions using ls -la /crypttab20:09
gildartsDon't know enough about crypttab to tell you.20:09
Doc-Saintlyah, I assume it wasn't automatically created and didn't trust myself enough to create it properly XD20:11
Doc-Saintlythanks. checking20:11
Doc-Saintlyyea, I can tail it without sudo, so it wouldn't need a password either to get it from that file either20:11
aroonianyone having trouble with getting ubuntu 20.04 to resume?  it seemed to move the mouse around fine and i got the login screen but when i entered the password i just was presented with a purple screen afterward.  lenovo t420 with 12gb of ram and a decent amount of swap storage/ssd.20:14
gildartsJust my two cents, but if someone has enough access to your computer to be reading that file, you are already screwed pretty thoroughly. Just encrypt your root volume and don't leave your machine sitting around random places.20:15
Doc-Saintlygildarts, yea, the main thing I want to protect against is forgetting either device somewhere, and someone grabbing them and being able to see all the files on them.20:30
Doc-Saintlyagain thanks. Another question - does anyone have a recommendation for a shell script crash course geared towards a developer? The first article I pulled up wants to explain to me  what scripting is :)20:33
sarnoldDoc-Saintly: it's not quite a 'course' but this is amazing resource https://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ20:34
zakameprobably something like https://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/abs-guide.html too20:34
Doc-SaintlyThanks :)20:35
dtuxdo i need nfs-common to mount nfs using nautilus?20:38
dex1983hi21:11
dex1983Could someone help me with a script which does the following: rename subfolders like the parent folder like: folder1 --> subfolder1, folder2 --> subfolder2, to folder1 --> folder1 - subfolder1, folder2 --> folder2 - subfolder221:11
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imihello21:58
imihow do I report crashdumps appearing in dmesg?21:58
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rypervenchedex1983: A simple for loop would probably work for that. Assuming you only have one subfolder in each folder.22:08
imihow do I report crashdumps appearing in dmesg?22:25
sarnoldimi: ubuntu-bug linux22:26
squidgyhi, i'm trying to use ubuntu to boot memtest on a uefi system... made it to grub, but there is no memtest listed?.... ubuntu desktop 20.0422:31
sarnoldsquidgy: correct, the memtest authors don't make uefi variant available as free software22:32
sarnoldsquidgy: you can apparently download it from their website for free22:32
sarnoldsquidgy: you could probably also configure your system to boot legacy / csm -- normally a bad idea, but I think the boot menu would then show you the way to run memtest22:33
sarnoldjust be sure to set it back to uefi when you're done22:33
squidgyits an x-serve22:33
squidgyso no legacy built in22:33
squidgyit didn't recognize the memtest iso on disc22:33
sarnoldhttps://www.memtest86.com/download.htm  aha. here's where you can grab the uefi version22:34
squidgysarnold that version doesn't even show as a boot option22:38
sarnoldsquidgy: ugh :/ I'm not currentl in a position to give it a test myself, sorry :(22:38
pavlosdex1983: so you want .../folder1/subfolder1 to become .../folder1/folder1/subfolder1 ?22:39
squidgysarnold wait i downloaded the v4, trying the v8 now22:39
sarnoldsquidgy: aha :) that'll do it22:40
elPumaI am trying to upgrade from 19.04 to 20.04 LTS and in looking up how to do so, I noticed that most information/guides apply to upgrading from 18.04-->20.04, or from 16.04-->20.04, but I couldn't find anything about going from 19.04-->20.04. Would this be because 19.04 is no longer maintained? And, in general, can upgrades only be done from LTS23:03
elPumaversions or versions that are still being maintained?23:03
Bashing-omelPuma: 19.04 is long end 0f life - there is an alternate path to upgrade.23:08
Bashing-om!eol | elPuma23:08
ubottuelPuma: End-Of-Life is when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop. Make sure to update Ubuntu before it goes EOL so you get updates promptly for newly-discovered security vulnerabilities. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOL and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more info. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades23:08
Bashing-om!19.0423:09
ubottuUbuntu 19.04 (Disco Dingo) was the 30th release of Ubuntu, support ended January 2020. see !eol and https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-security-announce/2020-January/005263.html23:09
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elPuma Bashing-om  thanks. It's always nice to find out that some procedure/event/phenomenon has an established term. Know I know that EOL is a thing23:26
elPuma*now I know23:26
oft_gegongso CS:GO crashes when I have my controller plugged in and start CS:GO. But if I leave it unplugged at first and then plug it in when the game boots up, CS:GO acknowledges the controller fine. This is all through Steam.23:26
Bashing-omelPuma: A day in ubuntu I do not learn "something new" is a day wasted :P23:26
squidgysarnold booting it now... ;) thanks. sometimes i just need a kick.23:27
sarnoldsquidgy: me too23:27
sarnoldsquidgy: I've been meaning to replace my router/wifi at home for years now.. and my outgoing director gave me that kick friday afternoon :) "go do it!" .. I didn't actually get the thing done, but it felt good to start :)23:28
squidgysarnold same thing here recently... went with aruba23:29
sarnoldsquidgy: oh nice :) I bought a bunch of ubnt gear, which always looks so promising, but was actually kinda frustrating to work with last week.. heh.23:31
elPumaThe irony is that I was apprehensive to make the switch to 20.04 because I always like to wait a bit and see if any major bugs are discovered that I should be aware of before making committing to a big change. Guess I waited too long and forgot, lol.23:35
sarnoldelPuma: it might be best to stick on the LTS releases in the future, you'll be prompted at reasonable times to upgade to future releases :)23:35
elPumasarnold I figured as much, since now I know that non-LTS versions are like testing grounds for features that are to be added to the LTS versions23:36
nelson777Hello all, has anyone successfully created a vm with vagrant's ubuntu/focal64 image and static IP ? I've followed several instruction in the web and the vm just hangs.23:36
nelson777described the problem in detail here: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1271658/vagrant-static-ip-problems-in-ubuntu-focal6423:37
sarnoldnelson777: I've added a handful of small questions to a comment23:40
nelson777sarnold answered23:52
sarnoldnelson777: hmm, I was sort of hoping it'd reply to ping, I'm not sure where to go next. Are there any logs from vbox?23:55
nelson777I could get help in #vagrant. A user pointed me to another image (bento/ubuntu-20.04) and it worked flawlessly. How come the main image is so broken I can't  even set a static IP :/23:58

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