[01:54] <Mylon> Help!  My laptop is having difficulting maintaining a connection to my wireless network.  It keeps asking for the password, but if I toggle the wifi on/off it reconnects and stays connected for 30-60 minutes and then it drops again.
[01:54] <Mylon> I did not have this problem until yesterday.  I think it might be related to a software update?
[01:55] <Mylon> Additionally, I plugged it into a wired connection but that doesn't seem to work at all.
[01:55] <Mylon> How do I fix my network connection so it stops disconnecting me?
[02:01] <sharpie> Mylon, is this happening while the laptop is on battery? or plugged into power?
[02:02] <Mylon> Plugged in.
[02:09] <Mylon> It doesn't seem to even last 5 minutes at this point.
[02:09] <Mylon> Maybe it's a hardware failure.
[02:09] <Mylon> But that doesn't explain why the wired connection won't work.
[02:12] <coolchris> hello after careful evualution i have determined ubuntu is a piece of shit
[02:13] <coolchris> i am going back to windows
[02:13] <Mylon> Cool story bro.
[02:13] <coolchris> yea i heard the total cost of ownership of windows is cheaper bfro
[02:13] <coolchris> bro
[02:14] <guiverc> Mylon, you didn't mention your release that I can see, is it the same on older kernels?  (ie. does your system not like a recent security patch for example..)
[02:14] <guiverc> coolchris, this is a support channel, not for mindless rants
[02:14] <Mylon> I'm on 18.04.  I don't recall having done any kernel updates in a while, so unless it's done automatically via Discover, I doubt it's happened.
[02:14] <coolchris> i can say what i want its called freedom of speech
[02:15] <coolchris> man i hate ubuntu
[02:15] <guiverc> I would still try other (older) kernel options still present to see if any different; given its easy to try (select an older one at grub during boot)
[02:15] <Mylon> This problem seems to have gotten progressively worse over the day and it went from "usable but annoying" earlier to simply not working at all now.
[02:16] <coolchris> why don't you ban me
[02:16] <coolchris> if you are mad
[02:17] <Mylon> Hmm, let's try 5.3
[02:19] <coolchris> in conculsion ubuntu sucks
[02:19] <coolchris> even gentoo linux is better
[02:22] <coolchris> ban me lol
[02:28] <Eickmeyer> !ops
[02:29] <Nebula_W2081d> Uh oh.
[02:29] <Mylon> Here comes the big guns.
[02:30] <sharpie> Mylon, I imagine you have you re set your wireless AP/router? Other wireless devices are performing as expected?
[02:31] <Mylon> I tried resetting my AP but that didn't change anything.  My phone uses the internet just fine.
[02:32] <Mylon> My laptop is weird because it asks me for a password, but if I turn the wireless off/on then it works.
[02:32] <Mylon> And I dont' have to reinput it.
[02:32] <sharpie> Mylon, do you have a known good USB wireless dongle you could try?
[02:32] <Mylon> After rebooting, on kernel 5.3.something, it seems to be maintaining a connection now.
[02:33] <Mylon> I do not.  I do have an ethernet cable, and my router reports my computer has an IP address...
[02:33] <Mylon> But I can't seem to connect using wired only.
[02:33] <Mylon> Connect to the internet I mean.
[02:34] <Nebula_W2081d> Is dhcpcd running?
[02:34] <Mylon> I assume so... Because the laptop is working (for now)
[02:37] <sharpie> Mylon, have you tried re seating your ethernet connections?
[02:41] <Mylon> I just tried that.  And it seems it is not showing up on my router's client list after all.
[02:41] <Mylon> I'll try another cable.
[02:42] <Mylon> Router light is blinking...
[02:42] <Mylon> So it's detecting a connection via the cable.
[02:42] <ailion> I'm asked to replace ntpd by chrony for servers in my company's data center.
[02:43] <ailion> Is chrony better than ntpd?
[02:43] <coventry> Anyone have any suggestions about why I might be having trouble finding a core file, here? https://askubuntu.com/questions/1271892/trouble-finding-core-dump-in-ubuntu-18-04-in-application-built-from-source
[02:44] <guiverc> coventry, that question doesn't mention OS/release
[02:45] <Mylon> And with this cable my router doesn't get any lights...
[02:45] <Mylon> I guess that cable goes in the trash.
[02:45] <coventry> guiverc: Hmm, it says "Ubuntu 18.04" in the title. Does it need to say more than that?
[02:45] <guiverc> coventry, sorry it's in the heading, (best to put it in question too as some browser setups don't show heading when page open)
[02:45] <coventry> OK.
[02:51] <guiverc> coventry, you've enabled apport as per https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Apport  (How to enable apport section)
[02:52] <coventry> Yes, and verified that `sleep 10 & killall -SIGSEGV sleep` induces a core file in /var/crash.
[02:57] <guiverc> yeah sorry it was my only idea.
[02:57] <coventry> np, thanks for taking a look.
[03:01] <Mylon> I'm back.  When reseating cables I seem to have dislodged the WAN cable.  Oops.
[03:11] <sharpie> Mylon, hopefully the changes to the kernel and the ethernet cable have resolved your connection issues :)
[03:11] <Mylon> Kernel yes.  wired port still does not seem to be working.
[03:13] <sharpie> have you tried a different LAN port on your router/switch?
[03:14] <Mylon> No luck with that.
[03:21] <sharpie> might be time to look up the specs of the mobo and see if you can replace or re seat the LAN connection on your laptop.
[03:26] <Mylon> Laptop is... 6 years old now?  And it's not a particularly expensive one.
[03:26] <Mylon> I'd rather scrap it than go to that extent.
[03:27] <Mylon> I recently upgraded my computer so I'd probably forgo even that and add another monitor to my workstation.
[03:27] <Mylon> Recently upgraded my desktop I mean.
[03:27] <rfm> Mylon, at least pull the plug out and look in the RJ45 to see if the litth springy wires are messed up
[03:30] <Mylon> They seem to be fine.
[03:30] <Mylon> The router shows a blinking light which suggests there's continuity between the router and laptop.
[03:30] <sharpie> I'm in the same boat, I'm currently on a 2015 refurb. However I have opened the beast up a couple times. Fixed a disconnected wifi cable, replaced the cpu fan/heat sink, and added a ssd.
[03:31] <sharpie> does lspci show the interface?
[03:32] <Mylon> Heh, my old laptop I did resolder the power connector on it.
[03:33] <Mylon> Yep.  RTL810xE PCI Express fast ethernet controller.
[03:33] <Mylon> Of course, that also shows my bluetooth adapter which hasn't worked in years.
[03:34] <Mylon> I think it worked on 16.04 or 14.04, but stopped working somewhere along the way.
[03:35] <sharpie> I used to do pc and commercial printer repair. Appreciate the solder!
[03:38] <Mylon> Me stance with the soldering iron is... It's already broke so I can't make it worse.  :D
[03:39] <Mylon> Surprisingly barely knowing what I'm doing, it still yields results.
[03:40] <sharpie> I had no formal training either, but a couple guys at work gave me the lowdown and helped me get started.
[04:18] <chieta> i've followed wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/SFTP_chroot#Installation  but still i have to add line  on  Match section "Match LocalPort 38250"
[04:53] <chieta> i've followed wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/SFTP_chroot#Installation  but still i have to add line  on  Match section "Match LocalPort 38250" to make it running im on ubuntu 18.04.5 with openssh-sftp-server                       1:7.6p1-4ubuntu0.3  && openssh-server                       1:7.6p1-4ubuntu0.3
[04:56] <chieta> the user still traverse the outside directory eg: /var/log with this config https://bpa.st/DQHA ... why ?
[05:23] <Manouchehri> How can I downgrade to 4.15 on Ubuntu 20.04?
[05:25] <lotuspsychje> Manouchehri: downgrading kernels is not the ubuntu way
[05:25] <Manouchehri> alright, I'll try upgrading
[05:25] <lotuspsychje> Manouchehri: 20.04 starts with kernel 5.4 and you can use !mainline to test higher kernels
[05:26] <Manouchehri> kk, downloading 5.8.7 to test now
[05:26] <lotuspsychje> Manouchehri: whats the exact purpose you need another kernel then the current one?
[05:26] <Manouchehri> lotuspsychje: USB controller/devices aren't working. This is a guest Ubuntu VM on ESXi
[05:26] <Manouchehri> I'm unsure who to blame tbh
[05:44] <xbfrog> can .exe files be installed in ubuntu? or are they just windows files?
[05:46] <xbfrog> i have a tccmebius hard drive dock and they say the dock is compatible with windows, mac os, and linux
[05:47] <xbfrog> but the software unpacks files that has a setup.exe
[05:47] <Maik> .exe are windows executable files
[05:47] <xbfrog> what i thot
[05:47] <xbfrog> thanks
[05:49] <xbfrog> i just thought it might be usable in ubuntu cause i can use zip and rar files in both win and linux
[05:50] <xbfrog> so, ok thanks for clarifying this
[05:57] <Manouchehri> bleh
[06:27] <jescis> xbfrog: according to an interview with Linus Torvalds, linux can execute windows .exe files! But I've tried it on ubuntu and it doesn't work! I can't remember when, or where I saw the interview. However I remember him saying it can be executed!
[06:28] <xbfrog> ok thanks
[06:28] <xbfrog> but i cant get it to work either
[06:29] <xbfrog> i'm emailing the company now trying to get linux software for the dock
[06:29] <xbfrog> amazon's website confirms its compatible with win, mac os, and linux
[06:33] <xbfrog> the company site has 2 software downloads for this product and both are setup.exe
[06:33] <xbfrog> neither will install :P
[06:35] <tatertotz> you should probably just connect it and go from there
[06:35] <tatertotz> it's just a USB interface
[06:35] <xbfrog> i have connected it and i want to clone the os and transfer it to the drive i have in the dock
[06:36] <xbfrog> but without the software how do i get the blank drive recognized?
[06:36] <tatertotz> are you chatting from the computer right now? yes/no
[06:36] <xbfrog> no
[06:37] <xbfrog> well wait, you mean where the drive is connected? yes
[06:37] <tatertotz> is there a drive in the dock and it's plugged into your usb port?
[06:38] <xbfrog> correct
[06:38] <wb9688> Does it show up in lsblk?
[06:38] <xbfrog> also powered on
[06:38] <xbfrog> dont know will check
[06:39] <tatertotz> in terminal>    journalctl -b 0 -n 60|nc termbin.com 9999
[06:39] <tatertotz> share url/link here
[06:41] <xbfrog> https://termbin.com/vg240
[06:51] <xbfrog> i'm not that familar with terminal or lsblk, i dont see it unless its listed as sdc
[06:52] <xbfrog> its a 1tb ssd
[06:56] <ThinkT510> xbfrog: I can see this line: Sep 06 23:34:09 xBfrog udisksd[935]: Error performing housekeeping for drive /org/freedesktop/UDisks2/drives/Samsung_SSD_860_QVO_1TB_S59HNG0N521674L: Error updating SMART data: sk_disk_smart_read_data: Operation not supported (udisks-error-quark, 0)
[06:58] <xbfrog> ok is there an english translation for that ? :)
[06:59] <ThinkT510> xbfrog: is this an external drive?
[07:00] <wb9688> xbfrog: lsblk also says the size, and if that external drive is the only 1 TB storage device in/attached to your system and lsblk thinks that sdc is about 1 TB, it most likely is sdc.
[07:00] <xbfrog> i have 2 working drives connected one in the laptop and the other an external usb 2tb drive, and now the new 1tb drive i would like to put a clone of the laptop os
[07:00] <tatertotz> xbfrog: in terminal>   lsblk -f|nc termbin.com 9999
[07:00] <xbfrog> ok
[07:00] <wb9688> ThinkT510: He mentioned it being a hard drive dock
[07:01] <xbfrog> yes the one i want to use/change is in a usb dock
[07:01] <ThinkT510> wb9688: thanks
[07:01] <ThinkT510> xbfrog: I see a lot of this too: Sep 06 23:33:40 xBfrog kernel: usb 2-1.1: reset SuperSpeed Gen 1 USB device number 3 using xhci_hcd
[07:02] <xbfrog> https://termbin.com/hkrs
[07:04] <ThinkT510> xbfrog: is there another slot you could plug it in?
[07:05] <tatertotz> xbfrog: /dev/sdc is your new drive
[07:05] <tatertotz> xbfrog: it doesn't have any partitions, the 2TB is NTFS
[07:06] <tatertotz> xbfrog: sound about right?
[07:07] <xbfrog> right the new drive is in the dock and it only has one slot for 2.5 sata
[07:07] <xbfrog> otherwize i'd have to buy a seperate ush to sata connector
[07:08] <tatertotz> xbfrog: your OS is on that smallest drive 500GB, with 2TB Storage1 for storage
[07:08] <xbfrog> so its not showing in my files because its not formatted?
[07:08] <xbfrog> yes correct
[07:09] <tatertotz> xbfrog: it doesn't have a  partition or file system
[07:09] <xbfrog> no it doesnt
[07:09] <tatertotz> xbfrog:  /dev/sdc it doesn't have a  partition or file system
[07:10] <ThinkT510> xbfrog: you can use gparted to format it
[07:10] <xbfrog> right thats what i thought i could do with the dock software
[07:10] <tatertotz> xbfrog: have you already made a image of your 500GB OS drive?
[07:10] <xbfrog> ok i have that installed
[07:10] <xbfrog> no i have not
[07:11] <tatertotz> g(part)ition)ed
[07:11] <xbfrog> so use gparted to partition and format
[07:11] <xbfrog> then make an image of the laptop drive
[07:11] <xbfrog> then send it over?
[07:11] <tatertotz> depends on how and what you will use to create the image
[07:12] <xbfrog> whatever is easiest
[07:12] <xbfrog> some suggested drivezilla
[07:12] <xbfrog> but i have never used that
[07:12] <tatertotz> clonezilla
[07:12] <xbfrog> ok sorry clone
[07:13] <xbfrog> which one would be easier to use? or they about the same in dificulty?
[07:13] <tatertotz> clonezilla will do the job
[07:14] <mra90> I try to install sublime by "sudo apt-get install sublime-text" but I get error message saying "E: unable to locate package sublime-text"
[07:14] <xbfrog> ok
[07:14] <mra90> why is that?
[07:14] <tatertotz> its fairly easy
[07:14] <xbfrog> ok i'll try it then
[07:14] <tatertotz> mra90: there is no package by that name found
[07:15] <guiverc> mra90, there is no package of that name in Ubuntu (https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=all&searchon=names&keywords=sublime-text)  it's not open source uploaded to Ubuntu repos
[07:15] <mra90> yes it seems to be tyhe problem
[07:18] <wb9688> mra90: https://www.sublimetext.com/docs/3/linux_repositories.html
[07:19] <mra90> I have downloaded the linux package of subblime from their webstie, now how to install it?
[07:19] <mra90> there is no reradme file inside
[07:19] <mra90> nor install
[07:19] <mra90> readme*
[07:21] <ThinkT510> mra90: better to do it the way wb9688 suggests. add the repo then you can apt-get install it
[07:21] <mra90> ThinkT510, wb9688 I think so however what is the way to install the software after you hvae downloaded its package?
[07:25] <ThinkT510> mra90: no
[07:25] <mra90> ThinkT510, what do you mean?
[07:26] <mra90> so the package is not installable??
