[00:06] <tatertots> bostongeek36: make another microSD of the same or different version(s) to rule things out
[00:10] <Fenster`> hey guys, is anyone else seeing timeouts when trying to apt-get update to azure.archive.ubuntu.com ?
[00:14] <Maik> Fenster`: maybe it's related to the huge worldwide internet issue that took place  and things aren't quite normal yet?
[00:15] <Maik> Fenster`: https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/30/tech/internet-outage-cloudflare/index.html
[00:19] <bostongeek36> ubuntu 20.04 doesnt run well on 1 gb of ram
[00:19] <bostongeek36> thats what i have
[00:19] <bostongeek36> so thats the issue
[00:19] <bostongeek36> ill check out xubuntu
[00:22] <Maik> bostongeek36: told you already in the other channel that you need at least 2GB of RAM for a smooth LXDE or Xfce desktop environment. So forget about Xubuntu which uses Xfce.
[00:23] <Fenster`> thank Maik
[00:23] <Maik> yw
[00:25] <Maik> tatertots:  he doesn't want to listen that 1GB just isn't sufficient enough for Lubuntu or Xubuntu. So expect him to come back complaining Xubuntu doesn't work smooth either. :)
[00:25] <Maik> i told him that in the raspberrypi channel
[00:32] <holocron> I made some progress on the above problem with mpath and lvm by carefully crafting an LVM filter, so LVM doesn't see duplicates, but attempting to activate the volume group now is failing with "device-mapper: reload ioctl on (253:8) failed: Device or resource busy"
[00:42] <holocron> dmesg shows `[ 2345.591422] device-mapper: table: 253:8: linear: Device lookup failed` - I am not using dmraid/mdadm
[02:32] <hyisz> Hi!
[02:33] <hyisz> Is someone here?
[02:37] <Ascavasaion> hyisz: If you have a question you should just ask and wait.  If someone is able to help they will.  Chaps in here are always very helpful in my experience.
[02:39] <hyisz> Hello?
[02:39] <gry> hi hyisz :)
[02:40] <hyisz> omg finally
[02:40] <hyisz> I feel like a hacker!
[02:41] <gry> i don't know, it seems you missed Ascavasaion's response earlier. hi, welcome to ubuntu live chat. if you have a question, someone would be happy to help out. there is #ubuntu-offtopic for random chat and meeting new people
[02:42] <Ascavasaion> Gry said my name... swoon.
[02:45] <hyisz> Oh I'm sorry... I'm trying to cope with irssi and its keybindings
[02:46] <robertparkerx> can you install unrealircd with ubuntu
[02:46] <hyisz> I do have a question... I'm running ubuntu and installed lxqt and recently i3. I did purge and autoremove lxqt but I still have some apps like lxqt-about and lxqt-config
[02:46] <robertparkerx> I mean with a package manager
[02:46] <hyisz> My question is, how can I remove that?
[02:57] <robertparkerx> Nevermind
[03:28] <robertparkerx> if I create a user and switch to the user will I be in that user home directory ?
[03:32] <Bashing-om> robertparkerx: Wheather a new user directory is created depends on the command you invoked to make that new user account. see: ' man adduser ' .
[03:37] <robertparkerx> Bashing-om ty
[03:38] <robertparkerx> $ sudo adduser test -- this wouldn't ?
[03:40] <Bashing-om> robertparkerx: Uh Huh ^^ that will give "test" a /home :D
[03:41] <robertparkerx> Nice
[03:41] <robertparkerx> if I `su test` will I be in the home directory ?
[03:41] <robertparkerx> for test*
[03:44] <Bashing-om> robertparkerx: no - that permits you to execute a command as another user than "you" .
[03:49] <robertparkerx> Bashing-om so I would have to cd /home/test
[03:50] <Bashing-om> robertparkerx: Generally one reboots - and at the login screen choose the alternate user to login.
[04:04] <robertparkerx> Bashing-om it's ubuntu server
[04:07] <Bashing-om> robertparkerx: then at the login terminal give the new user "name" and the related password to login as that new user.
[04:09] <robertparkerx> Bashing-om I want passwordless user because it will just run a service
[04:09] <robertparkerx> I use that with other but this one is kinda different
[04:09] <robertparkerx> It's unrealird
[04:09] <robertparkerx> with anope services
[04:11] <Bashing-om> robertparkerx: Sorry, no idea there :(
[04:13] <lotuspsychje> robertparkerx: ubuntu server, you can use the #ubuntu-server channel, you know that dont you!
[04:15] <robertparkerx> no
[04:15] <robertparkerx> Sorry
[04:57] <kzimmermann> hello, I hard-rebooted my machine and now my MOC client (mocp) won't start anymore. It has the following error: "FATAL_ERROR: No valid sound driver!" but when I try alsamixer, it seems to run OK. What could possibly trigger this issue?
[05:05] <Dash|RD> Okay, so I have some questions, and hopefully you fine people can help me out.
[05:08] <Dash|RD> Anyway, I'm trying to improve my g/f's laptop by installing the latest version of Ubuntu on it.
[05:08] <Dash|RD> But the stupid thing won't boot from usb
[05:08] <Dash|RD> So I'm going the PXE NIC boot way.
[05:09] <Dash|RD> Which involved a lot of learning, and the downloading of the program serva.
[05:09] <Dash|RD> It's worked really well.
[05:09] <Dash|RD> Except the installer, when you get to the point where you choose the type of install you want.
[05:09] <Dash|RD> It freezes and locks up when I click on continue.
[05:09] <Dash|RD> Everything up to that point works awesomely.
[05:14] <Dash|RD> Okay. I'll try a different distribution.
[05:31] <bradd_> Hi. I just installed an amd video card (old card was nvidia). Now I keep getting 'NVRM: No NVIDIA graphics adapter found!' in dmesg. Not really sure how to disable the old nvidia drivers
[06:44] <chikkoroll> hey yall how do i get a manual page for alist in irc
[06:45] <rud0lf> /msg alis help
[06:45] <Bustin> Hey there, have a weird issue, my laptop sound works, but is very low. I have checked with alsamixer, and all levels are max. I tested headphones, even volume on a bluetooth headset, is low, when levels are all cranked, and even "amplified over 100%"
[06:45] <chikkoroll> thanks
[06:46] <rud0lf> mp
[06:46] <rud0lf> oh sorry, my pleasure*
[06:46] <chikkoroll> oops
[06:48] <Bustin> also, anyone know of an extension for gnome, which adds support to collapse the system tray ?
