| cmaloney | BTW MUG Meeting tonight (http://mug.org) | 12:25 |
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| cmaloney | We're going to be remote for the forseeable future so if you've wanted to come to a meeting this is as good a time as any. ;) | 12:26 |
| cmaloney | http://n-gate.com/hackernews/2020/09/07/0/ | 14:13 |
| Scary_Guy | lol, I've read all of that. Funny site though and I like how they put hacker in quotes. | 14:32 |
| Scary_Guy | My favorite client is still materialistic for android. | 14:33 |
| Scary_Guy | Though it could use some updating | 14:33 |
| Scary_Guy | I didn't see this mentioned though. I thought it was big news https://linuxreviews.org/%22Linusgate%22_Leaked:_Over_250_Messages_About_Code_of_Conduct_Complaints_Against_Linus_Torvalds | 14:35 |
| cmaloney | I'm sure there's a point in there but damned if I can find it | 14:49 |
| brian__ | Does anyone know what might prevent a program run as a user cron job from playing sound to the ALSA driver? | 17:32 |
| brian__ | The program in question works just fine when run from the terminal. | 17:32 |
| jrwren | env vars | 17:32 |
| brian__ | Ok, thanks. I need to go spelunking through my env to see what might be missing, then. *sigh* | 17:33 |
| brian__ | The odd thing is that it used to work, meaning something changed in my setup since then. | 17:35 |
| cmaloney | brian__: Also could be that ALSA is locked by another process | 17:37 |
| brian__ | It's looking like env vars. Running bash with an empty env gets me "Connection refused" and "Inappropriate ioctl for device" messages. | 17:41 |
| cmaloney | Does it work from cron when you're logged in? | 17:42 |
| brian__ | No. | 17:43 |
| jrwren | what app? | 17:43 |
| cmaloney | how are you opening the sound device / executing th is? :) | 17:43 |
| jrwren | mpg123 or something? | 17:43 |
| brian__ | paplay from the pulseaudio-utils package. | 17:44 |
| cmaloney | paplay to the alsa device? | 17:45 |
| brian__ | The actual program is grandfatherclock. I initially thought it was going straight to ALSA when I glanced at the config file, but it's actually calling paplay which then tries to play a .au sound file to Pulse audio. | 17:47 |
| cmaloney | ah, OK | 17:48 |
| cmaloney | So it's not alsa, but more likely pulseaudio | 17:48 |
| brian__ | Yes. | 17:48 |
| cmaloney | is it a system-wide pulseaudio or pulseaudio that's started by your user? | 17:49 |
| cmaloney | If it's Ubuntu then you likely have two pulseaudio daemons running | 17:49 |
| cmaloney | one for lightdm and one for your user | 17:49 |
| brian__ | My user. | 17:50 |
| brian__ | I just see the one. | 17:50 |
| brian__ | Ok, that makes sense, then. | 17:50 |
| cmaloney | you might have some luck adding "--verbose" to see what it's trying to run | 17:50 |
| cmaloney | because pulseaudio tries to smooth over a lot of crap happening at the soundcard level | 17:51 |
| cmaloney | The "connection refused" is likely that the daemon isn't running | 17:52 |
| cmaloney | the inappropriate ioctl makes me wonder what device it's trying to run against, and if it's actually trying some odd fallback or something | 17:52 |
| cmaloney | but --verbose should give you more details on what its doing. | 17:52 |
| cmaloney | Good luck! | 17:52 |
| brian__ | You're right, I don't think it is. top tells me that pulseaudiop is being run with the --daemonize=no options. | 17:52 |
| cmaloney | That's likely the gdm version | 17:53 |
| brian__ | I'm running KDE. | 17:53 |
| cmaloney | erm, whatever KDE does then. ;) | 17:53 |
| cmaloney | check the user that its running against | 17:54 |
| brian__ | It's running as my user. | 17:55 |
| jrwren | what about PULSE_SERVER envvar? | 17:57 |
| brian__ | Not defined. | 17:57 |
| jrwren | what does pax11publish or xprop -root PULSE_SERVER say? | 18:00 |
| brian__ | not found | 18:00 |
| jrwren | no pax11publish command? hrmf. | 18:01 |
| brian__ | I have it. It just doesn't print anything. | 18:01 |
| brian__ | And now I've messed everything up. My KDE volume control widget is no longer recognizing the ouput device (Pulse Audio). | 18:02 |
| brian__ | I'm going to log out and log back in to try getting KDE's Pulse Audio config to work again. | 18:04 |
| brian__ | Finally got it. I needed to configure pulseaudio to set up a unix socket that clients can use. | 18:45 |
| cmaloney | Ah, cool | 18:46 |
| cmaloney | Glad it got sorted | 18:46 |
| cmaloney | https://octodon.social/@craigmaloney/104831655861756082 | 22:41 |
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