[07:26] <mra90> what would be the point of that
[07:26] <ThinkT510> mra90: it is best to use repos rather than download individual packages due to handling updates and software dependancies
[07:27] <ThinkT510> mra90: if you are happy to manually keep it up to date and manage any dependancies then you can install it from a single download file
[07:27] <mra90> ThinkT510, but the point is there is no installation tool inside the package
[07:28] <mra90> although there is a runing program already
[07:28] <mra90> so I can run it right away
[07:28] <ThinkT510> mra90: some software can be made available as an appimage
[07:29] <mra90> then how to install it so system recognizes it
[07:30] <zaizaiz86> so ubuntu decided not to start today
[07:30] <ThinkT510> mra90: if it is an appimage then you just make it executable but I feel I need to reiterate it would be better installing from the repo
[07:30] <zaizaiz86> and I have work to do
[07:31] <zaizaiz86> after I selected "Ubuntu" from the loading screen, where it shows "Advacned Ubuntu something"
[07:31] <zaizaiz86> dark screen
[07:34] <wb9688> zaizaiz86: Try booting with another kernel in that screen (might be under advanced)
[07:34] <zaizaiz86> dont work
[07:35] <wb9688> ThinkT510: It appears to be some .tar.bz2 with executables in it that Sublime offers on their site
[07:35] <wb9688> zaizaiz86: Have you recently updated any package?
[07:36] <zaizaiz86> I have deleted quiet splash
[07:37] <zaizaiz86> it shows "Suspending console (use no_console_suspend) to debug
[07:37] <zaizaiz86> does this mean my OS is basically screwed?
[07:38] <zaizaiz86> Yesterday morning, but I worked all day on my pc
[07:41] <wb9688> zaizaiz86: No idea, could you try adding that no_console_suspend parameter (and still delete quiet splash of course)? Have you successfully rebooted at least once after the updates?
[07:41] <zaizaiz86> I have not rebooted yesterday all day
[07:42] <mra90> ThinkT510, thanks I manageed to install it
[07:47] <rfm> zaizaiz86, it looks like that message is normal when the computer is suspending.  is this a laptop or other thing than runs on a battery?
[07:48] <rfm> zaizaiz86, it sounds to me like the computer is suspending due to low battery, and when you try to restart it it immediately notices the battery is low and suspends.
[07:48] <rfm> zaizaiz86, is the charger plugged in (at both ends, I'm forever having my charger plug fall out of the wall socket and waking up to a dead battery...)
[07:50] <zaizaiz86> interesting
[07:50] <zaizaiz86> it is fully charged
[07:50] <zaizaiz86> I can tell you 100% it is fully charged, because I have an indicator on the cable
[07:53] <rfm> zaizaiz86, that just shows the charger is plugged in the wall, if the power socket on the laptop is making a bad connection (Dell laptops are prone to this) it won't charge   Sometimes there is a button or function key to display the charge status...
[07:53] <zaizaiz86> no
[07:53] <zaizaiz86> it is fully charged
[07:53] <zaizaiz86> I have an indicator
[07:53] <zaizaiz86> it is a macbook pro
[07:53] <zaizaiz86> the OS is to blame
[07:54] <zaizaiz86> I think it thinks it is in suspend mode
[07:54] <zaizaiz86> https://imgur.com/cMMvJxC
[08:00] <zaizaiz86> Hello? No fix for this?
[08:00] <zaizaiz86> I really have to work today :(
[08:02] <rfm> zaizaiz86, googling around for "macbook pro only turns on for a second" shows this is a common symptom of a fried motherboard.  no reason to think it's a software problem, but the thing to do would be to try booting from another device (live cd on a usb stick for example)  don't ask me how to do that on a mac...
[08:03] <rfm> zaizaiz86, and I'm off..
[08:18] <zaizaiz86> just booted from live iso
[08:18] <zaizaiz86> basically this shit OS just nuked itself
[08:18] <zaizaiz86> and I have setup my development env all over again
[08:18] <zaizaiz86> It JuSt WeeeRkzz
[08:21] <justabeginner> is this channel chat logged somewhere where I can go through previously chatted ?
[08:22] <wb9688> justabeginner: https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/
[08:26] <lotuspsychje> zaizaiz86: please keep this channel familly friendly language
[08:27] <zaizaiz86> lotuspsychje, my appologies
[08:27] <zaizaiz86> my frustation got the best of me
[08:33] <no_gravity> Are there any distraction free text editors in Ubuntu?
[08:33] <no_gravity> I tried LibreOffice, but you cannot disable pagebreaks and still have margins around the text with it.
[08:34] <xtao> vim
[08:35] <no_gravity> xtao: vim has no margins around the text.
[08:37] <xbfrog> ok the drive is now partitioned. what i would like to ask now does the old drive need to be in the computer to make a disk clone image or can i use the docking station since the drive is already out?
[09:14] <ThinkT510> xbfrog: if the docking station is connected via usb then you'll be limited by the speed of the usb port
[09:15] <xbfrog> sok, i dont care
[09:15] <xbfrog> i just wanna clone it from the dock
[09:15] <xbfrog> is that possible?
[09:15] <ThinkT510> xbfrog: then yes you can
[09:15] <xbfrog> ok wonderful
[09:16] <xbfrog> thats perfect then
[09:17] <xbfrog> ok guess its time to boot clonezilla :) be bak later, thanks for all the help
[09:27] <croraf> Hi. I have 10 entries (5 different kernels) in the GRUB when booting. I want a 6th one to boot by default. I changed /etc/default/grub and run grub-update. But still the 0th entry is booting by default
[09:27] <croraf> Anyone knows what is the issue?
[09:31] <croraf> Oh wait the second, this is just for the main GRUB menu, not the linux submenu
[09:39] <EriC^^> croraf: can you type "(cat /boot/grub/grub.cfg /etc/default/grub)| nc termbin.com 9999" and paste the link
[09:40] <rj175> Good morning all. Sorry, I mentioned this on Friday however I cant see if anyone replied, when trying to install a fully automated install of 20.04 desktop using a seed file we are getting  "No Root Filesystem is defined". Has anyone seen something similar? we are using lvm with encryption
[09:40] <croraf> EriC^^, https://termbin.com/6zo6
[09:41] <croraf> EriC^^, also check https://askubuntu.com/a/110738/754424 I will attempt that
[09:41] <EriC^^> 1 sec
[09:41] <EriC^^> croraf: which kernel do you want to boot?
[09:41] <croraf> EriC^^, Ubuntu, with Linux 5.4.0-45-generic
[09:42] <EriC^^> croraf: ok, type 'sudo nano /etc/default/grub'
[09:42] <croraf> Should I input GRUB_DEFAULT='Advanced options for Ubuntu>Ubuntu, with Linux 5.4.0-45-generic'
[09:42] <croraf> EriC^^,
[09:42] <EriC^^> yes, that's correct
[09:43] <croraf> let me try
[09:43] <EriC^^> then save & sudo update-grub
[09:44] <croraf> I cannot even copy from this hexchat, something is wrong :/
[09:45] <croraf> Or its actually my terminal....
[09:45] <croraf> I'm on this testing 5.9 kernel
[09:50] <giaco> I have an unencrypted root ubuntu 20.04 installation that I want to turn into a LUKS encrypted one. Is there any guide I can follow? Do you know if this is feasible or is better to format and reinstall
[09:52] <EriC^^> croraf: what happened when you tried rebooting?
[09:52] <EriC^^> giaco: it's feasible but it's easier to reinstall, it's up to you
[09:55] <croraf> EriC^^, thanks, It worked!
[09:55] <EriC^^> croraf: great, no problem
[09:55] <croraf> Sorry I was afk a bit.
[09:57] <EriC^^> no worries
[10:03] <xbfrog> i'm having trouble understanding my drive list in lslbk. i know i have 3 drives but its breaking it up to 5 listings. How do i make sense of it?
[10:06] <giaco> EriC^^: thanks
[10:08] <xbfrog> thats ok, forget it i know who to ask, :)
[10:19] <EriC^^> giaco: no problem
[10:20] <EriC^^> xbfrog: feel free to pastebin 'lsblk' output
[10:21] <xbfrog> ok thanks
[10:22] <xbfrog> https://termbin.com/56z2x
[10:23] <xbfrog> i only have 3 drives but there are 7 entries
[10:24] <jpds> xbfrog: Yes, those are partitions within the drives
[10:25] <xbfrog> oh
[10:25] <wb9688> sda sdb sdc are drives, sda1 sda2 sdb1 sdc1 sdc2 sdc5 are partitions on those drives
[10:26] <xbfrog> ok i understand that
[10:26] <wb9688> Not sure how you count "7 entries" though
[10:26] <xbfrog> from not really knowing what i'm looking at
[10:27] <xbfrog> sda1 and 2 i  counted as 2
[10:27] <xbfrog> but now that i understand what you said
[10:27] <xbfrog> its only 3 drives with partitions
[10:28] <xbfrog> so is sdc 1/2/5 my drive in my usb dock?
[10:29] <xbfrog> i'm trying to know which drive is which
[10:29] <EriC^^> xbfrog: pastebin 'sudo parted -ls' it has more info like the device name etc
[10:30] <xbfrog> ok
[10:31] <xbfrog> thats it :)
[10:31] <EriC^^> :)
[10:32] <xbfrog> this is the only part so far that clonezilla confused me on, it wants a place to put the image
[10:32] <xbfrog> and i didnt know where to pick
[10:32] <EriC^^> you've already cloned and are installing now?
[10:33] <xbfrog> nope, didnt know where to put the disk image
[10:33] <jpds> xbfrog: The Ubuntu one?
[10:33] <xbfrog> both laptops are ubuntu
[10:34] <xbfrog> but the drive is out of the other one and in the dock presently
[10:34] <xbfrog> i want to place a disk image on this one than swap drives and then load it onto the new ssd
[10:36] <xbfrog> am i making it harder than it needs to be?
[10:37] <EriC^^> xbfrog: hmmm you could skip a step in between if you dont want to keep a backup image and will delete it after you transfer to the ssd
[10:37] <EriC^^> xbfrog: is the ssd bigger than the disk you're imaging or smaller?
[10:37] <xbfrog> right i dont need a backup image
[10:37] <xbfrog> bigger
[10:37] <xbfrog> old one 250gb new one 1tb
[10:38] <EriC^^> xbfrog: ah great, you dont really need clonezilla then, you could just sudo dd if=/dev/sdX of=/dev/sdY bs=4M status=progress
[10:38] <EriC^^> where sdx is old drive and sdy is the ssd
[10:39] <xbfrog> ok, only thing i read is where dd can be said to disk destroy, made me nervous
[10:39] <EriC^^> after the dd command is done, you need to run the command "sync" to make sure everything gets written and flushed out of the cache, then you fine tune the partitions/filesystems so you use more space where you want etc
[10:39] <EriC^^> xbfrog: if you don't know what you're doing or make a typo, yeah it can destroy disks easily
[10:40] <xbfrog> thats what the article said
[10:40] <xbfrog> and i dont totally know what i'm doing, thats why i wanted something as easy as possible
[10:40] <xbfrog> never cloned a disk before
[10:40] <EriC^^> xbfrog: no worries, i can help out if you'd ike
[10:40] <EriC^^> *like
[10:41] <xbfrog> sure that would be wonderful :)_
[10:42] <EriC^^> alright, cool :) boot up with both the old drive & ssd installed
[10:42] <EriC^^> then pastebin the output of 'sudo parted -ls'
[10:42] <xbfrog> ok little clarification
[10:43] <xbfrog> i'm no the second laptop that has the old hd attched by usb dock
[10:43] <xbfrog> its out of the computer it came from
[10:43] <EriC^^> no worries
[10:44] <xbfrog> i guess i jumped ahead of myself
[10:44] <EriC^^> xbfrog: all you need is to clone the disk completely, as for the bootloader, if it's a legacy mbr, then the bootloader will come along with the cloning, if it's a uefi install, you'd have to run a command to just add an entry for ubuntu in the uefi list
[10:45] <xbfrog> its legacy
[10:45] <xbfrog> its a sony vaio prolly 12 yrs old?
[10:45] <xbfrog> no efi then
[10:45] <EriC^^> alright cool, then you're pretty much set, all you have to do is set the disk first in the boot order and it would boot straight up
[10:46] <EriC^^> xbfrog: hmm, it'll show up in the parted -ls output fully what's the situation
[10:46] <EriC^^> but yeah it's probably legacy i guess
[10:47] <xbfrog> the model is vgn-aw190
[10:47] <xbfrog> still works great
[10:47] <xbfrog> just is slow so trying to upgrade
[10:47] <EriC^^> nice, when those came out i really wanted one :D
[10:48] <xbfrog> i know what you mean :)
[10:48] <xbfrog> almost a 19inch screen
[10:48] <EriC^^> damn xD
[10:48] <xbfrog> ya and came with blueray back then
[10:48] <EriC^^> pretty neat
[10:49] <xbfrog> it was for its day
[10:49] <xbfrog> i dont have blueray in this one
[10:49] <EriC^^> yeah, still impressive kinda today
[10:49] <xbfrog> ya i hear ya
[10:49] <xbfrog> it had alot of perks
[10:49] <EriC^^> i really liked the way they looked, as vain as that sounds :D
[10:50] <xbfrog> l still hear ya
[10:50] <xbfrog> me too
[10:50] <xbfrog> it came stock with 4 gb of memory can be upgraded to 8
[10:51] <xbfrog> 4 that many years ago was alot
[10:51] <xbfrog> but not now
[10:52] <EriC^^> yup, i dont remember them even being extraordinarily pricey too, like apple stuff, could be wrong though
[10:52] <xbfrog> it was nearly 2k
[10:52] <xbfrog> nineteen something
[10:52] <EriC^^> ah, pretty expensive, expected i guess
[10:52] <EriC^^> you get what you pay for
[10:53] <xbfrog> yes true
[10:53] <xbfrog> this one was pretty inexpensive less than 400
[10:53] <xbfrog> 8 gb ram
[10:54] <xbfrog> 17 inch
[10:54] <xbfrog> Hp
[10:54] <EriC^^> nice
[10:54] <xbfrog> i needed a dependable computer to pay bills with so i bought it
[10:54] <EriC^^> ah, i have an hp too, also was pretty cheap, i7 8gb 1080p screen $600
[10:54] <xbfrog> at the time i wasnt happy with win 10 on the viao
[10:55] <EriC^^> same here, i wanted an msi but i ended up getting this instead, the price was too good to pass i figured, plus i couldnt really afford the msi at the time
[10:55] <xbfrog> i bought the wife one cause it was cheaper than trying to build a desktop or tower
[10:55] <EriC^^> it's a good buy though, i like it, except that the keyboard cant be replaced easily and i keep spilling stuff on it
[10:55] <EriC^^> other than that it's pretty solid
[10:56] <xbfrog> kool
[10:56] <xbfrog> i have mine one level up from the bt keyboard helps not to spill stuff on it
[10:57] <EriC^^> ah, good thinking
[10:57] <EriC^^> did you plug the ssd and stuff?
[10:58] <xbfrog> i cant plug in the ssd if the old hd is in the slot
[10:58] <xbfrog> its one or the other
[10:58] <EriC^^> ah crap, so no way to have access to both disks at the same time?
[10:58] <xbfrog> thats why i was trying to clone
[10:58] <xbfrog> no
[10:59] <xbfrog> not unless
[10:59] <EriC^^> what about via ethernet?
[10:59] <xbfrog> i reinstall the old drive and boot it up then use the usb dock with that computer
[10:59] <xbfrog> ok, i'm not seeing what you mean?
[11:00] <EriC^^> xbfrog: like if you put the ssd in the laptop its going to end up in, boot a live usb on that, and hook up an ethernet cable to the current pc
[11:00] <xbfrog> ok now i get it
[11:01] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[11:01] <EriC^^> i think the speed would be limited to 40mb/s or something vs the usual 70-90mb/s, but ultimately you wouldnt have to copy/install twice
[11:01] <xbfrog> both are connected by wifi, so are you saying, i would need to use a network cable to do the job?