[06:48] <Bustin> so many icons.
[06:50] <rud0lf> AllTray maybe?
[06:51] <Bustin> rud0lf, never heard of it, where can I find this? quick google search is inconsistent
[06:52] <Bustin> oh, gnome-look
[06:52] <Bustin> my bad.
[06:52] <rud0lf> apt install alltray should work
[07:07] <Bustin> rud0lf, alltray did not work, thanks for the suggestion.
[08:20] <ld50> is there a switch to stop casper from checksumming all files on the install iso? i'm debugging my autoinstaller and checksumming everything every time really takes time
[08:21] <lotuspsychje> ld50: ctrl + c should do the trick
[08:21] <ld50> lotuspsychje: doesn't seem to work when autoinstall is engaged
[08:21] <ld50> i tried
[08:21] <lotuspsychje> ld50: is that on server iso or so?
[08:21] <ld50> lotuspsychje: yep, server iso
[08:22] <lotuspsychje> ah right, i think i recall other users mentioning that too
[08:22] <ld50> would fsck.mode=skip help? the md5sums are not fsck, strictly speaking...
[08:22] <lotuspsychje> ld50: try in #ubuntu-server please, dont recall whats the solution for that
[08:22] <ld50> lotuspsychje: will do, thx
[08:22] <lotuspsychje> welcome
[09:41] <Paddy_NI> I switched from gdm to sddm for my login greeter as the login prompt appears on a display that is not my primary display.  One of the problems I have encountered (running Ubuntu 20.04) is that I now no longer have the ability to lock the screen.  Would anyone have any solutions for this?
[09:57] <guiverc> Paddy_NI, you could try xscreensaver; lubuntu uses it to handle locking
[09:57] <Paddy_NI> guiverc, Oh that rings a bell!  Thank you I will give that a go.
[09:58] <guiverc> you cam have xscreensaver just turn off screen, ie. nothing visible
[10:10] <Paddy_NI> guiverc, I've just done that and it works really well.  It would be a bonus if it locked the screen too
[10:11] <Paddy_NI> I guess I am trying to patch together functionality that I was previously getting with GDM lol
[10:11] <Paddy_NI> It's a shame that GDM did not let you dictate which display(s) it appeared on.
[10:12] <guiverc> In my screensaver preferences I can set "lock screen after"; did you look in preferences for settings?
[10:13] <Paddy_NI> I did guiverc however it only blanks the screen. If I come back to it whilst it is blanked out and activate the mouse/keyboard etc it just goes straight back to the desktop without hesitation.
[10:14] <Paddy_NI> My only option at the moment if I want security would be to turn the pc off
[10:14] <guiverc> you don't have autologin enabled do you?
[10:14] <Paddy_NI> Never
[10:15] <Paddy_NI> If I choose to logout it just sits there displaying the sddm greeter indefinitely. I cannot imagine this being good for energy consumption or the health of a display :-/
[10:15] <guiverc> you may need to set `-lock` on initial run.. ie. autostart option that starts it, maybe this will help
[10:15] <guiverc> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/XScreenSaver
[10:16] <guiverc> hold on, looking to see if my system has easy to see options..
[10:16] <Paddy_NI> I keep forgetting the arch wiki like some kind of idiot. Thank you :-)
[10:16] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[10:16] <Paddy_NI> Hey BluesKaj
[10:16] <BluesKaj> hey Paddy_NI
[10:18] <guiverc> Paddy_NI, sorry I can't use mine as example; my system was lubuntu with LXDE upgraded to now groovy, and still has LXDE crud remaining I just discovered; it's still using light-locker (another option maybe)
[10:19] <guiverc> I'd have to boot a cleaner lubuntu system to explore options, can't currently sorry Paddy_NI
[10:19] <Paddy_NI> guiverc, I have an idea that would make me happy, I just confirmed that "xscreensaver-command -lock" locks the screen and displays a password prompt (not very pretty but kinda retro) so if I was to set "super key + L" as "xscreensaver-command -lock" that would be awesome
[10:19] <Paddy_NI> guiverc, Honestly don't worry too much about it, I am just grateful for any solution
[10:19] <Paddy_NI> Thank you
[10:20] <guiverc> yeah I agree I too am no fan of how xscreensaver lock works; I'd forgotten as I guess I'm usually seeing light-locker
[10:20] <Acru> Hey, my mother is having problems with her notebook (thinkpad e485) where the network printer, an officejet pro 6800, keeps getting deactivated and has to be reactivated manually, does somebody know why this might be?
[10:21] <Paddy_NI> It won't accept "super +L" however it did accept "ctrl + alt + L"
[10:21] <lotuspsychje> Acru: wich ubuntu release was this?
[10:21] <guiverc> s/xscreensaver works/xscreensaver lock looks/ ^ sorry
[10:22] <Paddy_NI> I think I can mark this a solved for now, I just need to punch that key combo when I get up from the desk.
[10:23] <Acru> lotuspsychje: 18.04
[10:23] <Acru> and its a e585, sorry
[10:23] <Paddy_NI> It would be nice if I could customise the lock screen password prompt for xscreensaver although I really should learn when to stop and just get on with it
[10:26] <guiverc> Paddy_NI, as stated; my/this box uses light-locker; so that could be an alterantive (it'll look different)
[10:26] <Paddy_NI> I am reading up on that as we speak :-)
[10:28] <guiverc> maybe I was wrong, I just locked my screen, on login I got xscreensaver login for passwd... maybe light-locker won't help; that maybe wild goose chase
[10:28] <Paddy_NI> Does light-locker require LightDM and if so does LightDM display the login greeter on each monitor or does it let you choose which display it appears on
[10:28] <Paddy_NI> Ah
[10:28] <Paddy_NI> Cool
[10:29] <Paddy_NI> lightdm lets you specify which display it appears on according to the arch wiki
[10:31] <guiverc> Paddy_NI, I don't know, as stated; this is my primary box which was older lubuntu (lxde) upgraded to each 6 months now groovy; lxde to lxqt isn't supported b/c crud & issues can remain... so my having light-locker is likely crud; and I do have lightdm installs (I use sddm; i didn't know I had lightdm either)
[10:31] <guiverc> (sorry for wording, I'm tired)
[10:32] <Paddy_NI> Yeah no worries at all this does look to be a bit of a Rabbit hole, I shall persevere with "xscreensaver-command -lock" being mapped to "ctrl + alt + l" until these issues are addressed.
