| pjotter | tomreyn: No luck so far... | 00:46 |
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| pjotter | Where can I find the source packages for higer versions? | 00:46 |
| Bashing-om | pjotter: 0.10.1-1 -- https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-weather-plugin . | 01:00 |
| Unit193 | See also, `pull-lp-source` | 01:12 |
| pjotter | @Unit193 and @tomreyn. Thanks a million. I totally fixed it now! It's running again. Hurray! | 01:30 |
| pjotter | I took the 8.11 version and applied the fixes that are actually supposed to be applied to 10.1. But they ales did the trick for 8.11 | 01:34 |
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| xubuntu11i | hello | 09:49 |
| xubuntu11i | im posting from a virtual machine | 09:50 |
| saucy | yo, version 20.04 or whatever uses twice as much ram as 18.00 | 12:36 |
| saucy | why did did u have to put a nsa backdoor in it that uses twice as much ram | 12:37 |
| diogenes_ | saucy, that's probably because of snapd. | 12:39 |
| saucy | ugh | 12:39 |
| saucy | I removed snapd but I need it for chromium | 12:39 |
| saucy | yo fricken version 18 used 340mb ram with no snapd, 20 with no snapd is at 600 plus mb of ram usage | 12:43 |
| saucy | these differences make me uncomfortable | 12:44 |
| pmjdebruijn | the fact that chromium is now distributed via snapd, isn't due to xubuntu, that an upstream Ubuntu thing | 12:44 |
| pmjdebruijn | I don't like it either | 12:44 |
| pmjdebruijn | but then again, I usually stick with Firefox anyhow | 12:44 |
| saucy | im on a crapbox laptop that i got for free, firefox isnt as snappy as chromium | 12:45 |
| pmjdebruijn | I'm not saying it is | 12:46 |
| pmjdebruijn | although the difference has gotten much smaller in recent times | 12:46 |
| saucy | i dont disagree with that | 12:46 |
| pmjdebruijn | 18.04 will still be supported a while though | 12:46 |
| saucy | eh, i upgraded | 12:47 |
| pmjdebruijn | well that's the risk you took :) | 12:47 |
| pmjdebruijn | the live iso/usb stuff exists for a reason :) | 12:48 |
| pmjdebruijn | but I'm not snapd fan either, but there not a lot that can be done about that really | 12:48 |
| saucy | isnt snapd closed source? | 12:49 |
| pmjdebruijn | why would you say that? | 12:49 |
| saucy | idk i heard someone say it is | 12:49 |
| pmjdebruijn | people say dumb things... https://packages.ubuntu.com/focal-updates/snapd sources are right there | 12:50 |
| saucy | hmm | 12:50 |
| pmjdebruijn | the backend infrastructure might be though, not sure about that | 12:50 |
| saucy | why doesnt debian use it | 12:51 |
| pmjdebruijn | no clue | 12:51 |
| pmjdebruijn | not sure how that particularly matters | 12:51 |
| saucy | debian u can get chromium right from their packages | 12:52 |
| saucy | no snapd | 12:52 |
| pmjdebruijn | i'm sure you can | 12:52 |
| pmjdebruijn | I'm guessing Canonical moved chromium to snapd, as that probably decreases the amount of work they have to do to support multiple versions of ubuntu | 12:52 |
| pmjdebruijn | but that's just a guess | 12:53 |
| saucy | hmm | 12:53 |
| pmjdebruijn | it's basically canonical competitor to redhat's flatpak | 12:54 |
| pmjdebruijn | redhat pushed flatpak under the gnome/freedesktop.org so it seems vendor neutral | 12:55 |
| pmjdebruijn | I'm guessing flatpak will probably win in the end | 12:55 |
| pmjdebruijn | but i'm not that enthousiastic about either | 12:55 |
| saucy | hmmm | 12:58 |
| pmjdebruijn | https://snapcraft.io/blog/chromium-in-ubuntu-deb-to-snap-transition seems my guess what spot on | 12:59 |
| saucy | its all a cover | 13:01 |
| pmjdebruijn | people being lazy usually fits occams razor very well | 13:02 |
| saucy | opera uses snapd, and its backdoored by the chinese | 13:03 |
| pmjdebruijn | not sure if that's true, but I don't see how that's connected | 13:03 |
| pmjdebruijn | given that opera software will very likely want to invest as little time as possible into maintenance as well, thus choosing snapd | 13:04 |
| pmjdebruijn | saucy: snapd's sources are available, so you're free to audit it | 13:04 |
| pmjdebruijn | or simply deinstall it | 13:05 |
| saucy | ugh | 13:11 |
| saucy | also before i leave | 13:13 |
| saucy | the icons in 20.04 for folders went from blue to brown | 13:13 |
| saucy | for xfce | 13:13 |
| saucy | or whatever | 13:13 |
| saucy | in 18 they were blue | 13:13 |
| saucy | now they are ugly manilla brown | 13:13 |
| saucy | completely unappealing | 13:14 |
| saucy | if this os wasnt free, id be calling support right now and complaining to a person that can barely speak english about the colors of folders | 13:15 |
| aplasticsoldier | how do i look at mario in this | 14:16 |
| az- | hello, where I can find the package x0vncserver, it should come with tighervnc but no it's not there | 16:01 |
| diogenes_ | !info x0vncserver | 16:03 |
| ubottu | Package x0vncserver does not exist in focal | 16:03 |
| tomreyn | az-: where did you read about those packages? which xubuntu release are you using? | 16:13 |
| az- | http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/trusty/man1/x0vnc4server.1.html | 16:13 |
| az- | 18.04.5 | 16:14 |
| az- | http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/bionic/en/man1/x0vnc4server.1.html | 16:14 |
| az- | I've used apt search to find it but seems like I should try vnc4server? | 16:15 |
| tomreyn | yes, i would think so | 16:18 |
| tomreyn | package vnc4server provides /usr/bin/x0vnc4server | 16:20 |
| tomreyn | on 18.04 | 16:21 |
| Cursarion | yo, xfce4-weather-plugin stopped working because met.no deprecated the protocol. It's been fixed already though, someone'd just need to upgrade the package: https://gitlab.xfce.org/panel-plugins/xfce4-weather-plugin/-/commit/97601ab2ad1f9810516be6d3d91c5c9b16d6397a | 16:38 |
| Cursarion | (I'm on 18.04) | 16:40 |
| tomreyn | it'S in universe. this same or another "someone" would need to file a bug about it, and/or provide a patch. | 16:59 |
| tomreyn | someone was here yesterdsy who seemed to report that rebuilding it with just this patch applied made things work again: https://gitlab.xfce.org/panel-plugins/xfce4-weather-plugin/commit/?id=97601ab2ad1f9810516be6d3d91c5c9b16d6397a | 17:01 |
| tomreyn | ... using the process discussed at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpdatingADeb - on their 18.04 installation. | 17:01 |
| tomreyn | Cursarion: ^ | 17:01 |
| tomreyn | !bug | 17:02 |
| ubottu | If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its official !flavors, please report it using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs. | 17:02 |
| Cursarion | does ubuntu-bug allow specifying what's wrong? I ran it and it just shows options about sending or not sending a problem report | 17:22 |
| tomreyn | Cursarion: it collects log files from your system, then forwards you to a website where you can provide further information | 17:37 |
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