[11:02] <xbfrog> sounds ok to me
[11:02] <EriC^^> yeah wifi is slow, you could only hope for like 10mb/s at best
[11:02] <xbfrog> ok got ya
[11:02] <xbfrog> hum, your sparking a thought
[11:02] <xbfrog> tell me if you think this would work
[11:03] <xbfrog> ok mayb this is what your saying
[11:03] <EriC^^> alright, let me think it through, i think i've done it once before, but not sure if i was just making an image on another disk or writing straight to it, 1 sec
[11:03] <xbfrog> how would you connect the ethernet cable?
[11:04] <xbfrog> ok
[11:05] <EriC^^> you'd connect the ethernet from the current laptop with the old drive in dock to the laptop that has the ssd & a live usb booted on it
[11:06] <xbfrog> ic
[11:06] <EriC^^> i have an idea, it would work and actually do two birds with one stone kinda (about the later having to enlarge partitions and filesystems to 1tb and whatnot)
[11:06] <xbfrog> years ago that was adhoc
[11:06] <xbfrog> not the same?
[11:07] <xbfrog> but that was 486 systems, i dunno anything about whats needed if anything to connect 2 together
[11:07] <xbfrog> today
[11:08] <EriC^^> xbfrog: you connect the laptops via ethernet, then they can see eachother, in the ssd laptop live usb you install ssh and you prepare the ssd, partitions, filesystem, then you run sshfs so that you access the empty the root filesystem from old drive laptop, and you copy it all there, then you just run a command to install grub to the ssd
[11:08] <xbfrog> ok you make it sound easy :)
[11:08] <EriC^^> that way you dont have to copy the disk as-is, and then have to enlarge the partition and filesystem later
[11:08] <xbfrog> ok sounds great :)
[11:09] <EriC^^> xbfrog: alright, install the ssd in the other laptop, and boot an ubuntu live usb on it and report back
[11:10] <EriC^^> ill try connecting my laptop to the desktop via ethernet in this time so it's all smooth sailing
[11:10] <xbfrog> i have a boot cd with the clonezilla on it will that do?
[11:11] <EriC^^> hmm nope, you need an ubuntu live usb
[11:11] <xbfrog> ok ic
[11:12] <xbfrog> i have a 128 gb thumb drive thats very new will that work?
[11:12] <EriC^^> xbfrog: yup that'll work
[11:12] <xbfrog> ok
[11:12] <TacoCodedSalad> why do i get libqt5webengine5 : Depends: libqt5webengine-data (= 5.12.8+dfsg-0ubuntu1) but 5.12.8+dfsg-0ubuntu1.1 is to be installed
[11:13] <TacoCodedSalad> i did apt update but i still get it
[11:13] <EriC^^> TacoCodedSalad: probably a ppa is wanting to install the 1.1, try apt-cache policy libqt5webengine5 and see the list below of where it's getting it
[11:14] <TacoCodedSalad> libqt5webengine5:   Installed: (none)   Candidate: 5.12.8+dfsg-0ubuntu1   Version table:      5.12.8+dfsg-0ubuntu1 500         500 http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu focal/universe amd64 Packages
[11:15] <TacoCodedSalad> libqt5webengine-data:   Installed: 5.12.8+dfsg-0ubuntu1.1   Candidate: 5.12.8+dfsg-0ubuntu1.1   Version table:  *** 5.12.8+dfsg-0ubuntu1.1 100         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status      5.12.8+dfsg-0ubuntu1 500         500 http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu focal/universe amd64 Packages         500 http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu focal/universe i386 Packages
[11:15] <EriC^^> !paste | TacoCodedSalad
[11:15] <xbfrog> ok i'll install the ssd and get everything ready. we'll have to do the rest of this another time i imagine
[11:15] <xbfrog> but good ideas :) thanks
[11:16] <EriC^^> xbfrog: alright, no problem :)
[11:17] <xbfrog> you made this sound fun :)
[11:17] <EriC^^> hehe, it kinda is, new pc and all, will be good :D
[11:17] <EriC^^> !info libqt5webengine-data focal
[11:18] <Lutin> Does the php (fpm) packge create /var/www as well ?
[11:19] <EriC^^> xbfrog: if we manage to get the ball rolling on the transfer, you'd be pretty set cause once it's done you'd only have to run a few commands i could give you to reinstall grub and that's it
[11:19] <Lutin> ah no, docker workdir does :)
[11:20] <TacoCodedSalad> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/PgkXpzSZZk/
[11:21] <EriC^^> TacoCodedSalad: odd, the 1.1 is normal from the repos, and the engine5 one seems also from the repos
[11:21] <EriC^^> maybe it's some bug by the maintainers they'll soon fix or so?
[11:21] <EriC^^> TacoCodedSalad: what's the output of "apt-cache show libqt5webengine5"
[11:23] <TacoCodedSalad> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/rJB7dpzTzs/
[11:24] <EriC^^> TacoCodedSalad: i think it's a bug from the maintainers, it has the depends Depends: libqt5webengine-data (= 5.12.8+dfsg-0ubuntu1)   but the repo normal version currently is 1.1
[11:25] <TacoCodedSalad> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/8xZQ94PHNj/ this is my sources.list
[11:25] <TacoCodedSalad> EriC^^: i have that for a lot of packages
[11:25] <EriC^^> maybe file a bug or contact them so they know about the discrepancy and fix it
[11:25] <EriC^^> which packages?
[11:28] <TacoCodedSalad> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/8xZQ94PHNj/
[11:28] <TacoCodedSalad> for sudo apt-get install kde-full kde-standard kdepim akregator kmail knotes korganizer plasma-widgets-addons accountwizard akonadiconsole kalarm kdepim-runtime konsolekalendar kontact
[11:28] <EriC^^> TacoCodedSalad: maybe it's a fault with the au.archive repo? maybe switching to archive.ubuntu.com might fix it
[11:33] <EriC^^> TacoCodedSalad: in the au repo, i downloaded the Packages.gz, it's also there with the wrong depends list
[11:33] <EriC^^> let me try to see the archive.ubuntu.com one real quick
[11:35] <EriC^^> TacoCodedSalad: it's also wrong the archive.ubuntu.com one, contact them about it perhaps
[11:36] <TacoCodedSalad> :(
[11:36] <EriC^^> this is the packages list and deps http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/focal/universe/binary-amd64/Packages.gz , it lists ubuntu1 as the dep, but currently for focal ubuntu1.1 is the installed one by default repos
[11:38] <EriC^^> if you absolutely need it immediately you could manually modify the deps so it installs, but maybe it does need 1 to work and that could cause issues, who knows, just a last resort option
[11:39] <EriC^^> or if you can peacefully downgrade back to ubuntu1 without affecting other packages maybe
[11:40] <TacoCodedSalad> how
[11:40] <EriC^^> if you wanna try, do sudo apt-get -s remove libqt5webengine-data     it should show you which packages it would remove along, but only tell, it wont actually do anything (just a simulation/dry run)
[11:41] <EriC^^> TacoCodedSalad: try sudo apt-get -s remove libqt5webengine-data       and paste output
[11:43] <TacoCodedSalad> yay it worked
[11:43] <EriC^^> ?
[11:44] <TacoCodedSalad> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/BVnfQsS5qW/
[11:44] <EriC^^> hehe, you ran it without the -s didn't you :P
[11:45] <EriC^^> maybe they put back ubuntu1 as the candidate i guess? anyways good that they fixed it
[11:46] <TacoCodedSalad> ^~^
[11:46] <EriC^^> :D
[11:47] <TacoCodedSalad> wonder how i got 1.1 :/
[11:47] <EriC^^> even ubottu thinks 1.1 is the current
[11:47] <EriC^^> !info libqt5webengine-data focal
[11:49] <TacoCodedSalad> owo
[11:53] <xbfrog> i'm looking and the sony diagram/pictures of the hd replacement. i have installed the ssd with the required screws and "still" i have ONE extra screw. How is that possible?
[11:53] <xbfrog> this drives me nuts :/
[11:54] <xbfrog> ok, i guess one where ever it went gets left out
[11:54] <EriC^^> as long as it's held firmly and stuff you should be good i think
[11:54] <xbfrog> haha, ya i hear ys
[11:54] <xbfrog> ya
[11:54] <xbfrog> its just odd to end up with one extra screw
[11:55] <EriC^^> haha yeah
[11:55] <EriC^^> over here there's a running joke on body work shops/mechanics, when they fix your car they hand you a bag of screws/nuts "these were extras not needed"
[11:55] <EriC^^> xD
[11:55] <xbfrog> looking at sony's picutres they don't show anymore screws than i can count
[11:56] <xbfrog> haha
[11:56] <xbfrog> ya this is a first in a long time
[11:57] <xbfrog> i'd like to find out if a second hard drive could be installed
[11:57] <xbfrog> there is a bay for one just no connector in the bay
[11:58] <xbfrog> sony's pictures shows 2 installed
[11:58] <ledeni>  xbfrog: did you think about that ' that they put spare screw if someone lose it'
[11:58] <xbfrog> thats possible its been too many days since i took it apart i cant remember where it went
[11:59] <xbfrog> ok no big deal then
[12:01] <EriC^^> brb, will connect the laptop via ethernet
[12:14] <EriC^^> xbfrog: success, i was able to ssh between the 2 ubuntu pc's with the ethernet cable between them
[12:20] <xbfrog> nice
[12:21] <xbfrog> reading the clonezilla doc it says clonzilla needs a thumb drive with fat
[12:21] <xbfrog> just fat? or fat32
[12:21] <xbfrog> it didnt say
[12:22] <EriC^^> fat32, but why clonezilla? i thought we were going to do the ssh transfer thing?
[12:22] <xbfrog> ok lemme look agian it was boot someting
[12:23] <EriC^^> ok, i assure you the ssh thing will work if you're having 2nd thoughts etc
[12:23] <xbfrog> ah, tuxboot
[12:24] <EriC^^> what's the OS running on the laptop with the usb dock + old drive?
[12:24] <xbfrog> both laptops have ubuntu 20.04
[12:25] <EriC^^> ok, silly question but that's not the old drive that's running right?
[12:25] <xbfrog> no
[12:25] <xbfrog> let me clarify
[12:25] <EriC^^> ok, cool
[12:26] <xbfrog> the old drive that has ubuntu on it is back in the vaio
[12:26] <xbfrog> oh crud
[12:26] <xbfrog> not right
[12:26] <xbfrog> the ssd is in the vaio
[12:26] <xbfrog> the old drive with ubuntu is in the dock
[12:26] <EriC^^> no worries, that was the plan all along no?
[12:27] <xbfrog> yes
[12:27] <EriC^^> all good :D
[12:27] <xbfrog> ok great
[12:28] <EriC^^> boot up the live usb in the vaio, if you can get wifi on it temporarily that would be awesome to make things easier with setting it up for the transfer
[12:28] <EriC^^> that way you can run commands and have them pasted online easily
[12:28] <xbfrog> ok so how do i get wifi on the vaio?
[12:29] <xbfrog> o ic
[12:29] <xbfrog> no i dont, the wifi in in the old drive
[12:29] <EriC^^> isnt there a wifi adapter in the sony?
[12:29] <xbfrog> if i boot the vaio it only has clonezilla
[12:30] <xbfrog> yes
[12:30] <xbfrog> doesnt it need software to run it?
[12:30] <EriC^^> you got to make a live ubuntu usb and boot it up there
[12:30] <xbfrog> ok thats what i'm doing now
[12:30] <EriC^^> alright, let me know when it's up and running
[12:30] <xbfrog> ok
[12:33] <xbfrog> ok question: can i make a bootable usb drive on the hp and then use it on the vaio?
[12:33] <EriC^^> yup
[12:33] <xbfrog> ok good
[12:34] <croraf> Hi. Anyone can help me about debugging the issue I have. So, after the recent update (kernel and some firmware) parts of my Gnome stop working (or the entire Gnome - not sure).
[12:34] <croraf> This happens sometimes when I try to use the Screenshot application.
[12:35] <croraf> First of all I'd have to confirm that entire gnome is down.
[12:35] <croraf> I cannot click on the top desktop bar. On the left favorite applications bar
[12:36] <croraf> The applications themselves work, I cannot use the application top bar (close/minimize, move etc)
[12:37] <croraf> alt-tab works and keyboard shortcuts work.
[12:38] <Gh0sta> Hello everyone
[12:38] <Gh0sta> I have just moved to Ubuntu from Windows 10
[12:39] <Gh0sta> I am on 20.04
[12:40] <Gh0sta> what steps should I take to secure myself
[12:40] <xbfrog> what kind of secure are you looking for?
[12:41] <Gh0sta> like, do I have to install an antivirus or something?
[12:41] <xbfrog> nope
[12:41] <Gh0sta> cool
[12:41] <Gh0sta> I do have a problem though with my graphics
[12:41] <EriC^^> Gh0sta: usually no, unless you plan on transferring stuff to windows pc from ubuntu
[12:41] <xbfrog> not unless you have windows installed with ubuntu
[12:42] <xbfrog> and then only to keep from sending virus thru emails
[12:42] <Gh0sta> xbfrog I have two different hard drives with each OS on it
[12:42] <Gh0sta> EriC^^ which stuff should I avoid to transfer?
[12:42] <xbfrog> the antivirus on windows should be enough
[12:43] <EriC^^> yeah, Gh0sta just dont download windows programs/executables stuff like that on ubuntu and transfer, but in any case if you have an updated windows antivirus it should protect you from running them
[12:43] <EriC^^> transferring music/pictures stuff like that is fine
[12:43] <Gh0sta> cool
[12:43] <Gh0sta> I won't bring any exe
[12:44] <Gh0sta> for my graphics, I am bit confused
[12:44] <Gh0sta> on the login screen the fonts are tiny
[12:45] <Gh0sta> on every login I have to go to display settings to change the scale to 200% and back to 100% to get things right
[12:45] <xbfrog> do you have a need to login?
[12:45] <Gh0sta> not really no
[12:45] <Gh0sta> I am the only one using the PC
[12:46] <xbfrog> yes me too
[12:46] <xbfrog> so i disabled the login screen
[12:46] <Gh0sta> one sec
[12:46] <xbfrog> its in your settings
[12:46] <Gh0sta> let me do it
[12:47] <Gh0sta> Shall I just remove the user?
[12:47] <EriC^^> no
[12:47] <Gh0sta> hmm
[12:47] <EriC^^> Gh0sta: set the autologin to on
[12:48] <xbfrog> yeah thats it
[12:48] <Gh0sta> That button is greyed out
[12:48] <Gh0sta> :/
[12:48] <EriC^^> Gh0sta: click on unlock at the top right
[12:48] <xbfrog> yes do that
[12:48] <xbfrog> unlock
[12:48] <Gh0sta> lol
[12:48] <Gh0sta> done!
[12:48] <Gh0sta> blimey!
[12:48] <EriC^^> :D
[12:48] <Gh0sta> I feel silly now :D
[12:49] <xbfrog> sok, we've all been there
[12:49] <EriC^^> yup
[12:49] <Gh0sta> so shall I try to log back in
[12:49] <Gh0sta> ?
[12:49] <Gh0sta> to see if the graphic problem is gone?
[12:49] <EriC^^> Gh0sta: yeah reboot the pc see how it goes
[12:49] <Gh0sta> I mean the resolution
[12:50] <Gh0sta> okie doke
[12:50] <Gh0sta> brb
[12:50] <EriC^^> ok
[12:50] <xbfrog> reboot not log off
[12:50] <Gh0sta> oh ok! :)
[12:50] <Gh0sta> brb
[12:50] <jescis> Anyone know how to stop a web browser from asking to create a password keyring?