[10:32] <Paddy_NI> Thank you
[10:34] <k_sze> `do-release-upgrade -c` from bionic still shows no upgrade available. :/
[10:34] <k_sze> Anybody knows how it's coming along?
[10:35] <k_sze> The upgrade tools from bionic to focal, I mean.
[10:41] <lotuspsychje> k_sze: https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/focal-fossa-20-04-1-lts-point-release-status-tracking/17604
[10:42] <k_sze> nice. thanks!
[10:44] <h4ll0w33n> hi to all
[10:51] <lotuspsychje> Acru: did you install hplip?
[10:58] <lalitmee> Hello Guys, I updated from Ubuntu 18.04 to 20.04 with -d tag. someone was telling me that I would need a live usb with Ubuntu 20.04 to fix the problem which I was facing. I have the live usb now but I don't know what to do to fix the things which are messed up in my ubuntu 20.04 like I can see my settings in the applications
[11:37] <Acru> lotuspsychje yes
[11:55] <hylian> I'm trying to find and save all the packages and dependencies for those packages into a folder that I have installed so I can use that to install a wifi driver without internet. someone pointed me in the direction of apt-clone, but that's useless to me because I don't want a list of installed apps, I want the apps themselves, the .deb files... anyone have an idea how to accomplish this? (not var/cache,
[11:55] <hylian> that doesn't have any of the stuff I need to accomplish my task)
[12:01] <hylian> I found a dirty solution to my problem, i'm going to use timeshift. thanks for being here... :)
[12:23] <lorenx> hello, i just logged in into my ubuntu 20.04 installation today and i see my login screen and my top bar font bigger, anyone experiencing the same?
[12:24] <lorenx> i found this but it didn't fix: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1271394/gnome-logs-in-with-display-scaling-problem
[12:37] <lotuspsychje> lorenx: its a known mutter bug they working on
[12:37] <lorenx> just happened today?
[12:37] <lotuspsychje> lorenx: bug #1892521
[12:37] <lotuspsychje> no
[12:38] <lorenx> do you know why i am seeing it today? an updated package maybe?
[12:39] <lotuspsychje> lorenx: did you wait long to update?
[12:39] <lorenx> i didn't think so but maybe i did
[12:40] <lotuspsychje> lorenx: you can check that in your dpkg logs, if it recently updated mutter
[12:40] <lorenx> anyway, temporarily setting the text-scaling-factor to 1.01 and back to 1.00 fixed
[12:40] <lorenx> yeah, updated on 2020-08-30
[12:41] <lorenx> yesterday, but i rebooted today, that's why i guess
[12:41] <lotuspsychje> and you have an nvidia card?
[12:41] <lorenx> yeah, i do
[12:41] <lotuspsychje> yeah so prob thats gonna be it, please affect yourself if you like to the bug
[12:42] <lorenx> thank you for your help
[12:42] <lotuspsychje> welcome lorenx
[12:44] <lotuspsychje> Acru: i had some issues with a newer model of HP on 18.04, i had to download a latest hplip to get things working, maybe related to yours?
[12:50] <lotuspsychje> Acru: this was my bug about it bug #1812392
[13:00] <furycd001> HI Guys. I have a Lenovo ideapad 330 with Xubuntu 18.04.05 running kernel 5.3.0-51-generic. It keeps randomly locking up & I have to hard reboot using the power button. Anyone here able to read this syslog & help me fix my problem ??
[13:00] <furycd001> Heres the syslog >> http://termbin.com/8jpo
[13:04] <mason> furycd001: That looks a bit like https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=104192
[13:05] <mason> not seeing that specific status
[13:06] <furycd001> @mason: thanks for the link. Looking at it now. Is there anyway I can prevent / stop these lockups from happening ??
[13:06] <mason> furycd001: I'd want to try another kernel, myself. Can you go back to the 18.04 default kernel, which is 4.15, and see if it does it there? A comparison would be great for bug reports.
[13:07] <mason> I'm guessing that 5.3 is HWE?
[13:07] <lotuspsychje> furycd001: that doesnt look like the right kernel for 18.04
[13:07] <mason> lotuspsychje: Is it HWE maybe?
[13:07] <furycd001> Booting up the laptop now to double check the kernel....
[13:07] <lotuspsychje> !info linux-image-generic-HWE-18.04
[13:08] <mason> Hrm, not HWE then.
[13:08] <mason> furycd001: Either go back to the stock kernel or forward to the current HWE and see if the issue persists.
[13:09] <furycd001> How do I move the kernel forward to the most current one available ??
[13:10] <lotuspsychje> furycd001: think you need to find the rootcause of why you still got 5.3
[13:10] <mason> furycd001: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[13:11] <lotuspsychje> furycd001: you still got old repos in your sources?
[13:12] <furycd001> The laptop actually belongs to my wife & she'd been having these lockups for a while but never thought to say anything. Ima gona check the reops now to see....
[13:16] <brisc> does ubuntu use insmod?
[13:16] <brisc> ubuntu 16.04.7
[13:19] <furycd001> Ok so I just looked at that link & ran the code. It says that everything is already installed & at the newest version.....
[13:19] <furycd001> Here's the output of the reops >> http://termbin.com/0ykx
[13:22] <lotuspsychje> furycd001: pastebin: dpkg --list | grep linux-image please
[13:26] <furycd001> @lotuspaycje: Here you go >> http://termbin.com/bvs6
[13:33] <lotuspsychje> furycd001: seems like you do have 5.4 thats the kernel version you should be booting right now
[13:33] <furycd001> How can I tell which one the laptop is booting from ?
