[03:52] kelvinliu: small azure PR if you have time https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/11965 [04:03] wallyworld: lgtm ty [04:04] gr8 ty [06:40] Hi all, [06:40] Quick questions [06:40] About controller and amazon [06:41] when stopping an instance, amazon release public ip. So if I have a juju client trying to connect with a (re)started controller , it can not reach it as public ip changed. [06:41] how do you guys deal with that? [06:42] I can change .local/share/juju/controllers.yaml file, but if so, is there any side effect due to the change of the controller public ip? [06:43] (I sniffed that juju instances communicate with controller through the public ip and private ip) [06:44] sumarized question would be: does controller public ip changes impact anything else like models or instances? [06:52] flxfoo: if the controller has been set up in a HA cluster, the IP addresses of the controllers are used to configure the mongo replicaset. for a single controller, changing the IP in controllers.yaml should be ok. for HA controllers, I think the new IP address would get shared with the other controllers when it restarts so will hopefully be ok in that case too [06:54] wallyworld:thanks, the controller is not under HA. [06:54] wallyworld:let's say just one controller... [06:54] should be ok then [06:55] wallyworld:a quick one (on top) [06:56] it is possible to use Elastic IP amazon product, and that IP would not then change. Is there a way to set that IP when bootstrapping a controller? [06:56] (I am pretty sure it is not) I did not find any kind of setting in bottstrap constraint related to that (in aws mode) [09:35] manadart: small PR https://github.com/juju/charm/pull/315 [10:15] manadart: I wonder whether the (expose-to-spaces and expose-to-cidrs) parameters should only be allowed to be specified via an overlay... [10:15] the exposed-endpoints one is fine to include in a generic bundle [10:15] but spaces are deployment-specific, right? [11:17] any ideas why, on juju 2.8.1, I'd have models get stuck destroying: 'zaza-ad0927e3d0a7* serverstack/serverstack openstack destroying 0 - admin 38 minutes ago'? [11:17] it sesms fairly reliable for me, and if I create another model, no resources from that model will be deletable [11:49] manadart: followup PR to charm https://github.com/juju/charm/pull/316 [12:20] manadart: another small one, this time for bundlechanges https://github.com/juju/bundlechanges/pull/66 [12:41] manadart: is this ok or do we need more tests? https://github.com/juju/bundlechanges/pull/66/commits/1f1bf821bf24d7909faf36aff648f87a9aafe129 [12:44] achilleasa: Good to go, I think. [12:45] I think I may need to do the same for pylibjuju so I created a card so as not to forget and will check with Simon when he's back [14:22] morning all [15:40] is there any reason why i should not use --force with destroy-model ? === tamas_erdei is now known as terdei [20:49] @pmatulis, generally we don't recommend --force by default, as it allows us to bypass certain checks and may leave things behind like security rules/storage/etc. [20:49] I don't know the specifics, but usually --force says "if I get a failure trying to cleanup a resource, keep tearing down the rest" [22:46] jam, alright