[12:52] <jescis> or should I ask in another channel?
[12:52] <maxcell_> Guys, anyone knows how to configure 2 different soundcards in pulseaudio? I want one to work with 24bits/96000hz and another 16/48000
[12:53] <xbfrog> sounds like a conflict and a crash ready to happen :(
[12:54] <Gh0sta> :(  everything is so tiny
[12:54] <Gh0sta> that didn't help
[12:54] <xbfrog> on your desktop?
[12:54] <Gh0sta> everywhere
[12:54] <Gh0sta> even I can't read the time on top
[12:54] <maxcell_> sounds like you need to increase DPI
[12:54] <Gh0sta> hmm?
[12:54] <xbfrog> yes
[12:54] <maxcell_> are you using gnome?
[12:55] <Gh0sta> maxcell_ correct
[12:55] <EriC^^> Gh0sta: try 'xrandr -q | nc termbin.com 9999'   in a terminal and paste the link it gives you
[12:56] <xbfrog> eric^^cant download tuxboot
[12:56] <EriC^^> maxcell_: he said earlier that he has to set the scale to 200% then back to 100% and it works well, fwiw
[12:57] <Gh0sta> EriC^^ https://termbin.com/89al
[12:57] <EriC^^> xbfrog: try to download the ubuntu live iso http://releases.ubuntu.com/focal/ubuntu-20.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso
[12:57] <maxcell_> @EriC^^, oh, thats messy
[12:57] <maxcell_> no idea what's going on then
[12:57] <xbfrog> i have and made a disk
[12:58] <xbfrog> thats what i started with
[12:58] <xbfrog> but for the usb drive you said make it wants me to download tuxboot
[12:59] <EriC^^> Gh0sta: currently the fonts are good?
[12:59] <EriC^^> and icons sizes and everything?
[12:59] <Gh0sta> EriC^^ yeah that is correct
[12:59] <justabeginner> hello wonder people who are out there to help out.
[13:00] <EriC^^> xbfrog: you dont need tuxboot, you can use 'dd' to make the live usb
[13:00] <EriC^^> xbfrog: is the iso file on the current laptop?
[13:00] <xbfrog> ok then i didnt understand
[13:00] <justabeginner> I am coming from Debian, reason to opt for Ubuntu is my recent machine Lenovo Ideapad flex 5 AMD Ryzen 4500 is not supported well with Debian in term of hardware
[13:00] <EriC^^> Gh0sta: type 'sudo ubuntu-drivers devices | nc termbin.com 9999'
[13:01] <EriC^^> it should list the card and recommended driver
[13:01] <Gh0sta> EriC^^ ok cool
[13:01] <Gh0sta> thanks, let me try
[13:01] <xbfrog> i have no ideahow to use dd you said earlier but it all looked like greek to me
[13:02] <justabeginner> I tried Ubuntu grovery version and upgrade kernel 5.9 and found a few things not working. so here I am with Ubuntu LTS and upgrade Linux 5.8 which support brightness control of laptop
[13:02] <EriC^^> xbfrog: no worries, where is the ubuntu iso file? on the current laptop?
[13:02] <xbfrog> yes
[13:03] <justabeginner> touchscreen, wifi gpu works out of box with Ubuntu LTS. With upgrade to kernel 5.8, brightness control works.
[13:03] <EriC^^> xbfrog: ok, plug in the usb that you're going to be using as the live usb and type "sudo parted -ls | nc termbin.com 9999"
[13:03] <EriC^^> Gh0sta: any link?
[13:03] <justabeginner> I am seeking help to get trackpad to work and a few minor issues
[13:03] <Gh0sta> EriC^^  some reason, it is not showing the link
[13:03] <Gh0sta> :/
[13:03] <Gh0sta> I am trying again
[13:03] <maxcell_> how should i configure pulseaudio when using 2 different soundcards?
[13:04] <Gh0sta> EriC^^ there we go https://termbin.com/s8ua0
[13:05] <xbfrog> nothing, just a retrun prompt
[13:06] <EriC^^> xbfrog: hmm, maybe the site is having some issues, try again?
[13:06] <xbfrog> ok
[13:06] <justabeginner> out of curiousity, why X11 display server is default on LTS not wayland ?
[13:06] <xbfrog> ok that did it
[13:07] <xbfrog> https://termbin.com/susi
[13:07] <EriC^^> Gh0sta: aha, what about, "lshw -c video | nc termbin.com 9999"
[13:07] <Gh0sta> let's have a look
[13:08] <EriC^^> Gh0sta: if you dont want to change the drivers and maybe get into more issues, i figure you can automate that scale thing process, so that every time you login it automatically sets to 200% then back 100% quickly, as a workaround for the bug i guess
[13:08] <Gh0sta> EriC^^ https://termbin.com/it3a
[13:09] <EriC^^> you probably wouldn't even notice it happen
[13:09] <Gh0sta> EriC^^ oh cool
[13:09] <Gh0sta> so this is definitely a bug?
[13:10] <Gh0sta> EriC^^ would you be kind enough to put me in the right direction for the automation?
[13:10] <EriC^^> sure
[13:10] <Gh0sta> Thank you :)
[13:11] <EriC^^> try typing in a terminal "xrandr --output HDMI-0 --mode 1920x1080 --scale 2x2"
[13:11] <EriC^^> does that change the scaling to 200% ?
[13:11] <Gh0sta> one sec
[13:12] <EriC^^> xbfrog: is the 126gb SanDisk Cruzer Blade the usb for the live usb?
[13:12] <Gh0sta> yes
[13:12] <Gh0sta> I mean no
[13:12] <Gh0sta> everything is way smaller now
[13:12] <EriC^^> oh
[13:13] <EriC^^> try "xrandr --output HDMI-0 --mode 1920x1080 --scale 1x1"
[13:13] <Gh0sta> ok
[13:13] <Gh0sta> nothing happened?
[13:13] <Gh0sta> probably because I did the 200% and then gone back to 100%  manually?
[13:14] <Gh0sta> so at least I can read whats on the screen :')
[13:15] <EriC^^> :D
[13:16] <EriC^^> Gh0sta: ok, let's give it a shot
[13:16] <Gh0sta> Cool, I am ready for it
[13:16] <EriC^^> Gh0sta: type "nano ~/.xrandr.sh"
[13:17] <Gh0sta> Is there a chance to go back if I mess anything up? :D
[13:17] <Gh0sta> EriC^^ yeah I am in the editor now
[13:18] <EriC^^> Gh0sta: yeah we'll incrementally test stuff, no worries
[13:18] <Gh0sta> Pheww!! :)  ok
[13:18] <EriC^^> Gh0sta: paste these in it https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/WwQwMw9h6s/
[13:19] <maxcell_> Hey, if i disable pulseaudio completely i will be able to use both cards 16bits/48khz and 24bits/96khz as they are (without resampling) without problems? Or we have per-device configuration on pulseaudio already?
[13:19] <EriC^^> Gh0sta: to paste in nano (or the terminal in general) press ctrl+shift+v
[13:19] <Gh0sta> EriC^^ done
[13:20] <EriC^^> Gh0sta: ok, save & exit with ctrl+x, then type in the terminal "chmod +x ~/.xrandr.sh"
[13:20] <Gh0sta> I have saved it
[13:20] <Gh0sta> chmod done
[13:21] <EriC^^> Gh0sta: ok, try typing "~/.xrandr.sh"
[13:21] <EriC^^> it should change the scaling, wait for 1 second, then change it back
[13:21] <Gh0sta> Oh something happened
[13:21] <Gh0sta> resolution changed couple of times
[13:21] <Gh0sta> and I am back to normal :D
[13:21] <EriC^^> ok, great
[13:23] <EriC^^> Gh0sta: actually, type "sed -i 's/2x2/0.5x0.5/' ~/.xrandr.sh"
[13:23] <Gh0sta> ok
[13:23] <Gh0sta> done
[13:23] <EriC^^> that should make it go to 200%, in case it matters somehow
[13:24] <EriC^^> Gh0sta: ok, give it another go, "~/.xrandr.sh"
[13:24] <Gh0sta> ok
[13:24] <EriC^^> xbfrog: still there?
[13:25] <xbfrog> yep just waiting :)
[13:25] <EriC^^> xbfrog: ah i think you missed my question earlier, is the 126gb sandisk Cruzer Blade the usb you want to make into a live usb?
[13:26] <xbfrog> yes
[13:26] <EriC^^> Gh0sta: all good or ?
[13:26] <xbfrog> i must have
[13:26] <xbfrog> and yes thats the drive
[13:27] <EriC^^> xbfrog: alright, type "sudo dd if=/path/to/ubuntu/iso of=/dev/sdc bs=4M && sync"
[13:28] <xbfrog> dd: failed to open '/path/to/ubuntu/iso': No such file or directory
[13:30] <EriC^^> xbfrog: you have to replace that with the location of the iso
[13:30] <xbfrog> oh sorry
[13:30] <EriC^^> no worries
[13:31] <xbfrog> do i start the path with /home? its in the downloads folder
[13:31] <EriC^^> yup
[13:31] <EriC^^> /home/user/Downloads
[13:31] <xbfrog> ok
[13:31] <xbfrog> got it
[13:32] <mindofmateo> is there a way to remap alt_r and backspace with setxkbmap?
[13:37] <xbfrog> do i specify the exact file name.iso or just downloads?
[13:37] <EriC^^> xbfrog: exact filename.iso
[13:37] <xbfrog> ok i musta typed somethign wrong it didnt work
[13:38] <EriC^^> xbfrog: what'd it say?
[13:38] <xbfrog> dd: failed to open '/home/Downloads/clonezilla-live-20200703-focal-amd64.iso': No such file or directory
[13:39] <xbfrog> ok must be the apostrophe at the beginning?
[13:39] <xbfrog> no that isnt it
[13:40] <Gh0sta> phewww!!!
[13:40] <Gh0sta> finally got back up
[13:40] <EriC^^> xbfrog: ah, there should be the /home/<user> before Downloads, but i dunno if that clonezilla iso would work, it's like an ubuntu live usb? you can install ssh to it for instance etc?
[13:40] <EriC^^> Gh0sta: yikes, wb
[13:40] <Gh0sta> the whole computer got frozen
[13:40] <xbfrog> oh
[13:40] <Gh0sta> have to restart it couple of times
[13:40] <Gh0sta> :D
[13:40] <EriC^^> :D
[13:41] <EriC^^> Gh0sta: i guess 2x2 it is! try typing 'nano ~/.xrandr.sh' and change back the 0.5x0.5 to 2x2
[13:41] <Gh0sta> ok
[13:41] <Gh0sta> done
[13:42] <EriC^^> Gh0sta: ok, try last time to be sure before adding, "~/.xrandr.sh" all good no problems?
[13:42] <Gh0sta> Still here after it!
[13:42] <EriC^^> ok, great :D
[13:43] <Gh0sta> :)
[13:43] <Gh0sta> seems to do the trick
[13:43] <xbfrog> i keep forgetting that files doesnt display the same way as this computer
[13:43] <xbfrog> it copied
[13:43] <EriC^^> Gh0sta: open the dash and search for "startup applications"
[13:43] <Gh0sta> Yeah got it
[13:44] <EriC^^> xbfrog: ok, try booting the live usb on the sony vaio
[13:44] <EriC^^> Gh0sta: alright, click on "add"
[13:44] <justabeginner> is kernel 5.7 is table with Ubuntu LTS ?
[13:44] <Gh0sta> EriC^^ done!
[13:44] <xbfrog> ok do i need to change the bios boot order or no?
[13:45] <Gh0sta> EriC^^  have also found something called im-launch? any idea what it is
[13:45] <EriC^^> Gh0sta: for the command type in "/home/<your username here>/.xrandr.sh"
[13:45] <EriC^^> xbfrog: yeah you might need to, it might already be set to boot usbs though
[13:46] <xbfrog> ok lets give it a shot
[13:46] <Gh0sta> EriC^^ done
[13:46] <Gh0sta> reboot?
[13:46] <EriC^^> Gh0sta: the im-launch seems standard
[13:47] <Gh0sta> oh ok
[13:47] <Gh0sta> thanks
[13:47] <EriC^^> Gh0sta: yeah try to reboot
[13:47] <Gh0sta> brb after reboot
[13:51] <Gh0sta> EriC^^ hmm might have to try something else :')
[13:51] <EriC^^> alright, was worth a shot :D
[13:51] <Gh0sta> the top bar and right click menu is tiny
[13:51] <Gh0sta> EriC^^ absolutely
[13:53] <EriC^^> Gh0sta: i wonder what happens if you set the fractional scaling option to "off" completely
[13:53] <Gh0sta> EriC^^ oh that is off since the beginning
[13:53] <EriC^^> oh
[13:53] <jescis> Anyone tell me if uninstalling Seahorse was a good idea, or should I've just turned off it's permissions or something?
[13:54] <EriC^^> Gh0sta: this might sound silly, but was it on at any time and set to 100% and it also did the bug?
[13:55] <Gh0sta> EriC^^ the button was off all the time but I think it was set as 100%
[13:56] <Gh0sta> Shall I try to turn it on and set the resolution to 125%
[13:57] <Gh0sta> see what happens?
[13:57] <EriC^^> Gh0sta: let me try to find if there's a command that's for that scaling stuff, maybe the xrandr scaling is just a different thing
[13:57] <Gh0sta> perhaps
[13:57] <EriC^^> Gh0sta: yeah perhaps try it with On and 125% or 100% just to see how it goes, who knows
[13:57] <Gh0sta> ok
[13:57] <Gh0sta> brb
[13:57] <EriC^^> ok
[13:58] <zeon123> hi i have gtx 1070 which gets detected at boot time but doesnt reach the gui. ( kubuntu 20.04 ) since i already had ssh running i am able to pull some details.  so in dmesg it will detect it but after booting it disappears when trying lspci and lshw. i tried a live usb and it boots normally .
[13:59] <zeon123> do i paste the log in pastebin ? its been quite a while i since i used irctv
[13:59] <zeon123> *irc
[14:01] <Gh0sta> yaay!
[14:01] <Gh0sta> that has worked absolutely fine
[14:01] <Gh0sta> EriC^^ Thanks for your help
[14:01] <zeon123> i tried the nouveau driver as well as the nvidia-driver-440 from repo .  when using noveau it will show in dmesg that it picks up the gpu but then nothing . nvidia driver doesnt say much.
[14:02] <Gh0sta> Scaling on and set to 125%
[14:03] <zeon123> using 5.x kernel
[14:03] <EriC^^> Gh0sta: great!
[14:04] <EriC^^> Gh0sta: no problem, it might also work with 100% fwiw
[14:04] <urth> Somehow keypad:pointerkeys is enabled on my system and I cannot disable it with the shift+numlock shortcut. Any ideas where I should look to disable it ?
[14:04] <EriC^^> Gh0sta: also dont forget to remove the thing we added in startup applications :)
[14:05] <Gh0sta> EriC^^ I think I will leave it as this, because on a 50 inch telly I can read the text easily this way :D
[14:05] <EriC^^> ah ok, great :D
[14:05] <Gh0sta> EriC^^ that I did already
[14:05] <EriC^^> ok, good :)
[14:05] <Gh0sta> EriC^^ there was something else we did? do I have to undo it?
[14:05] <xbfrog> i had to enable both external device and enable external boot
[14:05] <xbfrog> clonezilla is up
[14:06] <EriC^^> Gh0sta: not really, you could "rm -i ~/.xrandr.sh" if you want since you wont be needing it
[14:06] <Gh0sta> EriC^^ great! done
[14:06] <croraf> Can I restart Gnome without closing my apps?