[13:35] <BluesKaj> uname -r
[13:36] <furycd001> @BluesKaj: Thanks :)
[13:36] <BluesKaj> yw
[13:36] <furycd001> The laptop is booted & uname -r outouts 5.3.0-53-generic
[13:37] <brisc> what's the proper way to load modules in Ubuntu 16.04.7 ?
[13:41] <lotuspsychje> brisc: modprobe modulename
[13:42] <BluesKaj> brisc, i just use sudo modprobe nameofmodule, but that's usually for a driver, not sure if that's "proper" or not
[13:42] <lotuspsychje> brisc: ubuntu should be loading modules on boot, if not you should investigate why the module doesnt load first
[13:52] <brisc> Module loads but i need to reload it
[13:52] <brisc> cifs not playing nice with one of our vendors
[14:05] <furycd001> Ohh I've also just noticed that whenever I turned the laptop off there, everything turned off but the power & numlock lights both stayed on & I again had to hold down the power button to turn them off....
[14:36] <neure> hi
[14:37] <neure> I am trying to install ubuntu on dell xps 7390 laptop
[14:37] <neure> right after the boot menu I get error: file '/casper/vmlinuz' not found.
[14:37] <neure> error: you need to load the kernel first.
[14:38] <neure> I think the the installer/grub might be trying to access the wrong drive
[14:39] <neure> grub> ls prints me (memdisk) (hd0) (hd0,apple2) (hd0,apple1) (hd0,msdos2) (hd1) (hd1,gpt6) (hd1,gpt5) (hd1,gpt4) (hd1,gpt3) (hd1,gp2) (hd1,gpt1)
[14:40] <neure> I wonder if the usb drive is not seen by grub for some reason?
[14:40] <daftjack> Ubuntu 18, KDE plasma. "Activity in session "Default"" keeps popping up every 5-30 seconds. I did nothing. Its been fine and suddenly started doing this an hour ago. 30 minutes spent trying to find out wtf or at least SITFU. Anyonw know how to disable this wihtout turning off all notifications?
[14:41] <daftjack> It interrupts typing, mouse movement etc. Making it nigh impossible to work. LOL
[14:41] <ledeni> neure: which iso you put on your usb and did you checksum iso
[14:42] <neure> 20.04.1 and I created it with Etcher, I believe it does checksum
[14:43] <iguest> daftjack@ You must have inadvertently pressed Shift + ctrl + I. Press it again to switch it off.
[14:43] <daftjack> Think I found it. For some reason the system just decided on its own to enable notifications about activity in a hidden session so if you tail a damn log in a tab it constantly pops this up. Fine except *I* didnt turn this on.
[14:43] <daftjack> No I pressed that on purpose for use inside an application. wow. Time to remap that.
[14:44] <daftjack> But Ive been using said app for months.
[14:44] <iguest> Mmm - Don't know what to say.
[14:46] <neure> I'll try to recreate the boot media..
[14:47] <daftjack> Looking through standard, global and custom shortcuts I dont see that configured. The only reference to "notifications" has nothing set.
[14:54] <daftjack> Ah so its an embedded shortcut inside kconsole it seems. Must have had mouse over the window. No way to apparently disable the shortcut as none are shown. Nor are they in notifications. Annoying. Have to remembe that. Thanks iquest.
[14:56] <daftjack> Oddly enmough I can enable it with the shortcut but not disable. Have to do so manually in the notifications dialog.
[15:13] <Doc-Saintly> On my Lenovo laptop where the function keys are always switched in media mode instead of F# key mode, I noticed that when I remote into the machine and press F1 on a regular keyboard (so it's really F1) it comes through on the machine as a media key still.
[15:14] <Doc-Saintly> I assume this means That somewhere in the software side it is converting the F# keys to the media functions. How would I figure out where?
[15:14] <hansh> is anyone here running Desktop Ubuntu 18.04 or 20.04? can you run > update-alternatives --get-selections | pastebinit
[15:15] <oerheks> hansh, why? i am not giving away my config.
[15:16] <hansh> oerheks, i want to know if any of those are pointing to "nautilus", and if so, what's their config name?
[15:16] <hansh> what about: update-alternatives --get-selections | grep -i nautilus | wc -l
[15:17] <oerheks> no. you try; update-alternatives --config file-manager
[15:18] <hansh> update-alternatives: error: no alternatives for file-manager
[15:18] <hansh> guess that's what i get for running Xubuntu
[15:19] <hansh> (you sure it's not `x-file-manager` or something like that though?)
[15:21] <bubls> Hello! I have ran into a problem with Ubuntu 18.04. After every ~1.5 seconds there is a video lag for ~0.1-0.2 seconds (if I make circles with my mouse or watch any videos, I can see screen freeze / lag). My GPU is GTX1660, so I downgraded from 440 driver to 390 driver, I tried to sync with monitor from Nvidia settings, my kernel is 5.4.0-42-generic - any ideas on what else I could try?
[15:22] <bubls> dmesg -T and journalctl -b seem clean to me.
[15:24] <lotus|NUC> bubls: there is a recent known mutter bug in combo with nvidia, but not sure that would be related to video lags
[15:25] <bubls> Oh, okay. I was on 20.04 before and didn't see such lag there.
[15:26] <bubls> BTW, if it helps anyhow - sound is not lagging, so it's not a full system problem, more like just video. I also disabled gnome-system-monitor. . . Thinking about it, maybe I should try to switch to Unity etc?
[15:27] <oerheks>  hansh i think this command needs sudo
[15:27] <hansh> root@dev2020:/home/hans# sudo update-alternatives --config file-manager
[15:27] <hansh> update-alternatives: error: no alternatives for file-manager
[15:28] <oerheks> so, you have only nautilus?
[15:28] <hansh> no, i have Thunar, Xubuntu use "Thunar" instead of "Nautilus"
[15:28] <lotus|NUC> bubls: has your nvidia driver loaded correctly? sudo lshw -C video ?
[15:29] <ioria> hansh, are you sure  you can use 'update-alternatives'  with file managers  ?
