[00:46] tomreyn: No luck so far... [00:46] Where can I find the source packages for higer versions? [01:00] pjotter: 0.10.1-1 -- https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-weather-plugin . [01:12] See also, `pull-lp-source` [01:30] @Unit193 and @tomreyn. Thanks a million. I totally fixed it now! It's running again. Hurray! [01:34] I took the 8.11 version and applied the fixes that are actually supposed to be applied to 10.1. But they ales did the trick for 8.11 === Rtfsc9 is now known as Rtfsc8 === randomgry is now known as gry [09:49] hello [09:50] im posting from a virtual machine [12:36] yo, version 20.04 or whatever uses twice as much ram as 18.00 [12:37] why did did u have to put a nsa backdoor in it that uses twice as much ram [12:39] saucy, that's probably because of snapd. [12:39] ugh [12:39] I removed snapd but I need it for chromium [12:43] yo fricken version 18 used 340mb ram with no snapd, 20 with no snapd is at 600 plus mb of ram usage [12:44] these differences make me uncomfortable [12:44] the fact that chromium is now distributed via snapd, isn't due to xubuntu, that an upstream Ubuntu thing [12:44] I don't like it either [12:44] but then again, I usually stick with Firefox anyhow [12:45] im on a crapbox laptop that i got for free, firefox isnt as snappy as chromium [12:46] I'm not saying it is [12:46] although the difference has gotten much smaller in recent times [12:46] i dont disagree with that [12:46] 18.04 will still be supported a while though [12:47] eh, i upgraded [12:47] well that's the risk you took :) [12:48] the live iso/usb stuff exists for a reason :) [12:48] but I'm not snapd fan either, but there not a lot that can be done about that really [12:49] isnt snapd closed source? [12:49] why would you say that? [12:49] idk i heard someone say it is [12:50] people say dumb things... https://packages.ubuntu.com/focal-updates/snapd sources are right there [12:50] hmm [12:50] the backend infrastructure might be though, not sure about that [12:51] why doesnt debian use it [12:51] no clue [12:51] not sure how that particularly matters [12:52] debian u can get chromium right from their packages [12:52] no snapd [12:52] i'm sure you can [12:52] I'm guessing Canonical moved chromium to snapd, as that probably decreases the amount of work they have to do to support multiple versions of ubuntu [12:53] but that's just a guess [12:53] hmm [12:54] it's basically canonical competitor to redhat's flatpak [12:55] redhat pushed flatpak under the gnome/freedesktop.org so it seems vendor neutral [12:55] I'm guessing flatpak will probably win in the end [12:55] but i'm not that enthousiastic about either [12:58] hmmm [12:59] https://snapcraft.io/blog/chromium-in-ubuntu-deb-to-snap-transition seems my guess what spot on [13:01] its all a cover [13:02] people being lazy usually fits occams razor very well [13:03] opera uses snapd, and its backdoored by the chinese [13:03] not sure if that's true, but I don't see how that's connected [13:04] given that opera software will very likely want to invest as little time as possible into maintenance as well, thus choosing snapd [13:04] saucy: snapd's sources are available, so you're free to audit it [13:05] or simply deinstall it [13:11] ugh [13:13] also before i leave [13:13] the icons in 20.04 for folders went from blue to brown [13:13] for xfce [13:13] or whatever [13:13] in 18 they were blue [13:13] now they are ugly manilla brown [13:14] completely unappealing [13:15] if this os wasnt free, id be calling support right now and complaining to a person that can barely speak english about the colors of folders [14:16] how do i look at mario in this [16:01] hello, where I can find the package x0vncserver, it should come with tighervnc but no it's not there [16:03] !info x0vncserver [16:03] Package x0vncserver does not exist in focal [16:13] az-: where did you read about those packages? which xubuntu release are you using? [16:13] http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/trusty/man1/x0vnc4server.1.html [16:14] 18.04.5 [16:14] http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/bionic/en/man1/x0vnc4server.1.html [16:15] I've used apt search to find it but seems like I should try vnc4server? [16:18] yes, i would think so [16:20] package vnc4server provides /usr/bin/x0vnc4server [16:21] on 18.04 [16:38] yo, xfce4-weather-plugin stopped working because met.no deprecated the protocol. It's been fixed already though, someone'd just need to upgrade the package: https://gitlab.xfce.org/panel-plugins/xfce4-weather-plugin/-/commit/97601ab2ad1f9810516be6d3d91c5c9b16d6397a [16:40] (I'm on 18.04) [16:59] it'S in universe. this same or another "someone" would need to file a bug about it, and/or provide a patch. [17:01] someone was here yesterdsy who seemed to report that rebuilding it with just this patch applied made things work again: https://gitlab.xfce.org/panel-plugins/xfce4-weather-plugin/commit/?id=97601ab2ad1f9810516be6d3d91c5c9b16d6397a [17:01] ... using the process discussed at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpdatingADeb - on their 18.04 installation. [17:01] Cursarion: ^ [17:02] !bug [17:02] If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its official !flavors, please report it using the command « ubuntu-bug » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs. [17:22] does ubuntu-bug allow specifying what's wrong? I ran it and it just shows options about sending or not sending a problem report [17:37] Cursarion: it collects log files from your system, then forwards you to a website where you can provide further information === Rtfsc10 is now known as Rtfsc8