[14:07] <Gh0sta> EriC^^ one quick question, what will be the safest way to try and play with the different apps in a secure way?
[14:07] <xbfrog> gotta change something first my usb drive is on the wrong side now my dock wont reach, heh, be back :)
[14:07] <Gh0sta> like on windows you can use Sandbox for it
[14:08] <EriC^^> xbfrog: alright, are you able to install ssh in the clonezilla live usb? sudo apt-get install ssh
[14:08] <EriC^^> Gh0sta: if you stick with the ubuntu repo everything is pretty safe there, otherwise, you really have to trust the maintainer of a ppa or snap
[14:09] <EriC^^> Gh0sta: if you havent enabled already, you can enable the universe repo and multiverse repo for more packages
[14:09] <Gh0sta> EriC^^ I will stick to the official repo than :|
[14:09] <Gh0sta> is it worth getting extensions?
[14:10] <Lutin> is /etc/nginx/sites-available/default created during install or on first start of nginx ?
[14:10] <Gh0sta> EriC^^  Gnome Shell Extensions
[14:11] <EriC^^> Gh0sta: stuff for the desktop? i havent really tried any tbh, i just have 'psensor' installed and 'alarm-clock-applet' pretty useful stuff
[14:11] <Gh0sta> ah great!
[14:11] <EriC^^> Gh0sta: no idea, sorry, im still on 16.04 with unity here, moving soon to 20.04 hopefully :D
[14:11] <Gh0sta> Excellent!
[14:11] <Gh0sta> EriC^^ just out of interest, what's stopping you to migrate?
[14:13] <EriC^^> hmm well initially they dropped support for unity after 16.04, so i never switched to 18.04 when it came out, and time just passed, eventually i'll have to take the plunge though, but it seems 20.04 has a decent unity desktop afterall even if they dropped it a little
[14:14] <Gh0sta> oh ok! I would say 20.04 is great so far
[14:14] <EriC^^> yeah it seems so, cant wait to install it soon
[14:14] <xbfrog> i like it alot
[14:15] <Gh0sta> wish there was a better option for thunderbird
[14:15] <Gh0sta> UI is really really poor
[14:15] <Gh0sta> :(
[14:16] <xbfrog> ok now clonezilla is asking do i want device-image work with disks or partitions using images
[14:17] <xbfrog> or something else?
[14:18] <EriC^^> xbfrog: try 'with disks'
[14:19] <EriC^^> in the end we need to have a root shell, and you can install ssh and have some sort of network manager running
[14:19] <xbfrog> ok
[14:23] <zeon123> i am basically in this situation except it is pc
[14:23] <zeon123> https://askubuntu.com/questions/1251350/gpu-disappeard-from-hardware-device-list
[14:24] <Gh0sta> EriC^^ on the 'Ubuntu Software' app I can't seems to find any addons section etc?
[14:25] <Gh0sta> do I have to do something different to see the list of all addons?
[14:26] <maxcell_> how do i completely disable pulseaudio?
[14:27] <xbfrog> clonezilla: now we need to mounta device as /home/part imag (clonezilla image(s) repository) so we can read or save the image in /home/part img. which drive do i pick the ssd or the old drive?
[14:27] <maxcell_> vim.tiny /etc/pulse/pulse.conf autospawn=no ; that's all i have to do to completely disable pulseaudio forever?
[14:30] <EriC^^> Gh0sta: i dont think so, maybe under 'utilities' there should be a few
[14:30] <EriC^^> brb
[14:30] <Gh0sta> tyt
[14:32] <EriC^^> xbfrog: is there any 'shell mode' option available?
[14:33] <EriC^^> xbfrog: or maybe pressing "ctrl+alt+f2" might bring it up?
[14:33] <xbfrog> ya a couple screens back
[14:33] <xbfrog> mayb just one screen
[14:33] <xbfrog> you want that
[14:33] <xbfrog> ok lemme see what i can do
[14:36] <Gh0sta> is it worth and safe to keep the LivePatch on?
[14:37] <xbfrog> i entered shell and now at line prompt
[14:39] <EriC^^> xbfrog: ah great, type 'sudo service ssh start'
[14:41] <xbfrog> ok return prompt
[14:44] <EriC^^> Gh0sta: it should be safe to use, it's not very worth it on a desktop though, might be more convenient i guess
[14:45] <EriC^^> xbfrog: ok, plug in the ethernet cable into the laptop with the dock and the vaio
[14:45] <xbfrog> ok
[14:50] <EriC^^> xbfrog: all good?
[14:54] <Gh0sta> EriC^^ ok got it
[15:04] <xbfrog> the viao ethernet port was hiding, inever used it
[15:04] <xbfrog> connected now
[15:07] <xbfrog> i had to find the sony manual online to find the port :P
[15:11] <xbfrog> EriC^^ you still here?
[15:17] <EriC^^> xbfrog: i got d/c
[15:18] <EriC^^> xbfrog: ok, type in the shell "ifconfig -a" it should list the ethernet there see if it says anything like 'inet addr:..........." and get the name of the ethernet such as enp2s0
[15:18] <xbfrog> ok
[15:21] <xbfrog> no it doesnt say inet address anything
[15:21] <xbfrog> but onle line says inet lemme get the rest
[15:23] <xbfrog> its under lo: flags=73 <up
[15:23] <xbfrog> its 127.0.0.1
[15:25] <xbfrog> no i dont see anything like that
[15:30] <xbfrog> it doesnt seem to have activated ethernet
[15:30] <xbfrog> well crum
[15:33] <xbfrog> came so far to get stopped here :P
[15:34] <xbfrog> ok i guess were done for today right?
[15:35] <EriC^^> xbfrog: yeah, if you want download the ubuntu live iso, from there it should be pretty easy to setup the ethernet and ssh
[15:36] <EriC^^> here's the iso https://releases.ubuntu.com/focal/ubuntu-20.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso
[15:36] <xbfrog> i i have the iso burned to disk but not sure i could setup ssh
[15:37] <xbfrog> i'll have to wait for more help i dunno what to do next
[15:42] <EriC^^> xbfrog: burn the iso and boot it up, and report back
[15:43] <xbfrog> ok
[15:45] <xbfrog> clonezilla has boot from the cd
[15:48] <xbfrog> ok im back to start clonezilla or enter shell
[15:48] <xbfrog> from the cd
[15:56] <EriC^^> xbfrog: you have to download an ubuntu iso and burn it using dd to the usb
[15:57] <EriC^^> xbfrog: it would be far easier that way
[16:01] <xbfrog> ok i feel confused, i burnt the iso to both dvd and you gave me the instructions to put clownzilla on the usb, so what am i missing? i dont know dd or ssh so without help i'm stopped
[16:03] <xbfrog> ok, later then, your probably tired of this anyway :)
[16:03] <xbfrog> thanks for the help
[16:03] <ThinkT510> xbfrog: you can dd the iso to usb: "sudo dd if=nameof.iso of=/dev/sdX" make sure sdX corresponds to the correct drive
[16:03] <xbfrog> ok i think i understand that
[16:05] <xbfrog> so exchange "name of iso for the real name, and dev/sdX so the corresponding drive?
[16:05] <xbfrog> so-to
[16:05] <ThinkT510> xbfrog: yes, as long as the terminal is in the same path as the iso file
[16:05] <xbfrog> that i dont understand
[16:06] <xbfrog> ok like
[16:06] <ThinkT510> xbfrog: you you open a terminal is defaults to /home/username
[16:06] <xbfrog> change directory to /home?
[16:06] <xbfrog> right
[16:06] <xbfrog> ok got it now
[16:07] <ThinkT510> xbfrog: when you download a file it will typically go to /home/username/Downloads/
[16:07] <xbfrog> yes i see that
[16:07] <xbfrog> its just my file system doesnt show it that way so i forget its there
[16:08] <ThinkT510> if you'd rather be absolutely sure you can just use the full path regardless of where you are in the terminal
[16:08] <xbfrog> unless i click on other locations, this computer and home then /user shows
[16:09] <xbfrog> which i rarely use
[16:09] <ThinkT510> eg: if sdc is your usb stick then: "sudo dd if=/home/username/Downloads/file.iso of=/dev/sdc status=progress"
[16:09] <EriC^> xbfrog: nah i never said to use clonezilla, i was trying to get you to use an ubuntu live usb and posted the link to the iso several times, i dunno why you keep bringing up clonezilla to this xD
[16:10] <xbfrog> ok thats what i didnt see then
[16:10] <edoneerf> bs=8M or something could be a good idea too
[16:10] <EriC^> i thought since you already made it and booted it maybe it would work, but i'd really rather you use the ubuntu live usb cause it's a sure thing and far easier
[16:10] <Gh0sta> why all drive starts with /dev/sd**
[16:10] <xbfrog> ok now i get it
[16:11] <xbfrog> i was confusing the 2
[16:11] <EriC^> xbfrog: all good, did you download the ubuntu official iso?
[16:11] <EriC^> no worries, i see now the misunderstanding
[16:11] <ThinkT510> Gh0sta: just a naming convention. it used to be hd years ago. sd probably means sata disk
[16:11] <xbfrog> not yet, now that i know what you mean
[16:11] <Gh0sta> ahh got it! and what about the dev before it?
[16:12] <TacoCodedSalad> oop found more plasma-discover-backend-snap-dbgsym : Depends: plasma-discover-backend-snap (= 5.18.5-0ubuntu0.1) but 5.18.4.1-0ubuntu1 is to be installed
[16:12] <ThinkT510> Gh0sta: /dev/ is the directory where your device files are generated
[16:12] <Gh0sta> ThinkT510 thanks!
[16:13] <EriC^> brb need to reboot real quick
[16:13] <ThinkT510> !hier | Gh0sta
[16:13] <Gh0sta> whilst I was installing the Ubuntu, I have to make 3 separate partitions? one mounting as / and other as /swap and third as /mydrive
[16:14] <Gh0sta> ThinkT510 thanks for the link :)
[16:14] <oerheks>   Gh0sta no, ubuntu installs standard in one partition, with a swap-file
[16:15] <xbfrog> i have the dvd i orignally downloaded ubuntu live cd and burned it to disk
[16:15] <Gh0sta> oerheks partition ? really!
[16:15] <Gh0sta> one*
[16:15] <ThinkT510> Gh0sta: / is the root partition (where everything stems from). /swap would be a swap partition (but ubuntu now uses a swapfile instead by default)
[16:15] <Gh0sta> ThinkT510 so the 2gb I allocated for /swap will never be used :$
[16:16] <Gh0sta> ?
[16:16] <ThinkT510> Gh0sta: if it is mounted it will be used
[16:16] <Gh0sta> ahh ok
[16:17] <EriC^^> back
[16:17] <Gh0sta> wb
[16:18] <EriC^^> thanks
[16:18] <ThinkT510> xbfrog: you can boot from that ubuntu DVD if you don't fancy dd-ing the iso to a usb
[16:19] <xbfrog> its booting now
[16:19] <Gh0sta> What would be useful to learn in linux, If I want to be the sysops?
[16:19] <Gh0sta> I mean sysadmin
[16:20] <legreffier> Gh0sta: that's a vast domain. you'll meet more of those on ubuntu-offtopic :)
[16:21] <Gh0sta> legreffier thank you I will join there as well
[16:21] <Gh0sta> I will keep my questions related to Ubuntu :D
[16:22] <xbfrog> its checking the file system on drive 0
[16:22] <EriC^^> Gh0sta: there's some nice guides you could start out with here https://tldp.org/guides.html  i'd read the LAME guide and the gnu commands summary book
[16:22] <Gh0sta> EriC^^ Brilliant, let me have a look. thanks
[16:22] <EriC^^> xbfrog: you could press ctrl+c to bypass
[16:22] <xbfrog> ok
[16:22] <EriC^^> Gh0sta: no problem, enjoy :D
[16:23] <xbfrog> ok done
[16:23] <xbfrog> it didnt cancel, its still checking
[16:24] <xbfrog> ok, mayb it did just took a min.
[16:25] <justabeginner> anybody aware of better on screen keyboard with Ctl, Atl button too ?
[16:26] <xbfrog> is that for a tablet?
[16:27] <xbfrog> or do you have a touch screen monitor?
[16:29] <EriC^^> xbfrog: alright, plug in the ethernet cable on both the vaio and the main laptop + dock
[16:29] <justabeginner> its for 2in1 laptop xbfrog
[16:29] <xbfrog> the dock pluged into the Hp not vaio right
[16:29] <EriC^^> yeah
[16:30] <EriC^^> xbfrog: actually, if you can plug in the dock into the vaio, that'd make it even easier, since you can copy over the usb the contents of the old drive
[16:30] <justabeginner> what I get on onscreen keyboard is simple keys, looking for alt,ctl etc like you find Anywhere keyboard for Android
[16:31] <xbfrog> ok
[16:31] <EriC^^> is it possible to connect the old drive/dock to the vaio with ssd in it?
[16:31] <xbfrog> i'll do that
[16:31] <xbfrog> yes
[16:31] <EriC^^> ah great!
[16:31] <xbfrog> gimme a min
[16:31] <EriC^^> oki
[16:33]  * xbfrog gives EriC^^ the 3finger salute
[16:33] <xbfrog> all pluged and ready to go
[16:35] <xbfrog> ubuntu live loaded check
[16:35] <xbfrog> ethernet cable connected
[16:35] <xbfrog> usb doc connected
[16:36] <EriC^^> ok great :D
[16:36] <xbfrog> it sees the usb dock
[16:37] <EriC^^> xbfrog: ok, remove the ethernet since we dont need it, and connect to the wifi router as usual from the top network icon
[16:37] <xbfrog> ok gimme a min or 2
[16:38] <EriC^^> tyt
[16:41] <xbfrog> it says wifi is connected
[16:42] <EriC^^> xbfrog: ok, great, type "sudo parted -ls | nc termbin.com 9999"
[16:42] <EriC^^> paste the link it gives you here
[16:43] <xbfrog> um, type that sudo parted on the hp? or vaio?
[16:43] <EriC^^> on the vaio
[16:43] <xbfrog> ok
[16:43] <EriC^^> everything we do now will be on it
[16:44] <xbfrog> ok got it
[16:45] <EriC^^> if you want just type "xyz" to make it easier to copy the links it gives back
[16:45] <cybercrypto> Hi there, It appears that ubuntu defined 'snap store' as the default repository. Erlier versions users could choose from apt or snap, easily from Store-GUI-interface. Thats is not an option anymore? Why Ubuntu took that path? Where can I find details on the decision?
[16:46] <oerheks> cybercrypto, snaps are great, see the releasenotes https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FocalFossa/ReleaseNotes#Snap_Store
[16:49] <cybercrypto> oerheks: thanks, dont get me wrong. I dont want to 'discuss' if it is great ot not, everything has pros/conns. I just want to check history discussions and reasons for the decision, if they exist. So far, most desktops are rolled back to previous version (and some are moved to debian 10.5 still)
[16:50] <xbfrog> https://termbin.com/mbzp
[16:51] <oerheks> just see snaps as the new PPA, private package archive
[16:51] <oerheks> always check the owner of the project.
[16:51] <xbfrog> http://termbin.com/mbzp
[16:51] <EriC^^> xbfrog: ok great, so we're copying the 250gb hitachi to the 1tb samsung ssd right?
[16:51] <xbfrog> yes
[16:51] <EriC^^> is the ssd completely empty, you're good if we repartition/format?
[16:52] <xbfrog> yes its empty and yes good to go\
[16:52] <oerheks> https://ubuntu.com/blog/tag/snaps and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snap_(package_manager) are a good start
[16:52] <EriC^^> xbfrog: ok, question, the old drive was in a certain laptop, will the ssd now replace it in the same laptop?