[15:29] <bubls> lotus|NUC, VGA comatible controller, NVIDIA corporation, driver=nvidia latency=0
[15:30] <hansh> ioria, no i'm not sure. i thought a good way to check was to check for references to "nautilus" from "update-alternatives --get-selections"  - but so far nobody's been willing to try it, and i don't have access to a desktop ubuntu system myself, but at least on Xubuntu there's no references there to Thunar
[15:31] <bubls> Hmm, but it seems I'm running on 435 instead, not 390
[15:31] <hansh> how can i check programmatically what the local file manager is called? (eg nautilus on Ubuntu or thunar on Xubuntu)
[15:31] <ioria> hansh, i'd try to use xdg-mime and gsettings
[15:32] <lotus|NUC> bubls: sounds good
[15:32] <bubls> hansh, are you maybe looking for 'xdg-open .' ?
[15:32] <hansh> bubls, yeah seems so, thanks
[15:33] <hansh> xdg-open does exactly what i want lol
[15:33] <hansh> does xdg-open run nautilus on Ubuntu? (it runs Thunar on Xubuntu)
[15:33] <bubls> xdg-open file OR xdg-open . on any linux should open file manager.
[15:33] <hansh> thanks
[15:34] <bubls> Wish my problems were so easy to solve as well : )
[15:34] <lotus|NUC> bubls: nothing to trace on journalctl -f in realtime?
[15:35] <bubls> lotus|NUC, Will take a look
[15:37] <lotus|NUC> bubls: you got ubuntu-restricted-extras installed? video lag on vlc or YT? or both?
[15:37] <bubls> lotus|NUC, it just keeps logging internal TDMS ... hmm | /usr/lib/gdm3/gdm-x-session[1543]: (--) NVIDIA(GPU-0): AAA (DFP-4): Internal TMDS | and | /usr/lib/gdm3/gdm-x-session[1543]: (--) NVIDIA(GPU-0): AAA (DFP-4): 600.0 MHz maximum pixel clock
[15:37] <lotus|NUC> bubls: keeps logging as in flooding your journal?
[15:38] <bubls> lotus|NUC, restricted extras now installed, lag even on desktop (when I move my mouse). And yes, flooding journal.
[15:39] <lotus|NUC> bubls: check if its bug #1876565
[15:39] <bubls> lotus|NUC, so I should try logging off?
[15:41] <lotus|NUC> bubls: not sure, never seen this bug before
[15:42] <lotus|NUC> bubls: can you htop to see if xorg 100% cpu aswell?
[15:45] <bubls> lotus|NUC, neh, CPU is chilling.
[15:46] <lotus|NUC> bubls: did you try a user switching like on the bug?
[15:47] <bubls> lotus|NUC, not yet, I tried unplugging my second monitor - no help.
[15:50] <coconut> Since when konversation does not install the whole kdebase thing anymore?
[16:05] <leibniz[m]> How to know which app has come from which PPA?
[16:11] <lotus|NUC> leibniz[m]: apt policy packagename
[16:12] <oerheks> leibniz[m], nautilus can filter that, or apt-cache policy <package>
[16:13] <leibniz[m]> lotus|NUC thanks
[16:13] <bubls> lotus|NUC, I fixed it ... real facepalm moment here
[16:14] <lotus|NUC> bubls: what was it?
[16:14] <bubls> lotus|NUC, HDMI for one of my screens wasn't plugged in solid enough.
[16:14] <lotus|NUC> ah that explains the flood
[16:14] <lotus|NUC> good to know
[16:14] <bubls> I spent 2 days on this tho...
[16:18] <Kow> WHen will ubuntu fix the bug that was fixed in Fedora months ago? This impacts 100% of LXDE users because lxde requires pcmanfm https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1797193
[16:19] <Kow> The ubuntu bug has been open since May... no action by any ubuntu dev: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pcmanfm/+bug/1878625
[16:19] <Kow> that should have been a critical 20.04.1 milestone bug
[16:22] <bubls> Kow, don't use lxde? (I'm not part of Ubuntu support, just random user)
[16:24] <prappl93> Kow, should that be posted to the Lubuntu dev channel instead?
[16:25] <Kow> prappl93: thanks i will post it there. I am actually going to add the damn patch to the bug report. If Lubuntu team still doesn't want to fix it then it's just pure laziness.. I tied your shoe now all you need to do is stand up
[16:25] <en1gma> i have a dell laptop with hybrid graphics. intel 4th gen hd and nvidia m2200. im on ubuntu 20.04 amd64 live "Try Ubuntu". im booted up right now. 'glxgears' makes no difference when i change which card im using with 'prime-select nvidia/intel'
[16:26] <en1gma> i have tried to use "Additional Drivers" to manually pcik the nvidia 4.50 driver and it says it does
[16:27] <en1gma> i logout and log back in but it dont seem to work
[16:27] <en1gma> do i need to fully restart???
[16:28] <en1gma> i dont want to do that since im running live
[16:29] <en1gma> am i in the right channel? no one is talking?
[16:29] <bubls> en1gma, yes, you are in the right channel, what version of ubuntu?
[16:30] <en1gma> ubuntu 20.04 lts daily
[16:30] <en1gma> booting with "try ubuntu" option
[16:30] <bubls> en1gma, lshw -c video shows nvidia?
[16:32] <en1gma> 1 sec
[16:32] <en1gma> https://pastebin.com/EH5M9Tpb
[16:33] <bubls> en1gma, without "shows nvidia" just lshw -c video"
[16:33] <bubls> en1gma, without "shows nvidia" just lshw -c video
[16:34] <en1gma> https://pastebin.com/RRGKCCBD
[16:34] <en1gma> sorry both that
[16:36] <en1gma> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ prime-select querynvidia
[16:36] <en1gma> = nvidia
[16:37] <bubls> en1gma, hmm - seems like you have both drivers properly installed.
[16:37] <en1gma> i switch drivers in the "Additional Drivers" section and it says i am switched but the "Nvidia-Settings" opens up with no info in it
[16:38] <en1gma> do i need to restart when i switch from noeveu to nvidia binary driver? all i did was logout and login
[16:38] <bubls> en1gma, if I run glxgears I get '375 frames in 5.0 seconds = 187.974 FPS'
[16:39] <en1gma> what is your gpu?
