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[09:10] <santa_> good morning everybody
[09:10] <santa_> RikMills: thanks, already attenting though BBB
[09:10] <santa_> valorie: ↑
[09:33] <santa_> * attending
[09:59] <santa_> RikMills: why is the acc test disabled for kconfig now? was it failing?
[10:01] <RikMills> santa_: just experimenting to see if we could drop more tests
[10:02] <santa_> RikMills: the acc tests are ok and usefult, the problems are onyl the tetssuite ones
[10:02] <santa_> I don't think dropiing the acc is a good thing to do, they are meant to keep the -dev dependencies in shape
[10:03] <santa_> s/onyl/only/
[10:04] <santa_> s/usefult/useful/
[10:05] <santa_> s/dropiing/dropping/
[10:05] <RikMills> maybe we can run them some other way than spamming the infra with a bazillion rdeps tests
[10:08] <santa_> oh, yes, that's a different story :)
[10:09] <santa_> maybe we could do what you did + a gbp-test thing to build with the acc enabled?
[10:10] <santa_> so this way we would have them disabled in the archive but I could get them enabled when building on my server
[10:10] <RikMills> that sounds reasonable
[10:11] <santa_> ok, I take note
[10:11] <santa_> by the way, this weekend we should have frameworks tarballs, may I take care of this particular update?
[10:11] <santa_> I would like to test the latest in KA + I'm in the process of updating the docs
[10:12] <santa_> we have a few new things that are outdated in the manual
[10:12] <RikMills> fine by me
[10:13] <santa_> ack, if possible when doing the upload to the archive it would be nice if you could review the relevant part of the docs while doing it
[10:14] <RikMills> I was getting ready to do it, so aborting that now!
[10:14] <santa_> ok, thanks and sorry for the inconvenience
[10:15] <RikMills> np. not sure the tars are out. was just cloning in a container
[10:16] <santa_> I don't see any mail on release team yet
[10:17] <RikMills> no tars on ftp either
[12:05] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:24] <santa_> RikMills: KA docs updated in master, please feel free to review
[13:25] <santa_> I might need to update the part of ppa-build-status because I think it's required to copy the css file
[14:37] <RikMills> santa_: thanks
[14:37] <RikMills> mparillo: install kipi-plugins and see what happens
 kipi-plugins installed fine here. apt show says the kipi-plugins enhances spectacle and gwenview... but I cannot see a difference at a glance...
[16:51] <santa_> RikMills: wrt the fw 5.74 I'm going to do as soon as se have the tarballs I have 2 questions:
[16:52] <santa_> 1. do you want me to use kubuntu_groovy_staging or kubuntu_groovy_backports (just in case)?
[16:52] <santa_> 2. should I merge kubuntu_unstable given the KCI is off now?
[16:53] <RikMills> 1. groovy_staging for now please
[16:53] <santa_> sure, what about 2.?
[16:54] <RikMills> 2. merge from unstable would bring anything useful at the moment
[16:54] <RikMills> *would not bring
[16:54] <santa_> ok, so I will skip that step then
[17:57] <mparillo> RikMills: Thank you. Installing kipi-plugins worked. Konsole Output: https://invent.kde.org/-/snippets/1184  Result: https://i.imgur.com/OEvk84R.png
 What do the plugins do?
[18:00] <mparillo> Spectacle now has the ability to directly share your screenshot to Imgur. But it has another option to share with More Online Servcices. The other day I noticed these options when testing Spectacle because Spectacle was listed among the new 2020.08.1 KDE Apps.
[18:01] <mparillo> I alerted Rik that, if you select More Online Services, you get some kind of error around KIPI Plug-ins. He replied today that the fix is to install them.
[18:02] <mparillo> So installing it, gave me those 20 or so options you see in the screen shot.
 ah, quite slick!
[18:04] <mparillo> I suppose the follow-on question is whether we want to have the kipi plugins part of the default (full) install, and maybe not part of the minimal install.
[18:05] <valorie> oh gosh, Johan Thelin's talk about linux in cars -- is being delivered from a car
[18:05] <valorie> <3
[18:06] <mparillo> I hope he is not driving
 Unless I mis-read, it's only a 28.5MB package so I would vote to include it to avoid the error.
 If you go into the touchscreen system info menu in my car, IIRC it says what linux it runs and other versions of opensourse bit used :)
 my truck uses open source SW. :)
[18:21] <mparillo> Alas my wife's new car appears to have an iPad in its navigation console. When you have a co-pilot, it is wonderful, but I believe a touchscreen, especially with so many options, down well below eye-level is a danger. But even if I focus on the non-free software, that is off-topic for this channel.
[20:33] <santa_> the tarballs that never come
[20:34] <santa_> the tarball of the beholder
[20:34] <santa_> frayed ends of tarballs
[20:34] <santa_> vulgar display of tarballs
[20:35] <santa_> ride the tarballing
[20:35] <santa_> jump in the tarball
[20:36] <santa_> harvester of tarballs
[20:36] <santa_> dude, where is my tarball?
[20:37] <santa_> hardwired to self tarball
[20:38] <santa_> I'm going to wait "all tarball long" to see if I can leave the thing building in the night
[21:12] <mparillo> A watched microwave never beeps.
[21:12] <santa_> just a tarball away