[16:53] <xbfrog> yes
[16:53] <xbfrog> vaio
[16:53] <EriC^^> xbfrog: i ask because it looks like it is using efi, not legac
[16:53] <EriC^^> *legacy, ok good
[16:53] <xbfrog> the Hp is efi
[16:53] <EriC^^> xbfrog: type "sudo mkdir /old_drive"
[16:53] <xbfrog> ok
[16:54] <EriC^^> xbfrog: type 'sudo mount /dev/sdb5 /old_drive'
[16:54] <xbfrog> i need a min to increase the fonts in terminal its almost impossible to read or see i typed something correctly
[16:55] <EriC^^> xbfrog: ok
[16:56] <legreffier> xbfrog: ctrl+shift+'=/+ key' ?
[16:57] <xbfrog> legreffier: perfect that did it thanks :)
[16:58] <xbfrog> is there a space between sudo mount and /dev?
[16:59] <xbfrog> i cant tell
[16:59] <EriC^^> xbfrog: yes, there is
[17:00] <xbfrog> and one between sdb5 and  /old?
[17:00] <EriC^^> yup
[17:01] <xbfrog> ok
[17:02] <xbfrog> ok return prompt
[17:02] <EriC^^> ok, type 'sudo blkid /dev/sdb5 | nc termbin.com 9999'
[17:05] <xbfrog> https://termbin.com/x7t7
[17:05] <justabeginner> hope somebody assist me with the issue with trackpad not working
[17:06] <xbfrog> your needing a different onscreen  kepad?
[17:06] <EriC^^> xbfrog: ok, to confirm the install is efi, type "grep efi /old_drive/etc/fstab | nc termbin.com 9999"
[17:07] <justabeginner> xbfrog:  I am coming from Debian, so need to solve few issues to get Ubuntu on my new machine.
[17:08] <justabeginner> I can't make the trackpad work even with installation of drivers
[17:10] <xbfrog> https://termbin.com/t30k
[17:11] <EriC^^> xbfrog: ok, it's efi
[17:11] <xbfrog> really
[17:11] <xbfrog> i'm supprised
[17:12] <xbfrog> a 12 yr old computer?
[17:12] <xbfrog> shocked really
[17:12] <EriC^^> *shrug*
[17:12] <xbfrog> had no idea
[17:13] <xbfrog> thought it was legacy, oh well
[17:13] <xbfrog> thats why you gotta check everything
[17:14] <EriC^^> xbfrog: there's a very small possibility it still is, cause the partition table is msdos not gpt, so grub could be in the mbr there, anyways we'll do a fool-proof workaround in case you ever need to use the ssd on a legacy pc
[17:15] <EriC^^> xbfrog: type 'sudo gdisk /dev/sda'
[17:15] <xbfrog> ok done
[17:16] <EriC^^> xbfrog: press 'o' it should create a fresh partition table
[17:16] <felixi> Hi. How do i prevent resolv.conf from being generated?
[17:17] <xbfrog> type G if you dont want to convert your mbr partitions to GPT format
[17:17] <EriC^^> nah we want to make a GPT one
[17:18] <EriC^^> i guess dont type G, that way it'll make a totally fresh new GPT one
[17:18] <xbfrog> ok
[17:18] <xbfrog> it just gave me a help list
[17:18] <EriC^^> xbfrog: ok, press 'w' to write the table out
[17:19] <xbfrog> final checks complete about to write GPT data proceed?
[17:19] <EriC^^> yup
[17:19] <xbfrog> ok done
[17:20] <xbfrog> sucessful
[17:20] <EriC^^> xbfrog: ok, type "lsblk" make sure that to the far right of /dev/sda  nothing is listed under "mountpoint"
[17:20] <EriC^^> sda1 i mean
[17:20] <bayman> unattended upgrades is not sending me emails even though I have email working and getting cron error emails. how do I troubleshoot?
[17:21] <bertptrs> check both the logs for unattended upgrades and your email service around the time UA is running
[17:21] <xbfrog> no nothing under sda1
[17:22] <EriC^^> xbfrog: ok, great, 'sudo parted -ls' lists the partition table type as gpt now for sda, yeah?
[17:23] <xbfrog> ok if this is what you mean...
[17:23] <EriC^^> Partition Table: gpt ?
[17:23] <xbfrog> writing new GUID partition table GPT to  /dev/sda
[17:24] <xbfrog> successful
[17:24] <EriC^^> i guess it wrote it then
[17:24] <xbfrog> i dont see anything below that that says GPT
[17:24] <EriC^^> xbfrog: alright, time to set up the partitions on the ssd, then we'll format a couple filesystems and time to copy
[17:25] <xbfrog> ok
[17:25] <EriC^^> xbfrog: hmm, ok try 'sudo blkid /dev/sda' does it say PTTYPE=gpt ?
[17:26] <felixi> How do i prevent /etc/resolv.conf from being generated?
[17:27] <neverblue> any brave users out there? wondering if they have a support channel on IRC ?
[17:27] <xbfrog> yes it does
[17:27] <xbfrog> yes it does
[17:28] <EriC^^> xbfrog: ok, great
[17:28] <EriC^^> xbfrog: type 'sudo cgdisk /dev/sda'
[17:28] <zerocode> cgdisk ?
[17:28] <zerocode> what is a cgdisk
[17:29] <EriC^^> it's an ncurses version of gdisk, a more friendly gdisk
[17:31] <felixi> How do i prevent /etc/resolv.conf from being generated? DNS works fine when I manually add my router ip, but the system keeps generating empty resolv.conf. I'm on wsl2
[17:31] <EriC^^> xbfrog: ?
[17:31] <xbfrog> returned prompt
[17:31] <EriC^^> xbfrog: hmm it should open a program
[17:32] <xbfrog> ok it did
[17:32] <xbfrog> hehe, its slow atm
[17:32] <EriC^^> xbfrog: no worries :D
[17:33] <EriC^^> xbfrog: ok, so now you want to create a partition for the efi first, press "new"
[17:33] <EriC^^> xbfrog: it should show you 'first sector' leave it blank to choose the default
[17:33] <EriC^^> btw there are no existing partitions shown right? just 'free space' ?
[17:34] <xbfrog> ok first sector default -34?
[17:34] <EriC^^> yeah
[17:35] <EriC^^> when it asks for size in sectors, type "300M"
[17:35] <xbfrog> is it asking for a  response?
[17:35] <xbfrog> i dont see a question
[17:35] <EriC^^> xbfrog: on the first sector?
[17:36] <xbfrog> ya
[17:36] <EriC^^> xbfrog: yeah it expects input or if you leave it blank it'll use the default 34
[17:36] <rfm> felixi, , wsl despite the "ubuntu" in the image name, is not very much like ubuntu.  In particular it uses a microsoft custom init (closed source as far as I can tell) instead of systemd ...
[17:36] <xbfrog> ok so just press enter?
[17:36] <felixi> rfm: alright.
[17:36] <EriC^^> xbfrog: yup
[17:36] <xbfrog> size in sectors?
[17:36] <xbfrog> enter?
[17:37] <EriC^^> xbfrog: no, type "300M"
[17:37] <xbfrog> ok
[17:37] <rfm> felixi, and systemd is the thing which writes resolv.conf on ubuntu.  I did find this question in the wsl forums: https://github.com/microsoft/WSL/issues/5420
[17:37] <felixi> rfm: thanks!
[17:37] <EriC^^> xbfrog: it should then ask for hex code, type in "ef00"    (that's zero's not O's)
[17:38] <xbfrog> i typed in 300m and enter it removed it
[17:38] <EriC^^> xbfrog: i think it needs to be a capital M
[17:38] <xbfrog> oh
[17:39] <xbfrog> nope
[17:39] <xbfrog> doesnt like that either
[17:40] <zerocode> EriC^^: lol i didn't know
[17:40] <zerocode> EriC^^: i will see
[17:40] <xbfrog> ok this is what it says
[17:40] <EriC^^> xbfrog: something is wrong, was the partition table empty when you first started cgdisk?
[17:41] <xbfrog> size in sectors or (KMGTP) *default =2024):
[17:41] <xbfrog> then the cursor
[17:41] <xbfrog> after
[17:41] <EriC^^> xbfrog: alright, in the list above the question does it say anything other than 'free space'
[17:42] <EriC^^> i think it might have kept the old partition from when it was mbr
[17:42] <xbfrog> free space is listed first then linux filesystem then again free space
[17:42] <EriC^^> ah ok, it seems it did, np
[17:42] <EriC^^> xbfrog: hit enter choosing the default size, enter /default again for hexcode
[17:43] <xbfrog> hexcode enter 8300?
[17:43] <EriC^^> xbfrog: then in the list of partitions go over them and press "delete" on them all, til you're left with only "free space" and nothing else
[17:43] <EriC^^> xbfrog: just enter is fine
[17:43] <xbfrog> ok
[17:44] <xbfrog> now it wants new partition name
[17:44] <EriC^^> also just enter
[17:44] <xbfrog> ok
[17:44] <xbfrog> as before the list is the same
[17:45] <xbfrog> oh wait
[17:45] <xbfrog> not exactly
[17:45] <xbfrog> linux filesystem
[17:45] <xbfrog> linux filesystem
[17:45] <xbfrog> then free space
[17:45] <EriC^^> xbfrog: highlight each partition and at the bottom press on "delete"
[17:46] <xbfrog> ok its on type below delete how do i move up one?
[17:47] <EriC^^> xbfrog: use the left/right arrows
[17:47] <xbfrog> ah ha
[17:48] <xbfrog> all thats showing now is free space
[17:48] <EriC^^> great
[17:48] <EriC^^> xbfrog: ok, press new again
[17:48] <xbfrog> sorry i'm slower than mud
[17:48] <xbfrog> ok
[17:49] <xbfrog> ok first sector
[17:49] <xbfrog> default
[17:49] <xbfrog> 2048
[17:49] <EriC^^> nah, no worries, the program is new to you
[17:49] <xbfrog> very new
[17:50] <EriC^^> xbfrog: yeah keep it blank for the sector 2048, when it asks for size, type "300M"
[17:50] <EriC^^> then for hex code type "ef00"
[17:51] <EriC^^> finally for the partition name it's up to you, you could keep it blank or type something like "EFI partition" it's just a name/label
[17:51] <xbfrog> ok this time it accepted it
[17:51] <xbfrog> now its size in sectors
[17:52] <xbfrog> default is 1852910735
[17:52] <EriC^^> type in "300M"
[17:52] <xbfrog> ok
[17:52] <EriC^^> for starting sector you kept it blank yeah?
[17:53] <xbfrog> ok hex code done
[17:53] <xbfrog> wants new partition name
[17:53] <xbfrog> enter?
[17:53] <EriC^^> aha, yeah
[17:53] <xbfrog> ok back to the table
[17:54] <EriC^^> ok, awesome :D
[17:54] <xbfrog> i'm happy
[17:54] <EriC^^> xbfrog: same deal, press on 'new', for starting sector keep it blank
[17:54] <EriC^^> yeah it's a fun tool this cgdisk, pretty handy to set stuff up
[17:54] <justabeginner> I guess my new laptop track pad is not working as it is not detected in /dev/bus/input/devices. It stated it could be bug with Linux kernel -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingTouchpadDetection
[17:54] <xbfrog> which means just hit enter?
[17:54] <xbfrog> it wants first sector
[17:55] <EriC^^> xbfrog: yup, when it asks for size in sectors, this time type "2M"
[17:55] <xbfrog> 2048
[17:55] <xbfrog> ok
[17:55] <EriC^^> xbfrog: something isnt right, 1 sec
[17:55] <justabeginner> unfortunately, "ubuntu bug linux" is not reporting. It say, this reporting is about package.
[17:55] <xbfrog> next is KMGPT default?
[17:55] <justabeginner> How would I be reporting this bug to Linux kernel
[17:56] <xbfrog> go to canonical and create a login
[17:56] <EriC^^> xbfrog: i think you might have not kept the starting sector default in the first one, cause you said after it "ok it took it this time" hehe that's why i was asking
[17:57] <xbfrog> ok, i'm in no mans land, so i have to take your word for everything :)
[17:57] <EriC^^> :)
[17:58] <xbfrog>  believe it or not i'm learning
[17:58] <EriC^^> xbfrog: ok, hit enter keeping it blank as before til you reach the table again, delete both partitions so there's just free space and let's do it again
[17:58] <xbfrog> ok
[17:58] <EriC^^> xbfrog: yup, i believe :D
[17:59] <xbfrog> well, i'm back as yousaid keep it empty now i'm back to new
[18:00] <xbfrog> i missed something
[18:00] <EriC^^> xbfrog: what's that?
[18:00] <xbfrog> i dunno i'm not seeing delete
[18:00] <EriC^^> is there only 'free space' in the table?
[18:00] <xbfrog> no
[18:01] <xbfrog> linux filesystem twice
[18:01] <xbfrog> efi syste partition
[18:01] <xbfrog> and 2 free space
[18:01] <EriC^^> xbfrog: try highlighting the partitions, does 'delete' show up?
[18:02] <xbfrog> ah, ur so smart  :)
[18:02] <xbfrog> ok, nothing but free space
[18:02] <EriC^^> it's happened with me before, is all :D
[18:02] <EriC^^> xbfrog: alright awesome
[18:03] <EriC^^> xbfrog: ok, go for "new" again
[18:03] <xbfrog> ok
[18:03] <xbfrog> yep
[18:03] <xbfrog> new
[18:03] <EriC^^> xbfrog: does it say starting sector default 2048?
[18:03] <xbfrog> yep
[18:03] <xbfrog> 300M?
[18:03] <EriC^^> ok keep it blank and press enter
[18:03] <xbfrog> ok
[18:04] <xbfrog> done
[18:04] <xbfrog> now size in sector
[18:04] <EriC^^> xbfrog: ok, it's asking for size in sectors now?
[18:04] <EriC^^> ok, type "300M"
[18:04] <xbfrog> ok hex code?
[18:04] <EriC^^> ef00
[18:05] <xbfrog> partition name? enter?
[18:05] <EriC^^> yup
[18:05] <xbfrog> back to the table
[18:05] <EriC^^> xbfrog: ok, again press 'new'
[18:06] <xbfrog> done
[18:06] <xbfrog> first sector
[18:06] <EriC^^> for starting sector, leave it blank and hit enter
[18:06] <xbfrog> default
[18:06] <xbfrog> ok
[18:06] <EriC^^> xbfrog: for size in sectors, type "2M"
[18:07] <xbfrog> doesnt like it
[18:07] <xbfrog> i type 2M an it deletes it
[18:09] <EriC^^> hmm
[18:09] <EriC^^> what does it say for default = ?
[18:10] <xbfrog> 2014
[18:12] <EriC^^> ok i think i know what's happening
[18:13] <xbfrog> ok, that makes one of us :)
[18:13] <EriC^^> xbfrog: in the table there's freespace, then 300 MiB EFI System, then free space?
[18:13] <xbfrog> yes
[18:14] <EriC^^> xbfrog: ok, when creating the new partitions, you need to highlight the freespace at the bottom, and press new
[18:14] <xbfrog> ok
[18:14] <EriC^^> right now it's trying to create the partition in the tiny free space at the start, before the efi partition
[18:14] <xbfrog> ok
[18:15] <EriC^^> xbfrog: hit enter for the questions til it takes you back to the table, then at the very top partition it created, before the efi one, highlight it and delete it
[18:15] <xbfrog> so enter at the size in sectors the default?