[16:39] <bubls> en1gma, safest way would be to restart if you are running the live image from USB and it has some room to save the changes.
[16:39] <bubls> en1gma, GTX 1660
[16:39] <en1gma> i think my glxgears is capped at 60fps
[16:40] <en1gma> 301 frames in 5.0 seconds = 60.042 FPS
[16:41] <bubls> en1gma, wait what. 375/5 = 75 - where did it get that 187? : O
[16:41] <bubls> (from my paste)
[16:41] <en1gma> :)
[16:43] <bubls> Well. en1gma software-properties-gtk - from there select nvidia drivers, then ' sudo ubuntu-drivers devices' and check that nvidia is selected, also please paste your nvidia driver version.
[16:45] <en1gma> https://pastebin.com/62ZK3Z2F
[16:45] <bubls> en1gma, did you select 450 driver from gtk?
[16:46] <en1gma> where it shows in "Additional Drivers" yep. the 450 meta (recommended)
[16:46] <en1gma> why is it not showing it correct in 'sudo ubuntu-drivers devices'?
[16:48] <bubls> But it is ...
[16:49] <en1gma> oh ok so when i use 'prime-select intel' or 'prime-select nvidia' glxgears is not changing the frames per second
[16:49] <en1gma> i dont think its switching
[16:49] <en1gma> my laptop has an hdmi out cable going to samsung monitor
[16:49] <en1gma> the built-in display uses intel?
[16:51] <en1gma> i wonder if i should restart with the external display disconnected
[16:51] <bubls> Aha
[16:51] <en1gma> let me reboot and come back. :)
[16:51] <en1gma> thanks
[16:52] <bubls> Well if you use nvidia as default for X screen, then it should work. I advise a restart.
[16:52] <bubls> heh. better late than never? :)
[17:12] <bubls> Well... I guess en1gma is not booting any more? : D
[17:27] <captain_proton> I have a weird problem after a reboot my user does not show up in GDM i am able to log in using other user. I search the web but nothing seem to fix it
[17:27] <ioria> captain_proton, /var/lib/AccountsService/users
[17:30] <captain_proton> ioria, thanks some how I got set as a system account
[17:31] <ioria> captain_proton, ok
[17:37] <prappl93> Well, bubls, looks like you didn't end up bricking en1gma's set up completely
[17:37] <en1gma> bubls i had to get the ubuntu 20.04.1 lts daily build. i also disconnected my external hdmi.
[17:37] <en1gma> can we continue?
[17:38] <en1gma> 'prime-select query' = nvidia
[17:39] <en1gma> 'glxgears' = 301 frame in 5 seconds = 60fps
[17:39] <bubls> Still no change in gears?
[17:39] <bubls> prappl93, bricking live image? : ) That would be something.
[17:39] <en1gma> just not sure how to complete the change from noeveu to nvidia binary without restarting
[17:40] <en1gma> do i need to logout and login? the 'nvidia-settings' is not populated with any info
[17:40] <Captain_Proton> ioria, spoke to soon change my account to false reboot and switch but to System. I was looking for a usermod command but did not see one. Can you point me in the right way?
[17:40] <en1gma> i mean i tried logging out and in and that didnt do anything
[17:42] <tatertots> en1gma: restart x or reboot
[17:42] <en1gma> how can i do that from a live enviroment
[17:42] <en1gma> "Try Ubuntu"
[17:43] <tatertots> en1gma: a live environment is read only you won't use nvidia driver on livecd/liveusb
[17:43] <en1gma> dang. i was hoping i could by logging out and in
[17:44] <en1gma> is there any pre-made images that have the nvidia binary enabled by default for live enviroment
[17:44] <en1gma> or is there a boot time command i can give?
[17:44] <Mr_Singh_> Hi, I am using ubuntu 18.04.4 LTS , Can I upgrade it to 20.04 because some latest c++ libs and compiler is missing in 18.04.4
[17:45] <tatertots> en1gma: no ..someone that didn't even have nvidia would be trying to use it
[17:46] <en1gma> is there a way i can install ubuntu to usb flash and it work correctly? i dont think a persistant will work with loading the nvidia binary
[17:48] <Mr_Singh_> anyone please
[17:49] <gildarts> Mr_Singh_: https://ubuntu.com/blog/how-to-upgrade-from-ubuntu-18-04-lts-to-20-04-lts-today
[17:50] <Mr_Singh_> gildarts : Is it safe
[17:51] <Mr_Singh_> I mean all my IDE will remains in the system or it will be deleted after up gradation
[17:52] <bubls> en1gma, what do you want to achieve? Maybe try VM?
[17:53] <gildarts> Mr_Singh_: Usually. The linked article talks about how to make backups, possible considerations. Your IDE should be fine, assuming it is updated to work on the current version etc. Can't promise it is 100% safe, but is usually fine.
[17:54] <en1gma> bulbs im trying to get opencl to work on the nvidia
[17:54] <en1gma> for fft display
[17:56] <bubls> en1gma, okay, 1) if you type 'bub' in irc and press tab it auto-completes my name 2) do you have sudo apt install ocl-icd-libopencl1 installed?
[17:58] <en1gma> bubls checking
[17:59] <en1gma> i see it but it is not installed
[18:00] <en1gma> is that for the intel chip?
[18:01] <Conradish006> Dost anybody know how to install Ubuntu without the grub bootloader?
[18:02] <Conradish006> I've tried several different ways listed on the internet, but it never seems to work
[18:03] <Conradish006> It seems to automagicaly install it no matter what I do
[18:03] <jpds> Conradish006: I think GRUB is the only supported way of loading Ubuntu
[18:04] <jpds> s
[18:04] <jpds> not there
[18:04] <Conradish006> But, I don't want to bootloader, because I run OpenCore, and then the NVMe drive that I have throws errors whenever I start up.
[18:05] <Conradish006> Which means that I have to go into the boot selecter just to boot into my main drive
[18:06] <amuro> How to install swfrender?
