[04:19] <lotuspsychje> good morning
[04:33] <sorcerer> morning
[04:54] <lotuspsychje> hey sorcerer
[06:47] <ducasse> good morning
[07:43] <marcoagpinto> Heya!
[08:39] <lotuspsychje> hey akem received your device yet?
[08:40] <akem> lotuspsychje, Heya, no, it will take at least a week i think cause its sourced in another country.
[08:40] <lotuspsychje> ah okay keep us informed ; )
[08:40] <akem> Yep no problem :)
[08:41] <marcoagpinto> I have my parcel stuck in the Portuguese customs for a week :)
[08:41] <marcoagpinto> they already released it, but the date in the tracking still says the same thing
[09:32] <akem> I really like Lubuntu, more than regular Ubuntu :P
[09:33] <akem> I installed 2 of them on laptops from few years ago with 4GB RAM.
[09:34] <akem> The user experience on this version of Ubuntu is very pleasant for me.
[09:42] <akem> 1 laptop plugged to the TV is streaming stuff from a server, and optionnaly can youtube etc, just great.
[10:10] <guiverc> akem, yeah desktop has it's advantages.. which can make deciding which you like best very hard
[10:46] <akem> guiverc, Yeah the UI design and usage, and the fact that Gnome can get sluggish easier at least on some configurations.
[10:49] <guiverc> for some work flows I actually like GNOME, but generally not my-cup-of-tea.  LXQt is my goto, but I do really like XFCE/Xubuntu, and also have recently decided I like KDE/Kubuntu again (I loved it for quite some time long ago)..  (i can logout & swich to another DE as I bloat my systems with multiple..)
[10:52] <akem> Hehe :)
[10:53] <akem> Never really tried XFCE, i heard its good.
[10:55] <guiverc> XFCE is really cool, also somewhat light/fast. Xubuntu/XFCE is rather plain to look at I find, but allows you to configure it into almost anything (what I love), only KDE probably offers more configuration.. The initial blandness is to keep out of your way (business like), but can be changed
[10:57] <guiverc> It's another GTK+ DE... was really light whilst GTK2 (like LXDE was), and was slower to move to GTK3 (unlike say MATE) so remained light far longer than most..
[10:58] <akem> I will try XUbuntu live USB. I wonder if they have a full dark theme for the OS, including file manager etc cause white background is hard on the eyes :P That's what i'm missing on LUbuntu. You can get one somhow but you have to do tricky stuff or install other softwares, not supported out of the box.
[11:00] <guiverc> akem, see https://discourse.lubuntu.me/t/lxqt-apps-do-not-respect-chosen-theme/612/5 for using dark themes in LXQt/Lubuntu  (pretty easy)
[11:02] <guiverc> I can't recall what's default with Xubuntu.. I'm not worried if stuff isn't default, as I add it (all the flavors have 'universe' default anyway making it easy)
[11:02] <akem> guiverc, Ok, thx for the link, i will try that on my machines.
[11:26] <akem> guiverc, Awesome it works for the dark theme ;) thanks.
[12:04] <guiverc> you're most welcome
[12:43] <croraf> How can I detect if gnome has crashed?
[12:43] <lotuspsychje> croraf: /var/crash
[12:43] <croraf> Will the UIs of other apps still work?
[12:54] <lotuspsychje> croraf: when the base crashes, unwanted behaviour can happen, not sure if we can make general statements for every gnome crash
[12:55] <croraf> lotuspsychje, I dont see gnome in /var/crash
[12:55] <croraf> Only skype from 3 days ago, but skype crashed today also.
[12:56] <lotuspsychje> croraf: so skype crash made you think gnome had crashed or..?
[13:00] <croraf> lotuspsychje, no, I think these are 2 unrelated issues.
[13:01] <croraf> I had gnome crash couple of times and skype crash couple of times (i can reproduce skype one, the gnome a bit harder to reproduce)
[13:01] <croraf> Both happening after kernel and firmware regular update last week.
[13:02] <croraf> But also this skype crash is not registered in /var/crash (the date is from 3 days ago, today's skype crash was not registered, perhaps I force quit it before the crash)
[13:03] <croraf> lotuspsychje, is there any command to check if gnome is running correctly?
[13:04] <croraf> The issue is triggered on trying to use the Screenshot app.
[13:27] <lotuspsychje> croraf: when you have ubuntu issues, you can ask them in #ubuntu if you like
[13:27] <croraf> ok, i just wanted to know how can i check if gnome is down or running
[13:27] <croraf> lotuspsychje,
[20:13] <Bashing-om> UWN647 is on the streets: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue647 :D