[18:15] <EriC^^> xbfrog: yeah
[18:15] <EriC^^> xbfrog: you should end up with free space ... 300MiB EFI System... free space below it
[18:15] <xbfrog> ok bak to the delete page
[18:15] <xbfrog> yes
[18:16] <xbfrog> so use the free space
[18:16] <EriC^^> xbfrog: ok, highlight the free space below the EFI system, and press new
[18:16] <xbfrog> and click new?
[18:16] <xbfrog> got it
[18:16] <xbfrog> first sector
[18:16] <EriC^^> xbfrog: keep it blank
[18:17] <xbfrog> size in sectors
[18:17] <xbfrog> 2M?
[18:17] <EriC^^> xbfrog: yup
[18:17] <EriC^^> when it asks for hex code type "ef02" this time
[18:18] <xbfrog> oh kay good guess :0
[18:18] <xbfrog> got it
[18:18] <EriC^^> partition name can be left blank as usual
[18:18] <xbfrog> got it
[18:19] <xbfrog> now i have a new entry
[18:19] <xbfrog> bios boot partition
[18:19] <EriC^^> xbfrog: ok, once you're back at the table, highlight also the lowermost freespace and press new
[18:20] <EriC^^> yup, that sounds good
[18:20] <xbfrog> ok done
[18:20] <xbfrog> first sector?
[18:20] <EriC^^> now we wanna create the partition for the root filesystem
[18:20] <EriC^^> xbfrog: keep it blank
[18:21] <EriC^^> xbfrog: this time, when it asks for size in sectors, also keep it blank, that way it'll use up all the space it can
[18:21] <xbfrog> size in secors?
[18:21] <xbfrog> ok
[18:21] <EriC^^> xbfrog: for hexcode, type "8300"
[18:21] <xbfrog> oops didnt type the hexcode
[18:22] <xbfrog> crum
[18:22] <EriC^^> no worries, it's ok it can be changed later, and really it doesnt matter much, the most important one was ef02
[18:22] <xbfrog> ok did that
[18:22] <EriC^^> all good, partition name blank as usual
[18:22] <xbfrog> yes
[18:23] <xbfrog> wheew
[18:23] <EriC^^> xbfrog: ok, if you want, highlight the lowermost partition (linux filesystem) and press on "type" then put "8300"
[18:23] <EriC^^> might as well since we're still in cgdisk
[18:24] <xbfrog> it had that value
[18:24] <EriC^^> xbfrog: actually it just hit me if you left the hexcode blank, yeah what you just said xD
[18:24] <xbfrog> i just pressed enter
[18:24] <EriC^^> xbfrog: ok awesome :D now the good stuff, press on "write"
[18:25] <xbfrog> are you shure you wanna write?
[18:25] <EriC^^> yup, say yes
[18:26] <xbfrog> the operation has competed
[18:26] <xbfrog> nice
[18:26] <xbfrog> woo hoo
[18:26] <EriC^^> xbfrog: :D
[18:27] <EriC^^> xbfrog: ok, type "sudo partprobe /dev/sda"
[18:27] <xbfrog> thank you for your kind instructions
[18:27] <xbfrog> ok
[18:27] <EriC^^> that will let the kernel re-read the partition table
[18:27] <EriC^^> no problem
[18:27] <vinvin> hi, in ubuntu server 20.04 for raspberry pi, the modules useful for the raspberry are in /lib/modules/5.4.0-1016-raspi/kernel/drivers/staging . Funny enough, this directory is removed on reboot. Anybody has a clue why and how to disable this?
[18:27] <xbfrog> sorry w/c brb back
[18:29] <EriC^^> ok
[18:29] <xbfrog> ok bak
[18:30] <xbfrog>  ok, type "sudo partprobe /dev/sda right?
[18:31] <EriC^^> yup
[18:31] <EriC^^> wb
[18:31] <xbfrog> ok,i m still in type
[18:31] <xbfrog> ty ;)
[18:32] <xbfrog> linux, efi, bios,boo, files
[18:34] <xbfrog> so how do i get bak to sudo? i'm still in cgdisk
[18:35] <EriC^^> xbfrog: ok exit the cgdisk tool
[18:35] <xbfrog> ok type exit?
[18:35] <xbfrog> ok i see quit
[18:35] <xbfrog> got it
[18:35] <EriC^^> xbfrog: ok, type 'sudo partprobe /dev/sda'
[18:36] <lesshaste> if I leave my 20.04 machine for a while and come back chromium is in a weird state where I can't click on any of the tabs.
[18:36] <EriC^^> it might mention about the kernel and partition table blabla, no worries about the line
[18:36] <EriC^^> (after you quit cgdisk)
[18:36] <lesshaste> this has happened now
[18:36] <EriC^^> lesshaste: maybe try to start chromium from a terminal and see if any output/errors show up there
[18:37] <lesshaste> EriC^^, I just did that and don't see any errors
[18:37] <lesshaste> well just tk-Message: 19:37:01.585: Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module"
[18:37] <xbfrog> musta typed something wrong, just a return prompt
[18:37] <lesshaste> Gtk-Message: 19:37:01.585: Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module"
[18:37] <EriC^^> lesshaste: i guess some might show up when it does the whole freezing issue
[18:38] <lesshaste> I can alt-tab to it but I can't click on anything
[18:38] <summonner> lesshaste, if you unplug and replug your mouse does that temporarily fix it?
[18:38] <lesshaste> let me try
[18:38] <EriC^^> xbfrog: that's fine
[18:39] <lesshaste> EriC^^,  no. The mouse was working fine
[18:39] <EriC^^> xbfrog: ok, type 'sudo parted -ls | nc termbin.com 9999'
[18:40] <lesshaste> I guess I can just kill it with xkill
[18:40] <EriC^^> lesshaste: i think you meant to highlight summonner ?
[18:40] <lesshaste> EriC^^, you I think
[18:40] <lesshaste> is summonner a person?
[18:41] <summonner> lesshaste, the next option is to switch to a console (ctrl shift f2) then switch back to your X session
[18:41] <EriC^^> yeah, they were asking you about the mouse
[18:41] <lesshaste> ah ok
[18:41] <lesshaste> summonner, it didn't make any difference but the mouse hasn't stopped working
[18:41] <lesshaste> it's just this collection of tabs of chromium which I now can't access
[18:42] <EriC^^> lesshaste: maybe a certain website is causing it to freeze? does it happen if you have different sites open than usual when you leave it?
[18:42] <lesshaste> I can open a new working chromium
[18:42] <lesshaste> EriC^^,  it's a good question.Is there a log somewhere I should be looking at ?
[18:42] <lesshaste> I can't even move the chromium window
[18:42] <EriC^^> lesshaste: "top" might show if chromium is taking excessive cpu/memory
[18:42] <summonner> lesshaste, if switching to a console and back to your X session doesn't work, then in your Chromium options, try disabling the Hardware Acceleration and give that a day or two
[18:43] <EriC^^> xbfrog: still there? we're practically done at this point, couple commands and we can let it copy
[18:43] <summonner> also    sudo apt install libcanberra-gtk-module libcanberra-gtk3-module    to have the missing module
[18:43] <lesshaste> how do I switch to a console? ctrl-alt-f1 just takes me the X window/gnome log in
[18:44] <summonner> CTRL+ALT+F2   -> then back again (F1 as you said)
[18:44] <lesshaste> summonner, thanks.. what are they for?
[18:44] <lesshaste> summonner, in 20.04 CTRL+ALT+F2  seems to do nothing at all
[18:44] <summonner> lesshaste, try F3 onwards
[18:45] <lesshaste> F5 worked
[18:45] <lesshaste> sadly it hasn't rescued my chromium
[18:45] <lesshaste> I will try disabling hardware acceleration
[18:45] <lesshaste> xkill here we come
[18:45] <summonner> lesshaste, your mouse - is it a logitech?
[18:45] <xbfrog> ok typed sudo parted -ls | nc termbin.com 9999 got warning: umable to open  /dev/sro read-wire only file system
[18:46] <xbfrog> yes i'm here
[18:46] <EriC^^> xbfrog: ok, did it return any link?
[18:46] <xbfrog> just typed my imput and this was the response
[18:47] <EriC^^> xbfrog: give it another go, seems termbin is having issues today
[18:47] <lesshaste> sunrunner20, Microsoft Corp. Wheel Mouse Optical
[18:47] <lesshaste> Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
[18:47] <EriC^^> the warning is nothing important, /dev/sr0 is the dvd-rom
[18:47] <xbfrog> warning: unable to open /dev/sr0 read-write read only....
[18:47] <lesshaste> I can't start chromium at all now
[18:47] <lesshaste> I think I am going to have to reboot
[18:48] <EriC^^> xbfrog: ok, try 'sudo parted /dev/sda print | nc termbin.com 9999'
[18:48] <xbfrog> ok
[18:48] <summonner> lesshaste, looks like the problem might have to do with power management on your USB root hub then
[18:49] <summonner> i had that problem a year or so ago with a mouse of mine - it would randomly stop working and I tracked it down to power management
[18:50] <summonner> the only app which would fail was Firefox
[18:51] <xbfrog> well crum, let me enter it again i see my error
[18:52] <Doc-Saintly> I'm trying to use xrdp and when I use the Xorg option, it immediately disconnects after I type in my username and password. the log doesn't show much. What could be the cause of this?
[18:52] <EriC^^> xbfrog: oki
[18:53] <Doc-Saintly> And does it perform differently than the vnc option?  or will both perform the as far as speed?
[18:53] <summonner> Doc-Saintly, you should look at the logs (if you don't have logs, find some options to enable the logs)
[18:53] <xbfrog> magic happens when you put in the right commands
[18:54] <xbfrog> https://termbin.com/cpru
[18:55] <Doc-Saintly> summonner, took a look and didn't see much, here it is:
[18:55] <Doc-Saintly> https://bin.disroot.org/?7728624d63096135#6fy7cS4W1azEnLbspEfP7zdUdJ3naZffaCPPwSs4Pf2L
[18:55] <xbfrog> ugh, this is what i hated about win 3.1
[18:56] <xbfrog> now its back in win 10
[18:56] <summonner> Doc-Saintly, (looking at the logs...) you're not trying to connect to your own machine are you?
[18:57] <Doc-Saintly> summonner, I am. But of course I tried from another device as well :) I got the same result.
[18:57] <summonner> RDP won't let you do that -- you'll end up in an endless mirror display loop.
[18:57] <EriC^^> xbfrog: alright, type "sudo mkfs.fat -F 32 /dev/sda1"
[18:57] <summonner> Doc-Saintly, see if you can get the logs from the other machine?
[18:58] <EriC^^> xbfrog: that will create the filesystem for the fat32 efi partition
[18:58] <Doc-Saintly> that's why I started doing it local, because the "other" is a phone which doesn't show me logs. I did get an error abour encryption once.
[18:58] <vinvin> anybody has experience with scrambled audio on ubuntu with alsa? it works fine with debian but with ubuntu it feels like it's too slow to play it
[18:59] <Doc-Saintly> summonner, and this is the session manager log
[18:59] <Doc-Saintly> https://bin.disroot.org/?7e4b7334a24cdb4e#8s3KvnAzZBz3Yho3vKRbSb8Umr8kNcTQkAJqYjwRcVSu
[18:59] <Doc-Saintly> will try again from the other machine though ,see if any difference in the logs
[19:00] <summonner> Doc-Saintly, yeah that says you're trying to connect to yourself too, ::1 again loop, won't happen
[19:00] <xbfrog> ok done
[19:02] <Doc-Saintly> https://bin.disroot.org/?1f7f3e0864286fa9#4Ln1f5YCMvWUk2RG23UQQxj4ePABs1GHprqAg1qDzUe7 <- from another device then
[19:02] <EriC^^> xbfrog: ok, in your browser open up https://termbin.com/x7t7
[19:02] <xbfrog> on vaio? or Hp?
[19:03] <EriC^^> xbfrog: type "sudo mkfs.ext4 -U d12a4abf-2741-4221-bb4c-c69eec5c8d29 /dev/sda4"
[19:03] <EriC^^> xbfrog: on the vaio
[19:03] <xbfrog> ok got it
[19:03] <EriC^^> that whole string of numbers is found in that link
[19:03] <Doc-Saintly> https://bin.disroot.org/?672865e9d6513415#9DS6HLgnPWMofjy59XbNf59Ec6PsckPgQMsNfmQ3ZTEb
[19:03] <Lutin> can it be that /etc/nginx/sites-available/default is now allowed to be removed when you want to in a docker build on Ubuntu ?
[19:05] <EriC^^> xbfrog: what we're doing is formatting the root filesystem, and we're giving mkfs the UUID (like the id of filesystem) that belongs to the old drive one, so we dont have to modify that in the system later
[19:05] <xbfrog> its reallly really slow
[19:05] <summonner> Doc-Saintly, so which machines do you have? which is the server and which is the client? Win10?
[19:06] <vinvin> hm. strangely mpv on ubuntu uses pulseaudio when alsa is activated as output, that's why it's scrambled
[19:06] <summonner> Doc-Saintly, do you have a file    ~/.xsession-errors   ? Can you pastebin that if you do?
[19:08] <summonner> Lutin, you mean you want to run the docker to handle the default webserver port? 80/443?
[19:10] <Lutin> summonner no I want it to remove the file but I'm not allowed, why ?
[19:11] <summonner> Lutin, you don't want to remove the sites-available file, you want to remove the link in the sites-enabled folder
[19:11] <Lutin> summonner sure but in that case someone is still able to create the symlink so that is why I wanted to remove it
[19:12] <summonner> Lutin well... someone has to come along and do it right? but clarify the docker part for me first if you please?
[19:12] <xbfrog> ok
[19:12] <xbfrog> i had to w/c again
[19:13] <Lutin> summonner why do I need to explain docker, docker = docker and you can do whatever you want in it. Even echo "I'm sexy and my Distro knows it".
[19:13] <EriC^^> wb, any luck on the termbin link opening?
[19:13] <EriC^^> xbfrog: ^
[19:13] <summonner> Doc-Saintly, also, do you have this log file?  /var/log/xrdp-sesman.log
[19:15] <xbfrog> ok browser opendd
[19:15] <xbfrog> opened
[19:15] <xbfrog> typed termbin
[19:15] <EriC^^> xbfrog: ok, put in https://termbin.com/x7t7
[19:17] <xbfrog> ok i cant do this any more today i need a break
[19:18] <xbfrog> i'll leave this up if we can continue later
[19:19] <EriC^^> xbfrog: sure, no problem, we've covered a lot of ground already, we just need to make the last filesystem, and run the copy command and then reinstall grub, we can do those later
[19:20] <Doc-Saintly> summonner, checking
[19:20] <EriC^^> xbfrog: i'll be here tomorrow same time, so maybe we can continue then
[19:21] <Doc-Saintly> summonner, and the last link is the sesman from the phone client
[19:24] <summonner> Doc-Saintly, if you read this StackOverflow post, was there an order which you installed the RDP server? like the first answer? https://askubuntu.com/questions/797973/error-problem-connecting-windows-10-rdp-into-xrdp
[19:24] <Doc-Saintly> summonner, no errors in the xsessions either, just looks like it's trying to set up, but now I see the client is saying there is a data encryption error
[19:25] <Doc-Saintly> I haven't gotten to a computer to try from windows 10 yet.
[19:25] <summonner> Doc-Saintly, in that post, there's an option to disable the encryption - give that a try?
[19:25] <Doc-Saintly> yea let me check that out.
[19:27] <Doc-Saintly> summonner, ah, but I'm using x11vnc for the server so I guess I need to edit the encryption there.
[19:28] <Doc-Saintly> But is it true that I can't use RDP on the machine while I'm logged in?
