[04:19] good morning [04:33] morning [04:54] hey sorcerer [06:47] good morning [07:43] Heya! === akemhp is now known as akem [08:39] hey akem received your device yet? [08:40] lotuspsychje, Heya, no, it will take at least a week i think cause its sourced in another country. [08:40] ah okay keep us informed ; ) [08:40] Yep no problem :) [08:41] I have my parcel stuck in the Portuguese customs for a week :) [08:41] they already released it, but the date in the tracking still says the same thing === akemhp_ is now known as akem [09:32] I really like Lubuntu, more than regular Ubuntu :P [09:33] I installed 2 of them on laptops from few years ago with 4GB RAM. [09:34] The user experience on this version of Ubuntu is very pleasant for me. [09:42] 1 laptop plugged to the TV is streaming stuff from a server, and optionnaly can youtube etc, just great. [10:10] akem, yeah desktop has it's advantages.. which can make deciding which you like best very hard [10:46] guiverc, Yeah the UI design and usage, and the fact that Gnome can get sluggish easier at least on some configurations. [10:49] for some work flows I actually like GNOME, but generally not my-cup-of-tea. LXQt is my goto, but I do really like XFCE/Xubuntu, and also have recently decided I like KDE/Kubuntu again (I loved it for quite some time long ago).. (i can logout & swich to another DE as I bloat my systems with multiple..) [10:52] Hehe :) [10:53] Never really tried XFCE, i heard its good. [10:55] XFCE is really cool, also somewhat light/fast. Xubuntu/XFCE is rather plain to look at I find, but allows you to configure it into almost anything (what I love), only KDE probably offers more configuration.. The initial blandness is to keep out of your way (business like), but can be changed [10:57] It's another GTK+ DE... was really light whilst GTK2 (like LXDE was), and was slower to move to GTK3 (unlike say MATE) so remained light far longer than most.. [10:58] I will try XUbuntu live USB. I wonder if they have a full dark theme for the OS, including file manager etc cause white background is hard on the eyes :P That's what i'm missing on LUbuntu. You can get one somhow but you have to do tricky stuff or install other softwares, not supported out of the box. [11:00] akem, see https://discourse.lubuntu.me/t/lxqt-apps-do-not-respect-chosen-theme/612/5 for using dark themes in LXQt/Lubuntu (pretty easy) [11:02] I can't recall what's default with Xubuntu.. I'm not worried if stuff isn't default, as I add it (all the flavors have 'universe' default anyway making it easy) [11:02] guiverc, Ok, thx for the link, i will try that on my machines. [11:26] guiverc, Awesome it works for the dark theme ;) thanks. [12:04] you're most welcome [12:43] How can I detect if gnome has crashed? [12:43] croraf: /var/crash [12:43] Will the UIs of other apps still work? [12:54] croraf: when the base crashes, unwanted behaviour can happen, not sure if we can make general statements for every gnome crash [12:55] lotuspsychje, I dont see gnome in /var/crash [12:55] Only skype from 3 days ago, but skype crashed today also. [12:56] croraf: so skype crash made you think gnome had crashed or..? [13:00] lotuspsychje, no, I think these are 2 unrelated issues. [13:01] I had gnome crash couple of times and skype crash couple of times (i can reproduce skype one, the gnome a bit harder to reproduce) [13:01] Both happening after kernel and firmware regular update last week. [13:02] But also this skype crash is not registered in /var/crash (the date is from 3 days ago, today's skype crash was not registered, perhaps I force quit it before the crash) [13:03] lotuspsychje, is there any command to check if gnome is running correctly? [13:04] The issue is triggered on trying to use the Screenshot app. [13:27] croraf: when you have ubuntu issues, you can ask them in #ubuntu if you like [13:27] ok, i just wanted to know how can i check if gnome is down or running [13:27] lotuspsychje, === edoneerf is now known as hielliot === hielliot is now known as edoneerf [20:13] UWN647 is on the streets: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue647 :D