[18:08] <Conradish006> Would this method work? https://smarttechnicalworld.com/remove-grub-bootloader-from-windows/
[18:09] <ikonia> why not just run a standard boot process
[18:09] <ikonia> amuro: what does the documentation say
[18:10] <oerheks> Conradish006, normally we advise to boot the windows iso, and run repair.
[18:11] <oerheks> then remove ubuntu, if that is your goal
[18:11] <bubls> Oh damn, en1gma just quit again : /
[18:12] <oerheks> bubls, please keep the language in this channel family friendly, thanks
[18:13] <bubls> oerheks, sorry, didn't realize da... isn't family friendly, not my native tongue. : (
[18:16] <amuro> ikonia: what do you mean?
[18:16] <ikonia> amuro: exactly that, you're asking how to install something, that does the documentation say
[18:17] <oerheks> hint: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/eoan/en/man1/swfrender.1.html
[18:35] <Doc-Saintly> Is there a way to make it so a directory only exists if something is mounted to it? I'm having an issue with a sync application that assumes all files has been deleted because the directory is empty if it's not mounted.
[18:36] <gildarts> If the folder isn't there when it is unmounted, wouldn't the sync application assume the entire folder was deleted?
[18:37] <Doc-Saintly> gildarts, well, it's the "root" of the share, so it's smart enough to realize then that the thing it's supposed to sync doesn't exist.
[18:37] <Doc-Saintly> but if it exists but is empty, then it assumes all the files have been deleted
[18:38] <gildarts> What sync utility is it and how it is it being run? Thinking it might make sense to wrap it in a shell script to check if it is mounted before running the sync. Don't know of a way to make the folder only exist when something is mounted.
[18:39] <Doc-Saintly> gildarts, it's the Nextcloud sync client.
[18:39] <Doc-Saintly> And yea, I thought about that - but I am still nervous about accidentally launching the sync application when things aren't "all set up"
[18:39] <oerheks> simpel; don't autostart nextcloud?
[18:39] <Doc-Saintly> of course, but I'm talking about the whole human "forgetting" thing :)
[18:40] <Doc-Saintly> because even if I set up the start-up script, what about a restart? the mount point would still exist
[18:40] <Doc-Saintly> I can't guarantee that the mount point would be removed unless there's some built in thing I can't think of
[18:40] <gildarts> Make the nextcloud sync client depend on a systemd unit mounting the share?
[18:43] <ikonia> why not just put the drive in fstab
[18:43] <ikonia> or use autom ount
[18:43] <ikonia> so it's always mounted
[18:43] <ikonia> or start the sync manually if/when the drive in mounted
[18:44] <Doc-Saintly> ikonia, because it's an encrypted volume that needs a password
[18:44] <oerheks> just don't autostart that cloud thingy.. seems like a non-issue to me
[18:44] <ikonia> then why are you syncing data this way
[18:44] <ikonia> you''re using a model that depends on a file system to keep in sync, but using a system where the file system will not be there
[18:45] <gildarts> encrypted volume... nextcloud sync... that seems pointless.
[18:45] <ikonia> indeed
[18:45] <Doc-Saintly> yes... why would I want to have a local copy of all my data
[18:45] <Doc-Saintly> in case you know... I don't have internet..
[18:45] <Doc-Saintly> .and why would I want to encrypt all my of my data sitting on a portable drive. how silly.
[18:46] <gildarts> Keeping something that is auto syncing on an external drive seems not great either.
[18:46] <Doc-Saintly> gildarts, well on Windows, it doesn't sync because it can see the drive isn't mounted
[18:46] <Doc-Saintly> but on Linux, the nature of mounting the drive leaves the directory there but empty.
[18:47] <Doc-Saintly> honestly it doesn't sync all the time, but just when I plug it in to grab a big file quickly, or when I plug it in to prep for a trip somewher with limited internet
[18:48] <Doc-Saintly> personally I think the Nextcloud client should give some sort of warning before dumping all the files if it sees an empty directory - it should be able to see that it's mounted. But I'm chasing that up with them separately :)
[18:49] <xtao> syncthing uses a folder marker to prevent that. if an empty .stfolder directory doesn't exist then it will refuse to do anything with it
[18:50] <Doc-Saintly> xtao, and Backblaze also uses a .bzvol directory for storing some drive data (like the cache for the drive)
[18:51] <Doc-Saintly> I just felt like this can't be the only case where the mount point being present without the target being available is problematic - so I was hoping there might be a more automatic fix. :)
[18:51] <Doc-Saintly> Thanks for the feedback all :)
[18:51] <ikonia> there are lots of automatic fixes
[18:52] <Doc-Saintly> ikonia, ooh, do tell :D
[18:53] <ikonia> putting dependencies on the automounter for the startup of the sync client, putting an inotify flag into the file system that triggers the sync,
[18:53] <ikonia> setting up a better way to unlock the drive so that it doesn't require human interaction
[18:54] <Doc-Saintly> ikonia, yes I've considered getting Veracrypt to auto mount from the LUKS encryption on the main drive
[19:12] <Doc-Saintly> is it just me, or is `crypttab` not really much different than putting my password in a script file that mounts things? Both are storing the password in plaintext and presume that it can't be accessed (because it's encrypted)
[19:15] <oerheks> password in a script file, will be accessable.
[19:58] <Doc-Saintly> oerheks, wont the crypttab file as well?
[20:02] <gildarts> If you have your system encrypted, it prevents offline access. Still have the problem of someone taking the machine while you are logged in, but it helps minimize it.
[20:03] <gildarts> And if someone can take the machine from you while logged in, you have the wrench problem.
[20:03] <gildarts> (wrench problem https://xkcd.com/538/ )
[20:07] <Doc-Saintly> yep of course. but couldn't they view /crypttab the same way they could view the script? Or it defaults to needing sudo access?
[20:09] <gildarts> You can check the read permissions using ls -la /crypttab
[20:09] <gildarts> Don't know enough about crypttab to tell you.