[19:30] <summonner> you cannot rdp to yourself because you'd be looking in a mirror looking in a mirror looking in a mirror etc
[19:30] <summonner> VNC allows you to open a separate display
[19:32] <summonner> that display is another virtual desktop on your system in a different section of memory, so that would work, but RDP was designed by Microsoft along a single-user paradigm
[19:32] <Doc-Saintly> summonner, understand that I can't do it from the same machine
[19:32] <Doc-Saintly> and actually, doing so with vnc gives you a nice mirror like you're talking abouti.
[19:32] <Doc-Saintly> and I thought xrdp basically hooks into the vnc?
[19:35] <summonner> Doc-Saintly, if you connect to the same session which is active as your desktop, yes, mirror
[19:36] <Doc-Saintly> yes, but in this case I would at least expect the RDP to connect successfully and show the mirror, which is why I wasn't concerned about connecting in a loopback, since it seems to be an initial connection issue
[19:37] <Doc-Saintly> summonner, does it matter if the vnc server has a password on it? I don't quite know how xrdp can accses the VNC server since it has a password on it, unless it knows to read the file directly.
[19:37] <summonner> VNC and RDP are kinda the same thing in different ways. In essence, you need a VNC client to connect to a VNC session and RDP/RDP
[19:38] <Doc-Saintly> I understand they are different protocols, but I was reading that xrdp utilizes VNC on linux to expose an rdp-compatible service?
[19:38] <Doc-Saintly> so without vnc xrdp doesn't work at all, right?
[19:40] <summonner> xrdp handles the X window manager interface and allows an RDP session to connect to it
[19:41] <Doc-Saintly> I see. Let me give it a try from win 10 and come back
[19:44] <Doc-Saintly> thanks
[19:49] <CarlFK> plugging in a usb3 hub, dmesg shows:  xhci_hcd 0000:00:14.0: Not enough bandwidth. Proposed: 1589616, Max: 1607
[19:50] <CarlFK> maybe a fix is: rmmod xhci_hcd, but rmmod: ERROR: Module xhci_hcd is builtin.
[19:50] <CarlFK> any ideas on now to reset, other than turn the box off and on again ?
[19:55] <CarlFK> using my other usb port doesn't have that problem.  so.. fixed for now.
[19:58] <summonner> CarlFK,   lspci -v | grep xhci    does it show the kernel owns it? probably
[20:13] <CarlFK> summonner: Kernel driver in use: xhci_hcd
[20:15] <SCHAPiE> Might be power related.
[20:15] <lenswipe> hey folks
[20:16] <lenswipe> im trying to install obs studio from flatpak but flatpak doesn't show the latest version of KDE SDK for me on my ubuntu box
[20:16] <lenswipe> but only debian box it shows up just fine
[20:25] <Doc-Saintly> summonner, thanks for your help. trying from a windows client and I got the same issue. once I logged out locally I could connect in through the XRDP, but then anything that uses graphics acceleration doesn't work :\
[20:25] <Doc-Saintly> I'm guessing that's just a limitation of xrdp? And vnc has pretty poor response times for graphic heavy things too. Is there any suggestion of something I could use to do video / games on Ubuntu remotely?
[20:26] <compdoc> x2go is nice. I use it for all my systems
[20:27] <compdoc> but it needs a 2d desktop, as do vnc and the others
[20:33] <lenswipe> im trying to install something that depends on obs-studio
[20:33] <lenswipe> i have "obs" installed from the official OBS ppa, but not "obs-studio"
[20:34] <lenswipe> the problem being that dpkg thinks I'm missing "obs-studio"
[20:34] <lenswipe> is there any way to point dpkg at "obs" and tell it to look at that instead?
[20:36] <Bashing-om> lenswipe: apt, flatpak, abd snap are differnet packaging and do not talk one to the other.
[20:36] <summonner> Doc-Saintly, for VNC, you can reduce the PIcture Quality option to Medium, for RDP, you can set the speed of the connection to 129Kb/s
[20:36] <lenswipe> Bashing-om, im aware. I found out that flatpak no longer supports i386 so I've walked that back and am now using apt to install OBS
[20:37] <summonner> compdoc, you mean it has to have a real video interface? no virtual?
[20:37] <Doc-Saintly> summonner, yea, basically a game that is hooking into the video card, or streaming a video (I think video could accept virtual)
[20:38] <Doc-Saintly> summonner, yea, I played with some of the encodings but I assume it's just about the constant refresh rate and trying to do the whole screen without a modern codec. Does VNC have some support for h264/5?
[20:38] <summonner> Doc-Saintly, VNC does a full repaint unless you change the algo - looking at what options there are
[20:39] <Bashing-om> lenswipe: "snap find obs-studio " >> obs-studio  25.0.8   snapcrafters .
[20:39] <summonner> Doc-Saintly, try a different set of encodings - like Hexile - it can only repaint the area under the mouse
[20:39] <summonner> see what works best for you
[20:41] <lenswipe> Bashing-om, that gets OBS installed...but it doesn't help with my need to install plugins
[20:42] <oerheks> lenswipe, obs?  .. all i find is obs-studio
[20:42] <summonner> Doc-Saintly,  but games - you're not going to get a decent refresh or quality. Games are designed for 16 million colors, with 5ms refresh. You might get 320x200 on a 2Mb link. You're not going to get a video optimized stream because X was never designed for FMV
[20:42] <oerheks> !find obs
[20:42] <Bashing-om> !info obs-studio focal |  lenswipe
[20:42] <Doc-Saintly> summonner, understood, thanks. need to wait for the parsec / rainway guys to decide it's worth it to put their stuff on Linux :(
[20:43] <lenswipe> Bashing-om, yep. but that version is too old for the plugin i want to install
[20:44] <lenswipe> the NDI plugin depends on OBS > 25.0.7
[20:44] <lotharn> does ubuntu have a minimal install anymore?
[20:44] <oerheks> lotharn, yes, it is an install option
[20:45] <Bashing-om> lenswipe: Then all I can suggest is the snap install , that I know nothing about.
[20:45] <oerheks> lenswipe,  so you need Focal 20.04 or higher .. https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/obs-studio
[20:46] <lenswipe> oerheks, so i can't just tell dpkg that the dependency it's trying to resolve is installed but with a different name?!
[20:46] <lotharn> oerheks: where?
[20:46] <oerheks> you said you installed 'obs' .. i cannot find it.
[20:47] <lenswipe> oerheks, https://obsproject.com/download
[20:47] <oerheks> lotharn, start the ubuntu iso, you will see the option, after 'language' and 'keyboard' steps
[20:47] <lenswipe> i added the PPA and installed from there. '
[20:47] <lotharn> from the server iso?
[20:47] <lenswipe> "obs-studio" is not installed. "obs" is. Note the quotes. It's the same thing, but dpkg is looking for the wrong name
[20:47] <oerheks> lotharn, howcome you think server has a minimal option?
[20:48] <oerheks> lolz
[20:48] <lenswipe> oerheks, it's like if you wrote an app that depended on "vlc-media-player" and I have a build of it installed just packaged as "vlc"
[20:48] <oerheks> lenswipe, not supported, ask the ppa owner? we only do our packages, for obvious reason.
[20:48] <lotharn> why shouldnt i?
[20:48] <lenswipe> it's the same thing, but just with a different package name
[20:49] <oerheks> good luck!
[20:50] <pirx> hi! how many millisecs does it take for you guys to run "time gnome-terminal" on a idle system? i feel my installation is sluggish (i just upgraded from 18.04 to 20.04 and nothing really changed).
[20:50] <pirx> 690ms for me on avegare btw
[20:51] <Fenster> hey guys, I was in here a week or 2 ago trying to figure out why my ubuntu machine wouldnt update... i keep getting azure.archive.ubuntu.com , could not connect when trying to run apt
[20:52] <Fenster> we thought it was because of that internet failure a few weeks ago but I am trying again with no luck
[20:52] <Doc-Saintly> Could anyone advise how to set up a bridged network interface with virt-manager like on Virtual Box? I want my VMs to appear to be on the same network as the host. the guys in that channel didn't respond :\
[20:52] <oerheks> !netplan
[20:52] <oerheks> Doc-Saintly, ^^\
[20:53] <oerheks> https://netplan.io/examples/#configuring-network-bridges
[20:54] <Fenster> anyone know why it keeps trying to access that location and why it is unreachable?
[20:54] <oerheks> Fenster, looks like WSL ??
[20:55] <Fenster> oerheks, what is WSL?
[20:55] <Doc-Saintly> oerheks, thanks - but it looks like virt-manager sets up the bridge on its own? Or you mean I need to manually configure it with net plan and then join that with with the UI?
[20:56] <oerheks> Doc-Saintly, yes, netplan is the tool to make it happen
[20:56] <Doc-Saintly> ok, I'll read about it. thanks
[20:57] <Bashing-om> Fenster: azur ? I do not see it as an offical mirror: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors . Try changing your mirror ?
[20:57] <oerheks> !wsl
[20:57] <oerheks> seriously, you don't know about linux on windows?
[20:57] <Fenster> ah this is an ubuntu VM running on azure
[20:57] <oerheks> oh, als important to mention, ubuntu vm ..
[20:57] <Fenster> ya sorry
[20:58] <oerheks> azure, i don't know.
[20:58] <oerheks> maybe you use an outdated ubuntu vm?
[20:59] <Fenster> sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list brings up my sources.list file
[21:00] <Fenster> all are pointing that to that location
[21:00] <oerheks> Fenster, what version?
[21:01] <Fenster> 18.04.4
[21:02] <Fenster> LTs
[21:03] <oerheks> time to run full upgrade, we are at 18.04.5 now
[21:03] <oerheks> sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade #  and reboot
[21:04] <Fenster> it keeps trying to hit that azure mirror and dies
[21:04] <oerheks> Fenster, then go into update settings, change mirror?
[21:04] <Fenster> can you help walk me through that please?
[21:05] <oerheks> no idea howto see if that azure mirror is up2date/down/whatever
[21:06] <Fenster> looks like there is a 3rd party software apt-mirror
[21:06] <oerheks> in update settings, 1st screen
[21:06] <Fenster> im sshd in
[21:06] <Fenster> no gui
[21:06] <Fenster> CLI only
[21:07] <oerheks> maybe someone else is familiair with Azure??
[21:09] <nightBulb> Fenster, https://askubuntu.com/questions/104695/how-do-i-change-mirrors-in-ubuntu-server-from-regional-to-main
[21:09] <nightBulb> this might help ?
[21:09] <Fenster> thx nightBulb just found that too
[21:09] <Fenster> trying to walk through it
[21:09] <oerheks> that could work, but this is azure...
[21:11] <Fenster> oerheks, what would be different?
[21:11] <Fenster> if it is a vm, why would it matter where it looks to download?
[21:12] <nightBulb> Ubuntu OS -- VM -- Azure HOST --- NETWORK /INternet
[21:12] <nightBulb> Maybe ... :P
[21:13] <Fenster> not sure I follow
[21:13] <oerheks> Fenster, did you try to run full-upgrade yet?
[21:13] <oerheks> i think you should..
[21:13] <Fenster> oerheks, It keeps looking to download that full-upgrade from that unreachable host
[21:13] <summonner> I'd wait to see if it's supported inside Azure first
[21:13] <oerheks> then find someone to help you with azure.
[21:14] <summonner> there should be technical notes from Microsoft talking about supported versions as VMs
[21:14] <Fenster> oh I see
[21:14] <Fenster> you are suggesting not to do an OS version just in case
[21:14] <Fenster> Im just trying to do a unifi upgrade
[21:15] <summonner> unifi as in the Ubiquiti routers?
[21:15] <Fenster> ya there is a new unifi controller version and It fails when I try to sudo apt-get upgrade unifi
[21:17] <oerheks> sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade #  and reboot
[21:17] <oerheks> really, such command does not exist, upgrading 1 package
[21:17] <summonner> Fenster, do you have the correct apt source for your Ubuntu release?
[21:17] <summonner> This page lists the different sources: https://help.ui.com/hc/en-us/articles/220066768-UniFi-How-to-Install-and-Update-via-APT-on-Debian-or-Ubuntu
[21:17] <oerheks> s̶u̶d̶o̶ ̶a̶p̶t̶-̶g̶e̶t̶ ̶u̶p̶g̶r̶a̶d̶e̶ ̶u̶n̶i̶f̶i̶
[21:18] <Doc-Saintly> Can netplan be mixed with NetworkManager? Or in order to make a bridge I have to give up the network manager GUI config?
[21:23] <Bashing-om> Doc-Saintly: netpland and network-manager should not be mixed - see: https://blog.ubuntu.com/2017/12/01/ubuntu-bionic-netplan .
[21:23] <Doc-Saintly> Bashing-om, I see :( unfortunately I'm on a laptop so that would kind of kill me, since I'll need to change wireless networks
[21:24] <Doc-Saintly> virt-manager is able to make a bridge that works with a different subnet and I still have network manager running.
[21:24] <Doc-Saintly> is it such a big change to just have virt-manager give it a different subnet?
[21:24] <Fenster> ok so I followed the unifi instructions and it upgraded
[21:25] <Fenster> but during the apt-get update and upgrade processes, it keeps trying to reach that azure server and fails
[21:25] <Fenster> not sure why
[21:25] <Fenster> but it looks like it didnt interfere with the unifi installation
[21:26] <Fenster> thanks for all your help
[21:35] <Bashing-om> Doc-Saintly: Sorry, I have no experience with bridging in netplan :( Can not say.
[21:36] <Doc-Saintly> Bashing-om,  thanks for the tips anyway. found this one and will try it to see if it helps: https://adefaultsk.fedoraproject.org/t/creating-virtual-networks-in-virt-manager/3004/8
[21:39] <Bashing-om> Doc-Saintly: ^ does not load in my browser.
[21:39] <Doc-Saintly> hrm, not sure why, but it gives a couple commands to basically create the bridge on the CLI, giving it a shot.
[21:39] <Doc-Saintly> I suppose it's also possible in the network manager GUI, but it's a whole lot of options I don't understand
[21:44] <katronix> Hi all, can anyone point me in the right direction of turning partitions into either Raid 0, LVM, or something similar after the fact?
[21:47]  * katronix wonders if https://websiteforstudents.com/how-to-create-a-volume-group-on-ubuntu-18-04-16-04-with-lvm/ would work
[23:23] <FaTaL_G> uh oh???? I just initiated an apt update//upgrade on my existing functioning 20.04, and I'm getting a failure on each /var/lib/dkms/* while its doing the kernel update:  https://pastebin.com/9XvkVkif
[23:25] <FaTaL_G> apparently 5 build issues. all seem to be related to pfring 7.7.0
[23:26] <FaTaL_G> how can I reinitiate the kernel update? I presume I should remove and reinstall pfring
[23:27] <nerdjones> hello all, im trying to install compton to get rid of screen tearing, but i cant seem to find out how to get rid of the old one? does anyone have any reading that can point me in the right direction?
[23:53] <blahboybaz> I have 2 directories on my local system that are mounted to 2 other mount points respectively. It was done through / via fstab. The problem is every time my comptuer restarts the directories are not mounted properly and I have to do a "$ sudo umount /path/to/mount/point" to both of them then a :$ sudo mount -a".  I'd really like to get this sorted out so that they mount when then system boots up and not have to manually fix it.
[23:53] <blahboybaz> Can anyone help?
[23:58] <beefman> how do i determine which gcc version was used to compile the kernels at https://kernel.ubuntu.com/ ?  the nvidia driver wants me to compile with the same version as that used to compile the kernel, and i get dependency headaches in 20.04 with gcc-10_10.2.0-5ubuntu2 (which matches the one used to compile kernel 5.8.7 on the ppa)