[20:11] <Doc-Saintly> ah, I assume it wasn't automatically created and didn't trust myself enough to create it properly XD
[20:11] <Doc-Saintly> thanks. checking
[20:11] <Doc-Saintly> yea, I can tail it without sudo, so it wouldn't need a password either to get it from that file either
[20:14] <arooni> anyone having trouble with getting ubuntu 20.04 to resume?  it seemed to move the mouse around fine and i got the login screen but when i entered the password i just was presented with a purple screen afterward.  lenovo t420 with 12gb of ram and a decent amount of swap storage/ssd.
[20:15] <gildarts> Just my two cents, but if someone has enough access to your computer to be reading that file, you are already screwed pretty thoroughly. Just encrypt your root volume and don't leave your machine sitting around random places.
[20:30] <Doc-Saintly> gildarts, yea, the main thing I want to protect against is forgetting either device somewhere, and someone grabbing them and being able to see all the files on them.
[20:33] <Doc-Saintly> again thanks. Another question - does anyone have a recommendation for a shell script crash course geared towards a developer? The first article I pulled up wants to explain to me  what scripting is :)
[20:34] <sarnold> Doc-Saintly: it's not quite a 'course' but this is amazing resource https://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ
[20:34] <zakame> probably something like https://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/abs-guide.html too
[20:35] <Doc-Saintly> Thanks :)
[20:38] <dtux> do i need nfs-common to mount nfs using nautilus?
[21:11] <dex1983> hi
[21:11] <dex1983> Could someone help me with a script which does the following: rename subfolders like the parent folder like: folder1 --> subfolder1, folder2 --> subfolder2, to folder1 --> folder1 - subfolder1, folder2 --> folder2 - subfolder2
[21:58] <imi> hello
[21:58] <imi> how do I report crashdumps appearing in dmesg?
[22:08] <rypervenche> dex1983: A simple for loop would probably work for that. Assuming you only have one subfolder in each folder.
[22:25] <imi> how do I report crashdumps appearing in dmesg?
[22:26] <sarnold> imi: ubuntu-bug linux
[22:31] <squidgy> hi, i'm trying to use ubuntu to boot memtest on a uefi system... made it to grub, but there is no memtest listed?.... ubuntu desktop 20.04
[22:32] <sarnold> squidgy: correct, the memtest authors don't make uefi variant available as free software
[22:32] <sarnold> squidgy: you can apparently download it from their website for free
[22:33] <sarnold> squidgy: you could probably also configure your system to boot legacy / csm -- normally a bad idea, but I think the boot menu would then show you the way to run memtest
[22:33] <sarnold> just be sure to set it back to uefi when you're done
[22:33] <squidgy> its an x-serve
[22:33] <squidgy> so no legacy built in
[22:33] <squidgy> it didn't recognize the memtest iso on disc
[22:34] <sarnold> https://www.memtest86.com/download.htm  aha. here's where you can grab the uefi version
[22:38] <squidgy> sarnold that version doesn't even show as a boot option
[22:38] <sarnold> squidgy: ugh :/ I'm not currentl in a position to give it a test myself, sorry :(
[22:39] <pavlos> dex1983: so you want .../folder1/subfolder1 to become .../folder1/folder1/subfolder1 ?
[22:39] <squidgy> sarnold wait i downloaded the v4, trying the v8 now
[22:40] <sarnold> squidgy: aha :) that'll do it
[23:03] <elPuma> I am trying to upgrade from 19.04 to 20.04 LTS and in looking up how to do so, I noticed that most information/guides apply to upgrading from 18.04-->20.04, or from 16.04-->20.04, but I couldn't find anything about going from 19.04-->20.04. Would this be because 19.04 is no longer maintained? And, in general, can upgrades only be done from LTS
[23:03] <elPuma> versions or versions that are still being maintained?
[23:08] <Bashing-om> elPuma: 19.04 is long end 0f life - there is an alternate path to upgrade.
[23:08] <Bashing-om> !eol | elPuma
[23:09] <Bashing-om> !19.04
[23:26] <elPuma>  Bashing-om  thanks. It's always nice to find out that some procedure/event/phenomenon has an established term. Know I know that EOL is a thing
[23:26] <elPuma> *now I know
[23:26] <oft_gegong> so CS:GO crashes when I have my controller plugged in and start CS:GO. But if I leave it unplugged at first and then plug it in when the game boots up, CS:GO acknowledges the controller fine. This is all through Steam.
[23:26] <Bashing-om> elPuma: A day in ubuntu I do not learn "something new" is a day wasted :P
[23:27] <squidgy> sarnold booting it now... ;) thanks. sometimes i just need a kick.
[23:27] <sarnold> squidgy: me too
[23:28] <sarnold> squidgy: I've been meaning to replace my router/wifi at home for years now.. and my outgoing director gave me that kick friday afternoon :) "go do it!" .. I didn't actually get the thing done, but it felt good to start :)
[23:29] <squidgy> sarnold same thing here recently... went with aruba
[23:31] <sarnold> squidgy: oh nice :) I bought a bunch of ubnt gear, which always looks so promising, but was actually kinda frustrating to work with last week.. heh.
[23:35] <elPuma> The irony is that I was apprehensive to make the switch to 20.04 because I always like to wait a bit and see if any major bugs are discovered that I should be aware of before making committing to a big change. Guess I waited too long and forgot, lol.
[23:35] <sarnold> elPuma: it might be best to stick on the LTS releases in the future, you'll be prompted at reasonable times to upgade to future releases :)
[23:36] <elPuma> sarnold I figured as much, since now I know that non-LTS versions are like testing grounds for features that are to be added to the LTS versions
[23:36] <nelson777> Hello all, has anyone successfully created a vm with vagrant's ubuntu/focal64 image and static IP ? I've followed several instruction in the web and the vm just hangs.
[23:37] <nelson777> described the problem in detail here: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1271658/vagrant-static-ip-problems-in-ubuntu-focal64
[23:40] <sarnold> nelson777: I've added a handful of small questions to a comment
[23:52] <nelson777> sarnold answered
[23:55] <sarnold> nelson777: hmm, I was sort of hoping it'd reply to ping, I'm not sure where to go next. Are there any logs from vbox?
[23:58] <nelson777> I could get help in #vagrant. A user pointed me to another image (bento/ubuntu-20.04) and it worked flawlessly. How come the main image is so broken I can't  even set a static IP :/